OK, so this is a weird one.I'm currently getting my Fidonet feed from three different hubs. I have a zone 1 address. Two of them are in zone 1 and the newest is in zone 2. I have all of them set up in my nodes and also in my mailin.ini as well. I have it set to autocreate new echos, which works fine
for everything as long as I have a matching zone. For the zone 2 hub I do not so this is what I am getting in my log:

+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Process: Importing EchoMail
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Waiting for BUSY nodes
- Sep 30 16:09:12 LINKS:
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 1 1:3634/12@fidonet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 2 57:57/1@gatornet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 3 57:57/8@gatornet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 4 21:1/100@fsxnet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 5 1:3634/24.1@fidonet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 6 11:1/100@wwivftn
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 8 44:100/0@dorenet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 9 46:1/100@agoranet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 10 316:77/1@whispnet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 11 21:2/100@usenet
- Sep 30 16:09:12 Node 12 1:2320/100@fidonet
! Sep 30 16:09:12 Import from c:\mystic\echomail\in\
! Sep 30 16:09:12 Import from c:\mystic\echomail\in\unsecure\
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Importing 57eec525.pkt (2:203/0 to 1:3634/24)
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Netmail from (Reply from) AreaFix to Captain Obvious
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Netmail from (Reply from) AreaFix to Captain Obvious
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Netmail from (Reply from) AreaFix to Captain Obvious
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Netmail from (Reply from) AreaFix to Captain Obvious
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Netmail from (Reply from) AreaFix to Captain Obvious
! Sep 30 16:09:12 Skip unsecure echomail in WWB_Z2
! Sep 30 16:09:12 Skip unsecure echomail in WWB_Z2
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Results: 0 echo, 5 net, 0 dupes, 0 tossed in 0.03s
+ Sep 30 16:09:12 Shutdown Normal (0)

I get the netmail just fine but it's skipping the echoes from zone 2. Any solution to this? Planning on going to D'Bridge and Fmail anyway at some
point anyway but if I have to I'll go ahead and start getting them set up.
Just been a couple of decades since I did any of that and was trying to hold off for a while.

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-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 09/30/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

! Sep 30 16:09:12 Skip unsecure echomail in WWB_Z2
! Sep 30 16:09:12 Skip unsecure echomail in WWB_Z2

What this looks like to me is that you have echomail in your secure inbound
dir (or insecure inbound - not sure) and Mystic will not toss it in as it's from a system you have not configured as an echonode.

Check you mailin.ini and have a look at the following in your
[importechomail] stanza

; Toss packets from unsecure directory in addition to inbound?

unsecure_dir = true

That may get you across the line :)

Best, Paul

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On 10/01/16, Avon said the following...

inbound dir (or insecure inbound - not sure) and Mystic will not toss it in as it's from a system you have not configured as an echonode.

I have 2:203/0 in as a node.

unsecure_dir = true

Yep, it's there. Down below that I have it set to autocreate areas from that node as well. That's what it's not doing.

I'll go ahead and manually add the echo and him as one of the nodes and do a rescan on the area to see what happens.

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-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 10/01/16, Avon said the following...

inbound dir (or insecure inbound - not sure) and Mystic will not toss it in as it's from a system you have not configured as an echonode.

You're right though. Looking at my mutil.log the node never appears in the
list of linked node. Goes up to the first twelve and that's it. He's # 13


4 Yes fsxNet HUB 21:1/100
5 Yes Fido Point 1:3634/24.1
6 Yes WWIVnet-FTN Hub 11:1/100
8 Yes Dorenet Hub 44:100/0
9 Yes Agoranet Hub (Pharcyde) 46:1/100
10 Yes Whispernet Hub 316:77/1
11 Yes Usenet Newsgroups (fsxnet) 21:2/100
12 Yes FW - Allen Prunty 1:2320/100
13 Yes FW - Bjorn Felten 2:203/0

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

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On 09/30/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

You're right though. Looking at my mutil.log the node never appears in
the list of linked node. Goes up to the first twelve and that's it. He's
# 13

Did you restart MIS after you added the echonode for him in your setup?
That will ensure MIS and BinkP etc. are aware of the changes.

Best, Paul

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On 10/01/16, Avon said the following...

Did you restart MIS after you added the echonode for him in your setup? That will ensure MIS and BinkP etc. are aware of the changes.

Yes. Several times now actually since I added him yesterday.

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-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 09/30/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

Yes. Several times now actually since I added him yesterday.

OK so what's the latest? You posted earlier you were manually creating things and linking stuff etc. Are there still probs?

Best, Paul

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On 10/01/16, Avon said the following...

OK so what's the latest? You posted earlier you were manually creating things and linking stuff etc. Are there still probs?

Still the same issue. I've sent an areafix to his system to a much busier
echo to make it easier for me to troubleshoot. Have to leave for work shortly so possibly I will have some more log info to look at this afternoon.

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-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 10/01/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

Still the same issue. I've sent an areafix to his system to a much busier echo to make it easier for me to troubleshoot. Have to leave for work shortly so possibly I will have some more log info to look at this afternoon.

OK have a good day:) I'm off to zzz.. late Sat night over here as I type.
Make sure you have your logging set to level 3 if not already. Chat later.

Best, Paul

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On 10/01/16, Avon said the following...

OK have a good day:) I'm off to zzz.. late Sat night over here as I type. Make sure you have your logging set to level 3 if not already. Chat
later.

Yeah, same thing. I have him set up properly, sent an areafix for FN_SYSOP
and added his node to the echomail exports. I actually have three I'm
exporting it to. 2:203/0 (the one I am having problems with), Allen Prunty's system and my point #. It imports messages just fine from Allen (1:2320/100) but the 2:203 it discards everything as unsecure echomail. I'm thinking at
this point it's because I don't have a zone 2 address. Only thing I can think of at this point. Netmail is processed just fine, just not echomail.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

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On 10/01/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

Allen Prunty's system and my point #. It imports messages just fine from Allen (1:2320/100) but the 2:203 it discards everything as unsecure echomail. I'm thinking at this point it's because I don't have a zone 2

Is he using a packet password and you are not?

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On 10/02/16, Avon said the following...

Is he using a packet password and you are not?

Nope. No packet password. I double checked the pkts to make sure

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-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 10/01/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

three I'm exporting it to. 2:203/0 (the one I am having problems with), Allen Prunty's system and my point #. It imports messages just fine from Allen (1:2320/100) but the 2:203 it discards everything as unsecure echomail. I'm thinking at this point it's because I don't have a zone 2

I thinking at this point it might almost be worth using some packet
inspection tool on one of his packets. Mystic would be treating his packets
as unsecure because it does not recognise them. So it might be he is sending his packets under a different aka to the 2:230/0 you have set him up for? Checking a packet he sends before Mystic processes it would be worth doing. Send me a copy of one via filebox if you like and I can also have a look at
it for you.

Best, Paul

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On 10/03/16, Avon said the following...

set him up for? Checking a packet he sends before Mystic processes it would be worth doing. Send me a copy of one via filebox if you like and
I can also have a look at it for you.

I just set a pkt password so it wouldn't toss next time he crashes mail. I'll check it in the morning.

Really with getting more into the fidoweb model I am going to be setting up Husky so it is becoming less of a deal. Still would be nice to figure out.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 10/02/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

I just set a pkt password so it wouldn't toss next time he crashes mail. I'll check it in the morning.

Thanks, yes it's bugging me to suss what the problem / solution is :)

Really with getting more into the fidoweb model I am going to be setting up Husky so it is becoming less of a deal. Still would be nice to figure out.

Your call... but I agree good to know what it at the root cause of things.

Best, Paul

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On 10/03/16, Avon said the following...

Thanks, yes it's bugging me to suss what the problem / solution is :)

No, I meant I would set it (only on my end) so it would stop the processing. When Mystic ignores the "unsecure area" it's getting rid of the packets.

Anyway, I just sent it. File is called 57f1df2a.old

Your call... but I agree good to know what it at the root cause of
things.

I do as well. I am really starting to think it has to do with the different zones and Mystic not allowing to toss from one zone to the other.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 10/03/16, Avon said the following...

Thanks, yes it's bugging me to suss what the problem / solution is :)

Since I'm already polling you, why don't I set your fido node up here (and
you do the same) and I'll send an areafix for one echo and see what happens?
Or I could export one of mine to you, that might even be better. Pretty sure it's because of the zone gating. See if your end will toss will maybe toss echomail packets from Zone 1 without a Zone 1 address?

Just throwing ideas out there.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

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On 10/03/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

On 10/03/16, Avon said the following...

Thanks, yes it's bugging me to suss what the problem / solution is :)

Since I'm already polling you, why don't I set your fido node up here
(and you do the same) and I'll send an areafix for one echo and see what happens? Or I could export one of mine to you, that might even be
better. Pretty sure it's because of the zone gating. See if your end
will toss will maybe toss echomail packets from Zone 1 without a Zone 1

I was thinking I'd try and import that packet of yours into a dummy system I set up to see if it likes it. But I may not get to the overly soon, just too many projects on the go.

I'm linked to Z1 and Z2 and have no issues. If you want to take a feed of the Fidonet echos from 3:770/1 I'm happy to set you up.

At first blush the packet looks technically ok

Best, Paul

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On 10/04/16, Avon said the following...

I'm linked to Z1 and Z2 and have no issues. If you want to take a feed
of the Fidonet echos from 3:770/1 I'm happy to set you up.

Well damn lol. I'm going to go back to fooling with this and see if I can figure it out then.

I probably will take you up on that as well but am going to continue tackling this first.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 10/03/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

I probably will take you up on that as well but am going to continue tackling this first.

Sure... just flick me a netmail with any session details etc. and I will set you up.

Best, Paul

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On 10/04/16, Avon said the following...

I was thinking I'd try and import that packet of yours into a dummy
system I set up to see if it likes it. But I may not get to the overly

I set up Fmail just to see and it tosses to the area just fine.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
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On 10/03/16, Captain Obvious pondered and said...

I set up Fmail just to see and it tosses to the area just fine.

Interesting. I wish g00r00 was back as he would be interested in that packet
:)

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