On 03-16-19 03:47, johvanv wrote to All <=-
Just wondering how you would setup a ftn or othernet on mystic. I would like to setup my own ftn.
On 03-16-19 03:47, johvanv wrote to All <=-
Just wondering how you would setup a ftn or othernet on mystic. I wou like to setup my own ftn.
Good choice. Mystic is probably one of the easiest options, as you have all you need to run a FTN, and it works pretty well out of the box. I
use Mystic for my FTN hub, because it does the job well and is easy to manage in that ole.
First, as this is a new network, start planning. Pick an unused zone - I suggest a number in the range 2000-4095. For each BBS in the net,
assign net ans node numbers. For a small network, I keep the net at 1
You need to add your othernet address in Echomail Addresses.
In Echomail Nodes, you will need to put the details for all of the other systems in the net that you'll communicate with directly. If you are going to do a traditional hub and spoke model (like I have), that means you'd need an entry for every other node in the net, but the other nodes would only need one for your hub. Other topologies are possible.
I'm guessing there's a video from Mystic Guy that will explain it all
too. :)
One final note - a very small, private net won't need a nodelist. All routing information can be out directly into Mystic for such a small network.
On 03-15-19 20:49, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 16 Mar 2019, Vk3jed said the following...
A good document, created by NuSkooler and maintained by a lot of people
is this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17pmf7cS9ocU99Rm6qlJD_OncqmbDI5Qj 8Yw99A5
bgVc/edit#gid=0
It will allow you to see all available "othernets" and if you want to
make a new one, you will see all the currently used zone numbers, so
you can be sure not to pick one that is already used.
I run a net, and it's a lot of fun, work and more fun. Avon does a
great job running fsxNet, and it can be really rewarding.
I wish you all the best in your little project, and I'm sure there's a bunch of people in here that will be more than happy to answer all your questions and help where they can.
I even went as far as setting up DNS lookups for my net (which
can be used by binkd and other mailers capable of DNS nodelist lookups).
I might be interested in joining your net too.
On 03-16-19 07:55, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
This sounds interesting, I use mystic for my hub in the UK, but Al uses straight binkd for the CA hub. Can this be done with mystic? I don't recall seeing anything mentioned about it either in the docs or in the configuration tool... perhaps not.
I might be interested in joining your net too.
You would be very welcome.
OK, got an infopack or other info to send? :)
On 03-16-19 08:20, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
OK, got an infopack or other info to send? :)
I sure do, if you want to download the infopack it can be gotten from
the website or direct link is https://www.erb.pw/tqwinfo.zip or if you want to log into my bbs, there's a node application program at the main menu when you log in, just press 'N' and it will ask you all the
relevant questions =)
Thanks for testing the netmail to sysop feature :)
Looks like there's an issue as it's setting your address to 0:0/0
[snip]
From : MeaTLoTioN (0:0/0) Msg # : 2997 of 2997
To : Paul Hayton (21:1/101) Msg Date : 16/03/19
Subj : This is a test to Paul Hayton@21:1/101 Refer to : 0
Stat : Echo Priv Read See Also : 0 ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ @INTL 21:1/101 21:1/158
@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A43
@MSGID: 0:0/0 f6ded648
@TZUTC: 0000
@Via: 0:0/0 @20190316.222251.UTC Mystic 1.12 A
This is a test to see if it gets to you at Agency and not the hub.
From Christian =)
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The Quantum Wormhole, Ramsgate, UK. bbs.erb.pw (21:1/158)
[snip]
The node for me is in there, so between it leaving my bbs and getting to your netmail it lost the sender node.
Interesting.
A good document, created by NuSkooler and maintained by a lot of people
is this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17pmf7cS9ocU99Rm6qlJD_OncqmbDI5Qj8Y bgVc/edit#gid=0
This sounds interesting, I use mystic for my hub in the UK, but Al us straight binkd for the CA hub. Can this be done with mystic? I don't recall seeing anything mentioned about it either in the docs or in th configuration tool... perhaps not.
I'm not aware of Mystic support for DNS lookups. Binkd supports it both globally and on a per domain basis. Global configuration is useless, unless you have only one net (Global DNS lookups can also interfere with othernets). If you're interested, I can show you how I set it up.
On 03-17-19 20:19, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
DNS lookups in what sense? From the INA in a nodelist to an IPV4 or
IPV6 address? If so, yes Mystic can do that. If you FidoPoll <Node>
and its not configure in echomail nodes Mystic can search nodelists for
an address and resolve that to IPV4 or IPV6 IP addresses.
Note the domain names after fidonet, fsxnet and vkradio. These tell
binkd that it can do DNS nodelist lookups under the corresponding DNS domain for that FTN. the format is the standard [p<point>].f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.<DNS domain>.
DNS lookups in what sense? From the INA in a nodelist to an IPV4 or
nodelist is not DNS.
I'm referring to being able to look up systems in DNS using hostnames like:
f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.some.domain
Thanks for explanation. I've not heard of people running DNS servers
like this does FidoNet and FSX have one as listed there? I have
On 03-18-19 10:18, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Note the domain names after fidonet, fsxnet and vkradio. These tell
binkd that it can do DNS nodelist lookups under the corresponding DNS domain for that FTN. the format is the standard [p<point>].f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.<DNS domain>.
This is really neat! How are you automatically managing your DNS
entries? I was thinking of doing something like this for tqwNet, but rather than manually adding them I was going to look at how to automate it, but if you're already doing it... maybe I don't need to do as much work lol.
On 03-18-19 11:09, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
DNS lookups in what sense? From the INA in a nodelist to an IPV4 or
nodelist is not DNS.
Yes, but taking an address in it and using a DNS lookup to resolve the address is absolutely using a DNS! ;)
I'm referring to being able to look up systems in DNS using hostnames like:
f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.some.domain
Thanks for explanation. I've not heard of people running DNS servers
like this does FidoNet and FSX have one as listed there? I have
something like this drawn out but its not an actual DNS server it just performs similarly.
How do you manage the DNS configuration? Seems like a lot of work to create all of that stuff for each node considering they're constantly going up and down.
This is really neat! How are you automatically managing your DNS entries? I was thinking of doing something like this for tqwNet, but rather than manually adding them I was going to look at how to automa it, but if you're already doing it... maybe I don't need to do as muc work lol.
I do it as part of my nodelist processing. It works roughly like this:
1. Once a week, MakeNL checks and builds the weekly nodelist.
2. Some time after MakeNL has done its thing, another script updates the master nodelist (a bit of variable-fu in bash), then runs a Perl script
to convert the nodelist into DNS resource records (a mixture of A, CNAME and SRV). The shell script then recycles the DNS server, so it can push updates to the secondary. I'm more than happy to share.
One requirement of this setup is you need a local DNS server on the machine that translates the nodelist. This DNS server needs to be setup as the authoritative primary DNS. FOr reliable, add one or more geographically distributed slaves. I use afraid.org's secondary feature for this.
I'm more than happy to help with the server side setup. I use BIND9 on
my Pi as my authoritative master. As I am actually using a subdomain, I handle delegation internally within my vkradio.com zone.
I have set up specific locally hosted DNS server for fsxnet.nz and
offer both custom domains for bbsname.fsxnet.nz to point to their static IP address as well as the using the more legacy style addressing schema for all nodes e.g. f101.n1.z21.fsxnet.nz to redirect to the entry in the nodelist such as ipv4.agency.bbs.nz
Happy to work with you on any/all ways that Mystic might wish to use / experiment with this stuff.
On 03-23-19 21:59, g00r00 wrote to Avon <=-
If you guys want me to add that legacy lookup I can certainly do it.
It shouldn't take much effort. I would probably just add in a "FTN
DNS" field in the editor where you define your echomail address/domain.
The thing is YABA sort of replaces this idea, seeing as it would have
that sort of lookup available to it and it wouldn't involve setting up
and maintaining DNS server at all it'd just always work.
I have to consider the idea of "feature bloat" too.
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