In Line 71 I have a question DM:
"\1n\r\n\1c \1h\1bReading \1n\1c %4u\b\b\b\b%s\1\\"\ 071 ReadingSub
" %4u\b\b\b\b\1h%s \1n\1c(\1h?\1n\1c=Menu) (\1h%u\1n\1c of \1h%u\1n\1c): \1n"
Which variables can I add color to? The %4u or the %s?
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Mar 09 2020 08:11 am
You can add Ctrl-A codes before or after any of the variable specifiers (%x).
digital man
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Mar 09 2020 08:11 am
You can add Ctrl-A codes before or after any of the variable specifiers (%x).
A couple more questions I have to ask DM on this same topic.
1. Only 1 h can be used at one time on one line right to get bright?
Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y%s" <- right
Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y\1h%s" <-wrong
2. You cannot exceed the 2000 character limit in the quotes correct?
But if you want the whole line to be bright then? Also Line “011 Post” should be renamed to “011 PostQ” since it’s asking a question.
$ The Millionaire $
..."Revenge is sweet. No sugar added."...
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 10 2020 07:22 pm
No, you can toggle bright on/off multiple times in a single line. But turning bright off (with Ctrl-AN) also clears the current color attribute.
"\1hBright \1nNormal \1hBright \1nNorml" <- works fine
That's correct.
digital man
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Also, line “055 OK” should be changed to “055 OKQ” since it’s also asking a question.
$ The Millionaire $
..."Revenge is sweet. No sugar added."...
1. Only 1 h can be used at one time on one line right to get bright?
Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y%s" <- right
Example: "\1c\1hPlease write your message \1y\1h%s" <-wrong
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 10 2020 19:22:28
you can use as many as you want/need but they won't do anything unless the color sequence has been set back to normal... in your "wrong" example above, the one you added is not needed because the first one is still in play and hasn't been negated...
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But if you want the whole line to be bright then? Also Line "011 Post" should be renamed to "011 PostQ" since it's asking a question.
$ The Millionaire $
..."Revenge is sweet. No sugar added."...
Also, line "055 OK" should be changed to "055 OKQ" since it's also
asking a question.
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 10 2020 07:22 pm
No, you can toggle bright on/off multiple times in a single line. But turning bright off (with Ctrl-AN) also clears the current color attribute. "\1hBright \1nNormal \1hBright \1nNorml" <- works fine
That's correct.
But if you want the whole line to be bright then?
Also Line "011 Post"
should be renamed to "011 PostQ" since it's asking a question.
Yes, but take for example the "Happy Birthday" line 329:
If you use a lot of h's then the lines will be horribly long.
The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-
you can use as many as you want/need but they won't do anything unless the color sequence has been set back to normal... in your "wrong" example above, the one you added is not needed because the first one is still in play and hasn't been negated...
Yes, but take for example the "Happy Birthday" line 329:
"\7\7\r\n\1h\1rH\1ba\1gp\1yp\1cy \1mB\1wi\1rr\1gt\1bh\1cd\1ma\1yy
"\ 329 HappyBirthday "\1wt\1ro \1gy\1bo\1cu\r\n\7\7\1mH\1ya\1wp\1rp\1gy "\ "\1bB\1ci\1mr\1yt\1wh\1rd\1ga\1by \1ct\1mo \1yy\1wo\1ru\1g.\1b.\1c.\r\n\r\n"
If you use a lot of h's then the lines will be horribly long.
No, it won't cause it to "screw up". Anything after the closing "
symbol is ignored (as is stated on the Wiki...).
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If you have the labels too close to quotes can that cause Synchronet toscrew up?
For Example:
"\1c\1hThis is a test.\r\n" 001 Test
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Wed Mar 11 2020 08:21:04
Rampage>> you can use as many as you want/need but they won't do anything unless
Rampage>> the color sequence has been set back to normal... in your "wrong"
Rampage>> example above, the one you added is not needed because the first one is
Rampage>> still in play and hasn't been negated...
[trim example]
yep but that's how it goes... especially if you are flipping between high and normal... this is why one of the optimizations is to set high at the beginning of the sequence you want high and then set normal for the rest...
in other words:
\1\hdo stuff in high here\1\ndo stuff in low here
is better than
\1\hd\1\ho \1\hs\1\ht\1\hu\1\hf\1\hf \1\hh\1\he\1\hr\1\he
so yeah, be conservative for best performance...
i'm curious, though... why are you making so many thing high color?
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The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
No, it won't cause it to "screw up". Anything after the closing "
symbol is ignored (as is stated on the Wiki...).
Which characters are they talking about here:
Customize
Knowledge of the C programming language may be very helpful in
producing the desired results. If all you want to do is change
colors of a certain text line, take care not to disturb the
arrangement of the other characters on the line. Ctrl-A codes can
be preceded by an embedded actual Ctrl-A (ASCII 0x01) character
or by a '\1' (the C printf() escape sequence representing a
Ctrl-A character).
The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-
If you have the labels too close to quotes can that cause
Synchronet to screw up?
For Example:
"\1c\1hThis is a test.\r\n" 001 Test
The other characters on the line, just as it says. Everything
between the starting " symbol, and the closing " symbol.
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 06:58:57
likely not but why would you do this?
you realize this will make it a lot harder to diff/compare with new additions and changes to text.dat, don't you??
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You mean the \r\n. Of course those DM said you can't remove.
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Fri Mar 13 2020 01:37 pm
Huh?
digital man
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True but when I run it, it just crashes the Synchronet BBS saying it's a corrupt text.dat file anyways.
Those are all still in there. The problem is why does it get corrupt? All I do is just add colours to variables.
$ The Millionaire $
..."Revenge is sweet. No sugar added."...
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
The other characters on the line, just as it says. Everything
between the starting " symbol, and the closing " symbol.
You mean the \r\n. Of course those DM said you can't remove.
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 13:35:35
sounds like something got messed up...
remember, there are somethings that cannot be removed or swapped around in the lines... things like "%s", "%d", "%f", and similar... they must stay in the same relative position because that's where the C code expects them to be... plus they have certain meanings... check the C printf docs for examples ;)
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The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-examples
sounds like something got messed up...
remember, there are somethings that cannot be removed or swapped around in the lines... things like "%s", "%d", "%f", and similar... they must stay in the same relative position because that's where the C code expects them to be... plus they have certain meanings... check the C printf docs for
Those are all still in there. The problem is why does it get
corrupt? All I do is just add colours to variables.
examples
My guess would be the way that you're editing the file. What
editor are you using for the task?
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Those are all still in there.
The problem is why does it get corrupt? All I do is just add colours tovariables.
Can I send you my file and look and see what's wrong with it maybe evenpossibly
test it on a computer with Synchronet on it and give me the results? Thatwould
help a lot.
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 18:54:54
Rampage>> remember, there are somethings that cannot be removed or swapped around
Rampage>> in the lines... things like "%s", "%d", "%f", and similar... they must
Rampage>> stay in the same relative position because that's where the C code expects
Rampage>> them to be... plus they have certain meanings... check the C printf docs
Rampage>> for examples ;)
ok... and in the same order they were to start with, i assume?
what editor are you using? a plain ASCII text editor is all that is needed... you definitely do not want to be using a document editor...
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 13 2020 18:59:21
sure, i guess...
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Fri Mar 13 2020 01:37 pm
Huh?
You told me a long time ago to never remove:
\r = carriage return
\n = line feed
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 14 2020 09:11:06
you can upload it to me on my BBS, i guess... maybe you can send it via email/netmail... i dunno...
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Ok, How do I send it to you? By email? By U/L?
Well I U/L it to your BBS in Sysop dir.
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 14 2020 18:27:18
ok, yeah... a few things...
1. do not remove the leading spaces before the first quote... they are continued lines from the line above... removing the leading spaces breaks things...
lines 2 thru 6 are perfect examples of this... they are all continuations of line 1...
2. do not remove the tilde "~" from lines... it is used to determine which key is the menu key to be hilighted... removing it makes the bbs not know which keys are option keys...
line 57 (prompt 43) is a perfect example of menu key breakage... there's supposed to be three menu keys defined in that line but your edit removed all of them so the system doesn't know which keys it is supposed to use for the menu options...
3. don't remove the spaces between the closing quote or closing quote followed by a slash and the prompt number... it needlessly complicates comparing the file changes with a default text.dat... i spent the majority of my time analyzing the file putting back these spaces and the ones at the beginning of the lines as noted in #1 above...
i don't know exactly what you did to break things but i suspect the first two above are the main culprits... i stopped repairing the above after maybe an hour...
i did note that you seem to have removed a happy birthday line around 398 or 399 because the time to change password prompt was raised up by one line... maybe this was the main breakage? i dunno and no, sorry, i won't load it into my bbs as i don't want to crash it or affect its uptime outside of my own downing it ;)
so, if i were you, i'd start again with a clean text.dat, leave the spaces and tildes alone, and then make your color changes... i'd also make only a couple of changes at a time and then test... this way you can catch breakage sooner and have a better idea of what you did to break it...
anyway... there ya go...
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Well thank you very much for your time and input. It was greatlyappreciated
and interesting to see how this text file really works from the inside.
The "Happy Birthday" in line 329 was altered for a reason to make it a little different than the original lines.
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Mar 15 2020 09:57:11
yeah... it may be in a text file format but originally it wasn't... when it is used, it is deeply embedded in how the system works...
i understand that but i don't know that you can just delete lines...
something else i noticed... around the line you marked with '*****', you somehow started putting '\ 1 c' codes (spaced here so sbbs doesn't interprete them) after the closing quotes... you can't do that, either... certainly not after the quotes and before or after the '\' line contuation indicator...
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Mar 13 2020 06:20 pm
You can do whatever you like. If it looks weird after you remove something, put it back. <shrug>
digital man
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Does having the labels close to quotes cause a problem?
For Example:
"\r\nThis is how I write the line.\r\n" 001 WriteLine
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 17 2020 07:41 pm
No.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #68:
SSJS = Server-side JavaScript
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Well that’s how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.
$ The Millionaire $
..."Revenge is sweet. No sugar added."...
Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.
Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.
$ The Millionaire $
..."Revenge is sweet. No sugar added."...
Are you supposed to jsexec update the text.js strings when you modify the text.dat file?
Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet forsome reason.
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 17 2020 07:52 pm
No.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #67:
SSH = Secure Shell
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Are you allowed to substitute the \1h and \1n to colours instead or should they be left alone?
Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing unforeseencircumstances?
You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.
Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing unforeseen circumstances?
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Mar 18 2020 06:54 pm
You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #62:
SEXYZ = Synchronet External X/Y/ZMODEM file transfer protocol driver
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Mar 18 2020 06:54 pm
You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.
Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing unforeseen circumstances?
The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-
You can substitute or remove whatever color codes you want.
Then what should not be allowed to be removed without causing
unforeseen circumstances?
Have you read http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:text.dat ?
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 06:20 am
You shouldn't re-arrange or remove the printf-specifiers (e.g. "%s") without care.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #17:
DCE = Data Communications Equipment (or Deuce, Stephen Hurd)
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Have you read http://wiki.synchro.net/custom:text.dat ?
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 06:20 am
You shouldn't re-arrange or remove the printf-specifiers (e.g. "%s") without care.
What about adding colours to % specifiers that don't have a colour to them in the original file? Can that cause problems too? Some have colours and some don't but I colour anything with a % in front of it.
You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.
in the original file?You shouldn't re-arrange or remove the printf-specifiers (e.g. "%s") without care.
What about adding colours to % specifiers that don't have a colour to them
Can that cause problems too? Some have colours and some don't but I colouranything with a % in front of it.
Well that's how I did my whole text file and it crashed Synchronet for some reason.
You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.
https://youtu.be/bK7HJvmgFnM
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 17:07:33
they all have color on them already... the previous color code sets them, too... i thought you said you had done ANSI stuff before??
see above... the previously set color applies to them... just don't split the '%' from the character it is leading...
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On 3/17/20 7:44 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings via JS.
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 06:14:56
Rampage>> they all have color on them already... the previous color code sets
Rampage>> them, too... i thought you said you had done ANSI stuff before??
so i guess you are saying that you've never done raw ANSI codes in your ANSI screens? by that i mean that you've never gone in and manually edited them to clean them up after using an ANSI editor on them, correct?
if you had, you'd understand more about what is being sent with all your code changes and you'd understand that that last color sent applies to everything following until the next color sequence... it doesn't seem like you understand that... or perhaps you're just being too detailed in what you are doing? forest and leaves kinda thing?
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No I didn't ever do raw ansi editing before. I am being very detailed
in what I am doing because I want my text.dat file to look nice when
it's completed.
But the way I do it seems to cause complications for the BBS itself
for some reason and my editing should not affect it in any way since
it's just a text file.
The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-
Yes I have done ANSI before just never had to edit a text file
like this before I got into Synchronet.
And you still don't have to do that. My board is quite
customized, and I haven't touched the text.dat. No reason to that
I can see. Customize your menus and maybe the command shell, but
get over your obsession with text.dat.
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I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings via JS.
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 08:16:49
there's a difference in looking nice and walt disney puking ;)
it might be in a text file format but it is not "just a text file" -=B-)
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The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
And you still don't have to do that. My board is quite
customized, and I haven't touched the text.dat. No reason to that
I can see. Customize your menus and maybe the command shell, but
get over your obsession with text.dat.
Don't you find some of those colours kind of dark in the
text.dat?
Don't you find some of those colours kind of dark in the text.dat?
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 05:07 pm
You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #32:
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No. Not at all. Can you tell me specifically which ones you find
"dark"?
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Why is Line 382 ProgListUnderline such a long line for?
Yes I have done ANSI before just never had to edit a text file like this before I got into Synchronet.
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Mar 19 2020 05:07 pm
You can add, remove, or change any "colour" you wish.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #32:
FTS = FidoNet Technical Standard
Norco, CA WX: 49.3F, 93.0% humidity, 0 mph S wind, 0.69 inches rain/24hrs
Why is Line 382 ProgListUnderline such a long line for?
so i guess you are saying that you've never done raw ANSI codes
in your ANSI screens? by that i mean that you've never gone in
and manually edited them to clean them up after using an ANSI
editor on them, correct?
I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings
via JS.
At what point do you use JS to change the text.dat strings though?
Also it seems like that may have to run multiple times (every time
a user logs in?)..
I usually don't touch the text.dat since I can change those strings via JS.
Why is that? Is it easier?
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Mar 20 2020 08:01 pm
Cause it looks good.
digital man
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The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-
Cause it looks good.
It screws up in my text editor. On yours it looks real long.
I find the blue, red, magenta and green are the hardest on my
eyes. The rest are fine though.
On 3/20/2020 8:53 PM, The Millionaire wrote:
What are you using for a terminal? Most don't show old-school DOS
colors by default.
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It's still a text file with a dat extension. You can edit it in any texteditor.
Don't you find some of those colours kind of dark in the text.dat?
I think your "text editor" is the root of all your problems...
Why don't you quit worrying about text.dat, and actually
build/customize a working BBS instead?
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Cause it looks good.
It screws up in my text editor.
On yours it looks real long.
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Fri Mar 20 2020 15:29:10
Rampage>> it might be in a text file format but it is not "just a text file" -=B-)
i know this... my point is that how it is used makes it not "just a text file"... especially if formatting changes can cause problems like you've been seeing...
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 04:35:06
then you need a better text editor that can handle long lines without wordwrapping... when editing files like text.dat, you should turn off wordwrap anyway... wordwrap is only good for writing letters and documents... certainly not for programming stuff...
as it should...
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 04:35:06
then you need a better text editor that can handle long lines without wordwrapping... when editing files like text.dat, you should turn off wordwrap anyway... wordwrap is only good for writing letters and documents... certainly not for programming stuff...
as it should...
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 21 2020 03:05 pm
On Windows, notepad++ or Visual Studio.
On Desktop-Linux, I use Geany (GUI) or vim (console).
Since you have an IPad DM, what would you recommend for text editors?
Other than of course the built-in Synchronet text editor, what other text editors would you recommend?
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 21 2020 03:05 pm
On Windows, notepad++ or Visual Studio.
On Desktop-Linux, I use Geany (GUI) or vim (console).
digital man
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 05:21 pm
I don't recommend editing system (e.g. BBS) text files with an iPad.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #59:
SBBS = Synchronet Bulletin Board System
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It screws up in my text editor. On yours it looks real long.
Well DM, that's the only thing I have to edit text files with atm
until I get a Win Mach.
Other than of course the built-in Synchronet text editor, what
other text editors would you recommend?
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Mar 21 2020 18:56:08
what's wrong with editing it on the system you were crashing with your edits? that would be the thing to do and you were using mcedit there...
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:02:29
how do you propose to shorten divider lines that are supposed to be drawn the width of the terminal???
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sat Mar 21 2020 15:05:18
notepad, notepad++, mcedit, vi, vim, joe, emacs, edlin, and similar simple text editors... i have no idea what's available in apple's store, though...
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Since you have an IPad DM, what would you recommend for text editors?
Find, Replace, Etc. is a wsyiwyg type of editor. Simple but does the jobfor the most part.
Hooray! A great day for text.dat! Are you going to shorten these linestoo, DM?
638 ChatChanLstUnderline
694 NodeLstHdr
Is there a version of notepad++ or medit for the ipad?
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No option to turn off word wrapping. :-(
Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:23:47
Rampage>> notepad, notepad++, mcedit, vi, vim, joe, emacs, edlin, and similar simple text editors... i have no idea what's available in apple's store, though...
wysiwyg is overblown... if that editor can turn off wordwrapping and act as a simple text editor, then ok...
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The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-edits?
what's wrong with editing it on the system you were crashing with your
that would be the thing to do and you were using mcedit there...
The place I was doing it on was only temporary.
To: The Millionaire
The Millionaire wrote to Rampage <=-
what's wrong with editing it on the system you were crashing with youredits?
that would be the thing to do and you were using mcedit there...
The place I was doing it on was only temporary.
So, your BBS entry in the SBBS List is invalid and should be
removed?
So, your BBS entry in the SBBS List is invalid and should be
removed?
It hopefully should be removed soon.
edits?
So, your BBS entry in the SBBS List is invalid and should be
removed?
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Re: Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 2020 07:02 pm
I think you can go and remove it yourself if you deem it not necessary to be in the SBBS list.
Nightfox
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I logged onto DM's BBS and it's already been removed.
I would recommend updating your BBS list.
I logged onto DM's BBS and it's already been removed. I would recommend updating your BBS list.
Hi DM. So word wrapping in the text.dat file can corrupt Synchronet BBS?
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 24 2020 06:06 pm
Yeah, that'd be bad.
digital man
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 24 2020 03:37 pm
I don't understand the question. text.dat strings can be extended (onto the next line) by putting a backslash after the closing quotes. Does that answer your question?
Let me rephrase the question then shall I? No I'm talking about no quotes or trailing backslashes then it would corrupt the BBS then?
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Tue Mar 24 2020 03:37 pm
I don't understand the question. text.dat strings can be extended (onto the next line) by putting a backslash after the closing quotes. Does that answer your question?
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #19:
DOCSIS = Data Over Cable Service Interface Specification
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Other than of course the built-in Synchronet text editor, what other text editors would you recommend?
On Windows, notepad++ or Visual Studio.
On Desktop-Linux, I use Geany (GUI) or vim (console).
notepad, notepad++, mcedit, vi, vim, joe, emacs, edlin, and similar simple >> text editors... i have no idea what's available in apple's store, though...
Find, Replace, Etc. is a wsyiwyg type of editor. Simple but does the job for the most part.
Is there a version of notepad++ or medit for the ipad?
Unfortunately not. :-(
Hi DM. Are you allowed to use punctuation after a %s, for example or must you have a colour like a \1c, preceding it?
Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is this?
Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is this?
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 15:47:19
In some cases the author of the .js may have neglected to check whether a relevant string exists in text.dat.
It's also possible that the string from text.dat isn't quite appropriate for the purpose at hand.
If you can point out specific examples, please tell us which .js file should be using which string from text.dat, and if possible, where in the program you think this should be.
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 15:47:19
In some cases the author of the .js may have neglected to check whether a relevant string exists in text.dat.
It's also possible that the string from text.dat isn't quite appropriate for the purpose at hand.
If you can point out specific examples, please tell us which .js file should be using which string from text.dat, and if possible, where in the program you think this should be.
When I started colouring my line 545 in the text.dat file:
"\r\n\1n\1h\1m%-2d \1n\1m%-6u \1w\1h%-25.25s \1m%-25.25s"\ 545 LastFewCallersFmt
"\1n\1m%02u:%02u \1h%-8.8s \1n\1m%3d"
Nothing happened.
So I found a file named logonlist.js and coloured that one
as well. Then the colours changed.
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Apr 04 2020 05:23 pm
Actually, it did: your data/logon.lst file will reflect any changes you made in the text.dat. That file is deprecated in favor of data/logon.jsonl (and logonlist.js), but both are still supported.
The correct way to change that format line is via the [logonlist] last_few_callers_fmt setting in the ctrl/modopts.ini file.
See http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #1:
Nigel Tufnel: These go to eleven.
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The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-
Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is
this?
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:31 pm
The text.dat file is not deprecated.
No.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #20:
DOCSIS = Data Over Cable Service Interface Specification
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to echicken on Sat Apr 04 2020 05:23 pm
Actually, it did: your data/logon.lst file will reflect any changes you made in the text.dat. That file is deprecated in favor of data/logon.jsonl (and logonlist.js), but both are still supported.
The correct way to change that format line is via the [logonlist] last_few_callers_fmt setting in the ctrl/modopts.ini file.
See http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.
Text.dat is a deprecated file now?
So are you removing it soon then?
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:47 pm
It's called logon.lst, it's in your data directory. And yes, it has been deprecated (though still supported) in favor of logon.jsonl and the logonlist.js module that adds-to and displays it.
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #5:
BBS = Bulletin Board System
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Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:31 pm
The text.dat file is not deprecated.
No.
Login.lst is the deprecated file?
Re: Text.dat question
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 06:47 pm
It's called logon.lst, it's in your data directory. And yes, it has been deprecated (though still supported) in favor of logon.jsonl and the logonlist.js module that adds-to and displays it.
So many logon files. *sighs*
Login.lst is the deprecated file?
Login.lst is the deprecated file?
Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.
That's defecate. Different word altogether.
That's defecate. Different word altogether.
Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
Login.lst is the deprecated file?
Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.
The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
That's defecate. Different word altogether.
The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-
Actually, it did: your data/logon.lst file will reflect any changes you made in the text.dat. That file is deprecated in favor of data/logon.jsonl (and logonlist.js), but both are still supported.
The correct way to change that format line is via the [logonlist] last_few_callers_fmt setting in the ctrl/modopts.ini file.
See http://wiki.synchro.net/module:logonlist for details.
Text.dat is a deprecated file now? So are you removing it soon
then?
Hey! Please don't swear in here!
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That's defecate. Different word altogether.
Okay, I'm confused now - is deprecate the defecated word here? And what is the difference between logging on and defecating on?
* sighs*
Hi DM. Some lines in text.dat are bypassed by js files. Why is this?
Nightfox wrote to echicken <=-
Okay, I'm confused now - is deprecate the defecated word here? And what is the difference between logging on and defecating on?
* sighs*
Text.dat is a deprecated file now? So are you removing it soon then?
That's defecate. Different word altogether.
Hi TM. You have an absolute *OBSESSION* with text.dat. Why is
this?
Login.lst is the deprecated file?
Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.
Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.
Only sometimes???
That's defecate. Different word altogether.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
Hi TM. You have an absolute *OBSESSION* with text.dat. Why is
this?
Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D
Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Most of the time I'm not deprecating. ;)
I don't always deprecate, but when I do, I do it in the bathroom.
Sometimes I deprecate in the bathroom.
Only sometimes???
Most of the time I'm not deprecating. ;)
I don't always deprecate, but when I do, I do it in the bathroom.
Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D
Why do I hear people googling Richard Kimble now?
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D
Why do I hear people googling Richard Kimble now?
Well, there are probably many adults now who were not yet born
when even the movie came out several years ago, much less ones
which have watched the original "The Fugitive" TV show.
I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee
seemed to get it. :)
Yeah, like Lt. Gerrard with Richard Kimble. :D
Why do I hear people googling Richard Kimble now?
Well, there are probably many adults now who were not yet born when even
the movie came out several years ago, much less ones which have watched the original "The Fugitive" TV show.
I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee seemed to get it. :)
I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee
seemed to get it. :)
Oh yes, I remember the movie well. Really liked it a lot.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
I thought about that when I typed it, but both you and Gamgee
seemed to get it. :)
Oh yes, I remember the movie well. Really liked it a lot.
I actually never saw the movie. I think I have seen every
episode of the TV series at least once. Back around 1994-96, it
ran on A&E real early on Saturday or Sunday morning. More
recently, it was a staple on MeTV for a while.
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