• Prealphas

    From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Saturday, November 25, 2017 16:15:50
    Updated the prealphas for 11/25 at 4pm EST (for Linux and Windows no Pi or OSX).

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/25 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Nugax@21:1/107 to All on Saturday, November 25, 2017 15:43:31
    Does this have the NNTP stuff we were discussing?

    On 10:15 25/11 , g00r00 wrote:
    Updated the prealphas for 11/25 at 4pm EST (for Linux and Windows no Pi or >OSX).

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/25 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)


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    --- Mystic BBS/NNTP v1.12 A36 2017/11/21 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: -=The ByteXchange BBS : bbs.thebytexchange.com=- (21:1/107)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Nugax on Saturday, November 25, 2017 18:24:53
    Does this have the NNTP stuff we were discussing?

    It has a fix for the creating of new message bases (or I hope it does).

    I do not know whether or not that is a factor in your specific problem, but I am hoping it is!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/25 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Nugax@21:1/107 to All on Saturday, November 25, 2017 18:15:52
    Will that affect current message bases? I assume we won't have to recreate?

    On 12:24 25/11 , g00r00 wrote:
    Does this have the NNTP stuff we were discussing?

    It has a fix for the creating of new message bases (or I hope it does).

    I do not know whether or not that is a factor in your specific problem, but I >am hoping it is!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/25 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)


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    --- Mystic BBS/NNTP v1.12 A36 2017/11/21 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: -=The ByteXchange BBS : bbs.thebytexchange.com=- (21:1/107)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Nugax on Saturday, November 25, 2017 19:50:15
    Will that affect current message bases? I assume we won't have to recreate?

    No, I just fixed a bug it doesn't mean you have to do anything but upgrade.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/25 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Monday, November 27, 2017 16:07:54
    Have been updated for 11/27

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/27 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From pequito@21:1/126 to g00r00 on Monday, November 27, 2017 15:33:40
    On 11/27/17, g00r00 said the following...

    Have been updated for 11/27

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/27 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

    Grabbed and on this one now, eager to see how the new event pops!

    Did notice this with the FTP:
    + 15:31:14 FTP Cannot resolve IPV6 domain, using: 2601:08C0:4280:1C81:020C:29FF:FE10:ADC3

    instead of the interface being :: should I add my external ipv6 address?

    Thanks/Cheers!
    Pequito

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/27 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: Twinkle BBS # (21:1/126)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to pequito on Monday, November 27, 2017 17:47:47
    Did notice this with the FTP:
    + 15:31:14 FTP Cannot resolve IPV6 domain, using: 2601:08C0:4280:1C81:020C:29FF:FE10:ADC3

    instead of the interface being :: should I add my external ipv6 address?

    It is resolving the BBS domain you have configured to get its external IP (unrelated to your network interface). The FTP server needs this in order to perform passive file transfers.

    Is the message there showing your external IP or your network interface?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/27 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From pequito@21:1/126 to g00r00 on Monday, November 27, 2017 16:06:43
    On 11/27/17, g00r00 said the following...

    Did notice this with the FTP:
    + 15:31:14 FTP Cannot resolve IPV6 domain, using: 2601:08C0:4280:1C81:020C:29FF:FE10:ADC3

    instead of the interface being :: should I add my external ipv6 addre

    It is resolving the BBS domain you have configured to get its external IP (unrelated to your network interface). The FTP server needs this in
    order to perform passive file transfers.

    Is the message there showing your external IP or your network interface?

    Here is the log entries:

    ---------- Mystic v1.12 A36 2017/11/27 Mon, Nov 27 2017 (loglevel 3)
    + 15:31:14 MANAGER Starting event system
    + 15:31:14 MANAGER Starting 5 server(s)
    + 15:31:14 NNTP Listening on IPV6 port 119 using interface "::"
    + 15:31:14 FTP Data port range 60000 to 60007
    + 15:31:14 FTP Listening on IPV6 port 21 using interface "::"
    + 15:31:14 FTP Resolving domain: twinklebbs.net
    + 15:31:14 BINKP Listening on IPV6 port 24554 using interface "::"
    + 15:31:14 SSH Listening on IPV6 port 22 using interface "::"
    + 15:31:14 TELNET Listening on IPV6 port 23 using interface "::"
    + 15:31:14 FTP Cannot resolve IPV6 domain, using: 2601:08C0:4280:1C81:020C:29FF:FE10:ADC3
    + 15:31:15 EVENT Starting 6 event(s)

    Tried this both on ipv4 and ipv6 with the same results.

    Thanks/Cheers!
    Pequito

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/27 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: {twinklebbs.net} # (21:1/126)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:45:33
    On 11/27/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

    Have been updated for 11/27


    I know what I'm doing tonight :)

    And I *still* need to watch that last episode of Season 2 Stranger Things..

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to pequito on Monday, November 27, 2017 22:52:31
    Here is the log entries:
    + 15:31:14 FTP Cannot resolve IPV6 domain, using: 2601:08C0:4280:1C81:020C:29FF:FE10:ADC3

    Its just a display bug that I just fixed!

    It is resolving your IP correctly and printing the proper IPV6 address!

    False alarm :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/27 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From pequito@21:1/126 to g00r00 on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 01:01:13
    On 11/27/17, g00r00 said the following...

    Here is the log entries:
    + 15:31:14 FTP Cannot resolve IPV6 domain, using: 2601:08C0:4280:1C81:020C:29FF:FE10:ADC3

    Its just a display bug that I just fixed!

    It is resolving your IP correctly and printing the proper IPV6 address!

    False alarm :)


    Ty g00r00!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/27 (Linux/32)
    * Origin: Twinkle BBS # (21:1/126)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:57:33
    I've updated the prealpas for Windows and Linux. This should rollback the
    new feature in the last prealpha where the console flat out doesn't work in Linux. :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/29 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Thursday, November 30, 2017 23:41:15
    Just updated the pre-alphas again. This has a bunch of extra SSL error logging, the old MIS is completely gone, some other minor changes here and there.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/30 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Friday, December 01, 2017 19:56:31

    On 11/30/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

    Just updated the pre-alphas again. This has a bunch of extra SSL error logging, the old MIS is completely gone, some other minor changes here
    and there.


    + MIS2 now has the SMTP server from MIS. The old MIS has now been removed
    from the BBS and can no longer be used. MIS2 has been renamed to MIS.

    Just change the ansi on the old MIS2 as it still references MIS2 in the
    syntax guidelines.... HUB is now updated :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)
  • From dream master@21:1/163 to g00r00 on Friday, December 01, 2017 00:26:56
    On 11/30/17, g00r00 said the following...
    Just updated the pre-alphas again. This has a bunch of extra SSL error logging, the old MIS is completely gone, some other minor changes here
    and there.

    i can see the sbbs people getting jealous hehe

    |08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
    |08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
    |11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/30 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)
  • From Hawk Hubbard@21:1/188 to Avon on Friday, December 01, 2017 08:21:58
    Just change the ansi on the old MIS2 as it still references MIS2 in the

    Avon - What is the filename of that ANSI?

    ²ß±ß° {tHE.pIRATE.kING} ÜßÛßÜ
    ß²Ü°ß HOIST THE COLOURS ßÛÜÛß
    þþþ NEVER SHALL WE DIE. ÝÝÞ

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: ACiD Underworld // Victor Ludorum (21:1/188)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Friday, December 01, 2017 12:45:00
    Just change the ansi on the old MIS2 as it still references MIS2 in the syntax guidelines.... HUB is now updated :)

    Good catch! Fixed!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A36 2017/11/30 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 17:20:45
    I've updated the pre-alphas today for those brave souls who wish to test the cutting edge. Only the Windows and Intel Linux version have been updated but if I cannot get a full A37 ready by Jan 1st I plan to at least update all of the pre-alphas for all platforms.

    I removed the eventsignal.txt for you Unix folks since it hasn't appeared to be particularly useful in debugging. Added in a few new things that I've been working on off and on for a while: new config themes, full blown text and ANSI editors (ansi editor may be a bit quirky), echomail security is done from a configuration standpoint, can't remember what else.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Thursday, December 28, 2017 11:58:50
    On 12/27/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I've updated the pre-alphas today for those brave souls who wish to test the cutting edge. Only the Windows and Intel Linux version have been

    Doing this now :)

    quirky), echomail security is done from a configuration standpoint,

    Can I start to implement this now for the HUBs or should I hold off?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/23 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Wednesday, December 27, 2017 18:49:14
    quirky), echomail security is done from a configuration standpoint,

    Can I start to implement this now for the HUBs or should I hold off?

    You can do the configuration, yes. There are no EACS fields yet to apply the security because I still have to determine what I plan to do. I also have to update some data files as well.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A37 2017/12/27 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Monday, March 26, 2018 14:43:45
    I will be doing another upgrade of prealphas in the next hour or so I hope.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/03/26 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From SirRonmit@21:2/120 to g00r00 on Tuesday, March 27, 2018 16:45:40
    I will be doing another upgrade of prealphas in the next hour or so I hope.

    I'd be more than happy to run a Alpha test on my virtual when it is ready.

    Tim N.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/02/06 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Sunday, April 01, 2018 17:42:16
    I just updated the prealphas on mysticbbs.com.

    This should fix the semaphore issue reported, and the issue with the I* menu commands.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/01 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Monday, April 02, 2018 10:14:00
    On 04/01/18, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I just updated the prealphas on mysticbbs.com.

    This should fix the semaphore issue reported, and the issue with the I* menu commands.

    I've just been testing v1.12 A39 Windows/32 Compiled 2018/04/01 00:53:24 (so prior I think to your next release mentioned above)

    I can confirm the events system will now trigger on echomail.in again and
    also hold off running until after fidopoll.bsy is removed from the semaphore directory.

    I noted that if I had fidopoll forced running to create the .bsy semaphore
    then sent in a packet via BinkP to create a echomail.in semaphore the events system did not change it's status from 'waiting' to 'run next'

    But perhaps I misunderstood the docs in how that status label is applied by
    the events system?

    I'm also wondering about the best way to process incoming traffic as I currently have a shell command set to run mutil then fidopoll send each time echomail.in arrives. But the fidopoll does take time as it's chugging through 90+ nodes sequentially.. so if I had mutil running everytime echomail.in arrived and fidopoll send only running on a timed basis that *may* speed up flow of packets around the network?

    You know how we've just been testing the following

    [snip]

    Event Type: Semaphore
    Semaphore: (echomail.in|netmail.in)!fidopoll.bsy
    Kill After: echomail.in|netmail.in

    The above example says to trigger the event if echomail.in OR netmail.in
    exists but NOT if fidopoll.bsy exists. The result would be that the
    command line would run when there is incoming net/echomail but it'd also
    wait for fidopoll to finish running (if it is) before kicking off.

    [snip]

    Is this a preferred way to run processing? Is it just another way to negate some of the .BSY and fidopoll hangups we've been encountering in the past?

    I'm just trying to figure out the best way(s) to apply the new boolean
    logic of semaphore files that must exist (or not) to trigger an event.

    Best, Paul

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/01 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Monday, April 02, 2018 10:15:46
    On 04/01/18, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I just updated the prealphas on mysticbbs.com.

    This should fix the semaphore issue reported, and the issue with the I* menu commands.

    Also copied to mystic.bbs.nz in http://mystic.bbs.nz/files/alpha/pre/

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/01 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 22:14:25
    I will be updating the prealphas shorting after Midnight my time (April 11).

    TIC bug fixed, some more socket bugs fixed.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/08 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Saturday, April 14, 2018 22:21:06
    The 4/14 updates are up. I would suggest anyone whose running pre-alphas to upgrade to this version.

    I was finally able to reproduce a crash issue in Linux and it was fixed. I just did a 200 node BBS with 200 active nodes at all times all the way up through 140,000 connections with no issues... so this change should hopefully make a big difference.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/14 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 03:17:01
    Updated! :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From dream master@21:1/163 to g00r00 on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 04:18:36
    On 04/18/18, g00r00 said the following...
    Updated! :)

    whatsnew for changes? ;)

    |08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
    |08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
    |11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/16 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)
  • From dream master@21:1/163 to g00r00 on Thursday, April 19, 2018 04:26:11
    On 04/18/18, g00r00 said the following...
    Updated! :)

    i downloaded it but it's showing timestamp of 2018-04-16.

    |08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
    |08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
    |11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/16 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)
  • From Havok@21:4/119 to dream master on Thursday, April 19, 2018 08:48:28
    i downloaded it but it's showing timestamp of 2018-04-16.

    Same here, updated this morning 2018-04-16


    Havok

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/16 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: After Hours|The Villages,FL|afterhours-bbs.com:23 (21:4/119)
  • From dream master@21:1/163 to Havok on Friday, April 20, 2018 13:16:14
    On 04/19/18, Havok said the following...
    i downloaded it but it's showing timestamp of 2018-04-16.
    Same here, updated this morning 2018-04-16

    ok good i cleared cache to see if that was it...

    |08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
    |08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
    |11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/16 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)
  • From g00r00@21:1/112 to All on Saturday, December 15, 2018 18:49:07
    Updated after the weekend of work. This version has the new encrypted BINKP option, so please be aware for people like Avon who run networks that the
    BINKP server and FIDOPOLL have had changes.

    I will be gone for a few days so I won't be able to address issues until I am back on Tuesday. Hopefully what is up there now won't cause any issues.

    Very pleased to have encrypted sessions now for BINKP! :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From garycrunk@21:4/126 to g00r00 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 16:01:49
    You Rock!
    Just sayin'

    ---=[ Gary Crunk ]=---
    Another F-ing BBS : anotherbbs.ddns.net Port 23
    Quazar BBS Door Game Server: quazarbbs.ddns.net Port 2323

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: New Mystic BBS (21:4/126)
  • From NuSkooler@21:1/121 to g00r00 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 20:01:03

    On Saturday, December 15th g00r00 muttered...
    Very pleased to have encrypted sessions now for BINKP! :)

    This sounds awesome. I may have to actually write a Bink protocol support for Enig at some point so I can do this as well. I'd love to drop all plain text protocols.


    --- ENiGMA 1/2 v0.0.9-alpha (linux; x64; 10.13.0)
    * Origin: Xibalba -+- xibalba.l33t.codes:44510 (21:1/121)
  • From vk3jed@21:1/109.1 to NuSkooler on Sunday, December 16, 2018 05:17:23
    On 16-Dec-2018 06:01, NuSkooler wrote to g00r00 <=-


    On Saturday, December 15th g00r00 muttered...
    Very pleased to have encrypted sessions now for BINKP! :)

    This sounds awesome. I may have to actually write a Bink protocol
    support for Enig at some point so I can do this as well. I'd love to
    drop all plain text protocols.

    Would be good to have the specs opened up, so all binkp implementations can make use of encrypted sessions.


    ... The best audience is intelligent, well-educated and a little drunk.
    --- MultiMail/Win
    * Origin: Bush Track BBS (21:1/109.1)
  • From Michael Borthwick@21:4/132 to vk3jed on Sunday, December 16, 2018 16:29:28
    Very pleased to have encrypted sessions now for BINKP! :)

    Don't forget to email ScoMo the encryption key so he can read all of our traffic.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Fusion BBS ~ Newcastle, Australia (21:4/132)
  • From g00r00@21:1/112 to NuSkooler on Sunday, December 16, 2018 09:33:37
    This sounds awesome. I may have to actually write a Bink protocol
    support for Enig at some point so I can do this as well. I'd love to
    drop all plain text protocols.

    Well if you do and I don't have the TLS extension documented let me know and I can help you make sure its compatible.

    The frustrating thing with implementing BINKP was how finicky a couple older implementations are, such as IREX and some of the Argus line of mailers alongside MBSE. I don't remember all of the details but just don't test only with BINKD and then expect it to actually work with others. That was a
    mistake I made.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From g00r00@21:1/112 to vk3jed on Sunday, December 16, 2018 09:34:43
    Would be good to have the specs opened up, so all binkp implementations can make use of encrypted sessions.

    Yep, I will try to get it into BINKD or at least accepted by them as the way they would implement it when they finally do.

    I think if BINKD has it then pretty much everyone would accept it as the standard way to do things.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From g00r00@21:1/112 to All on Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:06:19
    Okay final pre-alpha release with password upgrade fix is on the site.

    So if you are using prealphas and are not on Dec 16 at 11am build then you should upgrade and rerun your users.dat as described in WHATSNEW

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Monday, December 17, 2018 10:28:00
    On 12-16-18 08:34, g00r00 wrote to vk3jed <=-

    Would be good to have the specs opened up, so all binkp implementations can make use of encrypted sessions.

    Yep, I will try to get it into BINKD or at least accepted by them as
    the way they would implement it when they finally do.

    That would be awesome. And would mean all 3 of my systems would implement encryption at that point (1 Mystic, 2 binkd).

    I think if BINKD has it then pretty much everyone would accept it as
    the standard way to do things.

    It would certainly add a lot of weight to the cause.


    ... Uncertainty: Finding your wife reading your Will.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)
  • From g00r00@21:1/112 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 22:17:56
    That would be awesome. And would mean all 3 of my systems would
    implement encryption at that point (1 Mystic, 2 binkd).

    Mystic's implementation is a solid encryption. What BINKD does if I am not mistaken isn't all that great.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From g00r00@21:1/112 to All on Saturday, December 22, 2018 23:21:45
    I've updated prealphas to include OSX and Pi now.

    These are close to the A40 release so please test if you are interested, and let me know of any bugs or suggestions. I'd like to release A40 on XMAS or
    New Years assuming I do not hear anything back from people.

    My BBS is not up so I am relying on the feedback of others for this release.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, December 23, 2018 23:10:26
    On 12/22/18, g00r00 pondered and said...

    These are close to the A40 release so please test if you are interested, and let me know of any bugs or suggestions. I'd like to release A40 on XMAS or New Years assuming I do not hear anything back from people.

    Now running v1.12 A40 Windows/32 Compiled 2018/12/22 21:52:28

    [snip]

    + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-R: NUL ZYZ Paul Hayton
    + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-SysOp Paul Hayton
    + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-S: NUL SYS Agency BBS
    + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-S: NUL ZYZ Avon
    + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-S: NUL TIME Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:59:53 1300
    + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-S: NUL VER Mystic/1.12A40 binkp/1.0
    + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-S: ADR 46:3/203@agoranet 39:970/1@amiganet 3:770/100@fidonet 21:1/101@fsxnet 44:100/14@dorenet

    [snip]

    Thanks for adding the time info to BinkP server. It will come in handy.

    Just setting up a test version of this pre-alpha and testing things with Al today/tomorrow.

    Just sent some secured netmail that was encrypted. leaving my test system it was all good :) the packet was unreadable and the session between our two systems was secure.

    I wonder if the logs should show when something is encrypted as it is
    exported?

    ----------------- MUTIL v1.12 A40 2018/12/22 Sun, Dec 23 2018 (loglevel 3)
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Startup using mailout.ini
    - Dec 23 21:54:13 EXEC ExportEchoMail
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Process: Exporting EchoMail
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Waiting for BUSY nodes
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Scanning...
    - Dec 23 21:54:13 LINKS:
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Resuming from 2 in fsx_gen
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Resuming from 2 in nmail
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Export #2 to 22:4/106@fsxnet
    - Dec 23 21:54:13 1 msgs from Netmail
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Adding PKT "c:\mystic112a40test\echomail\out\primary\0e2dd77d.pkt" to FLO c:\mystic112a40test\echomail\out\primary\0004006a.clo
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Results: 0 echo, 1 net, 0 skipped in 0.05s
    + Dec 23 21:54:13 Shutdown Normal (0)

    We'll keep playing :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/22 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/112 to Avon on Sunday, December 23, 2018 11:55:16
    + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-S: NUL TIME Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:59:53 1300 + 2018.12.23 21:59:53 BINKP 1-S: NUL VER Mystic/1.12A40 binkp/1.0

    You're welcome, it was only a quick add that only took a few minutes so certainly not a big deal and if it helps you pinpoint issues then it was a no brainer!

    Just setting up a test version of this pre-alpha and testing things with Al today/tomorrow.

    Just sent some secured netmail that was encrypted. leaving my test
    system it was all good :) the packet was unreadable and the session between our two systems was secure.

    Awesome, thank you and thank Al too. I don't know if he reads here.

    I wonder if the logs should show when something is encrypted as it is exported?

    I think I had that message in there and I must have removed it. I can add it back. Or maybe I only have/had the message when it decrypts. Either way,
    I'll double check and make sure all of them have a message that says its encrypting and decrypting.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Monday, December 24, 2018 09:36:06
    On 12/23/18, g00r00 pondered and said...

    You're welcome, it was only a quick add that only took a few minutes so certainly not a big deal and if it helps you pinpoint issues then it was
    a no brainer!

    Yep it does, as you say something quite easy in the scheme of things but it
    can make a difference when you're trying to nail down an issue with a node somewhere else in the globe. Thanks :)

    Awesome, thank you and thank Al too. I don't know if he reads here.

    I think we're finding a few things.. :)

    Either way, I'll double check and make sure all of them have a message that says its encrypting and decrypting.

    Yep I think that's a good move. logging should show that process occurring IMHO. Thanks.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/22 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Al@22:4/106 to g00r00 on Sunday, December 23, 2018 15:51:32
    Awesome, thank you and thank Al too. I don't know if he reads here.

    Everyday.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/23 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: New Name Coming Soon - Penticton, BC Canada (22:4/106)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Al on Monday, December 24, 2018 11:58:42
    Awesome, thank you and thank Al too. I don't know if he reads here.

    Everyday.. :)

    Ahh okay well thank you for testing with Avon! :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A40 2018/12/23 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Sunday, December 30, 2018 14:11:43
    I've updated the pre-alpha releases.

    All 4 versions on the site have been compiled in 3.0.2 now so its probably worth upgrading to this if you are are A40 or later. Minor changes to BINKP but I still have a list of things to look into that I haven't yet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From dream master@21:1/163 to g00r00 on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 14:25:40
    On 12/30/18, g00r00 said the following...
    I've updated the pre-alpha releases.
    changes to BINKP but I still have a list of things to look into that I haven't yet.

    when you get a chance check out the templates i made for the http server

    http://bbs.dreamlandbbs.org/ above the counter you will see links. i made some mpl to do some cgi type online things have not gotten them all 100%

    |08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
    |08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
    |11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic
    |08[|15bbs|09.|15dreamlandbbs|09.|15org|08]

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS bbs.dreamlandbbs.org (21:1/163)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 18:40:55
    I've updated the prealphas. This has some better logging for the CRC issue that people in Linux seem to be experiencing.

    If someone wouldn't mind, please enable CRC checking again and see if it
    works. If it doesn't please paste in the log showing the CRC values.

    I've also added in an Export_FileBONE.NA function.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/25 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Thursday, January 31, 2019 13:41:14
    On 30 Jan 2019, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I've updated the prealphas. This has some better logging for the CRC issue that people in Linux seem to be experiencing.

    If someone wouldn't mind, please enable CRC checking again and see if it works. If it doesn't please paste in the log showing the CRC values.

    Many thanks, will aim to update tonight / tomorrow :)

    Best, Paul

    --- E:avon@bbs.nz ------ W:bbs.nz ---
    --- K:keybase.io/avon --------------

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 21:01:49
    On 30 Jan 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    I've updated the prealphas. This has some better logging for the CRC issue that people in Linux seem to be experiencing.

    I've got it installed here.

    If someone wouldn't mind, please enable CRC checking again and see if it works. If it doesn't please paste in the log showing the CRC values.

    CRC checking is enabled. Just waiting for some files to come in... :)


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/30 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From dream master@21:1/163 to g00r00 on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 20:27:46
    On 01/30/19, g00r00 said the following...
    I've updated the prealphas. This has some better logging for the CRC issue that people in Linux seem to be experiencing.

    i need to get caught up now that i am back online

    |08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
    |08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
    |11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic
    |08[|15bbs|09.|15dreamlandbbs|09.|15org|08]

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS bbs.dreamlandbbs.org (21:1/163)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Black Panther on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 23:20:02
    If someone wouldn't mind, please enable CRC checking again and see if works. If it doesn't please paste in the log showing the CRC values.

    CRC checking is enabled. Just waiting for some files to come in... :)

    Great and thank you for testing. I am not really expecting it to work but I did make a change a few weeks back as you noted earlier. If it fails it
    should at least print more information about the CRC values.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/25 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Thursday, January 31, 2019 18:29:23
    On 30 Jan 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    CRC checking is enabled. Just waiting for some files to come in... :)

    Great and thank you for testing. I am not really expecting it to work
    but I did make a change a few weeks back as you noted earlier. If it fails it should at least print more information about the CRC values.

    Hi g00r00,

    I'm not sure if this is related or not, but I had a file come in last night, that got sent to the badfiles directory. mutil.log is showing:

    + Jan 30 19:03:25 Bad file size; Moved to /home/dan/mystic/echomail/in/badfiles/

    According to the .tic file, the size is:

    Size 16904

    And, according to Ubuntu, the actual file size is 16.9kB(19604 bytes).

    As I said, I'm not sure if it's related or not, but just wanted to let you
    know what I found. :)


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/30 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Black Panther on Thursday, January 31, 2019 22:22:53
    + Jan 30 19:03:25 Bad file size; Moved to /home/dan/mystic/echomail/in/badfiles/

    According to the .tic file, the size is:

    Size 16904

    And, according to Ubuntu, the actual file size is 16.9kB(19604 bytes).

    As I said, I'm not sure if it's related or not, but just wanted to let
    you know what I found. :)

    Well thats not a step in the right direction lol. Okay thanks for letting me know. If you happen to see anything go through or a CRC error please let me know.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/31 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Friday, February 01, 2019 16:55:57
    On 31 Jan 2019, g00r00 pondered and said...

    Well thats not a step in the right direction lol. Okay thanks for
    letting me know. If you happen to see anything go through or a CRC
    error please let me know.

    I can try and test this further over the next 1-2 days also.

    Dan have you moved to the latest A42?

    I'll be able to check later when home but just want to ensure we're all on
    the same build when we test stuff.

    Best, Paul

    --- E:avon@bbs.nz ------ W:bbs.nz ---
    --- K:keybase.io/avon --------------

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Thursday, January 31, 2019 21:25:33
    On 31 Jan 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    As I said, I'm not sure if it's related or not, but just wanted to le you know what I found. :)

    Well thats not a step in the right direction lol. Okay thanks for
    letting me know. If you happen to see anything go through or a CRC
    error please let me know.

    I'm keeping my eyes peeled... :) (You know, that really sounds painful as
    it's typed out...) ;)


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/30 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Thursday, January 31, 2019 21:27:56
    On 01 Feb 2019, Avon said the following...

    Dan have you moved to the latest A42?

    Downloading as I type... ;)

    Should be up and running in a few minutes...


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/30 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Thursday, January 31, 2019 22:48:15
    On 31 Jan 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    Well thats not a step in the right direction lol. Okay thanks for
    letting me know. If you happen to see anything go through or a CRC
    error please let me know.

    Alright. The Hub 4 system (Win/32) and 4/137 (Win/32) have updated to the
    most recent pre-alpha release of A42. 4/137 also had reset the crc checking
    to true.

    I just re-hatched out the current fsxNet infopack and nodelist to net 4. The infopack (fsxinfo.zip) was sent with the replace verb, while the nodelist (fsxnet.z32) was not.

    Both files were received by the node, and processed as expected. The nodelist was flagged as a dupe file, while the infopack was processed normally.

    + Jan 31 21:05:10 File fsxinfo.zip Area FSX_INFO From 21:4/100
    - Jan 31 21:05:10 Replace "fsxinfo.zip"
    + Jan 31 21:05:10 Replacing fsxinfo.zip
    + Jan 31 21:05:10 Added to fsxNet Info

    No crc errors... :)


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/30 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Thursday, January 31, 2019 23:14:15
    On 31 Jan 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    Well thats not a step in the right direction lol. Okay thanks for
    letting me know. If you happen to see anything go through or a CRC
    error please let me know.

    Well, with the most recent pre-alpha installed on here, I copied the .tic
    file back into the inbound directory, to try tossing that file again.

    This time it tossed perfectly.

    I'm not sure what you changed, but now your going in the right direction. :)


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/31 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Black Panther on Friday, February 01, 2019 07:51:42
    I'm keeping my eyes peeled... :) (You know, that really sounds painful as it's typed out...) ;)

    Ouch yeah it does. I actually pictured like one of those old potato peelers too for some reason which makes it even worse.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/31 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Black Panther on Friday, February 01, 2019 07:53:19
    I just re-hatched out the current fsxNet infopack and nodelist to net 4. The infopack (fsxinfo.zip) was sent with the replace verb, while the nodelist (fsxnet.z32) was not.

    + Jan 31 21:05:10 File fsxinfo.zip Area FSX_INFO From 21:4/100
    - Jan 31 21:05:10 Replace "fsxinfo.zip"
    + Jan 31 21:05:10 Replacing fsxinfo.zip
    + Jan 31 21:05:10 Added to fsxNet Info

    No crc errors... :)

    Great!

    Hopefully that means I fixed it up. Assuming it was fixed the problem was that I was using a mixture of 32-bit and 64-bit integers and it didn't like that.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/31 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Friday, February 01, 2019 16:57:15
    On 01 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    I'm keeping my eyes peeled... :) (You know, that really sounds painfu it's typed out...) ;)

    Ouch yeah it does. I actually pictured like one of those old potato peelers too for some reason which makes it even worse.

    That really did make it worse... I'm gonna have nightmares now... :)

    Maybe they should put that into the next Hellraiser movie. What are they up
    to now, Hellraiser 27? :)


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/31 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Friday, February 01, 2019 16:59:50
    On 01 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    Hopefully that means I fixed it up. Assuming it was fixed the problem
    was that I was using a mixture of 32-bit and 64-bit integers and it
    didn't like that.

    So far it's looking good. I'll continue to monitor both Castle Rock and the
    Hub 4 systems. (Linux/64 & Win/32)


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/31 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 14:03:48
    Updated the pre-alphas, this just has updates to Mystic-DOS which is done except for a few larger but non-crucial commands. A few commands haven't been tested and almost none of it has been tested on the Unix-based systems yet only in Windows.

    DREAM MASTER! Go update to this if you want to test Mystic-DOS and User to
    User split screen chat! Don't forget to copy userchat.* into your TEXT directory though! :)

    www.mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/02/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to g00r00 on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 13:20:25
    On 06 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    Updated the pre-alphas, this just has updates to Mystic-DOS which is done except for a few larger but non-crucial commands. A few commands
    haven't been tested and almost none of it has been tested on the Unix-based systems yet only in Windows.

    DREAM MASTER! Go update to this if you want to test Mystic-DOS and User
    to User split screen chat! Don't forget to copy userchat.* into your
    TEXT directory though! :)

    Upgraded, the spit screen still has an issue where I can not see what I am typing till I hit enter.

    Cheers!

    |15:|07: |15pequito |08<|07<|14.|11PH|15EN|11OM|14.|07>|08> |07:|15: |15:|07: |02telnet://|10twinklebbs.net |07:|15:

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Twinkle BBS # (21:1/126)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Pequito on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 15:56:44
    Upgraded, the spit screen still has an issue where I can not see what I
    am typing till I hit enter.

    Okay I tested this in Windows and it works but in a local Linux login I see
    the same problem. I will investigate thank you

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/02/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 16:02:22
    I am planning another one or two updates (just did one now) of the prealphas
    as I work out the kinks for DOS and chat so keep an eye on the FTP site later tonight if you want to get the latest version. :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/02/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to g00r00 on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 16:17:52
    I am planning another one or two updates (just did one now) of the prealphas as I work out the kinks for DOS and chat so keep an eye on the FTP site later tonight if you want to get the latest version. :)

    Well I lied... It took me like 15 minutes to fix the chat bug in Linux :)

    So prealphas have been updated again and that will probably be it for a
    couple of days as I have a ton of real life work to do. I think I've mostly finished Mystic DOS and worked out bugs in chat and DOS now.

    Based on feedback I plan to work on hatching and bringing in some changes to the menu system from Mystic 2.0 that allows me to implement the "terminal_info" menu from Mystic 2.0. I'll use that then to implement the terminal detection stuff from Mystic 2.0 also.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/02/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Cmech@21:2/117 to G00r00 on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 15:20:50
    * An ongoing debate between g00r00 and All rages on ...

    Updated the pre-alphas, this just has updates to Mystic-DOS which is

    Pardon the ignorance {chuckle} but what exactly is Mystic-DOS and how do you use it? Started out with MS-DOS 2.1 in the mid 1980's and have always favored DOS over the rest. :)


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    * Origin: FSXNet - Positronium: telnet://cmech.dynip.com (21:2/117)
  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to g00r00 on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 15:14:13
    On 06 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    Upgraded, the spit screen still has an issue where I can not see what am typing till I hit enter.

    Okay I tested this in Windows and it works but in a local Linux login I see the same problem. I will investigate thank you

    Thank you g00r00!

    |15:|07: |15pequito |08<|07<|14.|11PH|15EN|11OM|14.|07>|08> |07:|15: |15:|07: |02telnet://|10twinklebbs.net |07:|15:

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Twinkle BBS # (21:1/126)
  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to g00r00 on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 15:23:25
    On 06 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    I am planning another one or two updates (just did one now) of the prealphas as I work out the kinks for DOS and chat so keep an eye on FTP site later tonight if you want to get the latest version. :)

    Well I lied... It took me like 15 minutes to fix the chat bug in Linux :)

    So prealphas have been updated again and that will probably be it for a couple of days as I have a ton of real life work to do. I think I've mostly finished Mystic DOS and worked out bugs in chat and DOS now.

    Got it and the user to user now I can see it type when I type live! Thank
    you so much g00r00!

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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Twinkle BBS # (21:1/126)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Pequito on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 18:00:14
    Got it and the user to user now I can see it type when I type live!
    Thank you so much g00r00!

    I ended up doing one more update after that because I stumbled on a Python
    bug too, so I had to fix that up.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Pequito on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 18:03:50
    Got it and the user to user now I can see it type when I type live!
    Thank you so much g00r00!

    Awesome. It was just about the easiest bug to fix ever lol. Glad to have it working. I didn't know how much I needed that split screen chat until I had it!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Cmech on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 18:06:22
    Pardon the ignorance {chuckle} but what exactly is Mystic-DOS and how do you use it? Started out with MS-DOS 2.1 in the mid 1980's and have
    always favored DOS over the rest. :)

    Its just a shell that allows you to manage files, and do other BBS stuff from it like edit text and ANSI, chat with users, run python or mpl, zip/unzip files, etc. Its just a menu command you can run and its now on the SysOp menu by default as of the latest prealpha.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Cmech@21:2/117 to G00r00 on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 18:55:41
    * An ongoing debate between g00r00 and Cmech rages on ...

    Pardon the ignorance {chuckle} but what exactly is Mystic-DOS and
    Its just a shell that allows you to manage files, and do other BBS
    stuff from it like edit text and ANSI, chat with users, run python or
    mpl, zip/unzip files, etc. Its just a menu command you can run and
    its now on the SysOp menu by default as of the latest prealpha.

    Very nice! You might enhance the VER command to show platform/date/time like "Mystic -ver" does :) The short version (or the long one if room!) it now shows

    would be great on the MIS screen Title after BBS name :)

    Can't wait for Exec command {chuckle} will I be able to call a native windows program with it?


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Cmech on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 21:11:31
    Can't wait for Exec command {chuckle} will I be able to call a native windows program with it?

    No, you won't be able to use native Windows apps. I am not even sure if there will be an exec command. I know its listed but its just an idea right now :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Friday, February 15, 2019 05:30:59
    I just updated the prealphas again for Intel Linux and Windows.

    This has a few bug fixes (I didn't get to look into everything on my list
    yet) and adds a few echomail related features.

    Keep in mind this also has the new file moving code so we'll see how that
    goes. I am about to upgrade my own Linux BBS.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/08 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to g00r00 on Friday, February 15, 2019 08:28:14
    On 15 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    I just updated the prealphas again for Intel Linux and Windows.

    This has a few bug fixes (I didn't get to look into everything on my list yet) and adds a few echomail related features.

    Keep in mind this also has the new file moving code so we'll see how that goes. I am about to upgrade my own Linux BBS.

    Checked these out and wow, loving these. =D
    v1.12 A43 Linux/64 Compiled 2019/02/15 01:03:07

    |15:|07: |15pequito |08<|07<|14.|11PH|15EN|11OM|14.|07>|08> |07:|15: |15:|07: |02telnet://|10twinklebbs.net |07:|15:

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Twinkle BBS # (21:1/126)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Pequito on Friday, February 15, 2019 13:48:28
    Checked these out and wow, loving these. =D
    v1.12 A43 Linux/64 Compiled 2019/02/15 01:03:07

    Awesome, let me know if you have any issues. I haven't got through my list yet but I did address some of them in this build.

    It seems like those /U Unsub commands in the msg/file base editors are broken on my BBS but work on my test BBS, so I have to look into that.

    This idea of putting Mystic on a remote Linux machine and modding/configuring it via nothing but Telnet and Mystic has been really fun. Its causing me to get off my butt and finish a bunch of ideas I've had like Mystic-DOS, those Echomail functions, encrypted Netmail, etc.

    The only time I cheat has been to deploy new alphas or install OS patches. My new challenge is to build a way to make Mystic update itself so I never have to use anything other than Mystic-DOS to do upgrades.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to g00r00 on Friday, February 15, 2019 19:23:38
    patches. My new challenge is to build a way to make Mystic update itself so I never have to use anything other than Mystic-DOS to do upgrades.

    Now THAT will be an awesome idea! A menu command for a SysOp to run and it performs an update automagically.

    |14Best regards,
    |11Ch|03rist|11ia|15n |11a|03ka |11Me|03aTLoT|11io|15N

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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/10 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Quantum Wormhole, Ramsgate, UK. bbs.erb.pw (21:1/158)
  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to g00r00 on Friday, February 15, 2019 13:28:48
    On 15 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    Checked these out and wow, loving these. =D
    v1.12 A43 Linux/64 Compiled 2019/02/15 01:03:07

    Awesome, let me know if you have any issues. I haven't got through my list yet but I did address some of them in this build.

    Will do, so far things seem to be working good. I will re-check unsub from
    the config. =D

    This idea of putting Mystic on a remote Linux machine and modding/configuring it via nothing but Telnet and Mystic has been really fun. Its causing me to get off my butt and finish a bunch of ideas I've had like Mystic-DOS, those Echomail functions, encrypted Netmail, etc.

    heh glad to hear it, I have had so much more fun using linux vs windows to
    run mystic. I did start out using windows back in 2015 but moved to linux in 2017 and been loving it since.

    The only time I cheat has been to deploy new alphas or install OS
    patches. My new challenge is to build a way to make Mystic update itself so I never have to use anything other than Mystic-DOS to do upgrades.

    heh I normally have to wait for no one to be on or just be eager and kick em
    so can do the update. =P

    |15:|07: |15pequito |08<|07<|14.|11PH|15EN|11OM|14.|07>|08> |07:|15: |15:|07: |02telnet://|10twinklebbs.net |07:|15:

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Twinkle BBS # (21:1/126)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to MeaTLoTioN on Friday, February 15, 2019 17:47:27
    Now THAT will be an awesome idea! A menu command for a SysOp to run and
    it performs an update automagically.

    Nah, its just a small .sh file that looks to see if the update is in a folder on the drive and if so it runs "./install replace /mystic" to copy over the new binaries. The idea is to copy the files into that folder and the run a "DOOR ./mis shutdown" which should kick me off, copy over the new binaries, and restart itself.

    I can already recompile MPL programs and deploy any new files in a release by just executing "DOOR ./mplc -all" or "DOOR ./install extract userchat* /mystic" for example using Mystic-DOS. I just can't replace the MIS and Mystic binaries while they're running, so that part I will script.

    On that note though:

    I did try to do a fully automated update in the past. I needed to do the theme change first because there are various issues with prompts and custom themes if updating were to be automated fully. Too many people complained about my directory revamp that was designed to make this much much easier, so it never happened.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From deon@21:2/116.1 to g00r00 on Saturday, February 16, 2019 01:29:47
    On 15 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...
    patches. My new challenge is to build a way to make Mystic update itself so I never have to use anything other than Mystic-DOS to do upgrades.

    You know what I think would be cool - if you made Mystic a docker container (and I'm happy to help you with that). You may recall that I run it in a container, and a part from the cross device issues (which I know you are on to), it runs well.

    If you update Mystic and it detects that data files need to be updated too
    (and does them, like via your "upgrade" command), then everything is super easy.

    Docker also lets you "get onto the console" if you need to (docker attach),
    but otherwise, I do everything remote. You can jump inside the container with "docker exec .. /bin/bash"

    And, if you went down a docker path, you would change your "support" from supporting different OS's to just supporting Linux on different architectures (Pi and Intel mostly I guess). Docker's pretty stable now on different OSes.

    For others, docker is available for most OS's and its easy to use (well I use it daily on a Mac, Linux Intel and Linux ARM. Cant speak for Windows though, but I imagine it works well there too.

    I also have CI build environments for ARM and Intel, so everytime you commit, it could autobuild a new container :)

    Anyway, just ideas...

    ...deon

    _--_|\ | Deon George
    / \ | Chinwag BBS - A BBS on a PI in Docker!
    \_.__.*/ |
    V | Coming from the 'burbs of Melbourne, Australia

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/27 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Chinwag | MysticBBS in Docker on a Pi! (21:2/116.1)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Saturday, February 16, 2019 12:53:00
    On 02-15-19 12:48, g00r00 wrote to Pequito <=-

    The only time I cheat has been to deploy new alphas or install OS
    patches. My new challenge is to build a way to make Mystic update
    itself so I never have to use anything other than Mystic-DOS to do upgrades.

    If you pull that off, it would be impressive!


    ... Hey! This is just like the REAL world!
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    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to deon on Friday, February 15, 2019 21:03:25
    You know what I think would be cool - if you made Mystic a docker container (and I'm happy to help you with that). You may recall that I

    And, if you went down a docker path, you would change your "support" from supporting different OS's to just supporting Linux on different architectures (Pi and Intel mostly I guess). Docker's pretty stable now

    I don't think I would ever make Mystic docker-only but I certainly don't mind developing features that will help it run better in Docker, if someone else (you?) wanted to maintain an unofficial docker build.

    To be honest I am not too familiar with the platform other than having a basic idea of it what it is, so it'd be something I would need to spend some more time with.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Vk3jed on Friday, February 15, 2019 21:05:35
    The only time I cheat has been to deploy new alphas or install OS patches. My new challenge is to build a way to make Mystic update itself so I never have to use anything other than Mystic-DOS to do upgrades.

    If you pull that off, it would be impressive!

    I don't think it should take more than a couple lines of a shell script, but we'll see! Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Saturday, February 16, 2019 15:41:41
    On 15 Feb 2019 at 08:03p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I don't think I would ever make Mystic docker-only but I certainly don't mind developing features that will help it run better in Docker, if someone else (you?) wanted to maintain an unofficial docker build.

    Deon loves docker so I'd suggest he'd be great for helping with that aspect :)

    To be honest I am not too familiar with the platform other than having a basic idea of it what it is, so it'd be something I would need to spend some more time with.

    You and me both. Does anyone have a spare 24 hours they want to give away for free??

    Best, Paul

    --- E:avon@bbs.nz ------ W:bbs.nz ---
    --- K:keybase.io/avon --------------

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/10 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Friday, February 15, 2019 20:00:44
    On 15 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    but we'll see! Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend!

    If you get a chance in the near future. Perhaps you could take a look at
    Mystic creating the filebox directory. As soon as you tell Mystic to create
    it, Mystic will crash. It happens in the Win/32 version. I haven't tried it
    on the Linux version in awhile, so I'm unsure...

    Thank you. :)


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/08 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Friday, February 15, 2019 21:36:49
    On 15 Feb 2019, Black Panther said the following...

    If you get a chance in the near future. Perhaps you could take a look at Mystic creating the filebox directory. As soon as you tell Mystic to create it, Mystic will crash. It happens in the Win/32 version. I
    haven't tried it on the Linux version in awhile, so I'm unsure...

    Nevermind... I just set up a new node on the Win/32 system, and didn't have
    any issues... Sorry about that...


    ---

    Black Panther(RCS)
    a.k.a. Dan Richter
    Sysop - Castle Rock BBS
    telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
    http://www.castlerockbbs.com
    The sparrows are flying again....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/08 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Castle Rock BBS - bbs.castlerockbbs.com (21:1/186)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Saturday, February 16, 2019 15:27:00
    On 02-15-19 20:05, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    If you pull that off, it would be impressive!

    I don't think it should take more than a couple lines of a shell
    script, but we'll see! Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend!

    I can see this going one of 2 ways. Either it'll be dead simple or "famous last words!" :D


    ... I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar.
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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Black Panther on Saturday, February 16, 2019 15:36:00
    On 02-15-19 19:00, Black Panther wrote to g00r00 <=-

    On 15 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    but we'll see! Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend!

    If you get a chance in the near future. Perhaps you could take a look
    at Mystic creating the filebox directory. As soon as you tell Mystic to create it, Mystic will crash. It happens in the Win/32 version. I
    haven't tried it on the Linux version in awhile, so I'm unsure...

    Thank you. :)

    I've seen this error on the Pi. It only happens when attempting to create the automatically named default filebox. If I manually specify a path for the filebox, it gets created fine by Mystic.


    ... AAcckk!! II''mm iinn hhaallff dduupplleexx
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    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)
  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to g00r00 on Saturday, February 16, 2019 07:57:55
    Hey g00r00,

    Nah, its just a small .sh file that looks to see if the update is in a folder on the drive and if so it runs "./install replace /mystic" to
    copy over the new binaries. The idea is to copy the files into that folder and the run a "DOOR ./mis shutdown" which should kick me off,
    copy over the new binaries, and restart itself.

    Well that's still pretty slick, that'd be super useful.


    I can already recompile MPL programs and deploy any new files in a
    release by just executing "DOOR ./mplc -all" or "DOOR ./install extract userchat* /mystic" for example using Mystic-DOS. I just can't replace
    the MIS and Mystic binaries while they're running, so that part I will script.

    Again very useful to know, this is great information.

    On that note though:

    I did try to do a fully automated update in the past. I needed to do
    the theme change first because there are various issues with prompts and custom themes if updating were to be automated fully. Too many people complained about my directory revamp that was designed to make this much much easier, so it never happened.

    Yeah the small modification to the theme / prompts weren't too bad for me seeing as I don't really have much customised yet in that respect, however I could see that being a pain for others... and to automate it would be tricky. Shame people complained about the directory revamp, it sounded like a logical step forward to me.

    |14Best regards,
    |11Ch|03rist|11ia|15n |11a|03ka |11Me|03aTLoT|11io|15N

    |07ÄÄ |08[|10eml|08] |15ml@erb.pw |07ÄÄ |08[|10web|08] |15www.erb.pw |07ÄÄÄ¿ |07ÄÄ |08[|09fsx|08] |1521:1/158 |07ÄÄ |08[|11tqw|08] |151337:1/101 |07ÂÄÄÙ |07ÄÄ |08[|12rtn|08] |1580:774/81 |07ÄÄ |08[|14fdn|08] |152:250/5 |07ÄÄÄÙ

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/10 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Quantum Wormhole, Ramsgate, UK. bbs.erb.pw (21:1/158)
  • From deon@21:2/116.1 to g00r00 on Saturday, February 16, 2019 11:30:34
    On 15 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...
    I don't think I would ever make Mystic docker-only but I certainly don't mind developing features that will help it run better in Docker, if someone else (you?) wanted to maintain an unofficial docker build.

    Awesome :)

    My first request, can you make the install unattended? Or as an alternative, how do I get the install files out of the package (and pre-configure mystic.dat)?

    With docker, there are 3 types of files:
    * Applications - they can be installed in the normal locations (/opt,
    /usr/bin, etc - and mystic is fine in /mystic).
    * Temporary working space files - which you have configured to go to a <install_path>/temp... folder. I think its OK that they stay in the container
    - as it doesnt matter if they are lost as a result of a container destruction/invocation
    * Data - Ultimately, this needs to end up outside the container (for persistance) and its easier if its is prefixed by one path. I use
    /mystic/data. So /mystic and /mystic/* is inside the container, except /mystic/data which is outside. In OS terms, its another block device. (Hence
    my cross block device issues that you've been working on.)

    So, back to my first request, if I can do "install <bin_path> <data_path>" (unattended), so that when mystic starts for the first time, it know data is
    in "data_path", (which I would have as /mystic/data).

    (It might be useful to have a "temp_path" as well - I would probably have
    that as a tmpfs/ramdisk, and that might be useful for non-docker users too - especially those using a SD card device like a Pi :)

    Hope this makes sense.

    ...deon

    _--_|\ | Deon George
    / \ | Chinwag BBS - A BBS on a PI in Docker!
    \_.__.*/ |
    V | Coming from the 'burbs of Melbourne, Australia

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/27 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Chinwag | MysticBBS in Docker on a Pi! (21:2/116.1)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Saturday, February 16, 2019 14:52:27
    You and me both. Does anyone have a spare 24 hours they want to give
    away for free??

    Exactly!

    I woke up today (Saturday for me) with work I still need to finish from the previous week. Then I go downstairs to get a drink and I am immediately asked to do chores. By the time I get the work done and the chores done and something to eat etc 2/3rds of my "day off" will be gone.

    And I don't even have kids. I don't know how you do it!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Black Panther on Saturday, February 16, 2019 14:54:53
    If you get a chance in the near future. Perhaps you could take a look at Mystic creating the filebox directory. As soon as you tell Mystic to create it, Mystic will crash. It happens in the Win/32 version. I
    haven't tried it on the Linux version in awhile, so I'm unsure...

    Seems to be working fine for me (tested A43 in Win32).

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Black Panther on Saturday, February 16, 2019 14:56:05
    Nevermind... I just set up a new node on the Win/32 system, and didn't have any issues... Sorry about that...

    Of course I went to test it before I read the next message :P

    I think I noticed that on my own a bit ago and fixed it up. Or maybe you or someone else reported it. But I vaguely remember working on it. Maybe? I don't know but its working so good enough!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Vk3jed on Saturday, February 16, 2019 15:04:10
    I don't think it should take more than a couple lines of a shell script, but we'll see! Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend!

    I can see this going one of 2 ways. Either it'll be dead simple or "famous last words!" :D

    You're completely right lol

    I still haven't tried it, so we'll see! The good thing about this little experiment I am doing is that if I can't get it working, I change Mystic so I can!

    I haven't even gotten far into the installation yet and I've already been making so many changes. I was just using the text editor and had a need to jump to a line number. Thats a stopping point. Time for that idea to come off of my TODO list so I can finish editing that text file!

    At this rate I'll have this version of my BBS done by 2030 but we'll have
    tons of new stuff!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/02/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to MeaTLoTioN on Saturday, February 16, 2019 15:12:42
    I can already recompile MPL programs and deploy any new files in a release by just executing "DOOR ./mplc -all" or "DOOR ./install extra userchat* /mystic" for example using Mystic-DOS. I just can't replac the MIS and Mystic binaries while they're running, so that part I wil script.

    Again very useful to know, this is great information.

    Maybe what I will do is write up a little document on how I did my setup and put it on the Wiki if people want to do full remote maintenance without a shell account or anything else.

    Yeah the small modification to the theme / prompts weren't too bad for me seeing as I don't really have much customised yet in that respect,
    however I could see that being a pain for others... and to automate it would be tricky. Shame people complained about the directory revamp, it sounded like a logical step forward to me.

    Well, some of it was a little more than just the themes and I think that was most of the complaints (not really the themes themselves).

    For example, I want to remove the msgpath setting for each individual message base so they'll all be stored in one directory. This really seemed to bother people, even after I pointed out that they don't seem to care that their Synchronet BBS doesn't allow them to put individual msg bases different locations and that Mystic itself doesn't allow it for file bases.

    I want to change the "TEMP" directories so that they're all created under a root TEMP directory which can be defined but this might cause people who set up doors to point directly to temp directories for drop files to have to go in and change their command lines (if they use the MCI code to the path to the door files they'll be fine though).

    The themes would have a root Themes directory that is configurable and then each theme would have its own directory. The directories can inherit everything from another theme and you can just drag and drop in a theme and it will automatically install. Each theme would contain data for only what was changed from the default install, so when something changes Mystic can update the defaults only.

    All of this stuff was in the Mystic 2.0 demo I released a few years back, but people voted to have me continue on 1.0 instead of working on that too lol

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to deon on Saturday, February 16, 2019 15:16:09
    My first request, can you make the install unattended? Or as an alternative, how do I get the install files out of the package (and pre-configure mystic.dat)?

    There is no unattended initial installation, so that is something I will have to build for you. What you've proposed seems fine.

    There are already some utilities that I've already mentioned but it sounds like it may not be all that useful for what you need:

    install replace <path> - This replaces all the Mystic binaries in <path> with
    the newer binaries in the package.

    install extract <mask> [path] - This extracts "mask" from the install package
    to the current directory or to [path] if it is
    defined ie "extract userchat* /mystic"

    (It might be useful to have a "temp_path" as well - I would probably have that as a tmpfs/ramdisk, and that might be useful for non-docker users
    too - especially those using a SD card device like a Pi :)

    I really really really want to do this (and the entire directory revamp), so
    in order for this to happen we may be forcing people to change their door configurations.

    * Data - Ultimately, this needs to end up outside the container (for persistance) and its easier if its is prefixed by one path. I use /mystic/data. So /mystic and /mystic/* is inside the container, except /mystic/data which is outside. In OS terms, its another block device. (Hence my cross block device issues that you've been working on.)

    Okay so question then about text files, menus, and scripts. Would those need to be stored outside of Mystic as well assuming people were going to make
    heavy changes from the defaults?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 13:06:59
    On 16 Feb 2019 at 01:52p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I woke up today (Saturday for me) with work I still need to finish from the previous week. Then I go downstairs to get a drink and I am immediately asked to do chores. By the time I get the work done and the chores done and something to eat etc 2/3rds of my "day off" will be gone.

    And I don't even have kids. I don't know how you do it!

    The secret is - don't go downstairs :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 00:16:17
    All of this stuff was in the Mystic 2.0 demo I released a few years
    back, but people voted to have me continue on 1.0 instead of working on that too lol

    Ahh, well all of what you said about the directories I think is great. root temp and root themes folders makes total sense and I can see the advantages.

    I don't have enough thumbs to give you as many up votes as I'd like!
    Sterling work, much appreciated by me and many many others.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Saturday, February 16, 2019 20:59:23
    The secret is - don't go downstairs :)

    Haha yep that was probably where I went wrong.

    Chores done (I was bad a decided to read some BBS messages first so I got a late start) now I have to do real work before I can do more play work (Mystic)

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  • From Ktulu@21:2/122 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 00:20:18
    patches. My new challenge is to build a way to make Mystic update itself so I never have to use anything other than Mystic-DOS to do upgrades.

    THIS would be great, g00r00! Thank you.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 18:02:00
    On 02-16-19 14:04, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You're completely right lol

    I might not write code, but I've been around computers long enough to know how things go. :)

    I still haven't tried it, so we'll see! The good thing about this
    little experiment I am doing is that if I can't get it working, I
    change Mystic so I can!

    Haha kinda cheating, but sometimes you gotta cheat to make things work. ;)

    I haven't even gotten far into the installation yet and I've already
    been making so many changes. I was just using the text editor and had
    a need to jump to a line number. Thats a stopping point. Time for
    that idea to come off of my TODO list so I can finish editing that text file!

    Haha always something! :D

    At this rate I'll have this version of my BBS done by 2030 but we'll
    have tons of new stuff!

    LOL it'll be worth the wait. I'll still be here in 2030 I suspect (in my early 60s by then ;) ).


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 18:09:00
    On 02-16-19 13:52, g00r00 wrote to Avon <=-

    I woke up today (Saturday for me) with work I still need to finish from the previous week. Then I go downstairs to get a drink and I am immediately asked to do chores. By the time I get the work done and
    the chores done and something to eat etc 2/3rds of my "day off" will be gone.

    Haha and obviously you aren't able to convince the powers that be that BBSing is more important. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Sunday, February 17, 2019 18:10:00
    On 02-17-19 12:06, Avon wrote to g00r00 <=-

    The secret is - don't go downstairs :)

    LOL clever! :D


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Sunday, February 17, 2019 20:34:41
    On 17 Feb 2019 at 05:10p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    The secret is - don't go downstairs :)

    LOL clever! :D

    only if you can suss how to get food in without anyone noticing :) Hah

    Best, Paul

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  • From toofargone@21:4/132 to Avon on Sunday, February 17, 2019 19:16:28
    only if you can suss how to get food in without anyone noticing :)
    Hah

    Any decent sneak would have his computer drawers/wardrobe filled with
    emergency rations for just this very occasion.

    Soft drinks / bottled water for the thirst, chips, cookies, chocolates
    for the snacks..



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  • From Xenos@21:4/147 to Avon on Sunday, February 17, 2019 16:22:17
    RE: Re: Prealphas
    BY: Avon(21:1/101)

    On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 06:34 PM, Avon(21:1/101) wrote:

    On 17 Feb 2019 at 05:10p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    The secret is - don't go downstairs :)

    LOL clever! :D

    only if you can suss how to get food in without anyone noticing :) Hah

    can't he use FTP (food transport protocol)? :D

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  • From deon@21:2/116.1 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 13:58:52
    On 16 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...
    There are already some utilities that I've already mentioned but it
    sounds like it may not be all that useful for what you need:

    While building a docker container (which represents an "installed applications"), naturally I can move stuff around as part of the install. The hard part is configuring mystic.dat (since its a binary file), so that when it starts, it knows where everything is (and that is what install does
    initially, but its interactive).

    So yes, if the installer can be unattended, so that when you say install foo
    to "x", it updates mystic.dat as appropriate (themes, echomail areas, etc). :)

    I really really really want to do this (and the entire directory
    revamp), so in order for this to happen we may be forcing people to
    change their door configurations.

    So, I agree this is a solution - and the fix to those who dont adopt this
    is symlinks :) Alternatively, if temp directory locations can be overwritten
    by a config item or an environment var ?

    Okay so question then about text files, menus, and scripts. Would those need to be stored outside of Mystic as well assuming people were going
    to make heavy changes from the defaults?

    OK, in reality "custom" items should be outside the container (with the persistent storage). "Defaults" (which the themes fall back to when there
    isnt a custom file - could be inside the container.

    However, at the moment, I have it all outside, (/mystic/data/custom_theme and
    ) because

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  • From deon@21:2/116.1 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 14:03:02
    On 17 Feb 2019, deon said the following...
    However, at the moment, I have it all outside,
    (/mystic/data/custom_theme and ) because

    Dont you hate it when you fingers go at a different rate to your thoughts,
    and then you realise that somehow you pressed "send" when you werent finished!

    So, following on, I have it all outside (/mystic/data/custom_theme) and (/mystic/data/menus, etc) because it was a simplier way to setup mystic and
    the container.

    I dont think it matters either way, eg: folks might want to copy the default theme and modify it, and having it also outside makes it easier to do that
    from the host.

    ...deon

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to deon on Sunday, February 17, 2019 09:36:21
    While building a docker container (which represents an "installed applications"), naturally I can move stuff around as part of the
    install. The hard part is configuring mystic.dat (since its a binary file), so that when it starts, it knows where everything is (and that is what install does initially, but its interactive).

    If I do the directory revamp, I may also do the relative paths that were also in the 2.0 demo and that will eliminate this issue, but I will do the automated install for now at the very least.

    In the 2.0 demo you can rename the root Mystic directory and everything still works with no configuration changes. You can copy it to a different drive and everything still works. You can even copy it from Windows to Linux and then later to OSX to Pi and everything still works without any configuration change.

    I was shocked when people were really against me bringing this into Mystic 1

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  • From deon@21:2/116.1 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 23:21:06
    On 17 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...
    If I do the directory revamp, I may also do the relative paths that were also in the 2.0 demo and that will eliminate this issue, but I will do
    the automated install for now at the very least.

    I havent seen this infamouse v2.0 demo. I'm a little surprised also that folks are against (or rather didnt want to a adopt it).

    For me, I like moving forward - next versions of stuff often represent new innovation, and while new innovation means change (and effort), Im always
    keen to look and adopt (even if it takes me a little while to get there). (Otherwise, I'd still have dialup :)

    Folks could always stay on v1 release if they wanted to - the "standards" are in the protocols used ( although I have to be careful where I use that word on fidonet networks :P )

    ...deon

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 17, 2019 19:47:14
    g00r00 wrote to Black Panther <=-

    Nevermind... I just set up a new node on the Win/32 system, and didn't have any issues... Sorry about that...

    Of course I went to test it before I read the next message :P

    I think I noticed that on my own a bit ago and fixed it up. Or maybe
    you or someone else reported it. But I vaguely remember working on it.
    Maybe? I don't know but its working so good enough!

    I know we were talking about it awhile back, but the last time I added a node, it still crashed. I guess I should have tried it again before sending off a message... <smacks forhead>



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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to deon on Sunday, February 17, 2019 21:01:05
    I havent seen this infamouse v2.0 demo. I'm a little surprised also that folks are against (or rather didnt want to a adopt it).

    At the time it was vastly different than Mystic 1.0 in a lot of ways, and featured things like IPV6, SSH, RLOGIN and the ability to spawn as many instances of each server type as you wanted among many many other things.

    Much of the stuff from Mystic 2.0 has since been backported into Mystic 1.0 but there is still a bit missing. The MIS server in 1.0 is really the server from Mystic 2.0.

    There isn't really much to see these days but I'll put it up in the prealpha directory on the website (windows only). There is a README in there that discusses many of the changes that were in the demo at the time.

    The only things to see now are probably the drag and drop theme system and directory structure as those I still want to bring back into 1.0.

    Folks could always stay on v1 release if they wanted to - the
    "standards" are in the protocols used ( although I have to be careful where I use that word on fidonet networks :P )

    I think some people are just inherently afraid of change. There was only a million things to gain by continuing with 2.0 but people just didn't want it. There was no reason for me to continue if people weren't going to use it.

    The biggest thing I remember people being upset about was that you couldn't change the message base directory per message base but there was good reason for why I did that. Even after I pointed out that most other popular BBS software doesn't allow it either, it didn't matter.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Monday, February 18, 2019 11:42:00
    On 02-17-19 19:34, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    only if you can suss how to get food in without anyone noticing :) Hah

    Engage cloak.

    Engage Ninja mode.

    :D


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Monday, February 18, 2019 18:14:00
    On 02-17-19 08:36, g00r00 wrote to deon <=-

    In the 2.0 demo you can rename the root Mystic directory and everything still works with no configuration changes. You can copy it to a
    different drive and everything still works. You can even copy it from Windows to Linux and then later to OSX to Pi and everything still works without any configuration change.

    I was shocked when people were really against me bringing this into
    Mystic 1

    I don't remember this discussion, though I do recall the 2.0 demo (have a copy installed on this Windows PC actually). I personally would support this change to paths, it just makes things so much easier.


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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Avon on Monday, February 18, 2019 15:38:23
    You and me both. Does anyone have a spare 24 hours they want to give
    away for free??

    Well, I just got back from the States, picking up an extra 14 hours along the way. You can have those if I can figure out how to email them.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Vk3jed on Monday, February 18, 2019 08:15:05
    I don't remember this discussion, though I do recall the 2.0 demo (have
    a copy installed on this Windows PC actually). I personally would
    support this change to paths, it just makes things so much easier.

    There was a pretty substantial back and forth about the paths. It might have been that I was put off by all the resistance I was getting so I picked up 2.0 again which would make sense... but I can't quite remember the exact order of events.

    I had a 2.0 demo back around 2003 too which was also voted down by the alpha team at the time. I seem to produce once about every 10 years or so that never goes anywhere. Next one is currently due in the 2023-2025 range so stay tuned! lol

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to g00r00 on Tuesday, February 19, 2019 07:59:00
    On 02-18-19 07:15, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    There was a pretty substantial back and forth about the paths. It

    I have vague recollections, but my vote would be for simplicity. I know when I script things, I make my paths relative from a base directory, where possible. I have no tolerance for fiddly work, so where I can get away with changing one variable instead of 6, I will! Even better when I can have a system that can detect its own configuration (has happened occasionally under specific conditions).

    might have been that I was put off by all the resistance I was getting
    so I picked up 2.0 again which would make sense... but I can't quite remember the exact order of events.

    Understandable. I certainly liked the last 2.0 demo when I played with it on here. As you say, many of the features have been backported to 1.12 alphas.

    I had a 2.0 demo back around 2003 too which was also voted down by the alpha team at the time. I seem to produce once about every 10 years or
    so that never goes anywhere. Next one is currently due in the
    2023-2025 range so stay tuned! lol

    LOL I'll keep an eye out! :D


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  • From Michael2@21:2/145 to g00r00 on Tuesday, February 19, 2019 07:54:26
    was wondering if the events section has been fixed?

    I run ./mis -server, and have noticed that mystic is
    ignoring my echomail.in event - it should run "z"
    which runs mutil, then updates my ip
    but all it runs is "mutil" ???

    Michael2

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Michael2 on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 06:47:16
    was wondering if the events section has been fixed?

    I run ./mis -server, and have noticed that mystic is
    ignoring my echomail.in event - it should run "z"
    which runs mutil, then updates my ip
    but all it runs is "mutil" ???

    I've been running events for years no problems, and there are no reported issues at the moment although I am using the "default" events or all my echomail processing.

    Can you post your event so we can take a look?

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Sunday, February 24, 2019 00:36:23
    Updated prealphas for all platforms. Should fix menu settings

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  • From CyntaxX@21:4/113 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 24, 2019 10:07:04
    On 23 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...

    Updated prealphas for all platforms. Should fix menu settings

    Confirmed fixed.

    Thanks.

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  • From Michael2@21:2/145 to g00r00 on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 08:18:07
    On 20 Feb 2019, g00r00 said the following...
    was wondering if the events section has been fixed?
    I run ./mis -server, and have noticed that mystic is
    ignoring my echomail.in event - it should run "z"
    which runs mutil, then updates my ip
    but all it runs is "mutil" ???

    I've been running events for years no problems, and there are no reported issues at the moment although I am using the "default" events or all my echomail processing.

    Can you post your event so we can take a look?


    sorry it took so long to get back to you.. I just scrolled back and saw your message

    it is just the "Toss incomming echomail, I change it to run my script, and at somepoint, mystic re-verts back to the original entry??

    should I shutdown mis after changing the event?? if so, how about adding a prompt to remind us that we need to restart the server or daemon ???

    event is supposed to look like this

    Active Yes
    Description Toss incoming echomail
    Exec Type Semaphore
    Exec Hour 0
    Exec Min 0
    Shell z
    Semaphore echomail.in|netmail.in
    Kill After echomail.in|netmail.in
    Warning 0
    Days All

    also, I accidently put a path in filebox dir for my fsxnet uplink, and can
    not clear the path, (it leaves a "/")

    Michael2

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Michael2 on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 13:26:37
    it is just the "Toss incomming echomail, I change it to run my script,
    and at somepoint, mystic re-verts back to the original entry??

    should I shutdown mis after changing the event?? if so, how about adding
    a prompt to remind us that we need to restart the server or daemon ???

    Okay that is what is happening. If you have the event system running and then you make changes to the events while its running, the event changes will be overwritten by MIS when they execute.

    So shutdown MIS and then make the event changes and it should stop happening.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/120 to All on Monday, January 20, 2020 19:06:16
    I am updating the prealphas again tonight with some more work on themes and a bunch of bugfixes (hopefully). I also uncommented the echonode stat saving
    (or the start of it anyway) so please make a backup just in case something
    goes wrong if you decide to upgrade.

    To upgrade from previous prealpha just replace all your .exe files you can do that with "install replace c:\mystic\"

    $c mci code, blank prompts crashing, seenby, pkt header, 2020 date, smtp not sending ehlo after SSL step up and so on.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | cyberiabbs.zapto.org | San Jose, CA (21:1/120)
  • From lemonlime@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 16:23:12
    $c mci code, blank prompts crashing, seenby, pkt header, 2020 date, smtp not sending ehlo after SSL step up and so on.


    Awesome, thanks g00r00! I hate to add another one to the list, but would it
    be possible to remove the SMTP username/password character limits? AWS auto-generates some really long username and password combos for their SMTP services.

    Cheers,
    Mike

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 20:24:01
    On 20 Jan 2020 at 07:06p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    To upgrade from previous prealpha just replace all your .exe files you
    can do that with "install replace c:\mystic\"

    Just a heads up for the win32 test build I have been starting to update this feature does not work as directed and just fires up the main install UI menu.

    I noted the installer reports as

    Mystic BBS Installation Utility Version 1.10 A53
    Copyright (C) 1997-2014 By James Coyle. All Rights Reserved.

    So wondering if you packaged the right installer with this windows build?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From ryan@21:1/168 to g00r00 on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 09:25:55
    To upgrade from previous prealpha just replace all your .exe files you
    can do that with "install replace c:\mystic\"

    Hey g00r00, I volunteer to do any linux upgrade testing if you like. Feel
    free to email me separately - ryanfantus@gmail.com - I'm happy to be the
    linux guinea pig as needed. :)

    Presumably replacing the binaries with the new ones is all that would be required here as well?

    Also, FYI, I have some systemd scripts for automating some Mystic stuff. Let
    me know if you'd like to get a look at those, perhaps for placing in the wiki or docs.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A44 2020/01/16 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: monterey bbs (21:1/168)
  • From g00r00@21:1/163 to ryan on Friday, January 24, 2020 11:33:00
    Hey g00r00, I volunteer to do any linux upgrade testing if you like. Feel free to email me separately - ryanfantus@gmail.com - I'm happy to be the linux guinea pig as needed. :)

    Presumably replacing the binaries with the new ones is all that would be required here as well?

    Yeah just replacing the executables should be enough when going between pre-alpha versions. I never really make changes that require new upgrade instructions if I can help it so that things are less confusing.

    Also, FYI, I have some systemd scripts for automating some Mystic stuff. Let me know if you'd like to get a look at those, perhaps for placing in the wiki or docs.

    I would like to sometime, but honestly I don't know when I would get to it. Avon has access to the Wiki and has done a good job with content and updates
    so if you want to get something included on the Wiki maybe he could help test your scripts and put them up in the meantime.

    If not, I'd love to take a look I just don't know when I will for sure.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS bbs.dreamlandbbs.org (21:1/163)
  • From g00r00@21:1/120 to lemonlime on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 08:02:49
    Awesome, thanks g00r00! I hate to add another one to the list, but would it be possible to remove the SMTP username/password character limits? AWS auto-generates some really long username and password combos for their SMTP services.

    Yeah we can get that expanded. Its probably limited to what it is because I didn't want to change the data file formats. Worst case it will have to wait until A45 since I already sent out the A44 upgrade but maybe I can figure something out.

    Any idea on how long they are?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | cyberiabbs.zapto.org | San Jose, CA (21:1/120)
  • From g00r00@21:1/120 to Avon on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 08:22:25
    To upgrade from previous prealpha just replace all your .exe files yo can do that with "install replace c:\mystic\"

    Just a heads up for the win32 test build I have been starting to update this feature does not work as directed and just fires up the main
    install UI menu.

    Are you sure you don't have the wrong version? A copy of install.exe in a
    path somewhere or something?

    Mystic BBS Installation Utility Version 1.10 A53
    Copyright (C) 1997-2014 By James Coyle. All Rights Reserved.

    The version I download says 1.12 A44

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Cyberia BBS | cyberiabbs.zapto.org | San Jose, CA (21:1/120)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Friday, February 14, 2020 16:32:14
    I am updating the pre-alphas right now. Fixes and only minor changes.

    Still looking to release an A45 bugfix within the next week before I start adding/breaking more stuff.

    So if you know of anything not working in A45 please let me know! Or if you already told me and its not addressed yet please tell me again because I may have forgot.

    Keep in mind A45 will just be a simply copy over so anything that would involve record changes (like enabling log rolling configuration for MIS, etc) or something that would cause it not to be a simple copy-over will be A46.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/14 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Saturday, February 15, 2020 19:51:32
    I am updating prealphas with some fixes and changes including several to BINKP that I would appreciate getting tested. They will be up in about 5 minutes
    or less.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/15 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 16, 2020 14:35:48
    On 15 Feb 2020 at 07:51p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I am updating prealphas with some fixes and changes including several to BINKP that I would appreciate getting tested. They will be up in about
    5 minutes or less.

    I will update NET 1 in the coming hour or so. Just need to collect a teenager from the movies in 30 mins :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A44 2020/02/04 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 16, 2020 14:38:58
    On 15 Feb 2020 at 07:51p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I am updating prealphas with some fixes and changes including several to BINKP that I would appreciate getting tested. They will be up in about
    5 minutes or less.

    Just checking is it build v1.12 A45 Windows/32 Compiled 2020/02/15 20:28:45 ??

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A44 2020/02/04 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Saturday, February 15, 2020 21:19:13
    I am updating prealphas with some fixes and changes including several BINKP that I would appreciate getting tested. They will be up in abo 5 minutes or less.

    Just checking is it build v1.12 A45 Windows/32 Compiled 2020/02/15 20:28:45 ??

    Yes I think that is it

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/15 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to g00r00 on Sunday, February 16, 2020 00:51:30
    I am updating prealphas with some fixes and changes including several to BINKP that I would appreciate getting tested. They will be up in about

    Just got a copy of it. Will be doing the back up & install it over like
    normal.

    Thanks again for the update.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/09 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: ACME BBS-I am Wile E Ki-oh-tay, super genius (21:2/147)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Sunday, March 01, 2020 12:39:44
    I am updating the Prealphas today it should be done in a few minutes.

    This update will have some changes to the new MIS POLL to fix display errors and to introduce some other statistical tracking.

    The MUTIL [EchoMailTracker] is enabled but if you decide to try it please be very careful because it has not had a good run through of testing yet. I
    will be setting up some test cases for these features soon.

    I would love assistance if someone wants to try it, but I recognize this is mostly for HUBs where they may not want to risk restoring if something doesn't work.

    At the very least MIS POLL seems stable and complete though in this build.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 01, 2020 20:15:50
    On 01 Mar 2020 at 12:39p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I am updating the Prealphas today it should be done in a few minutes.

    applied this to 1/100

    This update will have some changes to the new MIS POLL to fix display errors and to introduce some other statistical tracking.

    The updated display looks cool and very busy. I'll try and grab a screen shot of it here.

    20:14:11 2-SysOp Night Stalker
    20:14:11 2-Info TIME Sun, 01 Mar 2020 02:14:12 -0500
    20:14:11 1-Polling 21:1/183 on slot 1 via BINKP
    20:14:11 2-Mailer Mystic/1.12A43 binkp/1.0
    20:14:11 1-Connecting to vert.synchro.net on port 24554
    20:14:11 5-Session ended (1 sent, 0 rcvd, 0 skip)
    20:14:11 Queued 1 files (770 bytes) for 21:1/185
    20:14:11 5-Polling 21:1/185 on slot 5 via BINKP
    20:14:11 2-Info BUILD 2019/03/03 01:42:47 Raspberry Pi/32
    20:14:11 Queued 1 files (770 bytes) for 21:1/186
    20:14:11 5-Connecting to idomain.synchro.net on port 24554
    20:14:11 Waiting for available send slot for 21:1/186
    20:14:11 4-Sending: 0000ffb0.suc (770 bytes) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
    System ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ SysOp ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Address/Domain
    Rob Swindell / Vertrauen B Rob Swindell 21:1/183@fsxnet
    Dave Vandermeer / Internal Dave Vandermeer 21:1/178@fsxnet Ismar Hasanbegovic / Dali' Ismar Hasanbegovic 21:1/177@fsxnet
    Jeff Thiele / Perceptronic Jeff Thiele 21:1/180@fsxnet Steve Helferich / Immortal Steve Helferich 21:1/185@fsxnet Jordan McGilvray / Colossu Jordan McGilvray 21:1/182@fsxnet

    The MUTIL [EchoMailTracker] is enabled but if you decide to try it
    please be very careful because it has not had a good run through of testing yet. I will be setting up some test cases for these features soon.

    I would love assistance if someone wants to try it, but I recognize this is mostly for HUBs where they may not want to risk restoring if
    something doesn't work.

    At the very least MIS POLL seems stable and complete though in this
    build.

    I'm going to try and get the SSH going on 24553 first. If anyone wants to
    test this at 21:1/100 please let me know.

    The port should now be open and the server running.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: All extremists should be shot. (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Sunday, March 01, 2020 14:55:20
    I'm going to try and get the SSH going on 24553 first. If anyone wants to test this at 21:1/100 please let me know.

    The port should now be open and the server running.

    I just tried it and it couldn't connect. Is the port behind a firewall by chance? Could of couse be a bug. I should retest locally to make sure I
    didnt break anything.

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Sun, Mar 01 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.01 14:59:34 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:1/100
    + 2020.03.01 14:59:34 1-Polling 21:1/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.01 14:59:34 1-Connecting to agency.bbs.nz on port 24553
    + 2020.03.01 14:59:41 1-Unable to connect
    + 2020.03.01 14:59:41 Polled 1 systems

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 01, 2020 21:05:52
    On 01 Mar 2020 at 02:55p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I just tried it and it couldn't connect. Is the port behind a firewall
    by chance? Could of couse be a bug. I should retest locally to make
    sure I didnt break anything.

    I'm fairly sure its open. will keep playing, just posted some stuff to the
    echo about this :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Avon on Sunday, March 01, 2020 09:18:10
    Hello Avon!

    On 01 Mar 2020, Avon said the following...
    I'm going to try and get the SSH going on 24553 first. If anyone wants to test this at 21:1/100 please let me know.

    The port should now be open and the server running.

    I can connect, but I get an authorization failure:

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Sun, Mar 01 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.01 09:13:47 Polling all nodes of session type ALL
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:47 1-Polling 21:1/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:47 1-Connecting to agency.bbs.nz on port 24553
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:47 1-Connected by IPV4 to 219.89.83.33
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:48 1-Connection lost
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:48 1-Authorization failed
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:49 Polled 1 systems

    I have scbbs.nsupdate.info:24553 up and running if you'd like to try a forced send to me or similar. =)

    (I have reverted to agency.bbs.nz:24556 and Use SSL/TLS: No in the mean time
    so that I can fetch mail from you.)

    Best regards
    Zip

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Zip on Sunday, March 01, 2020 21:26:29
    On 01 Mar 2020 at 09:18a, Zip pondered and said...

    I can connect, but I get an authorization failure:

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Sun, Mar 01 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.01 09:13:47 Polling all nodes of session type ALL + 2020.03.01 09:13:47 1-Polling 21:1/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:47 1-Connecting to agency.bbs.nz on port 24553
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:47 1-Connected by IPV4 to 219.89.83.33
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:48 1-Connection lost
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:48 1-Authorization failed
    + 2020.03.01 09:13:49 Polled 1 systems

    what I see internally when I force the BinkP Hostname to include a port
    number.

    I have scbbs.nsupdate.info:24553 up and running if you'd like to try a forced send to me or similar. =)

    I changed your settings at 1/100 to

    BINKP Hostname ³ scbbs.nsupdate.info
    IP Type ³ IPV4
    Password ³ *******
    Time Out ³ 30
    Block Size ³ 16384
    CRAM-MD5 ³ Yes
    Use SSL/TLS ³ Yes
    Hide AKAs ³ Yes
    ³

    The did a MIS POLL 21:1/202

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Sun, Mar 01 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.01 21:24:04 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:1/202
    + 2020.03.01 21:24:04 Queued 1 files (3,409 bytes) for 21:1/202
    + 2020.03.01 21:24:04 1-Polling 21:1/202 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.01 21:24:04 1-Connecting to scbbs.nsupdate.info on port 24553
    + 2020.03.01 21:24:11 1-Unable to connect
    + 2020.03.01 21:24:11 Polled 1 systems

    No joy there.

    Then opted to try stating the port in the BinkP Hostname

    BINKP Hostname ³ scbbs.nsupdate.info:24553
    IP Type ³ IPV4
    Password ³ *******
    Time Out ³ 30
    Block Size ³ 16384
    CRAM-MD5 ³ Yes
    Use SSL/TLS ³ Yes
    Hide AKAs ³ Yes

    and tried another poll

    21:25:25 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:1/202
    21:25:25 Queued 1 files (3,409 bytes) for 21:1/202
    21:25:25 1-Polling 21:1/202 on slot 1 via BINKP
    21:25:25 1-Connecting to scbbs.nsupdate.info on port 24553
    21:25:26 1-Connected by IPV4 to 83.254.233.176
    21:25:27 1-Error receiving data (Msg= Size=0/6351) (Res=-1)
    21:25:27 1-Connection lost
    21:25:27 1-Authorization failed
    21:25:27 Polled 1 systems

    so that worked better but not success..

    I will revert to SSL = NO and go back to your usual port for now

    I have a feeling g00r00 may spot something soon.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Sunday, March 01, 2020 15:38:48
    I just tried it and it couldn't connect. Is the port behind a firewa by chance? Could of couse be a bug. I should retest locally to make sure I didnt break anything.

    I'm fairly sure its open. will keep playing, just posted some stuff to
    the echo about this :)

    Found the issue I believe, and I am uploading a new version as I type this.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 01, 2020 21:40:36
    On 01 Mar 2020 at 03:38p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    Found the issue I believe, and I am uploading a new version as I type this.

    Thanks :)

    Getting late here but will try to update and test before eyeballs fall out

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Sunday, March 01, 2020 15:56:51
    Thanks :)

    Getting late here but will try to update and test before eyeballs fall
    out

    Well good news I just successfully exchanged via SSL with you. So at least
    its working with another Mystic system.

    Hopefully eyeballs have preserved and will live another day!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Avon on Sunday, March 01, 2020 09:57:03
    Hello Avon!

    On 01 Mar 2020, Avon said the following...
    I can connect, but I get an authorization failure:
    what I see internally when I force the BinkP Hostname to include a port number.

    Thanks!

    I removed :24553 from your hostname in my echomail node configuratoin and now it seems to poll you OK over SSL:

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Sun, Mar 01 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.01 09:52:48 Polling all nodes of session type ALL
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:48 1-Polling 21:1/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:48 1-Connecting to agency.bbs.nz on port 24553
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:51 1-Connected by IPV4 SSL to 219.89.83.33
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:51 1-System fsxHUB Risa [NET1]
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:51 1-SysOp Avon
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:51 1-Info TIME Sun, 01 Mar 2020 21:52:50 +1300
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:51 1-Mailer Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:51 1-Info BUILD 2020/03/01 15:36:07 Windows/32
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:53 1-Remote Queue: 0 files 0 bytes
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:53 1-Session ended (0 sent, 0 rcvd, 0 skip)
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:54 Polled 1 systems

    But then you should have been able to poll me as well? Hmm...

    I have a feeling g00r00 may spot something soon.

    Perhaps something related to Cryptlib on Windows?

    Best regards
    Zip

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Zip on Sunday, March 01, 2020 15:59:11
    I removed :24553 from your hostname in my echomail node configuratoin
    and now it seems to poll you OK over SSL:

    I think thats just a timing thing. We are swapping versions as you're
    testing this stuff :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Zip on Sunday, March 01, 2020 22:03:37
    On 01 Mar 2020 at 09:57a, Zip pondered and said...

    I removed :24553 from your hostname in my echomail node configuratoin
    and now it seems to poll you OK over SSL:

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Sun, Mar 01 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.01 09:52:48 Polling all nodes of session type ALL + 2020.03.01 09:52:48 1-Polling 21:1/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:48 1-Connecting to agency.bbs.nz on port 24553
    + 2020.03.01 09:52:51 1-Connected by IPV4 SSL to 219.89.83.33

    that's good :)

    But then you should have been able to poll me as well? Hmm...

    I have a feeling g00r00 may spot something soon.

    Perhaps something related to Cryptlib on Windows?

    Best regards

    It was a windows bug that g00r00 just fixed and I updated at 1/100 so let me try a poll to you now... hang a tic.


    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Sun, Mar 01 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.01 22:02:13 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:1/202
    + 2020.03.01 22:02:13 Queued 1 files (2,681 bytes) for 21:1/202
    + 2020.03.01 22:02:13 1-Polling 21:1/202 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.01 22:02:13 1-Connecting to scbbs.nsupdate.info on port 24553
    + 2020.03.01 22:02:14 1-Connected by IPV4 to 83.254.233.176
    + 2020.03.01 22:02:16 1-Error receiving data (Msg= Size=0/6351) (Res=-1)
    + 2020.03.01 22:02:16 1-Connection lost
    + 2020.03.01 22:02:16 1-Authorization failed
    + 2020.03.01 22:02:16 Polled 1 systems

    No joy... but it may be your build needs an update to..

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 01, 2020 22:07:37
    On 01 Mar 2020 at 03:56p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    Well good news I just successfully exchanged via SSL with you. So at least its working with another Mystic system.

    Hopefully eyeballs have preserved and will live another day!

    :)

    Righto it's coming up 10pm Sun night here and I have work in the morning so
    I'm going to need to pull the plug for now and get to bed.

    Happy to test some more tomorrow night etc. and thanks to all for your help testing 1/100 I am going to leave the port 24553 up for SSL connects from now on.

    Deon and Al - yep to more tests, will look to do so tomorrow.

    Night all.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Zip@21:1/202 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 01, 2020 10:07:58
    Hello g00r00!

    On 01 Mar 2020, g00r00 said the following...
    I think thats just a timing thing. We are swapping versions as you're testing this stuff :)

    Yep! =)

    I just upgraded my L64 version as well (downloaded it 5 minutes ago),
    and it seems to (still) poll just fine using SSL.

    Best regards
    Zip

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)
  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Avon on Sunday, March 01, 2020 10:09:48
    Hello Avon!

    On 01 Mar 2020, Avon said the following...
    No joy... but it may be your build needs an update to..

    Just updated it, so please try again! :)

    Best regards
    Zip

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Zip on Sunday, March 01, 2020 16:19:40
    I just upgraded my L64 version as well (downloaded it 5 minutes ago),
    and it seems to (still) poll just fine using SSL.

    Great to hear and that will save me some time.

    I've been pushing really hard the last few days to get the new MIS POLL function, SSL, and all of the new download hub automation stuff in place.

    I think its time for me to go do something else for a few hours this evening for my own sanity. :)

    Thanks for helping to test!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Zip@21:1/202 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 01, 2020 10:23:44
    Hello g00r00!

    On 01 Mar 2020, g00r00 said the following...
    Great to hear and that will save me some time.

    Glad to hear that! :)

    I think its time for me to go do something else for a few hours this evening for my own sanity. :)

    =)

    Thanks for helping to test!

    You're very welcome!

    Best regards
    Zip

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)
  • From alter ego@21:2/116 to Avon on Sunday, March 01, 2020 22:37:32
    Re: Re: Prealphas
    By: Avon to g00r00 on Sun Mar 01 2020 10:07 pm

    Deon and Al - yep to more tests, will look to do so tomorrow.

    FYI, I update Hub 3 to the latest synchronet, and SSL polled you:

    Connection to agency.bbs.nz:24553 successful
    Negotiating TLS
    ...
    Got M_NUL command args: OPT CRAM-MD5-fc08764d08635b53228507c91c69b24c
    Got M_NUL command args: SYS fsxHUB Risa [NET1]
    Got M_NUL command args: ZYZ Avon
    Got M_NUL command args: TIME Mon, 02 Mar 2020 00:32:12 +1300
    Got M_NUL command args: VER Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
    Peer version: Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
    Got M_NUL command args: BUILD 2020/03/01 15:36:07 Windows/32
    Got M_ADR command args: 21:1/100@fsxnet 21:1/3@fsxnet 21:1/2@fsxnet 21:1/0@fsxnet 21:0/0@fsxnet
    Sending M_PWD command args: CRAM-MD5-2638083c2692688b68843157b3113a9f
    Sent M_PWD command
    Got M_OK command args: secure
    Authentication successful: secure
    ...
    Adding outbound files for 21:1/100@fsxnet
    Sending M_EOB command args:
    Sent M_EOB command
    Got M_NUL command args: QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
    Got M_EOB command args:
    Unlocking C:/mailer/outbound.015\00010064.bsy.

    It was a success :)

    I'll setup Hub 3 to receive inbound TLS - and send the details.
    ...deon


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  • From alter ego@21:2/116 to Avon on Sunday, March 01, 2020 22:53:57
    Re: Re: Prealphas
    By: alter ego to Avon on Sun Mar 01 2020 10:37 pm

    I'll setup Hub 3 to receive inbound TLS - and send the details.

    OK, hub 3 is on alterant.leenooks.net:24556 (synchronet windows), and my BBS 2/116 is on alterant.leenooks.net:24553 (synchronet linux).

    Anybody who wants to test binkps is welcome to.
    ...deon


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  • From Al@21:4/106 to alter ego on Sunday, March 01, 2020 10:00:42
    Hello alter,

    OK, hub 3 is on alterant.leenooks.net:24556 (synchronet windows), and
    my BBS 2/116 is on alterant.leenooks.net:24553 (synchronet linux).

    I tried both 21 3/0 and 2/116 and I get the same key too small error.

    So, I can't poll Synchronet or Mystic presently with binkd. Can you try polling
    here?

    21:4/106 trmb.ca:24553.

    I'm not sure what the solution is here, I'll have to ask Oli for advice.

    Maybe I need to tone my ssl down or Mystic and SBBS need to turn it up. That's a technical detail I don't know.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to alter ego on Sunday, March 01, 2020 12:53:18
    Hello alter,

    I'll setup Hub 3 to receive inbound TLS - and send the details.

    OK, hub 3 is on alterant.leenooks.net:24556 (synchronet windows), and
    my BBS 2/116 is on alterant.leenooks.net:24553 (synchronet linux).

    I have tried both of these. It connects but fails for some reason, something about the certificates.

    If you have made changes those certs may need to be deleted and recreated. I'm guessing there. I'm not sure what the problem is.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From buanzo@21:2/161 to Al on Sunday, March 01, 2020 18:46:10
    On 01 Mar 2020, Al said the following...
    I have tried both of these. It connects but fails for some reason, something about the certificates.

    Maybe its the TLS < v1.2 situation?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: DaRK Game BBS (21:2/161)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to buanzo on Sunday, March 01, 2020 14:27:50
    Hello buanzo,

    I have tried both of these. It connects but fails for some
    reason, something about the certificates.

    Maybe its the TLS < v1.2 situation?

    Maybe, that one is still under investigation. I did use -cipher ALL:@SECLEVEL=1
    for that test. openssl spit out some errors and I'm not exactly sure why.

    Will have to keep testing.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to buanzo on Monday, March 02, 2020 06:46:21
    I have tried both of these. It connects but fails for some reason, something about the certificates.

    Maybe its the TLS < v1.2 situation?

    Mystic requires TLS 1.2 and won't operate on anything less so that should not be a factor.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From alter ego@21:2/116 to Al on Monday, March 02, 2020 13:04:59
    Re: Prealphas
    By: Al to alter ego on Sun Mar 01 2020 10:00 am

    So, I can't poll Synchronet or Mystic presently with binkd. Can you try polling
    here?

    So I've set you up on Hub 3, and did a poll, looks like it worked :)

    Connecting to 21:4/106@fsxnet at trmb.ca:24553
    Connection to trmb.ca:24553 successful
    Negotiating TLS
    ...
    Sent M_ADR command
    Got M_NUL command args: OPT CRAM-MD5-275803802e25bf0161500a83b4c501ee
    Got M_NUL command args: SYS The Rusty MailBox
    Got M_NUL command args: ZYZ Alan Ianson
    Got M_NUL command args: LOC Penticton, BC Canada
    Got M_NUL command args: NDL 115200,CM,XW,IBN
    Got M_NUL command args: TIME Sun, 1 Mar 2020 18:03:12 -0800
    Got M_NUL command args: VER binkd/1.1a-101/Linux binkp/1.1
    Peer version: binkd/1.1a-101/Linux binkp/1.1
    Got M_ADR command args: 1:153/757@fidonet 1:153/0@fidonet 21:4/106@fsxnet 32:1/5@gamenet
    Sending M_PWD command args: CRAM-MD5-da81f5a253dc6b35cdb0cad3f7ec582c
    Sent M_PWD command
    Got M_NUL command args: TRF 0 0
    Got M_NUL command args: OPT EXTCMD GZ BZ2
    Got M_OK command args: non-secure
    Authentication successful: non-secure
    Adding outbound files for 21:4/106@fsxnet
    Error in recv() of first byte of packet header
    Unlocking C:/mailer/outbound.015\0004006a.bsy.
    C:\BBS\SBBS\exec\binkit.js executed in 3.80 seconds

    Although, "Error in recv()..." not sure what you see on your side...
    ...deon


    ... An optimist is a man who starts a crossword puzzle with a fountain pen.
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
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  • From Al@21:4/106 to alter ego on Sunday, March 01, 2020 18:17:22
    Hello alter,

    So, I can't poll Synchronet or Mystic presently with binkd. Can
    you try polling here?

    Error in recv() of first byte of packet header

    Although, "Error in recv()..." not sure what you see on your side...

    I'm not sure either. That poll looks good here. I was being a little chincy with my log level but have turned it up a bit now. I don't see any errors here on my side..


    === Cut ===
    - 01 Mar 18:03:12 [31320] incoming from 127.0.0.1 (48332)
    + 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] incoming session with localhost [127.0.0.1]

    The above means the poll was answered on port 24553 by a web server and passed to binkd.

    - 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] SYS W7-1-1
    - 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] ZYZ alterego
    - 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] LOC Parkdale VIC
    - 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    - 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] TIME Mon Mar 02 2020 13:03:12 GMT+1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time)
    - 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] VER BinkIT/2.28,JSBinkP/1.122,sbbs3.17c/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] addr: 21:3/100@fsxnet
    + 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] addr: 618:510/2@micronet (n/a or busy)
    + 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] addr: 10:1/2@private (n/a or busy)
    + 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] addr: 516:999/998@videotex (n/a or busy)
    + 01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] done (from 21:3/100@fsxnet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    01 Mar 18:03:12 [8507] session closed, quitting...
    01 Mar 18:03:12 [31320] rc(8507)=0
    === Cut ===

    There is no mention of errors in my log but I have now turned up the verbosity so it may show more now. Also in my setup the tls is done by openssl so it is not logged by binkd.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From alter ego@21:2/116 to Al on Monday, March 02, 2020 15:20:27
    Re: Prealphas
    By: Al to alter ego on Sun Mar 01 2020 06:17 pm

    There is no mention of errors in my log but I have now turned up the verbosity so it may show more now. Also in my setup the tls is done by openssl so it is not logged by binkd.

    Hmm, ok, it might be that we dont have a password set, now that I've defined you in echocfg.

    Although I do see "timeout receiving first byte of packet..." so not sure why it thinks a packet is transferring..

    Interesting, I also see "Will Encrypt Session", which seems redundant if its a TLS session - but I'll pay more attention when there is some mail flow and check with DM if it continues.

    Let me know if you want a password so that you can pull some packets from Hub 3.
    ...deon


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to alter ego on Monday, March 02, 2020 21:06:32
    On 01 Mar 2020 at 10:53p, alter ego pondered and said...

    OK, hub 3 is on alterant.leenooks.net:24556 (synchronet windows), and my

    Anybody who wants to test binkps is welcome to.

    I tried using both 2/100 and 1/100 and hit the same sort of errors

    20:59:59 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:3/100
    20:59:59 1-Polling 21:3/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    20:59:59 1-Connecting to alterant.leenooks.net on port 24556
    20:59:59 1-Connected by IPV4 to 101.186.5.106
    21:00:31 1-Data frame timeout
    21:00:31 1-Connection lost
    21:00:31 1-Authorization failed
    21:00:32 Polled 1 systems

    I have a theory that because I am stating a port in your Mystic BinkP
    Hostname for some reason the session with SSL set to yes is failing.

    I found this was happening when I tested 2/100 polling 1/100 with agency.bbs.nz:24553 set as the BinkP Hostname and SSL set to Yes

    But if I removed the port and left SSL set to yes when Mystic polled 1/100 I got a successful SSL connect. I saw a similar thing for Dan at NET 4

    With port number in BinkP Hostname

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Mon, Mar 02 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.02 03:04:50 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:4/100
    + 2020.03.02 03:04:50 1-Polling 21:4/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.02 03:04:50 1-Connecting to BBS.CASTLEROCKBBS.COM on port 24553
    + 2020.03.02 03:04:50 1-Connected by IPV4 to 184.155.113.241
    + 2020.03.02 03:04:53 1-Connection lost
    + 2020.03.02 03:04:53 1-Authorization failed
    + 2020.03.02 03:04:53 Polled 1 systems

    With no port number in BinkP Hostname..


    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/01 Mon, Mar 02 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.02 03:05:17 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:4/100
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:17 1-Polling 21:4/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:17 1-Connecting to BBS.CASTLEROCKBBS.COM on port 24553
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:18 1-Connected by IPV4 SSL to 184.155.113.241
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:18 1-System fsxHUB Niba [NET4]
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:18 1-SysOp Black Panther
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:18 1-Info TIME Mon, 02 Mar 2020 01:05:19 -0700
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:18 1-Mailer Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:18 1-Info BUILD 2020/03/01 15:36:07 Windows/32
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:18 1-Remote Queue: 0 files 0 bytes
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:18 1-Session ended (0 sent, 0 rcvd, 0 skip)
    + 2020.03.02 03:05:20 Polled 1 systems

    I think g00r00 may need to look at this a little further :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to alter ego on Monday, March 02, 2020 03:46:12
    Hello alter,

    Although I do see "timeout receiving first byte of packet..." so not
    sure why it thinks a packet is transferring..

    I've seen that error reported in my own logs before. I don't know why but it was never troublesome so I never worried about it any.

    Might be good to resolve that if we can.

    Interesting, I also see "Will Encrypt Session", which seems redundant
    if its a TLS session - but I'll pay more attention when there is some
    mail flow and check with DM if it continues.

    The binkp protocol hasn't been updated at all for binkps. The protocol and session works as always. We have just put binkp on a secure channel.

    Let me know if you want a password so that you can pull some packets
    from Hub 3.

    If you can set my node up and send me the details I'll setup likewise. If we get incomunicado somehow you can email me at agianson {at} gmail {dot} com

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From alter ego@21:2/116 to Al on Monday, March 02, 2020 23:47:17
    Re: Prealphas
    By: Al to alter ego on Mon Mar 02 2020 03:46 am

    If you can set my node up and send me the details I'll setup likewise. If we get incomunicado somehow you can email me at agianson {at} gmail {dot} com

    Just sent an email - let me know if you find anythig amiss...
    ...deon


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    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From alter ego@21:2/116 to Al on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 09:00:10
    Re: Prealphas
    By: alter ego to Al on Mon Mar 02 2020 11:47 pm

    If you can set my node up and send me the details I'll setup
    likewise. If we get incomunicado somehow you can email me at

    Looks like it is working well...

    3/3 07:35:38a 0296 BINKPS connection accepted from: 172.105.21.200 port 43462
    3/3 07:35:38a 0296 BINKPS BinkIT/2.28 invoked with options:
    3/3 07:35:38a 0296 BINKPS JSBinkP/1.122 inbound connection from 172.105.21.200:43462
    3/3 07:35:39a 0296 BINKPS Peer version: binkd/1.1a-101/Linux binkp/1.1
    3/3 07:35:39a 0296 BINKPS Will encrypt session.
    3/3 07:35:39a 0296 BINKPS Remote addresses: 1:153/757@fidonet 1:153/0@fidonet 21:4/106@fsxnet 32:1/5@gamenet
    3/3 07:35:39a 0296 BINKPS Inbound session for: 21:4/106@fsxnet
    3/3 07:35:39a 0296 BINKPS CRAM-MD5 password match for 21:4/106@fsxnet
    3/3 07:37:39a 0296 BINKPS Timed out receiving first byte of packet header!
    3/3 07:37:39a 0296 BINKPS service thread terminated (0 clients remain, 0 total, 31 served)
    ...deon


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  • From eggy@21:4/143 to All on Monday, March 02, 2020 20:01:47
    Alright you have my interest..

    I've been reading the ongoing discussion on binkps and I would like to join
    the "fun" if you will. I'm all about using SSL wherever possible. I'm
    assuming however, in order to join the "fun" I need to upgrade to A46.. This has been the only thing that is keeping me from joining in on the "fun".

    I've also noticed A46 introduces a new mis poll, is there action(s) I'll need to take to get my networks functional once I upgrade?

    Originally, I was planning to wait for A46 to be released as more "stable",
    as I recently trashed my BBS last weekend due to a mistake on my part.. But this binkps is a bit too tempting to wait on..

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Eggy BBS (21:4/143)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to eggy on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 10:11:07
    I've been reading the ongoing discussion on binkps and I would like to join the "fun" if you will. I'm all about using SSL wherever possible.

    Most of that discussion is about BINKD and SSL. The SSL in Mystic has changed in A46 to be more compatible with the mailers that just tunnel SSL instead of opportunistic SSL that it used in A43, A44, A45, etc.

    If you want to use SSL with BINKP you will need to upgrade to the latest A46 prealpha (and there is potential that everyone will need to delete their ssl.cert in DATA folder but that remains to be confirmed. And its also possible this will break compatibility with Synchronet).

    I've also noticed A46 introduces a new mis poll, is there action(s) I'll need to take to get my networks functional once I upgrade?

    You just change "fidopoll" to "mis poll" and thats it. The commands are
    still the same otherwise. So if you have "fidopol send" you would change
    that to "mis poll send".

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/02 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From alter ego@21:2/116 to g00r00 on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 16:21:45
    Re: Re: Prealphas
    By: g00r00 to eggy on Tue Mar 03 2020 10:11 am

    their ssl.cert in DATA folder but that remains to be confirmed. And its also possible this will break compatibility with Synchronet).

    Have we worked out what the issue is?

    I can certainly poll mystic systems with binkps and from my view of the world, it is successful.

    They just cant poll me... (I believe)
    ...deon


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to alter ego on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 13:38:13
    Have we worked out what the issue is?

    As of now I don't know any issues with Mystic. Are you using the latest release and are the system you're connecting with?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/02 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Avon on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 20:10:51

    On 02 Mar 2020 at 09:06p, Avon pondered and said...


    20:59:59 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:3/100
    20:59:59 1-Polling 21:3/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    20:59:59 1-Connecting to alterant.leenooks.net on port 24556
    20:59:59 1-Connected by IPV4 to 101.186.5.106
    21:00:31 1-Data frame timeout
    21:00:31 1-Connection lost
    21:00:31 1-Authorization failed
    21:00:32 Polled 1 systems

    OK progress tonight... just tested the latest build from g00r00 and set BinkP Hostname to your domain:24556 and tried a poll from 1/100 which I have just updated.

    20:08:29 Poll BINKP node via address lookup: 21:3/100
    20:08:29 1-Polling 21:3/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    20:08:29 1-Connecting to alterant.leenooks.net on port 24556
    20:08:30 1-Connected by IPV4 SSL to 101.186.5.106
    20:08:30 1-System W7-1-1
    20:08:30 1-SysOp alterego
    20:08:30 1-Location Parkdale VIC
    20:08:30 1-Info NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    20:08:30 1-Info TIME Tue Mar 03 2020 18:08:35 GMT+1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight 20:08:30 1-Mailer BinkIT/2.28,JSBinkP/1.122,sbbs3.17c/Win32 binkp/1.1
    20:08:30 1-Session ended (0 sent, 0 rcvd, 0 skip)
    20:08:31 Polled 1 systems

    So success there. I am now working on NET 3 to update and will test/report on that shortly.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From ryan@21:1/168 to g00r00 on Monday, March 02, 2020 23:31:11
    If you want to use SSL with BINKP you will need to upgrade to the latest A46 prealpha (and there is potential that everyone will need to delete their ssl.cert in DATA folder but that remains to be confirmed. And its also possible this will break compatibility with Synchronet).

    I'm getting ahead of myself but I have a cert from letsyncrypt for my BBS's website. Would it be possible at some point to configure Mystic's BINKPS to present my official/signed cert?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: monterey bbs (21:1/168)
  • From alter ego@21:2/116 to g00r00 on Tuesday, March 03, 2020 20:17:46
    Re: Re: Prealphas
    By: g00r00 to alter ego on Tue Mar 03 2020 01:38 pm

    As of now I don't know any issues with Mystic. Are you using the latest release and are the system you're connecting with?

    Yes and yes.

    I was under the impression that Avon gave you some details and it seemed to be port issues. IE: When trying to connect to a "non standard" (in this case not 24553), MIS was doing unusual things. I havent really been following it closely, so things may have progressed since then.

    But it is unusual that I can poll Mystic ok, but it cannot poll me on a non-standard port.

    (Other systems can poll me fine - Al is using binkd with openssl in front.) ...deon


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to alter ego on Wednesday, March 04, 2020 20:33:47
    I was under the impression that Avon gave you some details and it seemed to be port issues. IE: When trying to connect to a "non standard" (in
    this case not 24553), MIS was doing unusual things. I havent really been

    Yes that was fixed in the same 30 minute or so window that we were testing. I use a custom port set on my setup here to connect to Avon and my test network locally uses non-standar SSL ports. All are working.

    Thats why I am asking if you're absolutely sure you have the latest version. If you don't, the exact problem you're describing happens. If you do, it shouldn't.

    I'll reupload it just in case so we can make sure we're on the same page, and once everyone has the March 4th version we can go from there.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/04 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Saturday, March 07, 2020 19:51:16
    I am updating the prealphas with a couple minor features and fixes for
    Windows and Linux. Should be available in about 5 minutes.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/07 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 08, 2020 10:12:35
    On 07 Mar 2020 at 07:51p, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I am updating the prealphas with a couple minor features and fixes for Windows and Linux. Should be available in about 5 minutes.

    Thank you. I have updated 1/100 and 1/101 and will work to do the same with 2/100 and 4/100 over the coming hours

    [snip]

    + Users now have a new flag that when set to Yes will always log them in as
    invisible, bypassing the login as invisisble prompt when set to Yes.

    [snip]

    Thanks for this. It's a real time saver.

    [snip]

    ! Fixed a bug with BINKP where Mystic could send a 0 byte length data frame
    if a file size was exactly evenly divisible by the buffer size.

    [snip]

    Hopefully that may solve the issue the HUBs have been experiencing?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/07 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Sunday, March 08, 2020 07:53:11
    ! Fixed a bug with BINKP where Mystic could send a 0 byte length data frame if a file size was exactly evenly divisible by the buffer size.

    [snip]

    Hopefully that may solve the issue the HUBs have been experiencing?

    I think if this happened it would have been very rare and some mailers may not even have worried about a 0 byte data frame anyway (not sure about that it very well could have totally blew them up too). So my thoughts are that it won't fix the random quirkiness but at the very least its an improvement in some very rare circumstance. Or maybe it wasn't as rare as I expect, and it does who knows ;)

    As I mentioned in another mail, at least some of the errors looked to be at fault of a non-Mystic mailer that was choking when Mystic sends its EOB before a GOT frame (which is fine, but it looked like the mailer thought the session should end at that point and was showing an error)

    So it seems like there could be a series of different issues. I have added more detailed poll.txt and it will also create ssl.txt if it gets an SSL read error. But on that note, I haven't had any issues with the latest build (yet).

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/07 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 08, 2020 14:57:33
    On 08 Mar 2020 at 07:53a, g00r00 pondered and said...

    So it seems like there could be a series of different issues. I have added more detailed poll.txt and it will also create ssl.txt if it gets
    an SSL read error. But on that note, I haven't had any issues with the latest build (yet).

    I'm picking you must have updated the build again today then, as I am not seeing any ssl.txt logging in the one I applied this morning (my time) I'll
    try to update things later and once on the same build I'm thinking perhaps
    just setting up SSL polling between NET 1 to NET 2 and NET 1 to NET 3 but
    leave NET 2 and NET 3 polling NET 1 as is.. I know NET2 is polling using std BinkP and Deon has NET 3 polling NET 1 using SSL :)

    [snip]

    + 2020.03.08 14:33:26 BINKP > Connect on slot 1/25 SSL (2001:8003:4C06:5700:5863:4586:2DEC:493B)
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:26 BINKP 1-HostName Unknown
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:26 BINKP 1-Country Unknown (-)
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:26 BINKP 1-Unsecure True
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:26 BINKP 1-ForceMD5 False
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:26 BINKP 1-Rename 0
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-System W7-1-1
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-SysOp alterego
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Location Parkdale VIC
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Info NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Info TIME Sun Mar 08 2020 12:33:39 GMT+1100
    (AUS Eastern Daylight Time)
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Mailer
    BinkIT/2.28,JSBinkP/1.122,sbbs3.17c/Win32 binkp/1.1
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Authenticating 21:3/100@fsxnet by CRAM-MD5
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Node is busy processing mail
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Queued 0 files for 21:3/100@fsxnet
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Receiving: 5e644b6c.pkt (698 bytes)
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:27 BINKP 1-Session ended (0 sent, 1 rcvd, 0 skip)
    + 2020.03.08 14:33:28 EVENT Res: 0

    [snip]

    Then we can start to look at what's happening

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/07 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Sunday, March 08, 2020 11:25:22
    I'm picking you must have updated the build again today then, as I am not seeing any ssl.txt logging in the one I applied this morning (my time)

    That should be because you haven't had any SSL read errors. :)

    I did not update it again.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/07 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Sunday, March 08, 2020 19:07:18
    On 08 Mar 2020 at 11:25a, g00r00 pondered and said...

    That should be because you haven't had any SSL read errors. :)

    I did not update it again.

    aha, OK thanks... righto I'll start some tests and let you know if something occurs.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/07 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Thursday, March 12, 2020 04:22:13
    Updated the prealphas. Very minor changes in this one.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/12 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to g00r00 on Wednesday, March 11, 2020 20:28:26
    Updated the prealphas. Very minor changes in this one.

    Is there a ARM/Pi prealpha version? Didn't see it in the dir...

    |08.|07..|15.. |11Alpha |07- |11Card & Claw BBS

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/07 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Card & Claw BBS | Analog Gaming: Board Games, RPGs (21:4/158)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Alpha on Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:16:43
    Updated the prealphas. Very minor changes in this one.

    Is there a ARM/Pi prealpha version? Didn't see it in the dir...

    No I don't release ARM prealphas often, mostly because I often don't have access to my Pi to compile it and it takes some time. I won't have access to my Pi probably for another month..

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/12 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Zip@21:1/202 to g00r00 on Thursday, March 12, 2020 06:33:56
    Hello g00r00!

    On 12 Mar 2020, g00r00 said the following...
    Updated the prealphas. Very minor changes in this one.

    Thanks!

    I noticed there is a prompts.bak in the data directory (when performing a
    fresh install) -- is that one needed for anything? =)

    I also managed to get "Error 0" when polling HUB 1 two times in close succession:

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/09 Thu, Mar 12 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.12 06:14:08 Sending to all nodes of session type ALL
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:08 Queued 1 files (666 bytes) for 21:1/100
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:08 1-Polling 21:1/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:08 1-Connecting to agency.bbs.nz on port 24553
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:10 1-Connected by IPV4 SSL to 219.89.83.33
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:10 1-System fsxHUB Risa [NET1]
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:10 1-SysOp Avon
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:10 1-Info TIME Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:14:04 +1300
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:10 1-Mailer Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:10 1-Info BUILD 2020/03/09 16:40:24 Windows/32
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:11 1-Sending: 00000066.th0 (666 bytes)
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:11 1-Remote Queue: 0 files 0 bytes
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:12 1-Session ended (1 sent, 0 rcvd, 0 skip)
    + 2020.03.12 06:14:13 Polled 1 systems

    --------------------- POLL v1.12 A46 2020/03/11 Thu, Mar 12 2020 (loglevel 2) + 2020.03.12 06:25:05 Polling all nodes of session type ALL
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:05 1-Polling 21:1/100 on slot 1 via BINKP
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:05 1-Connecting to agency.bbs.nz on port 24553
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:07 1-Connected by IPV4 SSL to 219.89.83.33
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:07 1-System fsxHUB Risa [NET1]
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:07 1-SysOp Avon
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:07 1-Info TIME Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:25:01 +1300
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:07 1-Mailer Mystic/1.12A46 binkp/1.0
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:07 1-Info BUILD 2020/03/09 16:40:24 Windows/32
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:09 1-Remote Queue: 0 files 0 bytes
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:09 1-Error 0

    Creating another poll.now semaphore made "./mis poll forced" run, but nothing happened (it just hung there) -- had to restart MIS to get things working again:

    --------------------- Mystic v1.12 A46 2020/03/11 Thu, Mar 12 2020 (loglevel 2)
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 MANAGER Starting event system
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 MANAGER Starting 4 server(s)
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 TELNET Listening on IPV4 port 50023 using interface "0.0.0.0"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 TELNET Listening on IPV6 port 50023 using interface
    "::"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 MGETTY Listening on IPV4 port 50123 using interface "127.0.0.1"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 SSH Listening on IPV4 port 50022 using interface "0.0.0.0"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 SSH Listening on IPV6 port 50022 using interface "::"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 MANAGER Starting servers in DAEMON mode
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 BINKP Listening on IPV4 port 24554 using interface "0.0.0.0"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 MGETTY Listening on IPV6 port 50123 using interface "::1"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 BINKP Listening on IPV4 SSL port 24553 using interface "0.0.0.0"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 BINKP Listening on IPV6 port 24554 using interface "::" + 2020.03.12 06:24:34 BINKP Listening on IPV6 SSL port 24553 using interface "::"
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:35 SENDMAIL Relaying mail to 127.0.0.1
    + 2020.03.12 06:24:35 EVENT Starting 5 event(s)
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:05 EVENT Removing: /mnt/bbs/mystic/semaphore/poll.now
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:05 EVENT Running event: CUSTOM: Poll EchoMail/NetMail
    + 2020.03.12 06:25:05 EVENT Cmd: ./mis poll forced
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Received shutdown event
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Shutdown signal received from OS
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Shutdown: EVENT
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Shutdown: SENDMAIL
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Shutdown: TELNET
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Shutdown: MGETTY
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Shutdown: SSH
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Shutdown: BINKP
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 MANAGER Waiting for servers to stop (up to 30 seconds)
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 EVENT Res: 0
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:26 SENDMAIL Shutting down
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:27 EVENT Event system stopped
    + 2020.03.12 06:27:27 MANAGER Shutdown complete

    Not sure what could be the cause of this. Connection blocking in BINKP at HUB
    1 because I was too quick? Different Mystic version there? But it worked just fine polling two times in succession after restarting MIS...

    Best regards
    Zip

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/11 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Thursday, March 12, 2020 21:48:18
    On 12 Mar 2020 at 04:22a, g00r00 pondered and said...

    Updated the prealphas. Very minor changes in this one.

    all three HUBs running Mystic are now on that 'latest' build.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/12 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Zip on Thursday, March 12, 2020 16:58:50
    Thanks!

    I noticed there is a prompts.bak in the data directory (when performing a fresh install) -- is that one needed for anything? =)

    No, I just did that just in case there was some issue that went undetected
    with all the new theme stuff, so that people wouldn't lose their custom prompts. There is no need to keep it.

    I also managed to get "Error 0" when polling HUB 1 two times in close

    Thanks I haven't seen or heard about that before but I will poke around and see what might have caused that message. An error 0 typically means no error so its odd that it was triggered, and for that message to show a pretty serious issue had to occur.

    If you see sometihng like this happen again please let me know. I did relax some of the status drawing functions in the latest release and maybe that change could have caused a problem so I will just put it back to where it was to be safe. Maybe that will fix whatever happened here, but its hard to say.

    Unfortuately I just removed the extra logging that was going on too, and that would have better pinpointed what was going on at the time of failure.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/12 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Thursday, March 12, 2020 18:00:20
    On 12 Mar 2020 at 04:22a, g00r00 pondered and said...

    Updated the prealphas. Very minor changes in this one.

    all three HUBs running Mystic are now on that 'latest' build.

    Thanks this should have the unlink feature in the NodeTracker that you wanted.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/12 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From Zip@21:1/202 to g00r00 on Thursday, March 12, 2020 19:00:20
    Hello g00r00!

    Thank you for your reply!

    On 12 Mar 2020, g00r00 said the following...
    If you see sometihng like this happen again please let me know. I did

    Will do!

    (No new occurrences during the day here.)

    Best regards
    Zip

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/11 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to All on Monday, March 16, 2020 11:48:10
    Updating the prealphas again because I failed to include the upgrade instructions in the first build yesterday (and MIS was actually starting up instead of printing out an error message when the upgrade wasn't performed)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/15 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Sector 7 (21:1/108)
  • From lemonlime@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 08:04:19
    Awesome, thanks g00r00! I hate to add another one to the list, but wo it be possible to remove the SMTP username/password character limits? auto-generates some really long username and password combos for thei SMTP services.

    Yeah we can get that expanded. Its probably limited to what it is
    because I didn't want to change the data file formats. Worst case it
    will have to wait until A45 since I already sent out the A44 upgrade but maybe I can figure something out.

    I'm not sure if this is always consistent with AWS but in my case the
    username is 20 characters and the password is 44 characters long (brutally
    long I know) :(

    Thanks again!
    Mike

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to lemonlime on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 22:59:15
    Awesome, thanks g00r00! I hate to add another one to the list, b it be possible to remove the SMTP username/password character li auto-generates some really long username and password combos for SMTP services.

    Yeah we can get that expanded. Its probably limited to what it is because I didn't want to change the data file formats. Worst case it will have to wait until A45 since I already sent out the A44 upgrade maybe I can figure something out.

    I'm not sure if this is always consistent with AWS but in my case the username is 20 characters and the password is 44 characters long
    (brutally long I know) :(

    Yeah, I wanted to use SendGrid for SMTP, but they use very long API keys,
    more characters than Mystic accepts in the PW field.

    |08.|07..|15.. |05Alpha |07- |13Card & Claw BBS |07- |08Berkeley, CA USA

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/16 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Card and Claw BBS | cardandclaw.com:8888 (21:4/158)