Yo folks. Can someone shed some light on the NO IP2LOCATION error I get in
the logs? I'm actually trying to route email through by adding the redirect ip in the whitelist doesnt seem to work.

Thanks so much

Mick Manning

Mick Manning
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On 04/23/18, Mickey said the following...

Yo folks. Can someone shed some light on the NO IP2LOCATION error I get
in the logs? I'm actually trying to route email through by adding the redirect ip in the whitelist doesnt seem to work.

you know the smtp is only for getting mail from the bbs not regular email at the moment?

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you know the smtp is only for getting mail from the bbs not regular
email at the moment?

Can you help me out here a bit? Trying to understand the limitations here.
I'm running a Windows 10 64bit system.

Would outside users be able to pickup email sent to them by name using their BBS login credentials if the SMTP port was open?

I'm guessing there is no way to pickup all content from a message area.

Beery

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On 04/24/18, Beery said the following...

you know the smtp is only for getting mail from the bbs not regular email at the moment?

Can you help me out here a bit? Trying to understand the limitations here. I'm running a Windows 10 64bit system.
Would outside users be able to pickup email sent to them by name using their BBS login credentials if the SMTP port was open?

yes basically it is used only for email on the bbs. no file attachment.
g00r00 is thinking on making it regular RFC email like sbbs if i remember correctly but for now its just getting email no messages in the message base.

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/64)
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Yo folks. Can someone shed some light on the NO IP2LOCATION error I get
in the logs? I'm actually trying to route email through by adding the

Chances are you just don't have the database installed. When you're in the configuration open up "Country blocking" and read the comments there. It
will tell you where to get the database.

Or you can download an older one I have at:

www.mysticbbs.com/downloads/iplocation.zip

Once you have it copy the "iplocation.bin" into your DATA folder

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dream master wrote to Beery <=-

yes basically it is used only for email on the bbs. no file attachment. g00r00 is thinking on making it regular RFC email like sbbs if i
remember correctly but for now its just getting email no messages in
the message base.

Yep, all you get with SMTP/POP is the ability to send/receive local "email" to you own BBS users. While not as flexible as SBBS, I have still found that feature to be useful at times.


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Yep, all you get with SMTP/POP is the ability to send/receive local "email" to you own BBS users. While not as flexible as SBBS, I have
still found that feature to be useful at times.

Silly me

I guess you'll have to explain that to me, I don't have the email setup but still write mail to other users.

Do you mean with the email option on you can in fact send email to a user
with the email they leave when they sign up and it then sends a email to them?


Havok

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Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I guess you'll have to explain that to me, I don't have the email setup but still write mail to other users.

Do you mean with the email option on you can in fact send email to a
user with the email they leave when they sign up and it then sends a
email to them?

You can use SMTP/POP email software to read email from your users and write to them. Any email you send that way will appear in their email when they next log in, and any email they send (e.g. comments to the sysop) will appear on the BBS as normal to you, as well as in your POP email.


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You can use SMTP/POP email software to read email from your users and write to them. Any email you send that way will appear in their email when they next log in, and any email they send (e.g. comments to the sysop) will appear on the BBS as normal to you, as well as in your POP email.

Ok got ya, thanks for the reply!

Who stated you can't teach a old dog and new trick!


Havok

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On 04/25/18, g00r00 said the following...

Yo folks. Can someone shed some light on the NO IP2LOCATION error I g in the logs? I'm actually trying to route email through by adding the

Chances are you just don't have the database installed. When you're in the configuration open up "Country blocking" and read the comments
there. It will tell you where to get the database.

Thank you so much. Somehow I had missed the note in the Country Blocking text file. I downloaded it, renamed it, and it seems to work now.

I have an 'alternative' package handling the outside mail at the moment, but having it done within Mystic seems rather 'interesting'.

Thanks for the solution.

Mick

Mick Manning
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Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Ok got ya, thanks for the reply!

Who stated you can't teach a old dog and new trick!

You're welcome, and yeah we do pick up new tricks. :D


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You're welcome, and yeah we do pick up new tricks. :D

Laughing now if only late at night I could learn the trick of spelling out what I want it to say!


Havok

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On 04/26/18, Vk3jed said the following...

dream master wrote to Beery <=-

Yep, all you get with SMTP/POP is the ability to send/receive local "email" to you own BBS users. While not as flexible as SBBS, I have
still found that feature to be useful at times.

Noob question, what exactly is SMTP and what's it used for?

Thanks

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Yep, all you get with SMTP/POP is the ability to send/receive local "email" to you own BBS users. While not as flexible as SBBS, I have still found that feature to be useful at times.

OK, I can send email to my users on my BBS.

My URL for my board is 9640News.ddns.net

Would I send the email to Beery@9640News.ddns.net ?

If things are local "email", is there a mail client outside of Mystic to do this? Trying to figure out what/where would be configured. I assume when things are then local, no mobile devices are then able to access the SMTP/POP servers?

Just trying to understand how it would or could be used in its present form.

Beery

--Beery Miller -- 9640 News BBS -- 9640news.ddns.net:9640 --

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Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You're welcome, and yeah we do pick up new tricks. :D

Laughing now if only late at night I could learn the trick of spelling out what I want it to say!

Haha spit it out! :D


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KrUpTiOn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Noob question, what exactly is SMTP and what's it used for?

SMTP = Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, and it's normally used to transfer email between Internet hosts, and for users to send mail to their ISP's mail server for delivery. However, in Mystic, SMTP is currently only used to allow people to send local BBS (i.e. to users on the same BBS) email using their favourite Internet email client (Outlook, Thunderbird, etc). Mystic doesn't support sending and receiving Internet email at this point in time.


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On 04/27/18, Vk3jed said the following...

SMTP = Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, and it's normally used to transfer email between Internet hosts, and for users to send mail to their ISP's mail server for delivery. However, in Mystic, SMTP is currently only
used to allow people to send local BBS (i.e. to users on the same BBS)

That's what I THOUGHT it was, and couldn't understand what use it would have
in Mystic.

Thanks!

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KrUpTiOn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

That's what I THOUGHT it was, and couldn't understand what use it would have in Mystic.

Yeah, just takes a change in thinking to understand.


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Haha spit it out! :D

But, but, but!


Havok

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Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Haha spit it out! :D

But, but, but!

Hmm, you should quit smoking, it's not good for you. :P


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But, but, but!

Hmm, you should quit smoking, it's not good for you. :P

[Laughing]

Thanks I needed that today....


Havok

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Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

But, but, but!

Hmm, you should quit smoking, it's not good for you. :P

[Laughing]

Thanks I needed that today....

Haha glad I could help. :D


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Noob question, what exactly is SMTP and what's it used for?

It stands for "Simple Mail Transfer Protocol". Its the protocol that sends your (Internet) e-mail replies to where they need to go. So when you click that "send" button on an e-mail, your e-mail client ultimately connects to a SMTP server and sends your message. The SMTP server then does what it needs to do with it to make it get to where it needs to go.

Just like SMTP is for sending, POP3 or IMAP are the popular protocols for retrieving your e-mail. IMAP is the better of the two, but POP3 is the older and most widely supported...

When your e-mail client or phone is "checking for new mail", what its really doing is talking to either an IMAP or POP3 server and saying "Hey I am so and so and I can prove it... now show me my mailbox!".

Now if you're asking in the context of Mystic itself let me know. Mystic does have these things, but I use them in a different way which I will gladly explain.

My philosophy is: "How can I leverage the Internet to make the BBS experience better to the SysOp and BBS User" as opposed to: "How can I use the Internet/ web to replace the BBS experience"...

And I will elaborate on that if you'd like.

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On 04/27/18, Vk3jed said the following...

KrUpTiOn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

That's what I THOUGHT it was, and couldn't understand what use it wou have in Mystic.

Yeah, just takes a change in thinking to understand.

I think I was having a brain fart, I've been having alot of those lately! :\

Regards

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KrUpTiOn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I think I was having a brain fart, I've been having alot of those
lately! :\

Haha pretty common, know that feeling well. :D


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g00r00 wrote to KrUpTiOn <=-

My philosophy is: "How can I leverage the Internet to make the BBS experience better to the SysOp and BBS User" as opposed to: "How can I
use the Internet/ web to replace the BBS experience"...

That makes sense to me. Mine is subtly different, in that mine is "How can I use the BBS to improve the Internet experience?" - given the issues I have with more standard Internet web forums. Part of my philosophy is being inclusive to more users, and the modern BBS is ahead in some ways, compared to web forums and a lot of mobile apps. Sure it's not multimedia, but I'm not so worried about that.

Anyway, keep up the good work. :)


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On 04/29/18, Vk3jed said the following...

I think I was having a brain fart, I've been having alot of those lately! :\

Haha pretty common, know that feeling well. :D

Even more so after I put in alot of work on my BBS the last few days to tweak and get things fixed! Gotta do it while I'm motiated! ;)

Regards

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KrUpTiOn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Even more so after I put in alot of work on my BBS the last few days to tweak and get things fixed! Gotta do it while I'm motiated! ;)

Yeah, while you're on a roll, go for it. :)


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Noob question, what exactly is SMTP and what's it used for?

Simple
Mail
Transfer
Protocol

It is the protocol used to get your email, and everyone else's from one mail server to another.


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