always asks me "Invisible Logon" Yes No.

It defaults to "No"....
Since I log onto my BBS about 12341923.6 times per day... I would prefer that this prompt default to YES...

I've looked into the Prompts file and I've found the prompt... But there is
no way to change the Default answer to Yes...

I've tried adding a -Y to the prompt, but it still defaults to No...

Anyone happen to know how to change this to a default answer of "Yes" ?????

Gary Crunk
Another F-ing BBS
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I've looked into the Prompts file and I've found the prompt... But there is no way to change the Default answer to Yes...

Yes there is. Add a |-Y to the end of the prompt and that should force the default of that prompt to default to Yes.

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the default of that prompt to default to Yes.

I've changed the prompt #308:
|CR|12Invisible login? |11 |-Y

But it still defaults to "No" upon login...

Gary Crunk
Another F-ing BBS
anotherbbs.bbsindex.com

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Yes there is. Add a |-Y to the end of the prompt and that should
force the default of that prompt to default to Yes.

I've changed the prompt #308:
|CR|12Invisible login? |11 |-Y
But it still defaults to "No" upon login...

Maybe: |CR|12Invisible login?|-Y |11


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Nope... Same thing... it defaults to No...
Frustrating...

Gary Crunk
Another F-ing BBS
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On 05/19/17, garycrunk pondered and said...

Maybe: |CRInvisible login?|-Y

Nope... Same thing... it defaults to No...
Frustrating...

Seeing the same here Gary, using Win/64 ... I'll keep playing and let you
know if I crack it. The code g00r00 mentioned should work as it's in the docs.

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Maybe: |CRInvisible login?|-Y

Nope... Same thing... it defaults to No...
Frustrating...

Try just |Y ?


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Nope...

Gary Crunk
Another F-ing BBS
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On 05/19/17, garycrunk pondered and said...

Try just |Y ?

Nope...

So far all the variations I have tried are also coming up blank. g00r00 you
may want to test this to see if you can get it to work.

Best, Paul

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On 05/20/17, Avon pondered and said...

On 05/19/17, garycrunk pondered and said...

Try just |Y ?

Nope...

So far all the variations I have tried are also coming up blank. g00r00 you may want to test this to see if you can get it to work.

Maybe it needs to go on the beginning of the line
"|-Y|CRInvisible?"

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Try just |Y ?

Nope...

So far all the variations I have tried are also coming up blank. g00r00 you may want to test this to see if you can get it to work.
Best, Paul

Paul/g00r00...

It seems that various iterations of the -Y command does not seem to force
a "Yes" default in the "Invisible Login"...

I did notice something else however. The Prompt "Add to One Liner?" Defaults to "Yes". In the Mystic Program, does it parse the Prompts file and assign a default Yes/No prompt line number? Prompt Line Numbers 316 and 317?

Line 316 is a prompt that defaults to "Yes"...
Line 317 is a prompt that defaults to "No"...

I do not know how the Mystic programs parses the Prompt file, but could
it be that the "Invisible Login" prompt is being pointed to 317? As I said,
I do not know how Mystic handles the Prompt File...

Many Thanks.

Gary Crunk
Another F-ing BBS
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On 05/24/17, garycrunk pondered and said...

I do not know how the Mystic programs parses the Prompt file, but could it be that the "Invisible Login" prompt is being pointed to 317?
As I said, I do not know how Mystic handles the Prompt File...

I'm not sure Gary... only g00r00 will be able to answer that one. Interesting find regards the other prompt defaulting to yes.

Best, Paul

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On 05/24/17, Gryphon pondered and said...

So far all the variations I have tried are also coming up blank. g00r you may want to test this to see if you can get it to work.

Maybe it needs to go on the beginning of the line
"|-Y|CRInvisible?"

Thanks Gryphon :) I'll give this a go and report back.

Best, Paul

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Seeing the same here Gary, using Win/64 ... I'll keep playing and let you know if I crack it. The code g00r00 mentioned should work as it's in the docs.

I'll have to test it maybe its broken.

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It seems that various iterations of the -Y command does not seem to force a "Yes" default in the "Invisible Login"...

It might just be totally broken. :) I need to test it.

I do not know how the Mystic programs parses the Prompt file, but could it be that the "Invisible Login" prompt is being pointed to 317?
As I said, I do not know how Mystic handles the Prompt File...

Each specific "Yes/No" prompt has its own default that I set when I
programmed that particular prompt into Mystic. The "text" of that prompt is read into a file but has no effect on what that default is.

Those MCI codes are supposed to be able to be added to the end of those promts so that you can change the default but it appears it may be broken.

Prompt 308 appears to be the invisible login thing.

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On 05/24/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

Seeing the same here Gary, using Win/64 ... I'll keep playing and let know if I crack it. The code g00r00 mentioned should work as it's in docs.

I'll have to test it maybe its broken.

Thanks for looking in to it when able. :)

BTW nice reply over in MYSTIC.

Best, Paul

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On 05/25/17, Avon said the following...

BTW nice reply over in MYSTIC.

I liked that reply as well. :)


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On 05/18/17, garycrunk pondered and said...

Every time I log onto my BBS as a Sysop, after entering my Password, it always asks me "Invisible Logon" Yes No.

It defaults to "No"....
Since I log onto my BBS about 12341923.6 times per day... I would prefer that this prompt default to YES...

I've looked into the Prompts file and I've found the prompt... But there is no way to change the Default answer to Yes...

I've tried adding a -Y to the prompt, but it still defaults to No...

Anyone happen to know how to change this to a default answer of "Yes" ?????

I finally solved this and will do a video about it.

The answer is to append the input field manipulation code |-Y to the
end of the password prompt (# 002)

So you end that string with this |XX|-Y

That in turn sets up the next prompt that is displayed with a yes/no question to be set to yes. If your running with s255 or a sXXX setting as defined in configuration > login/matrix > Invisible ACS then this will in turn provide
the 'Invisible Login?' prompt to be set to Yes by default.

The only caveat I can see is that if you set this up and regular users login, and if you have a yes/no prompt in their login sequence for some reason, this method would set their potential reply to yes.

Best, Paul

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On 06/02/17, Avon pondered and said...

I finally solved this and will do a video about it.

Video is now up at https://youtu.be/uguo1hr2AQg

Best, Paul

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Best, Paul

Paul;
Many thanks! It does work... "You Da Man" ... as the saying goes... :)

Gary Crunk
Another F-ing BBS
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I finally solved this and will do a video about it.

The answer is to append the input field manipulation code |-Y to the
end of the password prompt (# 002)

So you end that string with this |XX|-Y
That in turn sets up the next prompt that is displayed with a yes/no question to be set to yes. If your running with s255 or a sXXX setting
as defined in configuration > login/matrix > Invisible ACS then this
will in turn provide the 'Invisible Login?' prompt to be set to Yes by default.

Keep in mind though that this is not intended. Its supposed to be able to be used in the same prompt, but apparently its just bugged. It looks like I fixed it in Mystic 2.0 but not in 1.12.

Anyway, this may work but its just a work around to a bug.

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On 06/02/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

Keep in mind though that this is not intended. Its supposed to be able
to be used in the same prompt, but apparently its just bugged. It looks like I fixed it in Mystic 2.0 but not in 1.12.

Ah well I get some points for creativity :) I can alway update the advice
when things change in later builds ..

Anyway, this may work but its just a work around to a bug.

Gotcha :)

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On 06/02/17, Avon said the following...

The answer is to append the input field manipulation code |-Y to the
end of the password prompt (# 002)

So you end that string with this |XX|-Y

Just an FYI. I finally got a chance to do this on my system, and it sets ALL
of the y/n prompts within Mystic to default to Yes.

When reading messages, and you get to the last message, Mystic will ask if
you would like to post a message. This prompt defaults to No, but after
setting this in the password prompt, that prompt would default to Yes. It
also changed the "Add to oneliners" prompt to default to Yes as well.


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Sysop - Castle Rock BBS (RCS)
telnet://castlerockbbs.com
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On 06/12/17, Black Panther pondered and said...

So you end that string with this |XX|-Y

Just an FYI. I finally got a chance to do this on my system, and it sets ALL of the y/n prompts within Mystic to default to Yes.

When reading messages, and you get to the last message, Mystic will ask
if you would like to post a message. This prompt defaults to No, but
after setting this in the password prompt, that prompt would default to Yes. It also changed the "Add to oneliners" prompt to default to Yes as well.

Ah, whoops... well it was a bit of a workaround for something g00r00 has mentioned should work but does not... so I guess view it as a short term fix with erm benefits :)

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