• [ANSI] MUTIL

    From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Saturday, June 24, 2017 08:20:14
    Suggestion when you run this from a command prompt can you also enable a VER switch to allow us to confirm we have the correct one running.

    Especially useful at times of changing them out as we debug :)

    Also on the processing output screen when you call MUTIL from the command
    line I can see

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    It would be good to add the alpha number there too :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Friday, June 23, 2017 16:40:12
    It would be good to add the alpha number there too :)

    The only reason it doesn't show the alpha there is just because it didn't fit on the screen. :)

    I'll have to see if I can get it fixed up to allow space for the alpha
    version and add in the -ver too.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Saturday, June 24, 2017 10:24:54
    On 06/23/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

    The only reason it doesn't show the alpha there is just because it
    didn't fit on the screen. :)

    I'll have to see if I can get it fixed up to allow space for the alpha version and add in the -ver too.

    Ah, OK yep that can be a prob for sure :) Thanks for looking in to this.

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Avon on Friday, June 23, 2017 20:19:25
    There is a new MUTIL that should hopefully fix the bad CRC generation in the same place:

    www.mysticbbs.com/downloads/mutil.rar

    This is for Win32.

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Sunday, June 25, 2017 13:28:18
    On 06/23/17, g00r00 said the following...

    There is a new MUTIL that should hopefully fix the bad CRC generation in the same place:

    www.mysticbbs.com/downloads/mutil.rar

    This is for Win32.

    Just an FYI, I grabbed this version of mutil, and ran a test on a mock
    network that I have set up here. The files hatched properly, and were
    imported by Mystic A32(Linux) with no problems...


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    The sparrows are flying again...

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  • From Necromaster@21:1/122 to All on Friday, August 16, 2019 13:40:03
    Hello all, I am having a weird issue. I run both a BBS and network hub with latest version of Mystic. On the Hub system when MUTIL is ran is stays stuck waiting on busy nodes and never continues. I had to write a small script
    that does Fidopoll Kilbusy All every 10 seconds and then this lets mutil continue. Any idea what may be wrong? Thanks.

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to Necromaster on Friday, August 16, 2019 20:47:26
    On 16 Aug 2019, Necromaster said the following...

    Hello all, I am having a weird issue. I run both a BBS and network hub with latest version of Mystic. On the Hub system when MUTIL is ran is stays stuck waiting on busy nodes and never continues. I had to write a small script that does Fidopoll Kilbusy All every 10 seconds and then
    this lets mutil continue. Any idea what may be wrong? Thanks.

    Hey Necro =)

    Are you running Mystic as root user or a non root user? Windows or Linux?
    I can't say I have had this issue and I run it as root user on Ubuntu 18.04
    LTS server.

    I don't suppose you managed to capture the timestamp of the .bsy files and checked the logs to see what happened just prior to the .bsy files being created?

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  • From Necromaster@21:1/122 to MeaTLoTioN on Saturday, August 17, 2019 08:52:25
    Hey Necro =)

    Are you running Mystic as root user or a non root user? Windows or Linux? I can't say I have had this issue and I run it as root user on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS server.

    Hello my friend. I am running it under Windows 10 64 bit.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Necromaster on Sunday, August 18, 2019 14:41:50
    On 16 Aug 2019 at 01:40p, Necromaster pondered and said...

    Hello all, I am having a weird issue. I run both a BBS and network hub with latest version of Mystic. On the Hub system when MUTIL is ran is stays stuck waiting on busy nodes and never continues. I had to write a small script that does Fidopoll Kilbusy All every 10 seconds and then
    this lets mutil continue. Any idea what may be wrong? Thanks.

    Hi there

    So if you shut MIS and just run MUTIL you see this issue right?
    Is it when you run either the mailin.ini or mailout.ini or just happens for
    one ini?

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  • From Necromaster@21:1/122 to Avon on Monday, August 19, 2019 08:12:43

    Hi there

    So if you shut MIS and just run MUTIL you see this issue right?
    Is it when you run either the mailin.ini or mailout.ini or just happens for one ini?


    It happens anytime MUTIL is ran. It was working just fine before. Thanks

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Necromaster on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:18:17
    On 19 Aug 2019 at 08:12a, Necromaster pondered and said...

    It happens anytime MUTIL is ran. It was working just fine before.
    Thanks

    My hunch is that it's a corrupted echomail node.

    I'd take a backup then..

    Shutter the MIS server
    Run fidopoll killbusy all
    Perhaps even clear out anything in echomail in and echomail out dirs to start fresh.
    Revisit your echomail nodes... look for the most recent nodes either updated
    by you or created by you. Delete them one at a time starting from most
    recently added/modded and going back from there... in between each deletion
    try running MUTIL to see what happens.
    If you get a BSY lockup, let that clear, run Fidopoll killbusy all and repeat the next echonode deletion.
    This may sound drastic (and it is) but my guess is that it's one of your echonodes causing this issue.

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Monday, August 19, 2019 20:46:23
    I'm gonna throw a monkeywrench into the fray.. When Necro's BBS polls my
    board, I get a authentication failure a password issue, but when I poll him
    the networks flow fine. I have tried turning off Cram5 no difference.. Is it possible like you (Avon) said there is some corruption??

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 14:15:20
    On 19 Aug 2019 at 08:46p, Bucko pondered and said...

    I'm gonna throw a monkeywrench into the fray.. When Necro's BBS polls my board, I get a authentication failure a password issue, but when I poll him the networks flow fine. I have tried turning off Cram5 no
    difference.. Is it possible like you (Avon) said there is some corruption??

    Slim but possible.. but I'd say very unlikely to be related.

    If you get an error what is it?

    The probs you describe could be things like presenting the incorrect
    password or incorrect domain name that's been incorrectly spelled..
    You would need to review what yours and Carlos's setting were.
    Also check you're both using passwords that are 8 chars or less and ideally keep case to uppercase and use just letters and or numbers

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  • From Necromaster@21:1/122 to Avon on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:20:59
    My hunch is that it's a corrupted echomail node.

    I'd take a backup then..


    Thanks, I will try from my back up.

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 21:10:18
    On 20 Aug 2019, Avon said the following...


    Slim but possible.. but I'd say very unlikely to be related.

    If you get an error what is it?

    The probs you describe could be things like presenting the incorrect password or incorrect domain name that's been incorrectly spelled..
    You would need to review what yours and Carlos's setting were.
    Also check you're both using passwords that are 8 chars or less and ideally keep case to uppercase and use just letters and or numbers


    My board calls through just fine to him.. It's weird, I have to check my logs but I think his board connected fine to me today.. It's a weird one but I thought I would throw that out there... :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 14:18:05
    On 20 Aug 2019 at 09:10p, Bucko pondered and said...

    My board calls through just fine to him.. It's weird, I have to check my logs but I think his board connected fine to me today.. It's a weird one but I thought I would throw that out there... :)

    I think if you can poll him, get a secure connection and see packets exchange in your fidopoll logs then it would show passwords are fine and the basics of the usual handshaking are also ok.

    If he polls you can things fail, I'd check to see if your MIS is enforcing
    MD5 secure connects, perhaps that's it?

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 20:25:55
    On 21 Aug 2019, Avon said the following...


    I think if you can poll him, get a secure connection and see packets exchange in your fidopoll logs then it would show passwords are fine and the basics of the usual handshaking are also ok.

    If he polls you can things fail, I'd check to see if your MIS is
    enforcing MD5 secure connects, perhaps that's it?

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    I'll give that a try and check logs tomorrow...

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Necromaster on Monday, August 10, 2020 21:20:15
    Hello all, I am having a weird issue. I run both a BBS and network hub with latest version of Mystic. On the Hub system when MUTIL is ran is stays stuck waiting on busy nodes and never continues. I had to write a small script that does Fidopoll Kilbusy All every 10 seconds and then
    this lets mutil continue. Any idea what may be wrong? Thanks.

    __ _ _ __ _ __ _ ____ . _ _ __

    I've been having the same issue and also just added a small script, and
    run as an hourly event, to fidopoll killbusy then poll each of my
    networks, however I don't run a hub and don't have to do so every 10
    seconds. I noticed the issue started as more people began upgrading to
    .46; I'm still on .45 .. I had not had this problem prior. I have not
    delve into that upgrade yet, and admittedly just quick scanned the
    "whats new," and it appears a lot of changes to MIS have occurred ..
    gr00r00 would be an obvious better source of info ... but it appears a
    lot of back end development occurred on the new version .. I'm pretty
    excited to get it up and running, but .... scared to death to dive into
    it at the moment. I literally am just finishing all of my
    customization.

    -tG

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Underground [@] theunderground.us:10023 <-port (21:1/165)
  • From Analog@21:2/123 to The Godfather on Monday, August 10, 2020 22:25:58
    Hello all, I am having a weird issue. I run both a BBS and network with latest version of Mystic. On the Hub system when MUTIL is ran i stays stuck waiting on busy nodes and never continues. I had to writ small script that does Fidopoll Kilbusy All every 10 seconds and then

    You may be experiencing the same issue I am. I have my echomail folder that gets XXXX.bsy flags put into it on occassion which never lets mutil/fidopoll run until they are gone. So instead of killall, I just run:
    "find . -name *.bsy -exec rm {} \;"
    To purge the bsy flags. I don't know what causes them to hang up but it's
    been happening since A45. I attributed it to my Fidonet uplink being slow and causing hangs. But not I"m not so sure.

    Analog

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Analog on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 08:58:45

    You may be experiencing the same issue I am. I have my echomail folder that gets XXXX.bsy flags put into it on occassion which never lets mutil/fidopoll run until they are gone. So instead of killall, I just
    run: "find . -name *.bsy -exec rm {} \;"
    To purge the bsy flags. I don't know what causes them to hang up but it's been happening since A45. I attributed it to my Fidonet uplink being
    slow and causing hangs. But not I"m not so sure.


    You're running linux or windows? I never got the error until others
    started running .46 .. but maybe I just didn't have enough networks at
    the time to create the error. hmm... it's working as I have it set up.
    Once I brave the upgrade (hopefully I don't lose much config) the
    problem will go away :)

    -tG

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Underground [@] theunderground.us:10023 <-port (21:1/165)
  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to The Godfather on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 14:46:45
    Re: Re: MUTIL
    By: The Godfather to Analog on Tue Aug 11 2020 08:58 am

    You're running linux or windows? I never got the error until others started running .46 .. but maybe I just didn't have enough networks at
    the time to create the error. hmm... it's working as I have it set up. Once I brave the upgrade (hopefully I don't lose much config) the
    problem will go away :)

    Are you talking about the issue of mutil not tossing mail/files because of errant busy files?

    This has been an issue since early in the A45 time frame, 2016 or so. It has happened to me also although not often. I have never been able to come to any conclusion as to why it happens but the only solution is to shutdown mis and run the killbusy commands.

    g00r00 is aware and has this in mind and I'm certain we will get passed it at some point. I had to run the killbusy command on my up to date A46 install not long ago.

    The fix will likely be easy but figuring out just what the problem is may not be.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Al on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 18:15:34
    Are you talking about the issue of mutil not tossing mail/files because
    of errant busy files?

    Yes, specifically half way through polling networks, they all start
    showing up "busy" and being skipped. Then mutil spits an error out
    saying that mutil is busy. So .. I fidopoll killbusy, and the problem
    clears for a while. Now I run a batch file to clear it out prior to
    each poll.

    This has been an issue since early in the A45 time frame, 2016 or so. It has happened to me also although not often. I have never been able to
    come to any conclusion as to why it happens but the only solution is to shutdown mis and run the killbusy commands.


    I was unaware as I've only been running Mystic since March/April, and
    the problem only began to occur once I added a 5th network (which was
    around the time people were conversing about trouble shooting their .46 installs). So glad to know it's already been discussed and people much
    better with back end programming are on it.

    thx,

    -tG

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to The Godfather on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 15:40:17
    Re: Re: MUTIL
    By: The Godfather to Al on Tue Aug 11 2020 06:15 pm

    Yes, specifically half way through polling networks, they all start showing up "busy" and being skipped. Then mutil spits an error out
    saying that mutil is busy. So .. I fidopoll killbusy, and the problem clears for a while. Now I run a batch file to clear it out prior to
    each poll.

    It can be kind of a kiss in the petunia, I know.

    Clearing the busy files manually could cause unexpected results. g00r00's advice has been to shutdown mis and issue the killbusy commands so that's the way I would do it.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Nazferiti@21:3/107 to The Godfather on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 19:57:29
    On 10 Aug 2020, The Godfather said the following...

    Hello all, I am having a weird issue. I run both a BBS and network with latest version of Mystic. On the Hub system when MUTIL is ran i stays stuck waiting on busy nodes and never continues. I had to writ small script that does Fidopoll Kilbusy All every 10 seconds and then this lets mutil continue. Any idea what may be wrong? Thanks.

    __ _ _ __ _ __ _ ____ . _ _ __

    I've been having the same issue and also just added a small script, and run as an hourly event, to fidopoll killbusy then poll each of my networks, however I don't run a hub and don't have to do so every 10 seconds. I noticed the issue started as more people began upgrading to .46; I'm still on .45 .. I had not had this problem prior. I have not delve into that upgrade yet, and admittedly just quick scanned the
    "whats new," and it appears a lot of changes to MIS have occurred .. gr00r00 would be an obvious better source of info ... but it appears a
    lot of back end development occurred on the new version .. I'm pretty excited to get it up and running, but .... scared to death to dive into
    it at the moment. I literally am just finishing all of my
    customization.

    -tG

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Underground [@] theunderground.us:10023 <-port (21:1/165)

    I have been noticing the same issue and I know that some of the nodes it
    throws off are not busy. I have not dug into this any deeper other than to note that this happens on both my A46 and A45 Systems and has been going on
    for some time.

    It seems that once a "busy" node is encountered, all nodes that are polled after are also "busy". They can be polled individually or if you just wait a few minutes the issue seems to resolve itself.

    - Mike

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Al on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 10:07:38
    Clearing the busy files manually could cause unexpected results. g00r00's advice has been to shutdown mis and issue the killbusy commands so
    that's the way I would do it.

    Thanks for the heads up, switched that over right after reading your
    reply! I'll trust the experts suggestions over my own fixes any time :)

    -tG

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Underground [@] theunderground.us:10023 <-port (21:1/165)
  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Nazferiti on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 10:14:53
    It seems that once a "busy" node is encountered, all nodes that are polled after are also "busy". They can be polled individually or if you just wait a few minutes the issue seems to resolve itself.


    Thanks Mike. I had been polling individually, however once I got past
    (I think) 5 networks on my system .. the event editor started acting
    wonky. I would set up a new network to poll at a specific time, exit
    config, and a day later would not see any messages coming through. I'd
    load event editor, and sure enough the event I created disappeared as
    well as a few previous networks duplicated, resulting in them being
    polled twice. So Stizzed assisted me in setting up a batch file which
    works better, as it's now just one event .. however now the fidokill
    .bsy is necessary as I get the mutil .bsy error. I haven't seen it
    resolve on it's own without fidokill busy though .. you're lucky there.
    What has been slightly helpful is making the largest traffic networks
    poll last within the batch file. I may even split the batch file into
    two, to reduce how much mutil is being asked to process at one time.
    I know it's probably just an extra step, but it's worth a shot and
    can't hurt anything. But if it's not the version change that caused
    the issue ..... I wonder if it's the number of networks?

    -tG

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
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