• Shutting down

    From Kidd Wicked@21:1/169 to All on Sunday, September 18, 2016 10:45:00
    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder if that was
    the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Kidd Wicked on Sunday, September 18, 2016 11:21:00


    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder if that
    was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

    Yes, I have seen mine crash a few times. The way to get around that is run MIS
    in a looping batch file.

    MIS.BAT

    :START
    MIS
    goto START

    That keeps things stable over here.

    - Mark
    ÿÿÿ
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  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to Kidd Wicked on Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:06:00
    On 09/18/16, Kidd Wicked said the following...
    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder if
    that was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

    I did hear about that happening with MIS2 before A31. I rarely have any problems with A31 and MIS only. Do you run both for ssh or rlogin? As noted because the program is made to work for Windows/Linux/Mac it would tend to
    have the same problems under all OS. I suspect g00r00 was making under
    Windows with the other systems on VMs, so there's more troubleshooting
    done under Windows, otherwise they'd be much the same. Did it leave mis.bsy in semaphore?

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  • From Skuz@21:1/105 to Kidd Wicked on Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:36:00
    18 Sep 16 10:45, you wrote to all:

    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down
    for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder
    if that was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

    This has also happened here with both mis and mis2 serveral times. I've always had a goodip.txt .. so do not think that has anything todo with the shutting down. Going on a long MIA hiatus of sometimes weeks, months ever years is the norn for mystic. History has proven that with a lot of bbs packages in the past

    20+ years. In short, simi stable is is better then dropping the hobby altoghter. Hence, we see others move on 2 .. other software.

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  • From Kidd Wicked@21:1/169 to Weatherman on Sunday, September 18, 2016 14:19:00
    On 09/18/16, Weatherman said the following...

    Yes, I have seen mine crash a few times. The way to get around that is run MIS in a looping batch file.

    Thanks, I will do that..

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  • From Kidd Wicked@21:1/169 to bcw142 on Sunday, September 18, 2016 14:29:00
    On 09/18/16, bcw142 said the following...

    troubleshooting done under Windows, otherwise they'd be much the same.
    Did it leave mis.bsy in semaphore?

    it looks like it happened after a telnet session was established but not
    loggin on. I looked at all the timestamps on the logs and it didnt look like anything is going on. It happened with mis not mis2. Never happened with 1.10 a62 which ran for 6 months without crashing out.it hasnt crashed since i removed the goodip.txt file though. we will see..

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  • From Al@21:1/110 to Kidd Wicked on Sunday, September 18, 2016 13:10:00
    Sunday September 18 2016 10:45, you wrote to All:

    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down
    for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder
    if that was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

    I almost always run ./mis -d and never see that. Once in a while when I've made
    changes I run ./mis fullscreen so I can see that what I have done is working as I planned and I have noticed that mis will crash.

    I don't know why that is but running ./mis -d seems more stable to me.

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  • From Captain Obvious@21:1/157 to Kidd Wicked on Sunday, September 18, 2016 16:25:00
    On 09/18/16, Kidd Wicked said the following...

    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder if
    that was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..


    I haven't noticed anything but I run mine from a batch file that calls it
    again just in case.

    @ECHO OFF

    :Mystic
    C:
    CD\Mystic
    MIS

    GOTO MYSTIC


    That way if it crashes it will restart

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    -=>Captain Obvious<=-
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  • From Captain Obvious@21:1/157 to Weatherman on Sunday, September 18, 2016 16:26:00
    Yes, I have seen mine crash a few times. The way to get around that is run MIS in a looping batch file.


    LOL, you got it first.

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  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to Al on Sunday, September 18, 2016 15:40:00

    On 09/18/16, Al said the following...

    Sunday September 18 2016 10:45, you wrote to All:

    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonde if that was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the othe ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

    I almost always run ./mis -d and never see that. Once in a while when
    I've made changes I run ./mis fullscreen so I can see that what I have done is working as I planned and I have noticed that mis will crash.

    I don't know why that is but running ./mis -d seems more stable to me.


    ya but Kid is running Windows so ./mis -d does not work. :P only for us nix folks out there. :)

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  • From Al@21:1/110 to Pequito on Sunday, September 18, 2016 15:18:00
    Sunday September 18 2016 15:40, you wrote to me:

    I don't know why that is but running ./mis -d seems more stable
    to me.

    ya but Kid is running Windows so ./mis -d does not work. :P only for
    us nix folks out there. :)

    Oh, I thought that Android of his was on linux.. ;)

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  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to Al on Sunday, September 18, 2016 16:31:00
    On 09/18/16, Al said the following...

    Sunday September 18 2016 15:40, you wrote to me:

    I don't know why that is but running ./mis -d seems more stable
    to me.

    ya but Kid is running Windows so ./mis -d does not work. :P only for us nix folks out there. :)

    Oh, I thought that Android of his was on linux.. ;)

    Nah hes running windows there is NO version for ANDROID. lol He just changed it so it would read Android.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Kidd Wicked on Monday, September 19, 2016 09:55:00
    Kidd Wicked wrote to All <=-

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    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down
    for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder
    if that was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

    I have had MIS die on rare occasions on my R-Pi setup. Seems to be an onncasional thing across all supported platforms. A looping batch file will sort it in Windows - after MIS terminates, delete the stale semaphore then restart MIS. :)

    On my Pi Linux system, I've taken it a step further. The script that monitors MIS and MIS2 also checks an "upgrade" semaphore. If this is present, MIS/MIS2 are NOT restarted, to prevent corrupting an upgrade that may be in progress. This works in conjunction with 2 other scripts. One is a script that I use to start an upgrade. This terminates MIS/MIS2, sets the semaphore backs up the system, copies the new binaries into place, then issues a reminder to manually complete the rest of the upgrade (i.e. read the docs g00r00 provided).

    The other script that is a part of this system is the script to manually start MIS/MIS2. This script also deletes the "upgrade" semaphore, enabling the auto restart system.

    This way, upgrades are simplified and the automatic restart of the BBS is managed automatically through the upgrade process.

    There's no reason this couldn't be done in Windows. In fact, it could be whittled down to 2 batch files, the main looping batch file that runs the BBS (clear the upgrade semaphore, before entering the main loop to start the BBS). The other batch file would be the upgrade/backup one. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to bcw142 on Monday, September 19, 2016 09:58:00
    bcw142 wrote to Kidd Wicked <=-

    I did hear about that happening with MIS2 before A31. I rarely have any problems with A31 and MIS only. Do you run both for ssh or rlogin? As

    I run both MIS and MIS2. MIS2 crashes more frequently, but MIS has had the occasional crash as well. I had to extend my restart system to include MIS as a result. I run telnet/SSH/rlogin/binkp in MIS2, everything else in MIS. My BBS runs on a Banana Pi.

    noted because the program is made to work for Windows/Linux/Mac it
    would tend to have the same problems under all OS. I suspect g00r00 was making under Windows with the other systems on VMs, so there's more troubleshooting done under Windows, otherwise they'd be much the same.
    Did it leave mis.bsy in semaphore?

    I have seen this issue under Linux and seen reports of it under Windows. It's not frequent, and a looping batch file/shell script will sort it.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Al on Monday, September 19, 2016 10:00:00
    Al wrote to Kidd Wicked <=-

    I don't know why that is but running ./mis -d seems more stable to me.

    I still get the (very) occasional crash with ./mis -d


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  • From Al@21:1/110.1 to Vk3jed on Sunday, September 18, 2016 17:08:00
    Re: Re: Shutting down
    By: Vk3jed to Al on Mon Sep 19 2016 10:00 am

    I don't know why that is but running ./mis -d seems more stable to
    me.

    I still get the (very) occasional crash with ./mis -d

    I have not seen mis crash when daemonized yet. We'll need to figure out what it is that causes that.

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  • From dream master@21:1/163 to Kidd Wicked on Sunday, September 18, 2016 17:15:00
    On 09/18/16, Kidd Wicked said the following...
    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder if
    that was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

    mine has only done it once. it could be a run time error.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Kidd Wicked on Monday, September 19, 2016 13:20:00
    On 09/18/16, Kidd Wicked pondered and said...

    Anyone else having an issue on windows with MiS a31 shutting down for no reason? I added a goodip.txt file and then I noticed it. wonder if
    that was the problem. I looked at the telnet logs and all the other ones also and it didnt show anything fishy..

    No and no... goodip.txt would not be the cause of that...

    Best, Paul

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Al on Monday, September 19, 2016 13:49:00
    Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I have not seen mis crash when daemonized yet. We'll need to figure out what it is that causes that.

    It's not common (can take a month or more), but it happens. I didn't start seeing MIS crashes until g00r00 stopped issuing frequent updates. Prior to then, I suspect the upgrades were simply more frequent than the average time between MIS crashes. :)


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  • From Kidd Wicked@21:1/169 to Pequito on Monday, September 19, 2016 10:50:00
    On 09/18/16, Pequito said the following...

    Nah hes running windows there is NO version for ANDROID. lol He just changed it so it would read Android.

    Did not. I have a super secret copy of mystic that even g00r00 has no
    clue of.. Even mystic has no idea of its existence..:)

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  • From John Riley@21:1/159 to Al on Tuesday, September 20, 2016 17:36:00

    I don't know why that is but running ./mis -d seems more stable to me.

    Same here.
    j

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