• Doors, DOSBox, and NTVDMx64?

    From Android8675@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 07:43:25
    From: android8675@REALITY.remove-tkx-this

    Has any [Windows] type people looked at this hacked version of NTVDM for Win x64?

    https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64 - Link to author's github http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/ntvdmx64.html - Link to built version (grey area legality, read page for details)

    Basically it's supposed to let 64-bit Windows run 16-Bit DOS programs "natively", it will even pipe LPT1: output.

    I haven't figured it out yet. Windows Defender thinks it's a virus probably because it is, or because it's a modified version of a MS dll, but it could mean that BBSs could run Win x64 and still run old DOS Doors without jumping through a ton of hoops.
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  • From Gamgee@1:229/2 to ryan on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 12:44:00
    From: gamgee@PALANT.remove-pxm-this

    To: ryan
    ryan wrote to Android8675 <=-

    I haven't figured it out yet. Windows Defender thinks it's a virus probabl use it is, or because it's a modified version of a MS dll, but it could me t BBSs could run Win x64 and still run old DOS Doors without jumping throu on of hoops.

    Yeah, as far as running dos doors goes, this is my least favorite
    solution even though it would probably wind up being the fastest.
    :/

    I think if a person decides to go this route, fighting with
    antivirus software will constantly be the frustration, and it'll
    likely break a lot. It's a bummer.

    Reasons numbers 3,141,590 and 3,141,591 to NOT use Windoze. :)



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  • From ryan@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 09:34:00
    From: ryan@MONTEREY.remove-129y-this

    To: Android8675
    I haven't figured it out yet. Windows Defender thinks it's a virus probabl use it is, or because it's a modified version of a MS dll, but it could me t BBSs could run Win x64 and still run old DOS Doors without jumping throu on of hoops.

    Yeah, as far as running dos doors goes, this is my least favorite solution
    even though it would probably wind up being the fastest. :/

    I think if a person decides to go this route, fighting with antivirus
    software will constantly be the frustration, and it'll likely break a lot.
    It's a bummer.

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  • From Rampage@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:54:54
    From: rampage@SESTAR.remove-wso-this

    To: Android8675
    Re: Doors, DOSBox, and NTVDMx64?
    By: Android8675 to All on Tue Mar 10 2020 07:43:25


    Android8675> Has any [Windows] type people looked at this hacked version of
    Android8675> NTVDM for Win x64?

    yes, folks are looking at and using it... in fact, netserial and/or netfoss have been reworked to work properly with it on 64 bit systems...

    tell your virus scanner thing to leave it alone ;)


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  • From ryan@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, March 10, 2020 15:30:00
    From: ryan@MONTEREY.remove-ngp-this

    To: Gamgee
    Reasons numbers 3,141,590 and 3,141,591 to NOT use Windoze. :)

    :) Indeed. For me, if I'm going to open a firewall to accept an incoming connection, it's going to have to be on a linux server.

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  • From gary.ailes@gmail.com@1:229/2 to ryan on Monday, March 23, 2020 11:13:02
    On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 12:34:53 PM UTC-4, ryan wrote:
    To: Android8675
    I haven't figured it out yet. Windows Defender thinks it's a virus
    probabl
    use it is, or because it's a modified version of a MS dll, but it could
    me
    t BBSs could run Win x64 and still run old DOS Doors without jumping
    throu
    on of hoops.

    Yeah, as far as running dos doors goes, this is my least favorite solution even though it would probably wind up being the fastest. :/

    I think if a person decides to go this route, fighting with antivirus software will constantly be the frustration, and it'll likely break a lot. It's a bummer.


    The anti-virus/windows defender is only an issue when installing. Once installed there is no problem.

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  • From Android8675@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 08:17:56
    From: android8675@REALITY.remove-pwy-this

    To: Rampage
    Re: Doors, DOSBox, and NTVDMx64?
    By: Rampage to Android8675 on Tue Mar 10 2020 11:54 am

    Android8675> Has any [Windows] type people looked at this hacked version of Android8675> NTVDM for Win x64?

    yes, folks are looking at and using it... in fact, netserial and/or netfoss have been reworked to work properly with it on 64 bit systems...

    tell your virus scanner thing to leave it alone ;)

    Cool beans, soon as my board is back up I might mess with it. Run Remote Access
    from Windows 10 natively... Cool beans.

    I disabled my virus scanner, fuck that guy.
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  • From Android8675@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 08:19:57
    From: android8675@REALITY.remove-pwy-this

    To: Gamgee
    Re: Re: Doors, DOSBox, and NTVDMx64?
    By: Gamgee to ryan on Tue Mar 10 2020 12:44 pm

    ryan wrote to Android8675 <=-

    Reasons numbers 3,141,590 and 3,141,591 to NOT use Windoze. :)

    Source?
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  • From Gamgee@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 20:16:00
    From: gamgee@1:123/115.remove-s0o-this

    To: Android8675
    Android8675 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Doors, DOSBox, and NTVDMx64?
    By: Gamgee to ryan on Tue Mar 10 2020 12:44 pm

    Reasons numbers 3,141,590 and 3,141,591 to NOT use Windoze. :)

    Source?

    Source for what? My opinion?

    The message is three weeks old, and you snipped out ALL the
    context, so I'm not even sure what you're referring to...



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  • From MRO@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 21:36:37
    From: mro@BBSESINF.remove-v2u-this

    To: Rampage
    Re: Doors, DOSBox, and NTVDMx64?
    By: Rampage to Android8675 on Tue Mar 10 2020 11:54 am

    Re: Doors, DOSBox, and NTVDMx64?
    By: Android8675 to All on Tue Mar 10 2020 07:43:25


    Android8675> Has any [Windows] type people looked at this hacked version of
    Android8675> NTVDM for Win x64?

    yes, folks are looking at and using it... in fact, netserial and/or netfoss have been reworked to work properly with it on 64 bit systems...

    tell your virus scanner thing to leave it alone ;)


    SO , are people running dos doorgames in a 64bit environment using this ntvdm? ---
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  • From Rampage@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 08:32:36
    From: rampage@SESTAR.remove-hex-this

    To: MRO
    Re: Doors, DOSBox, and NTVDMx64?
    By: MRO to Rampage on Tue Mar 31 2020 21:36:37


    Android8675>>> Has any [Windows] type people looked at this hacked
    Android8675>>> version of NTVDM for Win x64?

    Rampage>> yes, folks are looking at and using it... in fact,
    Rampage>> netserial and/or netfoss have been reworked to work
    Rampage>> properly with it on 64 bit systems...

    Rampage>> tell your virus scanner thing to leave it alone ;)


    SO , are people running dos doorgames in a 64bit environment using this
    ntvdm?

    yes they are able to run 16bit DOS programs on a 64bit winwhatever installation...

    i wasn't joking above when i said that PCMike has worked with this ntvdm's developer(s) so that netfoss/netserial works properly with it, either ;)


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