I hit Facebook with this a few weeks back but didn't get much of any
answers.. Can anyone give me a step by step on how to hook up the SMTP/POP server? I know it's just a basic system to use like Outlook to get your mail for the BBS and is not an Internet mail setup. I am just looking to be able
to pull down my mail on my phone when I am away from the BBS/Home and get new users so I can log on via the phone and give them upgraded access. I really don't want to have to log on just to check for mail.. Any info?? Thanks in advance..

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On 06-21-18 20:53, Bucko wrote to All <=-

I hit Facebook with this a few weeks back but didn't get much of any answers.. Can anyone give me a step by step on how to hook up the
SMTP/POP server? I know it's just a basic system to use like Outlook to get your mail for the BBS and is not an Internet mail setup. I am just looking to be able to pull down my mail on my phone when I am away from the BBS/Home and get new users so I can log on via the phone and give
them upgraded access. I really don't want to have to log on just to
check for mail.. Any info?? Thanks in advance..

Reading between the lines, I'm assuming you're using Mystic. There's 2 stages:

1. Setting up the servers. You do this in Mystic's configuration, in the same place you setup the telnet/SSH/etc. Make sure you have a SMTP and a POP server running.

2. Setting up the client - that's somewhat software dependent, but you need to set the BBS's address as your POP and SMTP servers, POP port is 110, I think SMTP is 25. Authentication is plain text. I haven't got my email machine on ATM to check the exact settings. From memory, there is no encryption either (SSL/TLS).

There is one bog gotcha. You may not be able to contact the SMTP server over the Internet because of ISP blocking port 25. If this happens, simply change the port it runs on in Mystic. Because the SMTP server doesn't exchange mail with other SMTP servers, the port it runs on is not critical, and most clients allow you to change the SMTP port.


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I won't quote the whole message but thank you very much. I am going to give
it a shot now.. Yes I am running Mystic, I don't know why I didn't mention
it.. :) Thank you again.. I'll post back after I am done..

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Nah, doesn't work.. I'm using a free dns service, that could possibly be it..
I have tried my ip address, pop.wn2.duckdns.org, wn2.duckdns.org, and nothing seems to hit.. The one thing I did do was change the ports to 1100 and 2500..
I appreciate the help.. If you or anyone has any other suggestions, I am all ears..

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On 06-22-18 20:06, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I won't quote the whole message but thank you very much. I am going to give it a shot now.. Yes I am running Mystic, I don't know why I didn't mention it.. :) Thank you again.. I'll post back after I am done..

Good luck, hope it works out. :)


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On 06-22-18 20:23, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Nah, doesn't work.. I'm using a free dns service, that could possibly
be it.. I have tried my ip address, pop.wn2.duckdns.org,
wn2.duckdns.org, and nothing seems to hit.. The one thing I did do was change the ports to 1100 and 2500.. I appreciate the help.. If you or anyone has any other suggestions, I am all ears..

Now's the time to divide and conquer.

I'm assuming you're behind a router. If that is the case, try telnetting to the configured SMTP port e.g. -

telnet 192.168.1.3 1000 (if you are running a SMTP server on port 1000).

You should get a SMTP greeting. If not, you need to check it is actually running (restart Mystic) and ensure there's no firewall blocking the port. This step verifies that you actually have a SMTP server listening. :)

Next step - checking port forwarding. To do this, you need access to a machine OUTSIDE your LAN. If you don't have one, simply ask here for people to test your SMTP server. Again, someone just needs to telnet to your DDNS hostname from outside your network. If this step works, then the fundamentals are in place.

The final step is to try the same test to your DDNS hostname or public IP from INSIDE your LAN. This step tests the router's "hairpinning" (i.e. port forwarding a connection to the router's public IP originating behind the same router) capability. If this works, all is good. If it doesn't, then you have a router that doesn't support hairpinning. For your application, this is a pain, because you then need to find ways to work around this in a way that means you won't need to reconfigure your mail reading machine when you leave home.

The first is to run internal DNS and setup a "shadow" domain that has your public hostname, but on your LAN, points to the internal IP.

I did think of another way to do it, but it slipped my mind. :) Oh, yeah, buy a new router. :D If you're using something like a Linux box, you can add a rule in iptables to enable hairpinning.

Anyway, let's see what testing shows.

Of course, you can put your server's internal IP into your hosts file when at home, and comment it our when travelling, but that's a PITA. :)


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Not going to quote that either. LOL You hit on something there which I didn't check, my firewall.. Gotta check that out I think it might be blocking the ports... I will let you know.

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On 06-23-18 07:14, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Not going to quote that either. LOL You hit on something there which I didn't check, my firewall.. Gotta check that out I think it might be blocking the ports... I will let you know.

Go through the steps I gave, see where things die :)


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On 06/23/18, Vk3jed said the following...

Go through the steps I gave, see where things die :)

Will do.. Right now I am having issues with my Server Machine (Not BBS
related) and I have to straighten that out..

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On 06-23-18 10:16, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 06/23/18, Vk3jed said the following...

Go through the steps I gave, see where things die :)

Will do.. Right now I am having issues with my Server Machine (Not BBS related) and I have to straighten that out..

OK, good luck. I'm interested in what you find.


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On 06/24/18, Vk3jed said the following...

OK, good luck. I'm interested in what you find.

Will do.. Thank you so much for the help.. I do appreciate it..

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On 06-23-18 19:04, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 06/24/18, Vk3jed said the following...

OK, good luck. I'm interested in what you find.

Will do.. Thank you so much for the help.. I do appreciate it..

You're welcome


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Welp I think I have this all figured out.. My Cable company does not allow me to run a Mail server on my account. If I want to run a mail server I have to change to a business account and technically I should be on a business
account just running a BBS.. I tried everything you said and nothing worked until finally I called them to find out if ports 25 and 110 were blocked,
they said yes.. I can only use their email servers for email and nothing else again unless I have a business account.. Oh well. Guess it's back to checking the BBS from fTelnet to see if there are any new users.. LOL Thank you again for trying to help me out...

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Re: Re: SMTP/POP3
By: Bucko to Vk3jed on Sun Jun 24 2018 04:34 pm

Welp I think I have this all figured out.. My Cable company does not allow me to run a Mail server on my account. If I want to run a mail server I have to change to a business account and technically I should be on a business account just running a BBS.. I tried everything you said and nothing worked until finally I called them to find out if ports 25 and 110 were blocked, they said yes.. I can only use their email servers for email and nothing else again unless I have a business account.. Oh well. Guess it's back to checking the BBS from fTelnet to see if there are any new users.. LOL Thank you again for trying to help me out...

I have the same issue with my ISP. I am going to call them and see if any kind of meaningful communication is possible.. but I doubt it.

They block port 21 25 and 80 here so I have to put my BBSs web interface on 8080 or some other port, same for FTP. In my case I am able to use the synchro.net mail setup so I can receive mail for trmb.synchro.net, thankfully.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On 06/24/18, Al said the following...

I have the same issue with my ISP. I am going to call them and see if
any kind of meaningful communication is possible.. but I doubt it.

They block port 21 25 and 80 here so I have to put my BBSs web interface on 8080 or some other port, same for FTP. In my case I am able to use the synchro.net mail setup so I can receive mail for trmb.synchro.net, thankfully.

Ttyl :-),
Al

It's sad that no one can get any kind of meaningful communication from their ISP's.. I pay $50 a month for 100meg speed granted that is cheap, and it will be going up in a few months when I completely cut the cord on phone and TV,
but they treat their customers like they are dopes. When I asked if they were blocking port 25 because I wanted to run a mail server for my family the guy said just set them up with addresses from our company! I said I wanted to
host my own, and his answer was you can open a business account.. I told him thanks but no thanks.. Ah what am I complaining about reading the rules I am not even supposed to running a BBS on the network. LOL

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Re: Re: SMTP/POP3
By: Bucko to Al on Sun Jun 24 2018 05:52 pm

It's sad that no one can get any kind of meaningful communication from their ISP's..

They get to much $$$ coming in and they become butheads!

I pay $50 a month for 100meg speed granted that is cheap,

I wouldn't call that cheap but it looks like you are getting good speed for a pretty good price.

Ah what am I complaining about reading the rules I am not even supposed to running a BBS on the network. LOL

It's not like we were running googlemail or something.. it's just a BBS!

There is nothing about a BBS that they need to be scared of. Nothing!

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On 06-24-18 16:34, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Welp I think I have this all figured out.. My Cable company does not
allow me to run a Mail server on my account. If I want to run a mail server I have to change to a business account and technically I should
be on a business account just running a BBS.. I tried everything you
said and nothing worked until finally I called them to find out if
ports 25 and 110 were blocked, they said yes.. I can only use their
email servers for email and nothing else again unless I have a business account.. Oh well. Guess it's back to checking the BBS from fTelnet to
see if there are any new users.. LOL Thank you again for trying to help
me out...

Have you tried running the SMTP and POP servers on non standard ports? That should be fine on Mystic, because it's not interacting with other mail servers.
You just have to make sure your client is told what ports to use.


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On 06-24-18 13:41, Al wrote to Bucko <=-

I have the same issue with my ISP. I am going to call them and see if
any kind of meaningful communication is possible.. but I doubt it.

They block port 21 25 and 80 here so I have to put my BBSs web
interface on 8080 or some other port, same for FTP. In my case I am
able to use the synchro.net mail setup so I can receive mail for trmb.synchro.net, thankfully.

Mystic's email servers are a special case, and there's a bit more room for flexibility, because they don't handle Internet email. They are only there for users to send/receive local email using an email client. This means that it does not matter what ports you use for the SMTP and POP servers. Go pick an odd port for each, setup your client to suit, and you're good to go.

Synchronet (as you know Al ;) ) is a bit different, because it DOES do Internet email, and therefore needs to be able to listen on SMTP port 25, unless you have an alternat means of relaying incoming email. Similarly for outbound email, where you'll need to use a relay to get pst your ISP's block.


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Re: Re: SMTP/POP3
By: Vk3jed to Al on Mon Jun 25 2018 08:17 am

Synchronet (as you know Al ;) ) is a bit different, because it DOES do Internet email, and therefore needs to be able to listen on SMTP port 25, unless you have an alternat means of relaying incoming email. Similarly for outbound email, where you'll need to use a relay to get pst your ISP's block.

It does but I can't do email myself here because of the block on port 25. Vertrauen does the heavy lifting for me recieving mail for trmb.synchro.net and then sending it here on submission port 587 (I think).

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On 06/24/18, Al said the following...

They get to much $$$ coming in and they become butheads!

True, around my parts you have only a few choices, FIOS, or Cablevision, if
you want to go with DirecTV internet you need a dish for it. There are others but they offer no speed whatsoever..

I pay $50 a month for 100meg speed granted that is cheap,

I wouldn't call that cheap but it looks like you are getting good speed for a pretty good price.

Actually around here (NY) it is cheap, FIOS is a bit cheaper but you get
50meg speed for like $60.

Ah what am I complaining about reading the rules I am not even suppos running a BBS on the network. LOL

It's not like we were running googlemail or something.. it's just a BBS!

There is nothing about a BBS that they need to be scared of. Nothing!

Ttyl :-),
Al

I know, all I was looking for was a way to get a notification on my phone
that I had email and to be able to see it, if I saw a New User, I would
fTelnet in with my phone give the person access and be done till I got home. Guess it will have to be just fTelnetting in checking messages and logging off.. Oh well...

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On 06/25/18, Vk3jed said the following...

Have you tried running the SMTP and POP servers on non standard ports? That should be fine on Mystic, because it's not interacting with other mail servers. You just have to make sure your client is told what ports
to use.

Yea, I tried 2500 and 1100, and neither worked.. I think the only way around this would be to get a new Router, I am using the one supplied by my cable company.. I've been looking into a new one guess it might be time.. Tired of supplying a hot spot for my cable company so they can advertise thousands of hotspots all over Metro NY!

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Re: Re: SMTP/POP3
By: Bucko to Vk3jed on Sun Jun 24 2018 07:24 pm

Yea, I tried 2500 and 1100, and neither worked.. I think the only way around this would be to get a new Router,

That should work with pretty much any router.

Did you shutdown and restart mis so it is using those ports?

Tired of supplying a hot spot for my cable company so they can advertise thousands of hotspots all over Metro NY!

That's an interesting way to do it!

Actually it might work in a highly populated area. On the down side though you are footing the bill for that.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On 06/24/18, Al said the following...

Yea, I tried 2500 and 1100, and neither worked.. I think the only way around this would be to get a new Router,

That should work with pretty much any router.

Did you shutdown and restart mis so it is using those ports?

Yea, I did, it should work but there is no option on my modem for SMTP or POP only Telnet, Http, FTP and a few others for games. I guess Newegg will be getting an order from me in the very near future.. LOL

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Re: Re: SMTP/POP3
By: Bucko to Al on Sun Jun 24 2018 08:34 pm

Yea, I did, it should work but there is no option on my modem for SMTP or POP only Telnet, Http, FTP and a few others for games. I guess Newegg will be getting an order from me in the very near future.. LOL

Is there an option to open those ports and forward them to your BBS machine?

I would think there is but every router I have had is different. The one I have now is different agian. The IPv4 stuff is all similar to what I remember. The IPv6 stuff has no help, not even a pointer to the web.

It seems to work though.. so I guess it's all good.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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I don't know what the heck I did but I got it working! I changed the ports again, and I played around with the firewall, then I saw incoming on the MIS Server and it started working... It doesn't clear off my phone when I delete from the "server" but I'm good with that, I can just delete them manually on the phone.. It's not fast and I don't need to respond to emails on it because
I did and it never came through but as long as I can see that I have mail I
can do what I have to.. THANK YOU for all of your help!!!! It is much appreciated.. I'll be honest with you and all those reading, the Mystic group of SysOp's remind me of when I ran a SysOp group called NISSA for Image BBS. Those involved with NISSA which I believe topped 100 BBS'at one point had the same attitude, it was all about helping each other. Everyone from Avon down
to the guy holding the door open for newbies to the software like me are top notch! Thank you again...

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Hey Al.. I posted on another post, but I got it working.. Don't know how but
it works so I am happy.. It was something vkj3ed said about telnetting in to the ports. I did and the pop accepted but the SMTP did not but I was getting errors from MIS Server, turns out I was logged on to the BBS and it was blocking me.. Anyways.. It works and I just wanted to thank you for your help...

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Re: Re: SMTP/POP3
By: Bucko to Al on Sun Jun 24 2018 09:54 pm

Hey Al.. I posted on another post, but I got it working.. Don't know how but it works so I am happy.. It was something vkj3ed said about telnetting in to the ports.

Cool.. sometimes you just have to keep pushing buttons till it does what you want it to do.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On 06-24-18 15:57, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

It does but I can't do email myself here because of the block on port
25. Vertrauen does the heavy lifting for me recieving mail for trmb.synchro.net and then sending it here on submission port 587 (I think).

Yeah, a pain. :(

I'm lucky, no port blocking here (other than what I have on my VPN router - manly blocking SIP hacking attempts.


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On 06-24-18 19:24, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yea, I tried 2500 and 1100, and neither worked.. I think the only way around this would be to get a new Router, I am using the one supplied
by my cable company.. I've been looking into a new one guess it might
be time.. Tired of supplying a hot spot for my cable company so they
can advertise thousands of hotspots all over Metro NY!

Have you got someone to try from outside? Let me know what port(s) you're listening on and give me 24 hours to make an attempt. Oh, and the hostname. :)


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On 06-24-18 21:51, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

attitude, it was all about helping each other. Everyone from Avon down
to the guy holding the door open for newbies to the software like me
are top notch! Thank you again...

Glad to hear it's working, and you're welcome. Always happy to help! :)


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On 06/24/18, Bucko pondered and said...

I don't know what the heck I did but I got it working! I changed the
ports again, and I played around with the firewall, then I saw incoming
on the MIS Server and it started working... It doesn't clear off my

Yay!

NISSA which I believe topped 100 BBS'at one point had the same attitude, it was all about helping each other. Everyone from Avon down to the guy

I'm really glad you have had a good experience thus far, and my thanks too to the rest of the group for their ideas and support. It's a team effort :)

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On 06-24-18 20:34, Bucko wrote to Al <=-

Yea, I did, it should work but there is no option on my modem for SMTP
or POP only Telnet, Http, FTP and a few others for games. I guess
Newegg will be getting an order from me in the very near future.. LOL

You should be able to specify ports manually as an option.


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On 06-24-18 17:45, Al wrote to Bucko <=-

I would think there is but every router I have had is different. The
one I have now is different agian. The IPv4 stuff is all similar to
what I remember. The IPv6 stuff has no help, not even a pointer to the web.

IPv6 is actually different. There is no "port forwarding" as such, though most routers will call it that, in an attempt to dumb it down. IPv6 firewalling is actually a packet filter, and most IPv6 capable routers block all incoming traffic by default. You can open either specific ports or all traffic to a specific host. Unlike IPv4 port forwarding, IPv6 filtering allows you to have multiple exposed hosts and multiple hosts with the same ports open.


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On 06/24/18, Al said the following...

Cool.. sometimes you just have to keep pushing buttons till it does what you want it to do.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

Very true... Now as long as it keeps working.. LOL Was a good weekend for my computer skills and system.. Got a lot accomplished!

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On 06/25/18, Vk3jed said the following...

Have you got someone to try from outside? Let me know what port(s)
you're listening on and give me 24 hours to make an attempt. Oh, and
the hostname. :)

Yes, I went in on my cell phone, not on wifi just regular data and it worked fine.. If you want to check its' wn2.duckdns.org and ports 1100 and 2500..

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On 06/25/18, Avon said the following...

I'm really glad you have had a good experience thus far, and my thanks
too to the rest of the group for their ideas and support. It's a team effort :)

Definitely is.. :)

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It's sad that no one can get any kind of meaningful communication from their ISP's.. I pay $50 a month for 100meg speed granted that is cheap, and it will be going up in a few months when I completely cut the cord

What internet service provider are you using? What country?

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On 06/25/18, Beery said the following...

What internet service provider are you using? What country?

--Beery Miller -- 9640 News BBS -- 9640news.ddns.net:9640 --

I use Cablevision here in NY USA..

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Re: Re: SMTP/POP3
By: Vk3jed to Al on Mon Jun 25 2018 07:44 pm

IPv6 is actually different. There is no "port forwarding" as such, though most routers will call it that, in an attempt to dumb it down.

My router does this along with an IPv6 DMZ. It took me a couple tries to get it working so I don't dare go in there again unless I have to..

There is no help.. at all. I think somebody shipped that modem in a hurry!

I actually never knew I had IPv6 until I noticed binkd polling nodes using IPv6 addresses! It was a nice surprise.

Unlike IPv4 port forwarding, IPv6 filtering allows you to have multiple exposed hosts and multiple hosts with the same ports open.

So I could have binkd on port 24554 on my BBS machine and binkd also on port 24554 on my desktop machine?

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On 06/24/18, Bucko said the following...

Welp I think I have this all figured out.. My Cable company does not
allow me to run a Mail server on my account. If I want to run a mail server I have to change to a business account and technically I should
be on a business account just running a BBS.. I tried everything you
said and nothing worked until finally I called them to find out if ports 25 and 110 were blocked, they said yes.. I can only use their email servers for email and nothing else again unless I have a business

then find out what ports are open and use those. ;)

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On 06/25/18, dream master said the following...

then find out what ports are open and use those. ;)

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Already done.. Actually working pretty good.. All I wanted was to be able to know I had an email waiting and it works well for what i want.. :)

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On 06-25-18 07:24, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yes, I went in on my cell phone, not on wifi just regular data and it worked fine.. If you want to check its' wn2.duckdns.org and ports 1100
and 2500..

Working here too. :)


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On 06-25-18 09:47, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

My router does this along with an IPv6 DMZ. It took me a couple tries
to get it working so I don't dare go in there again unless I have to..

Another "dumbing down", what most people know as "DMZ" these days is actually an exposed host. A true DMZ is actually a subnet which has piblic IP (v4, v6 or both) addresses with some basic packet filtering in front of them. Such a DMZ is normally used for an entity's public facing servers. It _would_ be possible to set something like this up on most IPv6 connections, but I haven't seen a domestic router that can apply selected filtering rules to a subnet or other range of addresses. Back in the day, I used to use Linux boxes as routers for a cheap solution (much cheaper than a Cisco ;) ).

I actually never knew I had IPv6 until I noticed binkd polling nodes
using IPv6 addresses! It was a nice surprise.

Nice! :D

Unlike IPv4 port forwarding, IPv6 filtering allows you to have multiple exposed hosts and multiple hosts with the same ports open.

So I could have binkd on port 24554 on my BBS machine and binkd also on port 24554 on my desktop machine?

On IPv6? certainly! I have both of my BBSs listening on IPv6 on the same ports through my main Internet connection. :) They also do on IPv4, but I had to cheat and get an extra range of addresses in via VPN to do that. :)


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Another "dumbing down", what most people know as "DMZ" these days is actually an exposed host. A true DMZ is actually a subnet which has piblic IP (v4, v6 or both) addresses with some basic packet filtering in front of them. Such a DMZ is normally used for an entity's public
facing servers. It _would_ be possible to set something like this up on most IPv6 connections, but I haven't seen a domestic router that can
apply selected filtering rules to a subnet or other range of addresses. Back in the day, I used to use Linux boxes as routers for a cheap

Hello Vk3jed

Have you looked into PFSense?
It have so many options I'm not sure but for open source it is one of the
very best firewall/router options I have ever worked with.


Havok

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On 06/26/18, Vk3jed said the following...

Working here too. :)

Cool. Appreciate all the help again. Worked like a charm today, I got an
email on the board and it popped up on my phone. Unlike back in the 80's and 90's when I originally ran my board and didn't care about when I would give access, I want to try to give access to all New Members within an hour of
them calling. NOW with the emails coming through I can do that.. Thanks
again..

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On 06-25-18 20:09, Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Have you looked into PFSense?
It have so many options I'm not sure but for open source it is one of
the very best firewall/router options I have ever worked with.

I wasn't asking for advice, just explaining some of the weird and wonderful abuse of terminology. :D


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On 06-25-18 20:18, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Cool. Appreciate all the help again. Worked like a charm today, I got
an email on the board and it popped up on my phone. Unlike back in the 80's and 90's when I originally ran my board and didn't care about when
I would give access, I want to try to give access to all New Members within an hour of them calling. NOW with the emails coming through I
can do that.. Thanks again..

Sounds like it's all working well. :)


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On 06/26/18, Vk3jed said the following...

Sounds like it's all working well. :)

Yeppers.. Thanks again for the help and leading me in the right direction...

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On 06/22/18, Bucko said the following...

Nah, doesn't work.. I'm using a free dns service, that could possibly be it.. I have tried my ip address, pop.wn2.duckdns.org, wn2.duckdns.org,
and nothing seems to hit.. The one thing I did do was change the ports

It would be wn2.duckdns.org and your not setup for ping, I just tied it.
It is the right address and wn2.duckdns.org port 23 returns:
Welcome To: Then Wrong Number ][ BBS = Telnet Node: wn2.duckdns.org:23
and so on. There is no magic that adds the pop to the front of it ;) An example is all my addresses are bcw142.zapto.org with different ports, so yours are the same (wn2.duckdns.org with different ports).

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On 06/25/18, bcw142 said the following...

It would be wn2.duckdns.org and your not setup for ping, I just tied it. It is the right address and wn2.duckdns.org port 23 returns:
Welcome To: Then Wrong Number ][ BBS = Telnet Node: wn2.duckdns.org:23 and so on. There is no magic that adds the pop to the front of it ;) An example is all my addresses are bcw142.zapto.org with different ports,
so yours are the same (wn2.duckdns.org with different ports).

Got it working, the add of pop to it was from my mail app on the phone when adding in the info it added pop to the beginning of the address. I took it
out and used a different port number and it works fine now... Thanks...

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On 06-26-18 07:11, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yeppers.. Thanks again for the help and leading me in the right direction...

You're welcome, helping out is part of the fun here. :)


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I wasn't asking for advice, just explaining some of the weird and wonderful abuse of terminology. :D

Hello wasn't really giving any, your pretty good at what you do now!

Was more wondering if you had ever worked with it yourself.


Havok

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On 06/26/18, Bucko said the following...

Got it working, the add of pop to it was from my mail app on the phone when adding in the info it added pop to the beginning of the address. I took it out and used a different port number and it works fine now... Thanks...

Great, getting things working is the important part ;)
Working on cleaning up some of my Events and seem to have caused a few
problems along the way ;( This Windows10 version which I rarely run seems to
be working the best of my points. My best video editor is on Windows10 so have to run it to edit from time to time. This one dual boots Windows10/Linux.

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On 06-26-18 19:03, Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I wasn't asking for advice, just explaining some of the weird and wonderful abuse of terminology. :D

Hello wasn't really giving any, your pretty good at what you do now!

Thanks. :)

Was more wondering if you had ever worked with it yourself.

No, never use pFSense, though I am aware of its reputation as a solid packet filter based firewall. I've tended to use Linux based equivalents, mainly because of my years working with Linux.


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I played with Pfsense a few years back but eventually switched to vyatta
which was forked to vyos after vyatta went commercial. I love the features which are comparable to a router running dd-wrt but you can run vyos on a computer which can provide a lot more horsepower.

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On 06-27-18 22:46, nristen wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I played with Pfsense a few years back but eventually switched to
vyatta which was forked to vyos after vyatta went commercial. I love
the features which are comparable to a router running dd-wrt but you
can run vyos on a computer which can provide a lot more horsepower.

OK, I haven't heard of that one.


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