I posted this on the FB Areas, didn't get alot of help, figured I'd ask here.

Is there anybody running Mystic A39 for linux under ubuntu and running mis at boot and you have online doors on your BBS working?

mis is loading fine, but for some reason I'm having permission issues when it goes to load doors. I crontab -e "/mis -daemon" even tried sudo crontab
-e.

even added 'sudo ./mis -daemon' which I know isn't needed since crontab runs
as root.

Thanks for any help

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On 03/13/18, Lord of Darkness said the following...

I posted this on the FB Areas, didn't get alot of help, figured I'd ask here.
Is there anybody running Mystic A39 for linux under ubuntu and running
mis at boot and you have online doors on your BBS working?
mis is loading fine, but for some reason I'm having permission issues
when it goes to load doors. I crontab -e "/mis -daemon" even tried sudo crontab -e.

g00r00 released a new pre alpha today. you could try that you have to remember it's a pre alpha not stable. was it working before with A38?

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I posted this on the FB Areas, didn't get alot of help, figured I'd ask here.

That's not true, I've tried helping you a lot, but without the exact error message, there's no way to know what's happening. We've suggested you make a video of the BBS running and then run it in slow-mo or pause it when the
error message pops up. To my knowledge you haven't done this, so we're just guessing things you can try without actually even knowing what the problem is.

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On 03/13/18, Lord of Darkness pondered and said...

Is there anybody running Mystic A39 for linux under ubuntu and running
mis at boot and you have online doors on your BBS working?

As you can see by my tear line in this reply I'm running Windows but I will
try and help :)

mis is loading fine, but for some reason I'm having permission issues
when it goes to load doors. I crontab -e "/mis -daemon" even tried sudo crontab -e.

What are you're MIS logs showing and also the node logs when you call a door from your menu as a logged in user?

when it goes to load doors. I crontab -e "/mis -daemon" even tried sudo crontab -e.

even added 'sudo ./mis -daemon' which I know isn't needed since crontab runs as root.

Not sure about all of that but I do think it's recommended you run MIS with sudo

[snip]

Mystic (MIS actually) has built in Telnet (with IO redirection for things
like DOSEMU), SMTP, POP3, FTP, and NNTP servers.

When running in Linux/OSX keep in mind that by default the
operating system will not let a service bind to a port less than
1025 unless it is a ROOT user (in Linux) and NOT AT ALL in OS/X.

In Linux, MIS has the ability to switch from root back to whatever the user
and group is that owns the executable AFTER it binds to the ports it needs
for the server. So in Linux you can simply do a:

sudo ./mis

Or if you want to run it as a DAEMON you can do:

sudo ./mis -d

As mentioned, it will NOT run as root. It will only use root until it binds
to your ports, and then it will switch to the user who owns the executable.

[snip]

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/02/28 (Windows/32)
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On 03/14/18, esc pondered and said...

it when the error message pops up. To my knowledge you haven't done
this, so we're just guessing things you can try without actually even knowing what the problem is.

I agree with you that we need to know the issue in order to help fix it :)

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On 03/14/18, Avon said the following...

sudo ./mis -d

I can confirm that this is exactly how I run Mystic under Linux.

Ian

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A38 2018/01/01 (Linux/32)
* Origin: The Parity Error BBS - Kelowna, BC, Canada (21:1/133)

On 03/14/18, Avon said the following...

mis is loading fine, but for some reason I'm having permission issues when it goes to load doors. I crontab -e "/mis -daemon" even trie sudo crontab -e.

[snip]

Or if you want to run it as a DAEMON you can do:

sudo ./mis -d

Both the above are wrong for the current mis. To run it right the normal command line is:
sudo ./mis daemon
this is because it came from mis2 and was just renamed.
What Avon says was right before mis2 took over, but then the - and the d changed to daemon:

ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Syntax MIS2 <option> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ ³ ³ SERVER Start Mystic servers in interactive server mode ³ DAEMON Start Mystic servers in daemon mode on Unix platforms ³ SHUTDOWN Shutdown running servers on Unix platforms ³ ³ ³ ³ MIS can be started outside the Mystic path if the mysticbbs env variable is ³ set to the Mystic path OR if <option> is prefixed with ROOT <mystic_path> to ³ specify startup path. For example: mis2 root c:\mystic server

It still says MIS2 in the message it writes when you just do sudo ./mis, try
it and see.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/02/28 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Mystic AlphaTest bcw142.zapto.org:2323 (21:1/145.2)

I've worked with ANS,ASCI, Heart Code but not pipe code. What program do most of you like to play with pipe code colors with a file?

Thanks before hand...


Havok

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
* Origin: After Hours|The Villages,FL|afterhours-bbs.com (21:4/119)

On 07/02/18, Havok said the following...

I've worked with ANS,ASCI, Heart Code but not pipe code. What program do most of you like to play with pipe code colors with a file?

Thanks before hand...

Mystic's ANSI editor. It's part of mystic itself. If it's setup you can do: ./mystic -ansi
./mystic -ansi filename.ans
Both Linux examples, just drop the ./ for Windows, keep it for Mac I think.
If you add pipecodes it will show it as a result of the pipecode after the first save (and reload). It won't do that in all modes, in drawing mode it doesn't pipe, the numbers become ansi glyphs (often blocks) instead of
changing the color. It takes some working with it to figure out how to use it, like any editor ;)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)

Mystic's ANSI editor. It's part of mystic itself. If it's setup you can do: ./mystic -ansi
./mystic -ansi filename.ans
Both Linux examples, just drop the ./ for Windows, keep it for Mac I think. If you add pipecodes it will show it as a result of the pipecode after the first save (and reload). It won't do that in all modes, in drawing mode it doesn't pipe, the numbers become ansi glyphs (often blocks) instead of changing the color. It takes some working with it to figure out how to use it, like any editor ;)

Hello and thank you, I know what you mean about the editor. I have used it
and was hoping a shareware package was out there in the wild too.

But I guess I'll play with Mystic's own and see how I do.

Thanks


Havok

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
* Origin: After Hours|The Villages,FL|afterhours-bbs.com (21:4/119)

Has anyone made a good bot for throwing ads up in the networks for your BBS?

Maybe someone can point the way....

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Re: Question
By: Havok to All on Sun Aug 05 2018 10:56 am

Has anyone made a good bot for throwing ads up in the networks for your BBS?

Maybe someone can point the way....

The FSX_BOT are is full of BBS ads, new file reports etc. that were posted by mutil. Have a look in your mutil.ini for "PostTextFiles".

I have a postmsg.js on Synchronet that I use for the same purpose.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On 08-05-18 10:56, Havok wrote to All <=-

Has anyone made a good bot for throwing ads up in the networks for your BBS?

Maybe someone can point the way....

mutil is your friend. All you need is the right mutil configuration and a text file containing your ad.

Here's the key points from my bot:

[General]
PostTextFiles = true


[PostTextFiles]
totalfiles = 4 ; number of files to be posted in this run.

file1_name = vkradio.txt ; Text file containing body of message
file1_baseidx = 32 ; Permanent ID of message area
file1_from = vk3jed ; From: field
file1_to = All ; To: field
file1_subj = Join VKRadio ; Subject
file1_addr = 21:1/143 ; Origin FTN address
file1_delfile = false ; Don't delete text file (I need it
gain)

file2_name = vkradio.txt
file2_baseidx = 36
file2_from = vk3jed
file2_to = All
file2_subj = Join VKRadio
file2_addr = 801:1/9
file2_delfile = false

file3_name = vkradio.txt
file3_baseidx = 15
file3_from = vk3jed
file3_to = All
file3_subj = Join VKRadio
file3_addr = 80:774/6
file3_delfile = false

file4_name = vkradio.txt
file4_baseidx = 90
file4_from = Tony Langdon
file4_to = All
file4_subj = Join VKRadio
file4_addr = 3:633/410.1
file4_delfile = false

Note this is the bare minimum, I haven't included logging, etc.

Now to run this is easy, you just need a simple script or betch file to call mutil. Here's mine.

#!/bin/bash

. ~/.profile
cd /mystic
# ./fidopoll killbusy
./mutil mutil.bot.ini

The important line is the last one. The rest are to ensure it runs correctly from a cron job.


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On 02-14-18 02:57, Havok wrote to Al <=-

The FSX_BOT are is full of BBS ads, new file reports etc. that were
posted by mutil. Have a look in your mutil.ini for "PostTextFiles".

Was looking at it today, how well does it work with other message
networks also?

Cee the example I posted that posts ads to 4 different FTNS. :)


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Re: Re: Question
By: Vk3jed to Havok on Mon Aug 06 2018 08:49 am

The FSX_BOT are is full of BBS ads, new file reports etc. that were
posted by mutil. Have a look in your mutil.ini for "PostTextFiles".

Was looking at it today, how well does it work with other message
networks also?

Works fine with all the other nets I have used it with.

BTW, I never received this message here. I am replying via vk3jed's response to you. Looks the the date stamp on that message is Feb, 14, 2018??

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On 02/14/18, Havok pondered and said...

Morning or evening, guess it all depends!

Evening as I type this. 9.27pm on a Monday night... have a good err.. day :)

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On 02-14-18 17:06, Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

mutil is your friend. All you need is the right mutil configuration and
a text file containing your ad.

Morning or evening, guess it all depends!

Thanks, I'll start looking into it today....

Enjoy, it should be pretty straightforward. :)


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Evening as I type this. 9.27pm on a Monday night... have a good err..

Hello Avon

You got me laughing on this one!


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Enjoy, it should be pretty straightforward. :)

Thanks, playing with it right now!


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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
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On 08-06-18 17:02, Havok wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Enjoy, it should be pretty straightforward. :)

Thanks, playing with it right now!

Cool. :)


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On 08/06/18, Vk3jed said the following...

On 08-05-18 10:56, Havok wrote to All <=-

Has anyone made a good bot for throwing ads up in the networks for yo BBS?

Maybe someone can point the way....

mutil is your friend. All you need is the right mutil configuration and
a text file containing your ad.

Are you having any issues with mutil garbling posted ansis? I've had no luck getting ansis to post correctly with mutil. I've adjusted the ansi as much
as I can, and it still garbles the ansi.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Cyberia BBS | cyberiabbs.zapto.org | San Jose, CA (21:1/120)

On 08/13/18, Gryphon pondered and said...

Are you having any issues with mutil garbling posted ansis? I've had no luck getting ansis to post correctly with mutil. I've adjusted the ansi as much as I can, and it still garbles the ansi.

I also have this problem... seems non ANSI is the only way to be sure at present.. Hmmm

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
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This anyone ever used the semi new option... if so give a working example of where on the command line the %R goes... fellow sysop says everything he has tried does not work for him.

<ALPHA 1.12 A39 RELEASED -- April 20, 2018>
+ Door command lines now have %R which will return the user name without
underscores in the name.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
* Origin: flupH | fluph.araknet.xyz (21:1/105)

This anyone ever used the semi new option... if so give a working
example of where on the command line the %R goes... fellow sysop says everything he has tried does not work for him.

<ALPHA 1.12 A39 RELEASED -- April 20, 2018>
+ Door command lines now have %R which will return the user name without
underscores in the name.

I haven't used it personally, but if you want to use it and not have this be seen as two parameters, you will likely have to put quotes around it like

/path/to/door /name="%R" /somethingelse

Hope this makes sense...

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On 10 Jan 2019, StackFault said the following...

+ Door command lines now have %R which will return the user name wit
underscores in the name.

I haven't used it personally, but if you want to use it and not have
this be seen as two parameters, you will likely have to put quotes
around it like

/path/to/door /name="%R" /somethingelse

OK, your example looks like a linux dosemu/mystic example?

I thought it was used in mystic itself for running door command lines..need a Win7 example on where the %R is placed. Below example..

\nf.bat /N%3 /H%0 c:\doors\bre.bat %3 for running a door with a user alias. I'm still not understanding the addition of the %R and where it is to be used.

So to use the %R /name="%R" is needed? I'm still confused about this option, and how to use it.. know matter what OS is being used. It would be helpful if mystic.wiki would fill in the details on using the option in either OS. Or
even adding and example to the whatsnew.txt would be helpful for the newer slower people trying to keep up on new options.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
* Origin: flupH | fluph.araknet.xyz (21:1/105)

+ Door command lines now have %R which will return the user name
underscores in the name.

/path/to/door /name="%R" /somethingelse

OK, your example looks like a linux dosemu/mystic example?

Yes, this was in theory, my example was more to focus on the parameters than the command-line itself. Even my Linux doors are started from a shell script where I pass parameters to, it allows me more flexibility that way.

Like you, I am not sure since the dropfile will have this info already so why not just pick it from there instead of the command-line...

Cheers!

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