Hey All,
My echo files have been acting a bit weird I'm not sure what the problem is. When I get files the .tic and the files just sit in the /mystic/echomail/in directory. I'm not sure how I can get it to read the tic and add the files to my system?
Thanks in advance!
Steve

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I also just noticed a whole heap of files in my /badfiles folder... something is definitly not right :/

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Also this is in my mutil.log
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file 4c5a2chi.tic
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file AGORANET.ZIP
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file FSXNET.Z53
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file FSXNET.tic

I'm not sure what the go is as it all looks correct in my mutil.ini
21:1/100_bad_dir = /mystic/files/fsx/badfile/
21:1/100_dir_prefix = /mystic/files/fsx/
21:1/100_allow_replace = true
21:1/100_acs_list = s20z6
21:1/100_acs_ftp = s255z6
21:1/100_acs_download = s20z6
21:1/100_acs_upload = s255z6
21:1/100_acs_comment = s255z6
21:1/100_acs_sysop = s255z6

The directories exist too, there is something not right but I can't put my finger on it...

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On 09/09/16, rEApZ pondered and said...

Also this is in my mutil.log
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file 4c5a2chi.tic
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file AGORANET.ZIP
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file FSXNET.Z53
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file FSXNET.tic

I'm not sure what the go is as it all looks correct in my mutil.ini

have you enabled the file toss stanza in your ini file that you call when echomail etc. arrives?

Best, Paul

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The directories exist too, there is something not right but I can't put
my finger on it...

Silly question, but could it be something as silly as the Session or TIC Password?

ThatGuy

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On 09/09/16, rEApZ said the following...

Hey All,
My echo files have been acting a bit weird I'm not sure what the problem is. When I get files the .tic and the files just sit in the /mystic/echomail/in directory. I'm not sure how I can get it to read the tic and add the files to my system?
Thanks in advance!

for which file base? im getting this issue because there was a new tic
program being used and mystic does not like it.

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On 09/09/16, rEApZ said the following...

! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file 4c5a2chi.tic
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file AGORANET.ZIP
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file FSXNET.Z53
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file FSXNET.tic

i got the fsx just fine what does the tic say? can you post it? just edit
your password out

again it could be because of hTic program he was using

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

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On 09/09/16, ThatGuy said the following...

The directories exist too, there is something not right but I can't p my finger on it...

Silly question, but could it be something as silly as the Session or TIC Password?

if it was a session password it would not be delivered.

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Thursday September 08 2016 15:16, you wrote to rEApZ:

again it could be because of hTic program he was using

I've been tossing tics created by htick here for ages, never had a problem.

What problem are you seeing with tics created by htick?

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On 09/08/16, dream master pondered and said...

On 09/09/16, rEApZ said the following...

! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file FSXNET.Z53
! Sep 09 00:51:30 Unknown inbound file FSXNET.tic

i got the fsx just fine what does the tic say? can you post it? just
edit your password out

again it could be because of hTic program he was using

DM I would think it unlikely. As I mentioned in another reply your logs
clearly showed your issue was due to dupe detection and I pointed out a
setting you may want to adjust to avoid the problem in the future... that's assuming your happy to have two file areas with the same files in them :)

Best, Paul

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On 09/08/16, Al said the following...

Thursday September 08 2016 15:16, you wrote to rEApZ:

again it could be because of hTic program he was using

I've been tossing tics created by htick here for ages, never had a problem.
What problem are you seeing with tics created by htick?

i notice that its in a different format in terms of what line has what. it creates the base but when mutil tries to toss it comes up as dupe

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

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On 09/09/16, Avon said the following...

again it could be because of hTic program he was using

DM I would think it unlikely. As I mentioned in another reply your logs clearly showed your issue was due to dupe detection and I pointed out a setting you may want to adjust to avoid the problem in the future... that's assuming your happy to have two file areas with the same files in them :)

where was this reply? i seem to be missing them grrrr

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Thursday September 08 2016 18:07, you wrote to me:

again it could be because of hTic program he was using

I've been tossing tics created by htick here for ages, never had
a problem. What problem are you seeing with tics created by
htick?

i notice that its in a different format in terms of what line has
what. it creates the base but when mutil tries to toss it comes up as dupe

Could it be that the file is a dupe?

If there is a problem with tics created by htick I'd really like to know. I recieve and send a handfull of tics every day so if something isn't right I need to know.. :)

I send tics to a couple of mystic systems and if there are problems I haven't heard anything.

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On 09/08/16, dream master pondered and said...

where was this reply? i seem to be missing them grrrr

FSX_GEN but I have also just forwarded it here now, so you should see it shortly.

Best, Paul

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if it was a session password it would not be delivered.

Ok, didn't know for certain, and thought I'd ask :)


Cheers!

ThatGuy

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have you enabled the file toss stanza in your ini file that you call when echomail etc. arrives?

Best, Paul

Hey Paul,
Yeah definitly enabled; FileToss = true

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i got the fsx just fine what does the tic say? can you post it? just
edit your password out

again it could be because of hTic program he was using

Area FSX_NODE
Origin 21:1/1
From 21:1/100
Replaces FSXNET.*
Magic FSX_NODE
File FSXNET.Z53
Size 10361
Desc Weekly nodelist for fsxNet
Crc F6F74FD8
Created by ALLFIX, 6.0.24 Copyright (C) 2000,2013 by Bob Seaborn (1:213/720) Path 21:1/1 1473409636 FRI SEP 9 02:15:00 2016 UTC+1200
Seenby 21:1/1
Seenby 3:770/1
Seenby 21:1/2

It all looks normal to me :/
Cheers,
Steve

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On 09/09/16, rEApZ pondered and said...

Area FSX_NODE
Origin 21:1/1

Let's see if we can't suss it out. I'll call your BBS soon and if you're
about we can take a look at the issue.

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Let's see if we can't suss it out. I'll call your BBS soon and if you're about we can take a look at the issue.

Thanks Avon, It's doing my head in now I just can't work it out! I will be around
Cheers,
Steve

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On 09/09/16, rEApZ pondered and said...

Thanks Avon, It's doing my head in now I just can't work it out! I will be around
Cheers,
Steve

OK stand by caller.... :)

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So after a lot of hair pulling and setting changes (and also a good bit of troubleshooting from our friendly neighbourhood Avon) we have worked out the trouble I was having with importing hatched files from my fidonet hub was due to a case issue. Changing my password to all UPPERCASE has solved the issue! It's always something so simple that you over look which is the issue... I think it is also that I run a Linux system which is case sensitive and
suspect the problem wouldn't have arisen if I was running a DOS/Windows system Cheers,
Steve

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On 09/09/16, rEApZ pondered and said...

Let's see if we can't suss it out. I'll call your BBS soon and if you about we can take a look at the issue.

Thanks Avon, It's doing my head in now I just can't work it out! I will be around

Here's what we figured out after some digging.

The default settings in the [FileToss] stanza were all commented out. That
made MUTIL baulk with a FAILED error as it could not find what it was looking for as it started up. That's despite specific settings for 21:1/100
noted further down the file

So Lesson 1 - always have something like this set up as a default setting in your mailin.ini / filetoss stanza


dir_prefix = c:\mystic\files\

(of if your a linux system)

dir_prefix = \mystic\files\

(..and then...)

; Auto create base options

dispfile =
template = ansiflst
acs_list = s255z1
acs_ftp = s255z1
acs_download = s255z1
acs_upload = s255z1
acs_hatch = s255z1
acs_sysop = s255z1

After that MUTIL ran the file toss but kicked most fidonet .tic into the bad directory but did import the fsxNet ones just fine :)

Next we check passwords for the fidonet .tic files as that was what the logs were showing was the problem. We found that depsite a lower case password
being set in the .tic and in the echonode config it would not import them

Lesson 2

Set you tic password in your echonode config as UPPERCASE and it then fixes
the issue. For some reason Steves Linux Mystic did not like the lowercase
.tic password stated in his fidonet echonode settings but once changed to the same password but uppercase - it imported all 10 files and accompanying .tics

Best, Paul

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Here's what we figured out after some digging.

Thanks again Paul, this was really doing my melon in! I hope it helps anyone else who might have the same issue. It did however put all my files in and directories in my /mystic/files/ not the /mystic/files/fido/ as was requested in the ini file, I'm still looking at that at the moment but its a fairly
minor issue as I don't think any echo nets share names.
Cheers,
Steve

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On 09/09/16, rEApZ pondered and said...

Thanks again Paul, this was really doing my melon in! I hope it helps anyone else who might have the same issue. It did however put all my
files in and directories in my /mystic/files/ not the
/mystic/files/fido/ as was requested in the ini file, I'm still looking
at that at the moment but its a fairly minor issue as I don't think any echo nets share names. Cheers,

Yes I seen others post about this also and am not sure why it's doing that?
Or if it's a linux vs windows thing?

Your best option is to probably keep the base but adjust the file path in the base settings.

Best, Paul

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On 09/08/16, Al said the following...

i notice that its in a different format in terms of what line has what. it creates the base but when mutil tries to toss it comes up a dupe

Could it be that the file is a dupe?

i never saw the original message. g00r00 has so much in the logs i have to search extra long to find things. im waiting for it to settle down so i can update an old app i have source too. i tried to download hTic but you need
to compile it to check it out. well the site i was on hehe

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

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On 09/09/16, rEApZ said the following...

i got the fsx just fine what does the tic say? can you post it? just edit your password out
again it could be because of hTic program he was using

Area FSX_NODE
Origin 21:1/1
From 21:1/100

when i looked at it the first line said the name of the program. but it seems
i dont know whats causing errors now.

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

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Re: files and tic
By: dream master to Al on Fri Sep 09 2016 02:12 am

i never saw the original message. g00r00 has so much in the logs i have to search extra long to find things.

I hear ya.. :)

i tried to download hTic but you need to compile it to check it out.
well the site i was on hehe

You can get it for dos, OS/2 and windows 32 or 64. Check out this page..

https://sourceforge.net/projects/husky/files/husky/1.9-current/2016.06.28/

You need to put together a fido.config for it. I could zip up a copy of my config that you could see what you need to do if that would help you.

It could be used for things like hatching until mystic can do that on it's own.

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On 09/09/16, Avon considered the following...

; Auto create base options

dispfile =
template = ansiflst

Thank-you so much for pointing this out. I commented out the default values thinking they were just that, guidelines. Nothing was tossed for weeks. I've been manually doing it. This is SOOOOOOO much easier. Yay!

Mick

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On 09/09/16, Mick Manning pondered and said...

weeks. I've been manually doing it. This is SOOOOOOO much easier. Yay!

Cool, well it's Steve really that had the issue and we found that fix
together so I'm glad it helped you also :)

Best, Paul

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On 09/09/16, Al said the following...

i tried to download hTic but you need to compile it to check it out. well the site i was on hehe

You can get it for dos, OS/2 and windows 32 or 64. Check out this page.. https://sourceforge.net/projects/husky/files/husky/1.9-current/2016.06.28/

husky or htic?

It could be used for things like hatching until mystic can do that on
it's own.

i use allfix for now and i was trying to get the new author to support mystic but he is a little resistant and yet supports an oder version of renegade. go figure

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

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On 09/09/16, dream master pondered and said...

i use allfix for now and i was trying to get the new author to support mystic but he is a little resistant and yet supports an oder version of renegade. go figure

He seem so customer focused - not :)

Best, Paul

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Re: files and tic
By: dream master to Al on Fri Sep 09 2016 07:49 pm

husky or htic?

They'll both be in there.

i use allfix for now and i was trying to get the new author to support mystic but he is a little resistant and yet supports an oder version of renegade. go figure

One thing I prefer about htick is that it doesn't force filenames to upper case. If you feed it an upper case file that's what you send out but you can also use lower or mixed case.

I haven't used Allfix since Harold Harms was taking care of it. I don't know what the current situation is with it.

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On 09/09/16, Al pondered and said...

I haven't used Allfix since Harold Harms was taking care of it. I don't know what the current situation is with it.

I'm using it for Fido and it's not overly flash, does what the box says and that's it :) To be fair I have not pushed it to use all of its functionality but the big PITA is the lack of long file name support IMHO.

Best, Paul

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Re: Re: files and tic
By: Avon to Al on Sat Sep 10 2016 06:56 pm

I'm using it for Fido and it's not overly flash, does what the box says and that's it :) To be fair I have not pushed it to use all of its functionality but the big PITA is the lack of long file name support IMHO.

It sure was The Bomb in it's day!

I think long filenames can still be done with the Fullname keyword if tossers watch for it and know how to use it. I'm not sure if allfix or even htick use it in tics that they send out. I know that MBSE sends me tics with that keyword and I sure wish my ticer would use it.

I don't understand the issue with long file names in 2016! 1996 maybe, but 2016! Lord have mercy!

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On 09/10/16, Al pondered and said...

I don't understand the issue with long file names in 2016! 1996 maybe,
but 2016! Lord have mercy!

Amen brother... sing hallelujah :)

Best, Paul

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Re: Re: files and tic
By: Avon to Al on Sat Sep 10 2016 08:45 pm

I don't understand the issue with long file names in 2016! 1996
maybe, but 2016! Lord have mercy!

Amen brother... sing hallelujah :)

Oh, well. The operation here does support them. I keep reading dove-net for news about long file name support. It's been talked about (not so much recently) but so far synchronet doesn't support them on linux. I think it does on windows in that Win95 FILENA~!.ZIP sort of way, but on linux nota.

Every time I want to import a file with a long filename I need to 8.3 it. Kind of a PITA.

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On 09/10/16, Avon said the following...

On 09/09/16, dream master pondered and said...

i use allfix for now and i was trying to get the new author to suppor mystic but he is a little resistant and yet supports an oder version renegade. go figure

He seem so customer focused - not :)

prolly because its free now. still supports sbbs 2.x... he said people were saying the records change every release. nothing simple research can fix. no plans for win32 it seems. i would like to see g00r00 give him structs for now till he builds his own file hatching. he has the tossing part inbound so far hehe

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On 09/09/16, Al said the following...

husky or htic?

They'll both be in there.

oh i see it's like a nice softare suite

One thing I prefer about htick is that it doesn't force filenames to
upper case. If you feed it an upper case file that's what you send out
but you can also use lower or mixed case.

oh that's nice. does this also do new file hatched post to jam bases?

I haven't used Allfix since Harold Harms was taking care of it. I don't know what the current situation is with it.

i didnt even know it was sold. i was out a a nice while too but supposedly he has released the 6.x build?

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Re: files and tic
By: dream master to Al on Sat Sep 10 2016 02:24 pm

One thing I prefer about htick is that it doesn't force filenames to
upper case. If you feed it an upper case file that's what you send
out but you can also use lower or mixed case.

oh that's nice. does this also do new file hatched post to jam bases?

It will but that requires that you have hpt also setup for message areas. You probably don't want or need to go that far. Htick can also be configured to create a file that you could add a header/footer to if you wanted and then have mutil import that into your msgbase. Htick will create that file when you run "htick announce". Below is the setup I use to create that file (although I have never posted it yet).

AnnAreaTag @/usr/local/fido/files.ann
AnnInclude *
AnnTo All
AnnFrom HTick Robot
AnnSubj New files!
AnnAddrFrom 1:153/757
AnnOrigin The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada

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On 09/10/16, Al said the following...

oh that's nice. does this also do new file hatched post to jam bases?

It will but that requires that you have hpt also setup for message
areas. You probably don't want or need to go that far. Htick can also be configured to create a file that you could add a header/footer to if you wanted and then have mutil import that into your msgbase. Htick will create that file when you run "htick announce". Below is the setup I use to create that file (although I have never posted it yet).

well there is a base in dorenet for new files received

are there templates? i will look at that file soon. thanks

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Hello dream!

10 Sep 16 14:16, you wrote to Avon:

prolly because its free now. still supports sbbs 2.x... he said
people were saying the records change every release. nothing simple research can fix. no plans for win32 it seems. i would like to see

Don't for get to contact "US". I almost replied "Who is WE? Who is US?"
but I didn't. I'm not a dick. I just play one on TV

Shawn


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Re: files and tic
By: dream master to Al on Sat Sep 10 2016 03:14 pm

well there is a base in dorenet for new files received

That's an idea. I'm going to get a header and footer done and start posting.

are there templates?

There isn't much for htick. There are a few other keywords you can use to include the address where the file was hatched and where you got if from but that's about it. The announces htick creates are informative but very plain. A header and footer is required I think..

When we were talking about these things being included in mystic the idea was to make it all templateable so I think that will be the ultimate solution. :)

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On 09/10/16, Al said the following...

but that's about it. The announces htick creates are informative but
very plain. A header and footer is required I think..
When we were talking about these things being included in mystic the
idea was to make it all templateable so I think that will be the
ultimate solution. :)

i see you posted in DoRENET file area so it does work. looks nice. yay i can pull away from allfix then if the NEW guy does not want to change.

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can pull away from allfix then if the NEW guy does not want to
change.

Bob is old sk00l. Mystic was written before 1981, "They" will never add support to allfix for it.

Shawn

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On 09/11/16, Tiny said the following...

Bob is old sk00l. Mystic was written before 1981, "They" will never
add support to allfix for it.

no it was 1997 ;p

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Hello dream!

11 Sep 16 21:51, you wrote to me:

no it was 1997 ;p

Please that's not old enough, it doesn't follow FTS 0000000001.01 standards which
are the only true standards. In my day it took balls of steal to configure fidonet.
etc etc.

Shawn

P.S. I'm not really making fun of the allfix author just the entire old boy's in fidonet.


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