• Another Mystic Echomail Inconsistency

    From Hawke@21:1/148 to All on Friday, September 30, 2016 22:27:00
    I have noticed another Mystic echomail problem.

    It regards word wrap on a non mystic tosser. Most other Jam capable
    BBS's will wrap the words if there is no word wrap in the original
    message... however Mystic seems to roll the text right off in the
    middle of the word.

    For instance at the right margen if you had supercell not wrap it
    would look like ...

    Superce
    ll

    I think Mystic's tosser handles word wrapping for Mystic... but using
    a standard tosser the word wrap is ignored and mystic let's it break
    where it will break.

    Golded, Elebbs, RA and other systems that use JAM will wrap the
    messages automatically if the text does not break at the end of line
    with a CR/LF.

    Mystic will display messages properly that originate from Mystic,
    Platinum Express (wildcat), PCBoard, and other systems that will put
    the CR/LF at the end of the message.

    I hope that the tosser can be tweaked... and hopefully G00R00 returns
    refreshed and renewed.

    Allen


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  • From Gryphon@21:1/120 to Hawke on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 15:49:00
    On 09/30/16, Hawke said the following...

    I have noticed another Mystic echomail problem.

    It regards word wrap on a non mystic tosser. Most other Jam capable
    BBS's will wrap the words if there is no word wrap in the original message... however Mystic seems to roll the text right off in the
    middle of the word.

    For instance at the right margen if you had supercell not wrap it
    would look like ...

    Superce
    ll

    I think Mystic's tosser handles word wrapping for Mystic... but using
    a standard tosser the word wrap is ignored and mystic let's it break
    where it will break.

    Golded, Elebbs, RA and other systems that use JAM will wrap the
    messages automatically if the text does not break at the end of line
    with a CR/LF.

    Mystic will display messages properly that originate from Mystic,
    Platinum Express (wildcat), PCBoard, and other systems that will put
    the CR/LF at the end of the message.

    I hope that the tosser can be tweaked... and hopefully G00R00 returns refreshed and renewed.

    I've found that the problem doesn't lie at the feet of Mystic. The problem
    is that the originating messages come from OLRs or web-based NNTP apps where the margins are set to something other than 80 columns. Those readers will inject CR/LF codes in weird places. Is it Mystic's job to decypher what the writer meant to do?

    "No matter where you go, there you are!" - Buckaroo Bonzai

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  • From Allen Prunty@21:1/148 to Gryphon on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 22:25:00

    Hello Gryphon!

    11 Oct 16 15:49, you wrote to Hawke:

    I've found that the problem doesn't lie at the feet of Mystic. The problem is that the originating messages come from OLRs or web-based
    NNTP apps where the margins are set to something other than 80
    columns. Those readers will inject CR/LF codes in weird places. Is
    it Mystic's job to decypher what the writer meant to do?

    Actually it is and it isn't :-)

    IN the sense that the NNTP aps mess up the margins you are completely correct on this one. But if you notice when I write with ELE (not with golded like I am doing now) it re-wraps all lines and even moves all the quote indicators like Gr> to wrap at the 75th column. WHich is enough room when the next software that wraps everything wonky doesn't look to bad. The next reply, if done on ELE will re-wrap and adjust everything again. Pretty nice parlor trick
    if you ask me (golded wraps literally at the 80th column which can make a messay reply when you quote me.)

    When you post on ELE's NNTP server it will also parse and re-wrap things. THis
    is lacking in mystic... the best NNTP server for bbs use is JamNNTPD. That one is designed just for NNTP and it will make all posts look as they are supposed to look.

    Most software out there that has an NNTP server is much older than mystic. The
    NNTP server in Mystic is still pretty new. in the great scheme of things.

    Allen


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