Hi All,

I appologize if this is something that has either been discussed or written about somewhere already. I just got MysticBBS running on my Ubuntu system,
and with the assistance of some really great videos I found on YouTube
(Thanks Paul), it seems to be running great.

My question is in reference to the MIS2 program. My understanding is that the MIS2 will eventually replace the MIS. Should I be using MIS2 or MIS to run
the BBS servers? I tried MIS2, but it didn't look like it had the option of running the events that were set up.

Can anyone clarify the difference between these for me?

Thanks in advance.


Dan Richter
aka Black Panther
Sysop - Castle Rock BBS

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: Castle Rock BBS 2 - Rio Rancho, NM (21:1/186.1)

On 12/19/16, Black Panther said the following...

Hi All,

I appologize if this is something that has either been discussed or written about somewhere already. I just got MysticBBS running on my
Ubuntu system, and with the assistance of some really great videos I
found on YouTube (Thanks Paul), it seems to be running great.

My question is in reference to the MIS2 program. My understanding is
that the MIS2 will eventually replace the MIS. Should I be using MIS2 or MIS to run the BBS servers? I tried MIS2, but it didn't look like it had the option of running the events that were set up.

Can anyone clarify the difference between these for me?

MIS is a beta, its early stage and does not include everything as MIS does
for now. I would say stick with MIS unless you want to support ipv6 which is the biggest thing over MIS to MIS2 outside the SSH/rLogin servers as well.

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$ý"~"ý$ Christopher Malo aka Pequito!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: Twinkle BBS (21:1/126)

On 12/19/16, Pequito said the following...

My question is in reference to the MIS2 program. My understanding is that the MIS2 will eventually replace the MIS. Should I be using MIS2 MIS to run the BBS servers? I tried MIS2, but it didn't look like it

MIS is a beta, its early stage and does not include everything as MIS
does for now. I would say stick with MIS unless you want to support
ipv6 which is the biggest thing over MIS to MIS2 outside the SSH/rLogin servers as well.

That was the impression that I had, but couldn't find anything written about MIS2, so I wasn't sure.

Thanks for the clarification.


Dan Richter
aka Black Panther
Sysop - Castle Rock BBS

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: Castle Rock BBS 2 - Rio Rancho, NM (21:1/186.1)

On 12/19/16, Black Panther pondered and said...

My question is in reference to the MIS2 program. My understanding is
that the MIS2 will eventually replace the MIS. Should I be using MIS2 or MIS to run the BBS servers? I tried MIS2, but it didn't look like it had the option of running the events that were set up.

Can anyone clarify the difference between these for me?

You're correct MIS2 does not have the events system baked in to it as yet,
and it's a work in progress for g00r00. If you want to access the IPv6
features that MIS2 offers for BinkP etc. then feel free to use it but you'll still need to run MIS to take advantage of the events system etc.

As a general rule of thumb I suggest just use MIS unless you feel the urge to use MIS2 for what it offers :)

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

You're correct MIS2 does not have the events system baked in to it as
yet, and it's a work in progress for g00r00. If you want to access the IPv6 features that MIS2 offers for BinkP etc. then feel free to use it
but you'll still need to run MIS to take advantage of the events system etc.

As a general rule of thumb I suggest just use MIS unless you feel the
urge to use MIS2 for what it offers :)

Thank you for the info, Paul. I appreciate it.

BTW, I'm still working my way through the videos on Mystic. They are
extremely helpful. I don't think I would have gotten the hang of the mutil
ini files without your help.

Thanks again.


Dan Richter
aka Black Panther
Sysop - Castle Rock BBS

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: Castle Rock BBS 2 - Rio Rancho, NM (21:1/186.1)

19 Dec 16 20:08, you wrote to Pequito:

That was the impression that I had, but couldn't find anything written about MIS2, so I wasn't sure.

This was written about MIS2 in the /docs/whatsnew.txt just for clarity (:
<ALPHA 1.12 A27 RELEASED -- July 9, 2016>

! Fixed what should be the final bug in the new dupe system which affected
point systems.

! Fixed the FA + menu action that I broke in the file_index alpha.

+ Mystic 1.12 now uses the socket engine from Mystic 2.0. This library
supports IPV6 and SSH/various SSL protocols. More to come.

+ Windows versions of Mystic now comes with Info-Zip zip.exe and unzip.exe
which will be found in the root installation directory.

+ Added FBaseIndex variable into MPL.

+ Added new MIS2 server binary, which is the eventual replacement for MIS.
This version currently only supports the TELNET, RLOGIN, and SSH servers
but also includes IPV6 support as well. The existing servers will be
rebuilt one by one and added into MIS2.

To avoid conflicts, the event system remains only in MIS for now. If you
want to use TELNET, RLOGIN, and SSH along with the existing servers,
you will simply run both MIS and MIS2 for the time being while MIS2 is
developed.

Servers are defined using the Server Editor found in the Configuration
under Servers -> Edit MIS2 Servers. This will change a bit when the
original MIS is removed.

You can create any number of servers, and all settings are completely
independant of each other. You can even create multiple servers of the
same type! You can have IPV4 on one adapter while IPV6 runs on another
NIC, for example. One telnet server on port 2323 and one on port 23, etc.

Blacklist DNS and country blocking is not in the new server yet, but
auto banning is. New ban files are whitelist.txt and blacklist.txt in
the DATA directory, so they do not interfere with the existing MIS files.

Entries in these lists can contain a mixture of both IPV4 and IPV6
addresses and can contain a single wildcard, using an asterisk to mask an
IP range. For example "127.*" would block any IPV4 address that begins
with "127.". IPV6 works in the same way, expand the IPV6 address up to the
point where you want to wildcard it, such as "014f:*"

In order to use SSH and SSL variations of servers, you will need to
install Cryptlib. This is pretty basic in Linux and even easier to do in
Windows because it requires simply dropping a file into the library path
or root Mystic directory.

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Black Panther wrote to All <=-

I appologize if this is something that has either been discussed or written about somewhere already. I just got MysticBBS running on my
Ubuntu system, and with the assistance of some really great videos I
found on YouTube (Thanks Paul), it seems to be running great.

My question is in reference to the MIS2 program. My understanding is
that the MIS2 will eventually replace the MIS. Should I be using MIS2
or MIS to run the BBS servers? I tried MIS2, but it didn't look like it had the option of running the events that were set up.

Can anyone clarify the difference between these for me?

MIS - the Mystic of old. Runs telnet, binkp, as well as events, etc. IPv4 only.

MIS2 - runs telnet/rlogin/SSH and binkp, no events or other protocols. IPv4 and IPv6 capable. MIS2 also allows multiple instances of the same protocol on different ports.

No reason you can't run both, provided MIS and MIS2 don't listen on the same ports. I run both, as a matter of fact.


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