It has been a while since I have played with my mystic installation but
I could have sworn the way to enter a netmail was to put this in the TO field:
username@z:n/n.p
However, when I try this in the mystic netmail area, mystic drops a
"user not found" deuce. They are not local, of course they are not
found!
It has been a while since I have played with my mystic installation but
I could have sworn the way to enter a netmail was to put this in the TO field:
username@z:n/n.p
However, when I try this in the mystic netmail area, mystic drops a
"user not found" deuce. They are not local, of course they are not
found!
So, what am I forgetting?
I believe you have to have a message base specifically configured as a "Netmail" style base. Then, after you enter the user name, it'll ask you for the z:n/n.p and bring up the nodelist browse/search interface.
I believe you have to have a message base specifically configured as a
"Netmail" style base. Then, after you enter the user name, it'll ask you for >> the z:n/n.p and bring up the nodelist browse/search interface.
Yes. I was in the netmail message area, BUT I kept trying to "send email" >instead of "post." DUH! :D
Posting works much better.
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I don't understand myself, why we have to have a seperated netmail
echo area for each network we have. I works fine, but I just think
there could be a better way. New folks to Mystic always confuse that,
as did I.
Yea, I have always kind of found this different to. Mystic makes you use
a regular echomail type forum for each netmail:
I'd love to see g00r00 change email and add a netmail command that determines what network to send and sends or, can parse an email to tell it's a netmail, determine where to send, them send.
I don't understand myself, why we have to have a seperated netmail echo area for each network we have. I works fine, but I just think there could be a better way. New folks to Mystic always confuse that, as did I.
It sound like, you have chosen to do your system that why (becuse you didn't know any better). Personaly I've alway only created just ONE netmail with 1.12 A* and it works fine, it's seen in all my networks.. because netmail asc list command is g1|g3|g4|g5|g6 ..etc.. etc..
On 10/01/17, Skuz said the following...
I don't understand myself, why we have to have a seperated netma echo area for each network we have. I works fine, but I just thi there could be a better way. New folks to Mystic always confuse as did I.
It sound like, you have chosen to do your system that why (becuse you didn't know any better). Personaly I've alway only created just ONE netmail with 1.12 A* and it works fine, it's seen in all my networks. because netmail asc list command is g1|g3|g4|g5|g6 ..etc.. etc..
OK, that's right (g2|g3...) What I don't get is what address does it use then? Under Message Base Editor there is only one Network Address
allowed. Are you just putting the Primary address? If so why would it
work for a secondary network. If you let it stay 0:0/0 it can't work, if you put any address in I still don't see why it should work for any
others than the Primary network. It seems to me I have seen it work though, when I had things configured wrong.
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Dumas Walker wrote to All <=-
@TZ: 40f0
It has been a while since I have played with my mystic installation but
I could have sworn the way to enter a netmail was to put this in the TO field:
username@z:n/n.p
deepthaw wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I believe you have to have a message base specifically configured as a "Netmail" style base. Then, after you enter the user name, it'll ask
you for the z:n/n.p and bring up the nodelist browse/search interface.
Dumas Walker wrote to DEEPTHAW <=-
@TZ: 40f0
I believe you have to have a message base specifically configured as a "Netmail" style base. Then, after you enter the user name, it'll ask you for the z:n/n.p and bring up the nodelist browse/search interface.
Yes. I was in the netmail message area, BUT I kept trying to "send
email" instead of "post." DUH! :D
Posting works much better.
@TZ: 412c
Yea, I have always kind of found this different to. Mystic makes you
use a regular echomail type forum for each netmail:
I'd love to see g00r00 change email and add a netmail command that determines what network to send and sends or, can parse an email to
tell it's a netmail, determine where to send, them send.
I don't understand myself, why we have to have a seperated netmail echo area for each network we have. I works fine, but I just think there
could be a better way. New folks to Mystic always confuse that, as did
I.
bcw142 wrote to Skuz <=-
OK, that's right (g2|g3...) What I don't get is what address does it
use then? Under Message Base Editor there is only one Network Address allowed. Are you just putting the Primary address? If so why would it
work for a secondary network. If you let it stay 0:0/0 it can't work,
if you put any address in I still don't see why it should work for any others than the Primary network. It seems to me I have seen it work though, when I had things configured wrong.
Pequito wrote to bcw142 <=-
What do you mean keep it at 0:0/0 and not work, I have only ever had
one netmail area and kept it at s255g1 which is my local group. I do
not need to see the netmail everywhere and works just fine sending
netmail to ANY echo network I am in.
Confused at what some of you are doing creating 10 netmail areas sometimes, 1 netmail area per echo network when just one netmail area
will work for all! :)
netmail area and kept it at s255g1 which is my local group. I do not
Confused at what some of you are doing creating 10 netmail areas sometimes, 1 netmail area per echo network when just one netmail area
will work for all! :)
Cheers!
Pequito
I don't understand myself, why we have to have a seperated netmail echo area for each network we have. I works fine, but I just think there
could be a better way. New folks to Mystic always confuse that, as did I.
It sound like, you have chosen to do your system that why (becuse you didn't know any better). Personaly I've alway only created just ONE netmail with 1.12 A* and it works fine, it's seen in all my networks.. because netmail asc list command is g1|g3|g4|g5|g6 ..etc.. etc..
On 10/01/17, Skuz said the following...
It sound like, you have chosen to do your system that why (becuse
you didn't know any better). Personaly I've alway only created
just ONE netmail with 1.12 A* and it works fine, it's seen in all
my networks.. because netmail asc list command is g1|g3|g4|g5|g6
..etc.. etc..
OK, that's right (g2|g3...) What I don't get is what address does it
use then? Under Message Base Editor there is only one Network Address allowed. Are you just putting the Primary address? If so why would it
work for a secondary network. If you let it stay 0:0/0 it can't work,
if you put any address in I still don't see why it should work for any others than the Primary network. It seems to me I have seen it work though, when I had things configured wrong.
netmail area and kept it at s255g1 which is my local group. I do not
Guessing you do not want your users to have acces to netmail? Why set it s255?
On 10/01/17, Pequito said the following...
Confused at what some of you are doing creating 10 netmail areas sometimes, 1 netmail area per echo network when just one netmail area will work for all! :)
Cheers!
Pequito
OK, same question that network address do you use or does it just show Local under Network in Message Base Editor? That's the reason I have one for each network. I have hide AKAs so not sure it will work due to that.
Nope there is no need for them to access netmail for any reason really. Unless you can think of a reason? :)
Nope there is no need for them to access netmail for any reason reall Unless you can think of a reason? :)
Well, netmail is the reason that echomail exists in the first place. Netmail was the whole reason to join fidonet back in the day.
You don't fly a plane with out wings. Just seems like keeping a huge piece of bbs history from users.
Just my 2 cents.
Pequito wrote to quickshot <=-
Please let me know how a user would use netmail and for it to benefit them, thats all I am seeking, I do not know so asking. :)
Pequito wrote to quickshot <=-
Please let me know how a user would use netmail and for it to benefit them, thats all I am seeking, I do not know so asking. :)
For private user to user communication. I often use netmail that way. Not all netmail is administrative. Think of it as the FTN equivalent to email. In email (Internet), you can use it to subscribe to and unsubscribe from mailing lists (broadly similar to Areafix requests), or you can use it to send private messages to other email users around the world. Similarly, you can send a netmail to users on other boards.
User to user netmail is a lot less common today, but there's no reason
for it not to be used. I allow my users to send and receive netmail. I consider it a "basic" BBS service for all users.
1.12I don't understand myself, why we have to have a seperated netmail
echo area for each network we have. I works fine, but I just think
there could be a better way. New folks to Mystic always confuse that,
as did I.
It sound like, you have chosen to do your system that why (becuse you didn't >know any better). Personaly I've alway only created just ONE netmail with
A* and it works fine, it's seen in all my networks.. because netmail asc list >command is g1|g3|g4|g5|g6 ..etc.. etc..Just
James as been over the topic many times in post and the docs. Mystic is smart >enough to know _who_ and _what_ person/node +network to send netmail too,
by the echolink route info. Either with just one netmail area for ALL or >creating one for each network. Netmail _does_not_ need changed in any way shape
or form. IMO
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On 10/01/17, Nugax said the following...
Yea, I have always kind of found this different to. Mystic makes you use a regular echomail type forum for each netmail:
I'd love to see g00r00 change email and add a netmail command that determines what network to send and sends or, can parse an email to tell it's a netmail, determine where to send, them send.
you dont have a nodelist compiled in mystic or have route set in the config?
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On 10/01/17, Skuz said the following...that,
I don't understand myself, why we have to have a seperated netmail echo area for each network we have. I works fine, but I just think there could be a better way. New folks to Mystic always confuse
as did I.
It sound like, you have chosen to do your system that why (becuse you didn't know any better). Personaly I've alway only created just ONE netmail with 1.12 A* and it works fine, it's seen in all my networks.. because netmail asc list command is g1|g3|g4|g5|g6 ..etc.. etc..
OK, that's right (g2|g3...) What I don't get is what address does it use then? >Under Message Base Editor there is only one Network Address allowed. Are you >just putting the Primary address? If so why would it work for a secondary >network. If you let it stay 0:0/0 it can't work, if you put any address in I >still don't see why it should work for any others than the Primary network. >It seems to me I have seen it work though, when I had things configured wrong.
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On 10/02/17, Vk3jed said the following...benefit
Pequito wrote to quickshot <=-
Please let me know how a user would use netmail and for it to
them, thats all I am seeking, I do not know so asking. :)
For private user to user communication. I often use netmail that way. Not all netmail is administrative. Think of it as the FTN equivalent to email. In email (Internet), you can use it to subscribe to and unsubscribe from mailing lists (broadly similar to Areafix requests), or you can use it to send private messages to other email users around the world. Similarly, you can send a netmail to users on other boards.
User to user netmail is a lot less common today, but there's no reason for it not to be used. I allow my users to send and receive netmail. I consider it a "basic" BBS service for all users.
Ty that was a much better explanation to what it can be used for vs what I do >use it for. I do not see many bbs's allowing posting when I did check the >netmail areas though but will consider it now that I know it has a broader >range of use.
Thanks Tony!
Cheers!
Pequito
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01 Oct 17 14:46, you wrote to me:know
On 10/01/17, Skuz said the following...
It sound like, you have chosen to do your system that why (becuse
you didn't know any better). Personaly I've alway only created
just ONE netmail with 1.12 A* and it works fine, it's seen in all
my networks.. because netmail asc list command is g1|g3|g4|g5|g6
..etc.. etc..
OK, that's right (g2|g3...) What I don't get is what address does it
use then? Under Message Base Editor there is only one Network Address allowed. Are you just putting the Primary address? If so why would it work for a secondary network. If you let it stay 0:0/0 it can't work,
if you put any address in I still don't see why it should work for any others than the Primary network. It seems to me I have seen it work though, when I had things configured wrong.
I using just the one netmail with my primary address 1:275/91 So yes..
It will work because James has said before that Mystic is smart enough to
whatever Network Zone Number that matches who your sending the netmail to and >replace the node number with your proper AKA network node number .. From your >listed MAIL address in your setup -cfg. I'm in about 6 networks and they have >always got sent to the right network (even thought the primary is listed).
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Does your netmail address contain the Fido netmail address as shown, or does it aka the appropriate netmail for the secondary othernet address skuz?
And is a nodelist required for that to work. You don't have to have a nodelist the way I have it configured.
I using just the one netmail with my primary address 1:275/91 So yes..
It will work because James has said before that Mystic is smart enough
to know whatever Network Zone Number that matches who your sending the netmail to and replace the node number with your proper AKA network node number .. From your listed MAIL address in your setup -cfg. I'm in about
6 networks and they have always got sent to the right network (even thought the primary is listed).
Didn't work for me no matter what way I configured it. Send did work just >fine with separate receive areas for each net, but that's not much help. >Delete the receive areas and I get no receive data from AreaFix. If I need >separate receive areas I might as well have separate everything. I don't >doubt it can be done, just didn't guess the right way after dozens of tries. >Sending does always work that way, but at best I was only able to receive one >network that way. At worst I got no replies at all. Put it back to normal per >Avon's videos (as that always works).
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Exactly why most people don't configure the way you suggested skuz. It only lets you select the network you wish to use for netmail.
Maybe I'm just being too synchronet and not enough mystic lol. Haha.
I'd just honestly prefer all my personal mail in one place rather than
the old way of it being in a echobase, local mail in email, etc.
So yea, I guess I'm saying I'd like a sbbs type interface. But, all good either way.
Does your netmail address contain the Fido netmail address as shown,
or does it aka the appropriate netmail for the secondary othernet
address skuz?
And is a nodelist required for that to work. You don't have to have a nodelist the way I have it configured.
Nugax wrote to All <=-
In my opinion, all personal, direct mail, should come into one place : email or personal mail or whatever. Local mail, netmail, and
eventually email if he adds it. It should all be one place.
Nugax wrote to All <=-
@TZ: 412c
Maybe I'm just being too synchronet and not enough mystic lol. Haha.
I'd just honestly prefer all my personal mail in one place rather than
the old way of it being in a echobase, local mail in email, etc.
So yea, I guess I'm saying I'd like a sbbs type interface. But, all
good either way.
Nugax wrote to All <=-
@TZ: 412c
Does your netmail address contain the Fido netmail address as shown, or does it aka the appropriate netmail for the secondary othernet address skuz?
And is a nodelist required for that to work. You don't have to have a nodelist the way I have it configured.
That works on Synchronet, and is how that package handles FTN netmail >addressing. Mystic uses a more traditional "BBS style" of netmail entry, where
you enter the remote user's name or handle in the To: field, and you enter >there FTN address in the Address: field, which should come up next. Of course,
the netmail messagebase needs to be setup as type "Netmail" for this to work.
system/network FTN board. You can watch the youtube Mystic
Guy Vids also.. because he is a smart man and just about *all* moms like him (: Probably because he doesn't speak with a forked tough and his accent is not fake either ;)
Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-
LOL, trying to run a system with multiple packages aboard gets
confusing. :) thanks!
It has been a while since I have played with my mystic installation but
I could have sworn the way to enter a netmail was to put this in the TO field:
Avon wrote to All <=-
For Netmail to be sent from Mystic you need to set up a message base
and assign it with a 'base type' of Netmail.
If there is no direct match, Mystic will then look at the Route Info
for each Echomail node (starting at the first entry) until it finds
a
match and redirect netmail through that system.
[snip]
So it is important to configure Route Info settings in echonodes you
want mystic to route netmail via. So in the case of your fsxNet HUB
that you poll you will have 21:* in your Route Info field.
Some other observations
1) You don't need a compiled nodelist to send netmail
2) You do need to set Config > Message Base Settings > Force NL Match =
No if you do plan to send to systems that are not known to you in your compiled (or non existent) nodelist.
Also note
[snip]
+ When performing a nodelist search when sending Netmail, Mystic will
now
pop up uplink of a point address, if a point address is entered.
This
allows the user to see where the message is being sent, and it
allows the
"Force NL" option to be enabled without preventing people to netmail point
systems.
[snip]
In my system I choose to run separate netmail bases for the message networks I carry. For me it's easier to keep track of network related stuff that way, but as others have mentioned you can quite happily run
one netmail base and assign that to handle all traffic for all message networks.
; If you want to remap netmail from one user name to another, you
can
; define up to 50 remapped names below using the format
<orig>;<new>
;
forward = sysop;Paul Hayton
forward = system operator;Paul Hayton
forward = Avon;Paul Hayton
[snip]
Don't forget to set up some remaps in your mailin.ini to point your
alias to your real name for your sysop account :) So netmails that come
in addressed to your alias find their way to you.
Personally I try to run netmail using real names, but others may not
wish to, but to my way of thinking I prefer to run netmail to someone using their real name. Each to their own :)
Confused at what some of you are doing creating 10 netmail areas sometimes, 1 netmail area per echo network when just one netmail area
will work for all! :)
On 10/01/17, Pequito said the following...
Confused at what some of you are doing creating 10 netmail areas sometimes, 1 netmail area per echo network when just one netmail area will work for all! :)
Cheers!
Pequito
OK, same question that network address do you use or does it just show Local under Network in Message Base Editor? That's the reason I have one for each network. I have hide AKAs so not sure it will work due to that.
On 10/01/17, quickshot said the following...
Nope there is no need for them to access netmail for any reason Unless you can think of a reason? :)
Well, netmail is the reason that echomail exists in the first place. Netmail was the whole reason to join fidonet back in the day.
You don't fly a plane with out wings. Just seems like keeping a hug piece of bbs history from users.
Just my 2 cents.
Still looking on how they would use it vs how I would use it. Netmail
to me is where we would add/remove and do other administrative functions to the echo networks we connect to.
Please let me know how a user would use netmail and for it to benefit them, thats all I am seeking, I do not know so asking. :)
Didn't work for me no matter what way I configured it. Send did work just fine with separate receive areas for each net, but that's not much help. Delete the receive areas and I get no receive data from AreaFix. If I
need separate receive areas I might as well have separate everything. I don't doubt it can be done, just didn't guess the right way after dozens of tries. Sending does always work that way, but at best I was only able to receive one network that way. At worst I got no replies at all. Put
it back to normal per Avon's videos (as that always works).
What does the routing info line look like for all your nets? I think the issue is in your routing definitions.
What does the routing info line look like for all your nets? I think the issue is in your routing definitions.
On 10/04/17, Gryphon said the following...
What does the routing info line look like for all your nets? I think issue is in your routing definitions.
Found it, it was badip.txt. My local IP was in it because of trying filezilla likely put it in there. I had made this setup quickly and
hadn't put 10.0.* int he goodip.txt and whitelist.txt first, so that
What does the routing info line look like for all your nets? I issue is in your routing definitions.
That's not what I mean by routing info. I'm talking about FTN routing, not internet network routing.
Go to Mystic Config >> EchoMail Nodes >> <uplink> >> Route Info.
I don't understand myself, why we have to have a seperated netmail echo area for each network we have. I works fine, but I just think there
could be a better way. New folks to Mystic always confuse that, as did I.
You don't. You just need one for all networks and Mystic will match the zones automagically for you.
You don't. You just need one for all networks and Mystic will match zones automagically for you.
Never knew this!
Awesome.
On my system I just have one netmail area and it works fine for all networks..
I using just the one netmail with my primary address 1:275/91 So yes..
It will work because James has said before that Mystic is smart enough
to know whatever Network Zone Number that matches who your sending the netmail to and replace the node number with your proper AKA network node number .. From your listed MAIL address in your setup -cfg. I'm in about
6 networks and they have always got sent to the right network (even thought the primary is listed).
Nope there is no need for them to access netmail for any reason really. Unless you can think of a reason? :)
But what do you use at the Export field? Do you export all netmail
to a specific system or would you let it blank?
But what do you use at the Export field? Do you export all netmail
to a specific system or would you let it blank?
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