Just one I discovered the other day. I had a QWK packet from Mystic which caused Multimail to hang. Setup DOSBox and Bluewave/286, which opened the packet no problems. I was aboe to repeat the problem by backdating my last read pointers and downloading another QWK. Different size, but this QWK included whatever Multimail didn't like. Again, Bluewave opened it fine.

Just flagging it in case anyone else has seen this issue, and for g00r00, when he comes back.

I've also got a copy of the offending packet.

Also, as a feature request, I've found the QWK netmail support breaks when the user you're sending to has a long name. The username@FTN format can exceed the size of the To: field.

This is where having true Bluewave format support would be helpful, because Bluewave handles netmail natively, without the need for workarounds. Multimail supports this format, and of course, there are Y2K fixed versions of Bluewave out there.


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Re: Another QWK issue.
By: Vk3jed to All on Sat Sep 10 2016 08:17 am

Also, as a feature request, I've found the QWK netmail support breaks when the user you're sending to has a long name. The username@FTN format can exceed the size of the To: field.

Do you have your QWK setup in extended mode? I believe that needs to be turned on for netmail support. I always have that turned on so I don't get those short subject lines.. :)

This is where having true Bluewave format support would be helpful, because Bluewave handles netmail natively, without the need for workarounds. Multimail supports this format, and of course, there are Y2K fixed versions of Bluewave out there.

That would be a good thing since it can be used by BW and multimail. Are there other readers that support BW as well?

It is a good format but was never widely available outside of the BW doors and they are hard to find today.

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Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Do you have your QWK setup in extended mode? I believe that needs to be turned on for netmail support. I always have that turned on so I don't
get those short subject lines.. :)

Yes, I run QWKE all the time on both BBSs (Mystic and Synchronet). Netmail support works for most people, just breaks when there is a long username.

That would be a good thing since it can be used by BW and multimail.
Are there other readers that support BW as well?

I believe I've seen a couple of other readers out there.

It is a good format but was never widely available outside of the BW
doors and they are hard to find today.

Well, Mystic would need BW support written. Shame, the Bluewave developers kit is still easily found on the Internet, so shouldn't be too hard for a competent programmer to whip something up, whether g00r00 in Mystic or someone writing a door.

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Re: Re: Another QWK issue.
By: Vk3jed to Al on Sat Sep 10 2016 09:44 am

Yes, I run QWKE all the time on both BBSs (Mystic and Synchronet). Netmail support works for most people, just breaks when there is a long username.

Does that same username work OK with synchronet?

There must be a limit there somewhere but I'm not sure where it is.

Well, Mystic would need BW support written. Shame, the Bluewave developers kit is still easily found on the Internet, so shouldn't be too hard for a competent programmer to whip something up, whether g00r00 in Mystic or someone writing a door.

I guess g00r00 wonders if the time involved in implementing it would be worth his effort and if it would be used. I worry somewhat about 3rd party stuff writing to the message base. As long as they are careful not to break compatability that could work too.

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On 09/10/16, Vk3jed pondered and said...

Well, Mystic would need BW support written. Shame, the Bluewave developers kit is still easily found on the Internet, so shouldn't be
too hard for a competent programmer to whip something up, whether g00r00 in Mystic or someone writing a door.

I'm not saying he wouldn't look to do this, but I have a sneaking suspicion this has been canvassed before with him and the vibe at the time was the
Mystic was already offering QWK support and there were questions about the
cost vs benefit of doing such work for essentially legacy software that's not actively supported now. It would be interesting to get g00r00s take on it
when he's back on the scene again.

Best, Paul

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Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Does that same username work OK with synchronet?

I'll have to give that a try. Good idea.

There must be a limit there somewhere but I'm not sure where it is.

Yes. :)

I guess g00r00 wonders if the time involved in implementing it would be worth his effort and if it would be used. I worry somewhat about 3rd
party stuff writing to the message base. As long as they are careful
not to break compatability that could work too.

Yes, I'm sure he figures there's more important things to do with Mystic first.
Understandable, I was happy with QWK support, until I hit that snag. :)


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Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I'm not saying he wouldn't look to do this, but I have a sneaking suspicion this has been canvassed before with him and the vibe at the
time was the Mystic was already offering QWK support and there were questions about the cost vs benefit of doing such work for essentially legacy software that's not actively supported now. It would be
interesting to get g00r00s take on it when he's back on the scene
again.

Yes, I believe that's where the discussion ended. QWK was fine with the latest additions to QWKE, until this latest issue cropped up. I'm not yet sure if it's in Mystic, Multimail or the QWK/QWKE specification.


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On 09/10/16, Vk3jed pondered and said...

Yes, I believe that's where the discussion ended. QWK was fine with the latest additions to QWKE, until this latest issue cropped up. I'm not
yet sure if it's in Mystic, Multimail or the QWK/QWKE specification.

As I'm not a QWK etc. user I really don't know either. But it's one to follow up on in the fullness of time.

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Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yes, I believe that's where the discussion ended. QWK was fine with the latest additions to QWKE, until this latest issue cropped up. I'm not
yet sure if it's in Mystic, Multimail or the QWK/QWKE specification.

As I'm not a QWK etc. user I really don't know either. But it's one to follow up on in the fullness of time.

Yep, meanwhile, I'm doing further testing. :)


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