I need to vent:
I'm sick of folks who run other bbs styles bashing mystic on Facebook groups. If you are on there you know what I'm talking about,

They run 15-30+ year old software (mostly discontinued) and blame Mystic for the issues. I call bull.

I am running a Fido feed machine on latest Mystic, on headless Linux, and
have no issues at all. I also know how to properly configure it all. I have 2 server mystic install machines, and one customized bbs. I also connect to
most ftn networks and some QW

But, these people need to stop bashing Mystic. We don't bash their shi*tty
BBBS and MBSE. And those two Linux bbs's SUCK. Synchronet is the only one I won't bad mouth if asked because I honestly think it's ok, I just didn't care for it's huge footprint of

But, I'd never say that to them. Because I think the bbs world needs folks running all types of bbs software, old and new. I like it that way. Diversity makes the community great.

These folks need to sit back and relax and work to make it all better not
their horrid implementation of bbs software that even the author gave up. Yea.

I tried almost all bbs types old and new, including MBSE and BBBS, and Mystic even with its bugs was the best choice in my opinion. I didn't chose it
because I was into art, I like running feed servers and ftn and Mystic works great, even for that. Don't

And James, g00r00, the man is always around working to improve and if you
send him a legitimate issue, takes a look at it. That's why I run mystic and
I donate what I can. If you run mystic and have a couple dollars you should throw it his way. It takes a

But they need to stop and I hope they read this.



On 11:32 30/06 , Pepper wrote:

I'm having an issue polling my fidonet Hub. I've seen a few messages >regarding this, but I could not seem to find the solution mentioned.
I only seem to have an issue with the fidonet node. FsXNet and the others poll >just fine.

excerpt from fidopoll.log

Mar 09 20:20:35 Authorization State: 5 HH:0 NH:1
Mar 09 20:20:35 Invalid data frame
Mar 09 20:20:35 Recv: Data 1/36
Mar 09 20:20:35 Remote disconnect
Mar 09 20:20:35 Authorization failed

I'm running 1.12 A33.

-=Pepper=-

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It cut some of my post off. Damn NNTP client. :)

On 02:50 03/07 , Nugax wrote:

I need to vent:
I'm sick of folks who run other bbs styles bashing mystic on Facebook groups. >If you are on there you know what I'm talking about,

They run 15-30+ year old software (mostly discontinued) and blame Mystic for >the issues. I call bull.

I am running a Fido feed machine on latest Mystic, on headless Linux, and >have no issues at all. I also know how to properly configure it all. I have 2 >server mystic install machines, and one customized bbs. I also connect to >most ftn networks and some QW

But, these people need to stop bashing Mystic. We don't bash their shi*tty >BBBS and MBSE. And those two Linux bbs's SUCK. Synchronet is the only one I >won't bad mouth if asked because I honestly think it's ok, I just didn't care >for it's huge footprint of

But, I'd never say that to them. Because I think the bbs world needs folks >running all types of bbs software, old and new. I like it that way. Diversity >makes the community great.

These folks need to sit back and relax and work to make it all better not >their horrid implementation of bbs software that even the author gave up.

Yea.

I tried almost all bbs types old and new, including MBSE and BBBS, and Mystic >even with its bugs was the best choice in my opinion. I didn't chose it >because I was into art, I like running feed servers and ftn and Mystic works >great, even for that. Don't

And James, g00r00, the man is always around working to improve and if you >send him a legitimate issue, takes a look at it. That's why I run mystic and >I donate what I can. If you run mystic and have a couple dollars you should >throw it his way. It takes a

But they need to stop and I hope they read this.

On 11:32 30/06 , Pepper wrote:

I'm having an issue polling my fidonet Hub. I've seen a few messages >>regarding this, but I could not seem to find the solution mentioned.
I only seem to have an issue with the fidonet node. FsXNet and the others poll
just fine.

excerpt from fidopoll.log

Mar 09 20:20:35 Authorization State: 5 HH:0 NH:1
Mar 09 20:20:35 Invalid data frame
Mar 09 20:20:35 Recv: Data 1/36
Mar 09 20:20:35 Remote disconnect
Mar 09 20:20:35 Authorization failed

I'm running 1.12 A33.

-=Pepper=-

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Mystic even with its bugs was the best choice in my opinion. I didn't chose it because I was into art, I like running feed servers and ftn and Mystic works great, even for that. Don't

As with you, I too have tried a sickening amount of different BBS software since I started my own BBS since 1982/3. All of them had their Strong and
Weak points... ALL of them. Some could do a lot of things out of the box, others were good due to a huge assortment of Add-Ons and Utils. I've even tried Ele BBS, Virtual Advanced and even Synchronet. And even those have
their Strong and Weak Points. And yes, Mystic BBS also has it's Strong/Weak points and limitations.

I would not bash any other software because I believe it's a Sysops "Personal Choice" what software they use. Hell, I even still like to run RYBBS and Spitfire from time to time. Are they Great BBS packages, Yes and No.

If someone wants to run a Wildcat or RBBS or WWIV, Who Cares? It's their choice and I am not one to criticize anyone for their choice of software (Unless it's Citadel... UGH!) <Just Kidding>... Hey, To Each Their Own,
Right?

But listen, people will Bash things, Democrat, Republican, Operating System, Machine Type, Hat or No Hat, Religion etc... I guess sometimes people just
need something to complain or bitch about.

To those that do nag on "Other Peoples Choices", I say to them Get a Life and stop worrying about what others are doing. Unless it is directly hindering
my life or interfering with me in some way, I don't care what others do. If
it is not bringing harm to someone or something, then what do I care if you want to run a BBS written in Basic for the Commodore 64 or whatever... if
it's a BBS, and it serves some purpose... I simply do not care what they run....

Just sayin'

----=[ Gary Crunk * Another F-ing BBS * anotherbbs.bbsindex.com ]=----

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A34 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Another F-ing BBS (21:2/105)

* An ongoing debate between Nugax and All rages on ...

I need to vent:

Is this really the place for this? {shaking head}


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Spitfire rocks! What you talking about! Registered owner here haha

On 02:54 03/07 , garycrunk wrote:

I tried almost all bbs types old and new, including MBSE and BBBS, and Mystic even with its bugs was the best choice in my opinion. I didn't chose it because I was into art, I like running feed servers and ftn and Mystic works great, even for that. Don't

As with you, I too have tried a sickening amount of different BBS software >since I started my own BBS since 1982/3. All of them had their Strong and >Weak points... ALL of them. Some could do a lot of things out of the box, >others were good due to a huge assortment of Add-Ons and Utils. I've even >tried Ele BBS, Virtual Advanced and even Synchronet. And even those have >their Strong and Weak Points. And yes, Mystic BBS also has it's Strong/Weak >points and limitations.

I would not bash any other software because I believe it's a Sysops "Personal >Choice" what software they use. Hell, I even still like to run RYBBS and >Spitfire from time to time. Are they Great BBS packages, Yes and No.

If someone wants to run a Wildcat or RBBS or WWIV, Who Cares? It's their >choice and I am not one to criticize anyone for their choice of software >(Unless it's Citadel... UGH!) <Just Kidding>... Hey, To Each Their Own, >Right?

But listen, people will Bash things, Democrat, Republican, Operating System, >Machine Type, Hat or No Hat, Religion etc... I guess sometimes people just >need something to complain or bitch about.

To those that do nag on "Other Peoples Choices", I say to them Get a Life and >stop worrying about what others are doing. Unless it is directly hindering >my life or interfering with me in some way, I don't care what others do. If >it is not bringing harm to someone or something, then what do I care if you >want to run a BBS written in Basic for the Commodore 64 or whatever... if >it's a BBS, and it serves some purpose... I simply do not care what they >run....

Just sayin'

----=[ Gary Crunk * Another F-ing BBS * anotherbbs.bbsindex.com ]=----

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Probably not

On 05:10 03/07 , Cmech wrote:

* An ongoing debate between Nugax and All rages on ...

I need to vent:

Is this really the place for this? {shaking head}

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Spitfire rocks! What you talking about! Registered owner here haha

Between 1985 and 19?? I too was a registered Spitfire BBS. I ran a 3 line board in Germany, Upstate NY and Korea. I've since lost/misplaced the
original disks I had so I no longer have my Registered version. :(

I do like Spitfire a lot... Very versatile and with the Plethra of Add-ons
and Utils, it could to a TON of things... I just had to switch to Mystic because I did lose my Registration for SF...

Ah Binkley, X00, BNU and a Massive SF.BAT file.... Those were the days...

----=[ Gary Crunk * Another F-ing BBS * anotherbbs.bbsindex.com ]=----

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A34 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Another F-ing BBS (21:2/105)

Hi Nugax,

I'm sick of folks who run other bbs styles bashing mystic on

Facebook Nu> groups. If you are on there you know what I'm talking about,

Easy enough : I don't do any facebook stuff, and they're completely silent to me :)

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It is a shame. The best thing to do is ignore ignorant people like that who
are just spewing negativity.
It would be nice if they realize we, (BBS Sysops and enthusiasts), are
stronger united then divided (Not to sound cliche but it's true!). In the end...whatever...all you can do is let them act like little brats and ignore them.

--Message Origin: Redwood Shire BBS (47.208.62.230:23) Halcyon, Sysop.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A33 (Windows/32)
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On Jul 3rd 10:53 pm Nugax said...

I'm sick of folks who run other bbs styles bashing mystic on Facebook
If you are on there you know what I'm talking about,

I quit BBS facebook groups a while back, wasn't really my cup of tea. So I don't really know what mystic bashing you're talking about.

From what I understand mystic has had problems in the past, and I guess some people don't realize that (as far as I know) have been fixed (or don't want to realize).

People are like that. If your circle uses apple macs and you buy a PC .... or the referees are always in favor of the other team etc.

I don't think BBBS or MBSE are very good either, but I realize that some people
like them, it's just not a fit for me (as mystic is not either).

Anyway, I know you're just venting, but don't let it bother you. It's far less stressful to not care about others shortcomings, and bashing anything because it's different is a shortcoming :)

Andrew





--- ENiGMA 1/2 v0.0.6-alpha (Linux; x64; 6.11.0)
* Origin: Exotica - exoticabbs.com:8888 (21:1/125)

Nugax wrote to All <=-

I'm sick of folks who run other bbs styles bashing mystic on Facebook groups. If you are on there you know what I'm talking about,

I don't know what FB groups you're talking about, but well said. I run both Mystic and Synchronet, and like them both for different reasons. Wish I could have a combination of both as my one BBS. :)

Mystic and Synchronet (among others) are among the actively maintained packages, which would make them prime candidates for use in my book, over "abandonware", and both developers are readily accessible in echomail. These are not the only BBS packages that are actively supported, just probably the two most well known. :)


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Hello Vk3jed,

I'm sick of folks who run other bbs styles bashing mystic on Facebook
groups. If you are on there you know what I'm talking about,

I don't know what FB groups you're talking about, but well said. I run both
Mystic and Synchronet, and like them both for different reasons. Wish I could
have a combination of both as my one BBS. :)

I don't have first hand knowledge of the FB group or the particular discussion in question.

Mystic and Synchronet (among others) are among the actively maintained packages, which would make them prime candidates for use in my book, over "abandonware", and both developers are readily accessible in echomail. These are not the only BBS packages that are actively supported, just probably the two most well known. :)

I would have to agree. I have used both Mystic as well as Synchronet and also BBBS. I have all three installed here. Based upon my use of the software and my interaction with the authors they are IMHO three of the most supported BBS packages out there. Non of them are perfect and I suspect never will be. All have positive as well as negative things about them. But what is IMHO the best
feature about each is that the author cares about their software.
I have interacted with all three authors and each has expressed an interest in user comments and suggestions. And responds to those users with problems or concerns. That ability is not always that easy to maintain when there are those
whose first impulse is to bash or criticize software and/or the software author. My first impulse is to ignore them and focus my attention on more positive things.


Jeff


--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-3
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Jeff Smith wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I would have to agree. I have used both Mystic as well as Synchronet
and also BBBS. I have all three installed here. Based upon my use of

I haven't used BBBS myself, so I can't comment on it. I am currently running a Mystic system and a Synchronet system. I like Synchronet for messaging, and Mystic for file management (with its working TIC implementation - Synchronet has only got that ability in the dev version, which I haven't upgraded to).

the software and my interaction with the authors they are IMHO three
of the most supported BBS packages out there. Non of them are perfect
and I suspect never will be. All have positive as well as negative
things about them. But what is IMHO the best

I agree on both counts. There are things I like about each package and things that could be improved (for me).

feature about each is that the author cares about their software.
I have interacted with all three authors and each has expressed an interest in user comments and suggestions. And responds to those users with problems or concerns. That ability is not always that easy to maintain when there are those

I concur for Mystic and Synchronet, at least. In both cases, the authors are responsive (when life permits!), and take on board suggestions. That's all we as sysops can ask of them.

whose first impulse is to bash or criticize software and/or the
software author. My first impulse is to ignore them and focus my
attention on more positive things.

Yes, that behaviour just spoils things for everyone.

If I was to have an ideal BBS package, it would have:

Firstly, the traditional stuff - files, messages, FTN, QWK, NNTP networking, QWK and Bluewave offline mail support. I know some authors think QWK is enough, but even with enhancements like QWKE and Synchronet's own extensions (publicly documented), Bluewave's netmail support is still superior, try replying to a netmail from someone with a long name using QWKE on a Synchronet board. :/

On the Internet side, full support for SMTP and POP/IMAP (I'm am IMAP guy), NNTP server, and web access, with a forum style interface for messaging (ECWeb v4 comes close on Synchronet). I also make heavy use of Synchronet's mailing list support.

Easy customisation - this is where Mystic wins hands down. It's easier to customise most menus on Mystic than on Synchronet.

When it comes to doors, the biggest challenge is not the BBS, but the underlying OS. For those still on DOS, it's easy, and Win32 sysops have it fairly straightforward. When you get to Linux i386 or even x86_64, it's a bit more fiddly but not too bad. However, platforms like Win64 and Linux/ARM present bigger challenges for older DOS doors. I happen to prefer systems like the Pi for their miserly power consumption, so I bear the brunt of that issue. Door servers are definitely a plus! :)


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On Tuesday, July 4th Vk3jed was heard saying...

(publicly documented), Bluewave's netmail support is still superior, try replying to a netmail from someone with a long name using QWKE on a Synchronet

Sorry to bud in here -- can you elaborate on what issues you have/what you want
out of NetMail? I'm about to implement it in ENiGMA (only support EchoMail currently) and want to get it right :)



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NuSkooler wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Sorry to bud in here -- can you elaborate on what issues you have/what
you want
out of NetMail? I'm about to implement it in ENiGMA (only support EchoMail currently) and want to get it right :)

This is netmail in offline readers. QWK has no dedicated netmail field, and traditionally, you can't write netmail in QWK. Some systems, such as Synchronet have various workarounds, which work to some extent. Synchronet's workaround puts the destination address in the To: field, which works, unless the user has a long name, in which case, the FTN address gets cut off.

The Bluewave format supports full offline netmail, with separate username and address fields, so the solution is simple. Offer Bluewave as an offline option for offline mail.

Online, I have no issues with netmail in either Synchronet or Mystic.

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Spitfire rocks! What you talking about! Registered owner here haha

bro, that was the first bbs software i got my hands on in 1990 haha...
it was so popular on the pd board scene here in 602.

i don't think it even matters what bbs software you run, and anyone who
is bashing another bbs software and sysop in 2017 is obviously trying to compensate for something. our scene is small enough as it is... why try to fragment or make it smaller man.

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Easy enough : I don't do any facebook stuff, and they're completely
silent to me :)

hah, nice! i'm in the 1% that does not have a facebook account and never will. tell me this, if you use your real name on facebook, how many words
does it take on a public post to lose your job? let that sink in hehehe.

but yeah, once i heard stories from my mom about the political/religions/family arguments on there, i knew it wasn't for me. i do have a myspace account (under a pseudonym of course) that i login to every
year or two. it's still frozen in time ~2007 =)

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I would have to agree. I have used both Mystic as well as Synchronet and also BBBS. I have all three installed here. Based upon my use of the software and my interaction with the authors they are IMHO three of the most supported BBS packages out there. Non of them are perfect and I suspect never will be. All have positive as well as negative things

I just went through this with ham radios, and there is no one ham radio
to rule them all. They all have +/-'s and you need to make a personal
choice. And honestly why limit yourself to just one... Several well known 'l33t boards have alternate logins =)

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Hello Darkwing,

Non of them are perfect and I
suspect never will be. All have positive as well as negative things

I just went through this with ham radios, and there is no one ham radio
to rule them all. They all have +/-'s and you need to make a personal choice.

Here I have Icom, Yasue, and Kenwood. Not including a few off brand HT's.

As with BBS's I haven't found just one rig that did everything and had everything.The important thing IMHO is to look and evaluate and make one's choice which one serves one's needs the best.


Jeff

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Jeff Smith wrote to Darkwing <=-

I just went through this with ham radios, and there is no one ham radio
to rule them all. They all have +/-'s and you need to make a personal choice.

Here I have Icom, Yasue, and Kenwood. Not including a few off brand
HT's.

Same here. In HTs, I have Icom and Hytera (the latter are DMR capable), in ham radio in general, I have a mix of Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood as well. :)

As with BBS's I haven't found just one rig that did everything and had everything.The important thing IMHO is to look and evaluate and make
one's choice which one serves one's needs the best.

Indeed, shop around carefully and choose wisely what suits your purposes. :)


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On 07/07/17, Vk3jed said the following...

Here I have Icom, Yasue, and Kenwood. Not including a few off brand HT's

Same here. In HTs, I have Icom and Hytera (the latter are DMR capable), in ham radio in general, I have a mix of Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood as well. :)

Well, since we're doing "show and tell", I'll show you mine! I have a
Kenwood TS-940S and a Yaesu FT-900 for HF and a couple of ADI mobiles for 2 mtrs.

Thanks!
Orbitman (Allen)
telnet://orbitbbs.ddns.net:7210
Opp, Alabama, USA

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Orbitman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Well, since we're doing "show and tell", I'll show you mine! I have a Kenwood TS-940S and a Yaesu FT-900 for HF and a couple of ADI mobiles
for 2 mtrs.

In detail, the HTs are 2 x Hytera PD362, Icom IC-T81A, Icom 91AD.

In the car - Yaesu FT-8900, Icom IC-7000, along with a GME TX3510 (UHF CB) and a Uniden BC396XT trunking scanner (used for monitoring fire dispatch).

In the shack - Icom IC-2720, Kenwood TM-G707A, Yaesy FT-480R, Yaesu FT-736R, Icom IC-745, Icom IC-7000 (needs repair)

Additional RF gear - Wintal STB14HD set top box (ATV receiver), 1250 MHz FMTV transmitter, analog satellite TV receiver (FMTV Tx monitor), SharkRF OpenSpot. There's also an EchoIRLP node/remote base system, which currently controls the FT-736R.

There I've shown everything (I think). ;)


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political/religions/family arguments on there, i knew it wasn't for me.
i do have a myspace account (under a pseudonym of course) that i login

I think that's the way to go. I also don't (& won't) have a fb account. Only participating in twitter (professional objective, technology monitoring,
etc), nothing else. It's a waste of time and energy :)

We're in the same rebel band then :)

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On 07/06/17, Darkwing said the following...

I just went through this with ham radios, and there is no one ham radio to rule them all. They all have +/-'s and you need to make a personal choice. And honestly why limit yourself to just one...

I disagree... the Elecraft K3 is the chosen one. :-)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Alcoholiday / Est. 1995 / alco.bbs.io (21:1/113)

I disagree... the Elecraft K3 is the chosen one. :-)

Gifts mere mortals could only dream of possessing.
How grand it must be, to be the chosen one.

²ß±ß° {tHE.pIRATE.kING} ÜßÛßÜ
ß²Ü°ß HOIST THE COLOURS ßÛÜÛß
þþþ NEVER SHALL WE DIE. ÝÝÞ

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A34 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: ACiD Underworld // Tantoque Victrix (21:1/188)

Hello all. Something weird is happening on my system with A34 . When I run MUTIL it keeps saying "Waiting for busy nodes" even though I do a FIDOPOLL KILLBUSY. Any ideas what may be wrong? Thanks.

Hello all. Something weird is happening on my system with A34 . When I run MUTIL it keeps saying "Waiting for busy nodes" even though I do a FIDOPOLL KILLBUSY. Any ideas what may be wrong? Thanks.

Orbitman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I love the community that has sprung up here. Mystic is certainly a
major centre of gravity, Paul and fsxnet is another. Yes, Synchronet
and Dove-Net is also quite a good community, I have a leg in both camps.

Hear, hear! I'll raise my glass to that!

Cheers! :)


... In comparison, there's no comparison.
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Not going to quote, you wrote a lot g00r00.

You response was exactly what I was thinking and why i wrote this.

I have tried every BBS package out there. I honestly havent found a BBS developer nor network (fsxnet) that cares about its users like Mystic.

So, when I see a couple of MBSE users whom I'm not going to name, bash
Mystic, it kind of gets under my skin. I dont even care if Mystic has issues, at least james honestly looks into our issues and if it is an issue he fixes it. All for free. I have donated to him and Mystic, and will continue to do
so. I believe BBS's are returning, and I think Mystic (and Syncronet) lead
the pack.

I know folks get upset, but the particular facebook user i was talking about uses MBSE. I have nothing against MBSE. Probably a fine BBS. but, dont bash Mystic the way he did. AND.. MBSE doesnt even freaking seperate Message
groups and bases. I mean you suck MBSE. You piggyback off linux's telnet
server too. I drank a few beers too James. lol.

The particular post also bashed Jame's implementation of standards.
I call busllshit. I run Cyber-net and a Fidonet hub with Mystic. I have every type of BBS you can imagine and few problems. And I know James is looking at increasing Mystic's ability to run as a FTN server.

Oh well. Haters gonna hate. :)

And fsxNet and Paul are great too - fsxNet is probably one of the best
networks out there (next to CyberNet (hehe))



-Nugax

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A34 (Linux/64)
* Origin: -=The ByteXchange BBS : bbs.thebytexchange.com=- (21:1/107)

Hello Nugax,

You response was exactly what I was thinking and why i wrote this.

I also agree with g00r00's sentiments.

I have tried every BBS package out there. I honestly havent found a BBS developer nor network (fsxnet) that cares about its users like Mystic.

I would also have to agree.

So, when I see a couple of MBSE users whom I'm not going to name, bash Mystic, it kind of gets under my skin.

Here we differ somewhat. I would tend to look at those people as individuals regardless of what BBS software that they use. I feel that there are going to be people that feel the necessity to be overly critical. And are not content unless they can create conflict between people or software packages.

I dont even care if Mystic has issues,

IMHO, all BBS software has some degree of issues. The key factor as I see it
is whether the software author has the desire to develop their software AND the
interest and the ability to listen to the users of their software and use that
input in future development of said software. James has IMHO clearly shown to have that interest and ability.

at least james honestly looks into our issues and if it is an issue he fixes it. All for free. I have donated to him and Mystic, and will continue to do so. I believe BBS's are returning, and I think Mystic (and Syncronet) lead the pack.

There are several BBS packages that are decent in their functionality and are actively be supported and developed. Several seem to accomplish the same/similar tasks in a slightly different manner though. That is not to say or
suggest that one does a given task better or worse. Of course... That doesn't preclude those with a critical mindset to form and express their own opinions.

I know folks get upset, but the particular facebook user i was talking about uses MBSE.

Again, why should it matter what BBS that he uses? MBSE isn't forming the critical opinion. The BBS SysOp is.

I have nothing against MBSE. Probably a fine BBS. but, dont bash
Mystic the way he did. AND..

I have installed and used MBSE. The problems that I had were not the fault of the MBSE software. They were a product of my own creation due to my (At the time) ignorance of how Linux worked. These days all the BBS's that are running
here run on 64b Linux machines. And they include BBBS, Mystic, and Synchronet.

[...]

Oh well. Haters gonna hate. :)

This a sadly the current reality of the matter.

And fsxNet and Paul are great too - fsxNet is probably one of the best networks out there (next to CyberNet (hehe))

So... Your saying CybetNet is better??? <g>


Jeff

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-3
* Origin: FsxNet: The Ouija Board - bbs.ouijabrd.net (21:1/128)

Bugs are a integral part of software development! Remember that! It makes the software better, actually!

Actual saying from CEO at Quest Software when I worked there! :)



On 15:16 09/07 , Vk3jed wrote:

apam wrote to g00r00 <=-

Yes, all software does have bugs. Mine especially :P

Haha, good thing I don't write BBS software then. ;)

... The easy way is always mined.
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--- Mystic BBS/NNTP v1.12 A34 (Linux/64)
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Of course I'm saying cyber-net is better (grin).

No fsxnet is awesome. And, everything you said is true.

All bbs packages are fine. You don't see me bashing them. I think they all
have their strengths and weaknesses.

I just got tired because I've seen several people writing nasty stuff about mystic and little sly comments about how mystic always tends to have issues with other bbs software. All software had/has issues. I have installs of
BBBS, MBSE, Enigma, Maximus, s

But I run mystic for my bbs.

I don't care.
I probably should have never wrote this thread and just kept mouth shut.


On 14:35 14/07 , Jeff Smith wrote:

Hello Nugax,

You response was exactly what I was thinking and why i wrote this.

I also agree with g00r00's sentiments.

I have tried every BBS package out there. I honestly havent found a BBS
developer nor network (fsxnet) that cares about its users like Mystic.

I would also have to agree.

So, when I see a couple of MBSE users whom I'm not going to name, bash
Mystic, it kind of gets under my skin.

Here we differ somewhat. I would tend to look at those people as individuals >regardless of what BBS software that they use. I feel that there are going to >be people that feel the necessity to be overly critical. And are not content >unless they can create conflict between people or software packages.

I dont even care if Mystic has issues,

IMHO, all BBS software has some degree of issues. The key factor as I see it >is whether the software author has the desire to develop their software AND the
interest and the ability to listen to the users of their software and use

that

input in future development of said software. James has IMHO clearly shown to
have that interest and ability.

at least james honestly looks into our issues and if it is an issue he fixes >> it. All for free. I have donated to him and Mystic, and will continue to do >> so. I believe BBS's are returning, and I think Mystic (and Syncronet) lead >> the pack.

There are several BBS packages that are decent in their functionality and are >actively be supported and developed. Several seem to accomplish the >same/similar tasks in a slightly different manner though. That is not to say or
suggest that one does a given task better or worse. Of course... That doesn't
preclude those with a critical mindset to form and express their own opinions.

I know folks get upset, but the particular facebook user i was talking about >> uses MBSE.

Again, why should it matter what BBS that he uses? MBSE isn't forming the >critical opinion. The BBS SysOp is.

I have nothing against MBSE. Probably a fine BBS. but, dont bash
Mystic the way he did. AND..

I have installed and used MBSE. The problems that I had were not the fault of >the MBSE software. They were a product of my own creation due to my (At the >time) ignorance of how Linux worked. These days all the BBS's that are running
here run on 64b Linux machines. And they include BBBS, Mystic, and

Synchronet.

[...]

Oh well. Haters gonna hate. :)

This a sadly the current reality of the matter.

And fsxNet and Paul are great too - fsxNet is probably one of the best
networks out there (next to CyberNet (hehe))

So... Your saying CybetNet is better??? <g>

Jeff

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--- Mystic BBS/NNTP v1.12 A34 (Linux/64)
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I probably should have never wrote this thread and just kept mouth shut.

Not at all! I think it is a good topic.

No fsxnet is awesome. And, everything you said is true.

Agreed!

All bbs packages are fine. You don't see me bashing them. I think they
all have their strengths and weaknesses.

Total Agreement

----=[ Gary Crunk * Another F-ing BBS * anotherbbs.bbsindex.com ]=----

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A34 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Another F-ing BBS (21:2/105)

Nugax wrote to All <=-

@TZ: 412c
Bugs are a integral part of software development! Remember that! It
makes the software better, actually!

Actual saying from CEO at Quest Software when I worked there! :)

In the long term, bugs can improve software. I've come up with better ideas while fixing bugs. :)


... I'm an optimist... I'm positive things are going to go wrong. ;)
--- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
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Hello Vk3jed,

Bugs are a integral part of software development! Remember that! It
makes the software better, actually!
Actual saying from CEO at Quest Software when I worked there! :)

In the long term, bugs can improve software. I've come up with better ideas while fixing bugs. :)

Considering that we are all human and non of us being perfect. Bugs/flaws are a natural thing when creating something. We often teach ourselves better and better ways of doing something. I know over the years I have found many ways of
NOT to do something. <g> I am always willing to learn a better way to accomplish a particular task.

Writing code is a good example of that learning process.


Jeff

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-3
* Origin: FsxNet: The Ouija Board - bbs.ouijabrd.net (21:1/128)

On Saturday, July 15th Nugax was heard saying...

I just got tired because I've seen several people writing nasty stuff about
mystic and little sly comments about how mystic always tends to have issues
with other bbs software. All software had/has issues. I have installs of

People must not remember BBS's, front ends, modems, general format issues, etc.
from back in the day very well... most things "just work" now, including BBS's.




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The particular post also bashed Jame's implementation of standards.
I call busllshit. I run Cyber-net and a Fidonet hub with Mystic. I have every type of BBS you can imagine and few problems. And I know James is looking at increasing Mystic's ability to run as a FTN server.

Feel free to ask this person what those violations of standards are, or any other thing. You will likely get nothing of validity from them.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

about mystic and little sly comments about how mystic always tends to
have issues with other bbs software. All software had/has issues. I have installs of BBBS, MBSE, Enigma, Maximus, s

It really doesn't though. What issues? Tell them to name one so it can be fixed...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

It really doesn't though. What issues? Tell them to name one so it can be fixed...

There is one thing that I (and several others) would love to see working when you get a chance.

Enabling binary mode on telnet from the Mystic Shuttle menu before the outbound
telnet. I believe this could get it working:

"\xFF\xFB\x00" (minus the quotes).

For people running Mystic with the shuttle and having another BBS behind it, Zmodem (binary) transfers all error out/abort. It should be a matter of enabling binary telnet mode to get that working.

That would be very cool..

- Mark
ÿÿÿ
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If you look at the spam in FIDOTEST from Ignatius who is trying to hack Renegade code. He has like 100 messages with no MSGID, REPLY, most have
no origin or tear or anything that FTN fucking requires, and he has no idea what is or isn't needed... and those same people SAY NOTHING...

Sorry, I did not see this message before. I'm not trying to "hack" Renegade. I'm trying to port it to Linux, and have pretty much accomplished that. The only work (or is that considered "hacking" to you?) that needs to be done is the MCI routines. And also, doesn't FIDOTEST exist to "test" messages in the first place? Maybe you need to back off on the alcohol, it's obviously affecting your judgement. And how long have you been working on Mystic now?
20+ years?

ignatius

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