• Recent finds?

    From aLPHA@21:4/158.1 to All on Monday, January 31, 2022 15:57:19
    Anyone score any good retro hardware recently? I'm in the market for an
    Amiga a1200, but eBay's getting too rich for my blood. Hoping to run into
    some C= hardware at my local thrift stores -- we have one in Berkeley
    called "Urban Ore" that has a pretty big computer section... Fingers
    crossed!


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  • From Jeff@21:1/180 to aLPHA on Monday, January 31, 2022 10:44:37
    On 31 Jan 2022, aLPHA said the following...
    Anyone score any good retro hardware recently? I'm in the market for an Amiga a1200, but eBay's getting too rich for my blood. Hoping to run into some C= hardware at my local thrift stores -- we have one in Berkeley called "Urban Ore" that has a pretty big computer section... Fingers crossed!

    I bought some RCA 1802 "COSMAC" chips off of Ebay and have been playing
    around with those with the help of an Arduino. It's a weird chip, but from a time when Intel/Motorola (and by extension MOS/Zilog) hadn't yet become the standard.

    Perhaps the strangest thing about it is that it's an 8-bit MPU with 16 16-bit registers. It proceeds sequentially by default through its instructions, but has no dedicated Program Counter. It has instructions to manipulate a stack, but has no dedicated Stack Pointer. Instead, any of those 16 registers can be the Program Counter or Stack Pointer. Jumps are accomplished by loading the address to be jumped to into one (any) of those registers and then setting
    that register to be the Program Counter. Changing the Program Counter to be whichever register was previously the Program Counter effectively executes a return.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff@21:1/180 to aLPHA on Monday, January 31, 2022 15:07:22
    On 31 Jan 2022, aLPHA said the following...
    Anyone score any good retro hardware recently? I'm in the market for an Amiga a1200, but eBay's getting too rich for my blood. Hoping to run into some C= hardware at my local thrift stores -- we have one in Berkeley called "Urban Ore" that has a pretty big computer section... Fingers crossed!

    Just today I got a KP1801BM1 from the Russian Federation. It's a 16-bit CPU
    of Soviet design that also happens to be binary-compatible with the DEC
    PDP-11. Other than that, I don't know very much about it at all, but it
    should be fun to try and make it do something, either with an Arduino Mega or
    a small FPGA.

    Jeff.

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  • From aLPHA@21:4/158.1 to Jeff on Tuesday, February 01, 2022 02:15:19
    Just today I got a KP1801BM1 from the Russian Federation. It's a
    16-bit CPU
    of Soviet design that also happens to be binary-compatible with the
    DEC
    PDP-11. Other than that, I don't know very much about it at all, but
    it
    should be fun to try and make it do something, either with an Arduino
    Mega or
    a small FPGA.

    Whoah, that sounds pretty cool -- that's like early 1980m yeah? I find Soviet-era technology pretty intersting, especially some of the out-there industrial design... Congrats :)

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  • From Jeff@21:1/180 to aLPHA on Monday, January 31, 2022 21:23:01
    On 01 Feb 2022, aLPHA said the following...
    Whoah, that sounds pretty cool -- that's like early 1980m yeah? I find Soviet-era technology pretty intersting, especially some of the out-there industrial design... Congrats :)

    Yes, apparently it was designed in 1979, entered production in 1980, and
    ended production in 1993. It was the CPU for several of the "official" Soviet home computers. As shipped, it looks a little unusual: it's a 40-pin IC, but the pins are more closely spaced than a standard DIP package. The pins also extend out to the sides rather than being bent downwards, so that it is flat.

    I've not been able to find a pinout yet, but there's gotta be one out there somewhere.

    Jeff.

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  • From Sporathan@21:1/162 to Jeff on Tuesday, February 01, 2022 12:38:19
    Just today I got a KP1801BM1 from the Russian Federation. It's a 16-bit CPU of Soviet design that also happens to be binary-compatible with the DEC PDP-11. Other than that, I don't know very much about it at all, but it should be fun to try and make it do something, either with an Arduino Mega or a small FPGA.

    Run a BBS on it!

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  • From Dr. What@21:1/126 to aLPHA on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 02:53:35
    aLPHA wrote to All <=-

    Anyone score any good retro hardware recently?

    I lucked out and was able to get a TRS-80 Model I with working monitor.
    No power supply for the computer part, though. Parts on order.
    But the reset button cover was intact! (These usually get lost over time.)

    I have the transformers and I should have the power supply board with cables on Friday. So hopefully I'll have a working TRS-80 Model I this weekend.
    Keeping my fingers crossed.


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  • From Jeff@21:1/180 to Sporathan on Tuesday, February 01, 2022 08:59:57
    On 01 Feb 2022, Sporathan said the following...
    Just today I got a KP1801BM1 from the Russian Federation. It's a 16-b CPU of Soviet design that also happens to be binary-compatible with t DEC PDP-11. Other than that, I don't know very much about it at all, it should be fun to try and make it do something, either with an Ardu Mega or a small FPGA.
    Run a BBS on it!

    The thought has crossed my mind...

    Jeff.

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  • From aLPHA@21:4/158.1 to Dr. What on Tuesday, February 01, 2022 14:50:13
    I lucked out and was able to get a TRS-80 Model I with working
    monitor.

    Oh, that's nice. How much memory on that badboy?


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  • From Dr. What@21:1/126 to aLPHA on Thursday, February 03, 2022 02:55:33
    aLPHA wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I lucked out and was able to get a TRS-80 Model I with working
    monitor.

    Oh, that's nice. How much memory on that badboy?

    The official sticker on the bottom says 16K, but I haven't had it open to see if someone did any mods to it.


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to aLPHA on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 18:29:12
    Anyone score any good retro hardware recently? I'm in the market for an Amiga a1200, but eBay's getting too rich for my blood. Hoping to run into some C= hardware at my local thrift stores -- we have one in Berkeley called "Urban Ore" that has a pretty big computer section... Fingers crossed!

    I am *thinking* of grabbing three PET machines - a seller in PDX has finally went down to the $900 that I was asking... two are working, and one just stopped - so should be something the community can help get rocking again.

    I hear they are worth around $400 each; one community member said they'd pay $400 for the BROKEN one, so...

    I also want an a1200 - but as I was telling you the other day, I think my next purchase (if I can find the dang hardware!!) is a MiSTeR... for ME, an fpga is 'close enough' and way better than software emulation... while it ain't cheap, I think it will be my next 'retro machine'.

    What you think about my PET find? Should I pop? I don't particularly LIKE PETs; and don't need 3(!*) but... good deals are harder to find these days. I might pop.



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to aLPHA on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 18:33:17
    Whoah, that sounds pretty cool -- that's like early 1980m yeah? I find Soviet-era technology pretty intersting, especially some of the out-there industrial design... Congrats :)

    First, YES - Jeffs KP1801BM1 sounds rad... I'm a little green to use an Arduino to make retro chips do things, but... I'm interested in hearing what beeps and boops he makes it do!!

    While this isn't retro COMPUTING, I collect some Russian antiques. Lighters, a couple neat watches, some WWII era bomb fuzes (I have a large fuze collection... very cool.) and a few phones - I love seeing how DIFFERENT their tech was that ours, and most of it is built really well. Very industrial, as you say, too.



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