• Mystic/Jam Message Base

    From Black Panther@21:1/186 to All on Saturday, April 01, 2017 23:56:00
    Hi All,

    Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is a limit to the number of message bases in either Mystic or with JAM?

    I'm just curious, as I'm close to 2500 right now, and I'm noticing Mystic having issues trying to sort some of them in the config.

    I did try doing a search on the Internet for any limitations of JAM, and
    didn't find any as far as the number of bases.

    Thanks,


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  • From apam@21:1/125 to Black Panther on Sunday, April 02, 2017 05:04:00
    I did try doing a search on the Internet for any limitations of JAM, and didn't find any as far as the number of bases.

    There are no limitations on the number of JAM message bases other than
    the size of your disk.

    Mystic may have limitations, but it isn't because of JAM.

    Andrew

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to apam on Sunday, April 02, 2017 00:57:00
    On 04/02/17, apam said the following...

    There are no limitations on the number of JAM message bases other than
    the size of your disk.

    I didn't think there were any limitations, but I wasn't sure.

    Mystic may have limitations, but it isn't because of JAM.

    I guess that's what I'm wondering, if Mystic has any.

    Thanks,


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    Dan Richter
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  • From apam@21:1/125 to Black Panther on Sunday, April 02, 2017 06:15:00
    Black Panther said....

    On 04/02/17, apam said the following...

    There are no limitations on the number of JAM message bases other than the size of your disk.

    I didn't think there were any limitations, but I wasn't sure.

    Mystic may have limitations, but it isn't because of JAM.

    I guess that's what I'm wondering, if Mystic has any.

    I can't remember if it was Paul when he was setting up the NNTP gateway
    or Allen when he was trying out mystic, but I believe one of them ran into issues with massive amounts of message bases.

    I don't think there is an intended limitation, but I'm pretty sure after so many it will start having issues.

    Andrew
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  • From Richard Menedetter@21:1/104 to Black Panther on Sunday, April 02, 2017 10:20:00
    Hi Black!

    01 Apr 2017 22:56, from Black Panther -> All:

    Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is a limit to the
    number of message bases in either Mystic or with JAM?

    A JAM message base is compromised of 4 files.
    Hence the number of message bases is not limited by JAM. (simply add another 4 files and you have an additional message area).

    I have no clue if Mystic limits the number of areas.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to apam on Sunday, April 02, 2017 21:52:00
    On 04/02/17, apam pondered and said...

    Mystic may have limitations, but it isn't because of JAM.

    I guess that's what I'm wondering, if Mystic has any.

    I can't remember if it was Paul when he was setting up the NNTP gateway
    or Allen when he was trying out mystic, but I believe one of them ran
    into issues with massive amounts of message bases.

    I don't think there is an intended limitation, but I'm pretty sure after so many it will start having issues.


    I was using Mystic for the Usenet gateway for some time and had 1650
    echoareas runinng without issue. I am not aware if there is a limit on the number of message bases in Mystic but I am aware of some limits regarding the number of bases you can tag when choosing which ones to export to
    echonodes.

    As far as tossing in/out of that many bases MUTIL had no issues at all.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Hawke@21:1/148 to Avon on Saturday, April 08, 2017 12:28:00
    Re: Re: Mystic/Jam Message Base
    By: Avon to apam on Sun Apr 02 2017 09:52 pm

    I was using Mystic for the Usenet gateway for some time and had 1650 echoareas runinng without issue. I am not aware if there is a limit on the number of message bases in Mystic but I am aware of some limits regarding the number of bases you can tag when choosing which ones to export to echonodes.

    Actually... you helped me debug this yourself... if you remember the differences between our two gateways is the archive retention. I don't believe that you keep as many messages as I do. Most of my areas have the maximum amount of retention possible... I have some newsgroups with 100,000 messages archived in them.

    Allen

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  • From g00r00@21:1/105 to apam on Saturday, May 06, 2017 13:13:44

    I can't remember if it was Paul when he was setting up the NNTP gateway
    or Allen when he was trying out mystic, but I believe one of them ran
    into issues with massive amounts of message bases.

    There is a limit of 65535 message bases, which could easily be expanded to 2 billion if anyone ever got that far. The index reader/listers have a hard limit of 10,000 which is really only a soft limitation that I could change.

    To my knowledge no one has ever come close to those limits though, so I
    haven't bothered to expand on them.

    I don't think there is an intended limitation, but I'm pretty sure after so many it will start having issues.

    I have not had anything like this reported to me, but if you or anyone knows more about this please let me know so I can look into it.

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to g00r00 on Saturday, May 06, 2017 13:48:24
    On 05/06/17, g00r00 said the following...

    There is a limit of 65535 message bases, which could easily be expanded
    to 2 billion if anyone ever got that far. The index reader/listers have
    a hard limit of 10,000 which is really only a soft limitation that I
    could change.

    g00r00,

    I was the one asking about the message bases. I've got right around 2500 message bases right now. The main issue that I was having, was the time to
    load the Message Index reader. It can take 2-3 minutes for that to load. I'm not sure exactly how many messages I have on this system, but most of my
    bases are set to a max of 10,000 messages. It could be my system that is slowing it down as well.

    I did also have a minor hiccup while trying to sort message bases. I was looking at sorting just one network by echo-tag, so I could make sure I
    didn't have duplicates from multiple hubs, and it seemed to freeze up the mystic -cfg. I did attempt it three times, with the same results. I haven't tried it since.

    Thanks for your awesome work with Mystic!


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