Does anyone know if it's possible to go to a certain menu from the Matrix
logon menu? I tried GO and GS plus menu name in the data field but none
work. Thanks

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Does anyone know if it's possible to go to a certain menu from the Matrix logon menu? I tried GO and GS plus menu name in the data field but none work. Thanks

You have to be logged IN first before you can go to any menu.
You cant have access to much of anything until you commit your info.

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ß²Ü°ß HOIST THE COLOURS ßÛÜÛß
þþþ NEVER SHALL WE DIE. ÝÝÞ

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You have to be logged IN first before you can go to any menu.
You cant have access to much of anything until you commit your info.

That's what I though. I will keep playing with this. Thanks

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You have to be logged IN first before you can go to any menu.
You cant have access to much of anything until you commit your info.

I have seen some pretty neat weather "doors" on some of the boards that Avon visits in his youtube videos. I assume one cannot put those on the matrix menu, either?

Mike

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Does anyone know if it's possible to go to a certain menu from the Matrix logon menu? I tried GO and GS plus menu name in the data field but none work. Thanks

I don't believe you can. The matrix menu only has a set # of commands that
can be used from it (commands from the MATRIX set only if I'm not mistaken)

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I have seen some pretty neat weather "doors" on some of the boards that Avon visits in his youtube videos. I assume one cannot put those on the matrix menu, either?

What if you made a menu that had a security of 0 and went to that menu
and returned you back to the matrix menu?

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On 11/10/16, Night Stalker said the following...

Does anyone know if it's possible to go to a certain menu from the Ma logon menu? I tried GO and GS plus menu name in the data field but n work. Thanks

I don't believe you can. The matrix menu only has a set # of commands
that can be used from it (commands from the MATRIX set only if I'm not mistaken)

Gonna say do MPL and see if that can be a work a round for that.

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I have seen some pretty neat weather "doors" on some of the boards that Avon visits in his youtube videos. I assume one cannot put those on the matrix menu, either?

What if you made a menu that had a security of 0 and went to that menu
and returned you back to the matrix menu?

Hmmmm.... interesting. I might try that once I figure out where to get those neat doors. :)

Mike

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On 11/10/16, Necromaster said the following...

Does anyone know if it's possible to go to a certain menu from the Matrix logon menu? I tried GO and GS plus menu name in the data field but none work. Thanks
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I doubt it, not made to do that. That would also make it easier to hack. I think it's to pick themes mostly, possibly telnet ports. Could make a theme that starts with the GO or GS though. Themes can share the same data, text,
and menus - would have to use a custom menus directory, but all others can
stay the same. A theme can be tiny and only do one thing if you want.

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You might just need to have a second copy of Mystic to telnet to if you want to use Mystic as a frontend for 3 BBSes (1 of them Mystic). At
least until I can recycle the session. Maybe next weekend I could work
on that.

Come check out Mystic Prison BBS. I have a Matrix menu where they can choose to continue to logon to Mystic or logon to other bbs's that I run.

pb.darktech.org:24

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

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Come check out Mystic Prison BBS. I have a Matrix menu where they can choose to continue to logon to Mystic or logon to other bbs's that I run.

Nice, would I love to get my hands on a copy like that!

Nice I'll have to check it out!


Havok

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|10On 04/09/18, Havok said the following...|10

Come check out Mystic Prison BBS. I have a Matrix menu where they ca choose to continue to logon to Mystic or logon to other bbs's that I

Nice, would I love to get my hands on a copy like that!

Nice I'll have to check it out!

Ok, come on by!

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

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You might just need to have a second copy of Mystic to telnet to if
you want to use Mystic as a frontend for 3 BBSes (1 of them Mystic).
At least until I can recycle the session. Maybe next weekend I could
work on that.

ROFLMAO. I've been trying to convince Chuck to do exactly that for
weeks. I could have had the whole setup operational in 15 minutes using
a 2nd copy of Mystic since we only needed the Matrix Menu and nothing
else, but I digress.

If you're going to be looking at more of the Matrix Menu operations kind
of things. Consider this if you would please. Before I brought this
idea to Chuck in the first place I ran a lot of different tests locally
to see what would be the best way to accomplish what we're doing with it.
One of my tests included a SubMenu to allow what is typically the Matrix
Menu options on a SubMenu of the initial menu. Where I could get it to
go to the SubMenu, It wouldn't actually execute the typical Matrix Menu commands from a SubMenu. Matrix commands had to be ran from that initial
menu or not at all.

Under the current way using a single copy of Mystic to do the job we have
to put another option on the initial page which is New User to Mystic.
I'd rather that initial page to just be Option 1,2,3,D. Either of the 3
BBS's or Disconnect. (As every goodbye will lead you back to this page.)
When you Select 1 it should login to Mystic, which it does if you already
have an account, but could not find a way to address New Users without
doing it directly on that Matrix Menu. (The first screen that comes up)

In all actuality, besides being used for a Front End, we don't actually
need the typical Matrix menu options. To have the ability to pass to the non-matrix login from the Matrix menu (or any pre-login menu really)
would be ideal, but nothing I could come up with would pass to the normal
login from the Matrix menu.

After exhausting those options, that's when I came to the conclusion that
a 2nd copy of Mystic would be needed to make everything flow right.
That's where Chuck and I butt heads because he doesn't want yet another software running all the time, so in the end it's his system and he'll do
it however he thinks is best for him. It's still a great idea. If some
tweaks could be made to make the login/new user signup flow better
without having to put user options on the first screen they see, that
would be awesome.

One other thing that comes up from using a single copy of Mystic is that
that if someone logs into either of the other two BBS's, Mystic will perpetually show that node as constantly logging in. It would nice to
have a way of reporting that a user logged into one of the other BBS
packages. That's superficial really, but would just be nice to be able
to see something other than perpetually logging into Mystic, when they're outside of Mystic on that Node.

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You might just need to have a second copy of Mystic to telnet to
want to use Mystic as a frontend for 3 BBSes (1 of them Mystic). least until I can recycle the session. Maybe next weekend I coul
on that.

Come check out Mystic Prison BBS. I have a Matrix menu where they
can choose to continue to logon to Mystic or logon to other bbs's
that I run.

pb.darktech.org:24

That's pretty slick, which is similar to what we have going, but I really
don't want all that Apply For Access, check for access stuff going on.
Just need the BBS you want to login to options. The system is open, so
nobody really needs to apply. Just login or setup a new user account.

To make it flow the right way, the first screen should merely be a BBS selection screen. The next screen should be the login to each respective
BBS. Although, we can only work with what we have to work with. It
works, if not a bit clunky. I'm just too much of a perfectionist to let something like that be displayed to someone live.

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Ok, come on by!

Will do!


Havok

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On 04/08/18, g00r00 said the following...

No, you can't load the matrix menu from anywhere thats not how it works. :(

That would have been PERFECT! :) it does go back to the matrix menu, but the other 2 BBS's can be loaded so that's good enough for now.

Recycling the session is something I'd like to look into but it could cause big problems if I screw it up. Mystic wasn't even structured to
do it until A35 so I have been moving in that direction. Such changes were also made for the draft message system in A39 as well.

You might just need to have a second copy of Mystic to telnet to if you want to use Mystic as a frontend for 3 BBSes (1 of them Mystic). At
least until I can recycle the session. Maybe next weekend I could work
on that.

It's running fine with one copy of every program, the only issue I'm having
is that users can use the other 2 BBS's. I figure they signed off mystic so
now the can use one of the other 2 or just log off. the loopback works. It would be cool to even add a command to 'sign into bbs' instead of the matrix sign in?

Regards and thanks!

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On 04/08/18, g00r00 said the following...

No, you can't load the matrix menu from anywhere thats not how it
:(

That would have been PERFECT! :) it does go back to the matrix menu,
but the other 2 BBS's can be loaded so that's good enough for now.

Recycling the session is something I'd like to look into but it c cause big problems if I screw it up. Mystic wasn't even structur
do it until A35 so I have been moving in that direction. Such ch
were also made for the draft message system in A39 as well.

You might just need to have a second copy of Mystic to telnet to
want to use Mystic as a frontend for 3 BBSes (1 of them Mystic). least until I can recycle the session. Maybe next weekend I coul
on that.

It's running fine with one copy of every program, the only issue I'm
having is that users can use the other 2 BBS's. I figure they signed
off mystic so now the can use one of the other 2 or just log off. the loopback works. It would be cool to even add a command to 'sign into
bbs' instead of the matrix sign in?

Regards and thanks!

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(21:2/105)

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It's running fine with one copy of every program, the only issue I'm
having is that users can use the other 2 BBS's. I figure they signed
off mystic so now the can use one of the other 2 or just log off. the loopback works. It would be cool to even add a command to 'sign into
bbs' instead of the matrix sign in?

I really should post on our board, you'd see I already covered all that.
:P

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go to the SubMenu, It wouldn't actually execute the typical Matrix Menu commands from a SubMenu. Matrix commands had to be ran from that initial menu or not at all.

Mystic should be forcing only the matrix menu to be used while on the matrix menu. There are reasons why matrix login functionality is specific to its own menu...

A lot of menu and BBS functionality require (and assume) that a user is already logged in, for example. People really will try to "GO MAIN" from Matrix if you let them (or vice versa)!

it however he thinks is best for him. It's still a great idea. If some tweaks could be made to make the login/new user signup flow better
without having to put user options on the first screen they see, that would be awesome.

I don't think its a problem of bad flow. The Matrix login is designed to implement a very specific type of login flow, and it does exactly what it is supposed to do. The entire point of it is that users don't get stuck in a full login process by being at the user prompt!

The matrix wasn't designed to be a front end for other BBS software! But...

I am willing to make some changes that will allow it to work optimally though. You could also use MPL and startup.mpx and not use the Matrix at all but the ideas I have planned will render that unneeded.

One of the items on my TODO is a "logout and restart session" command. Its been on my list for many years (along with the draft messages) but neither were possible until I did a major restructure back in A35. Now that drafts are done, I can move forward with this option as well.

On my list of "ideas to look into" is the option to allow Mystic to go to the full login from Matrix, which is exactly what you want. These two options will give you functionality that is exactly what you're looking for!

Messing with the user login process always brings the risk of bugs that could compromise security or corrupt user data so I hope you will be willing to
test it!

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|10On 04/09/18, GeekDoctor said the following...|10

Come check out Mystic Prison BBS. I have a Matrix menu where they pb.darktech.org:24

That's pretty slick, which is similar to what we have going, but I really don't want all that Apply For Access, check for access stuff going on.

Thanks. I really don't need to have the Apply for Access or Check. That actually can be removed as selecting the bbs you want to go to will give you th opportunity to logon as a current user or as a New user.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

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*snip*

Messing with the user login process always brings the risk of bugs
that could compromise security or corrupt user data so I hope you
will be willing to test it!

That sounds good to me, though it will be up to Chuck / KrUpTiOn to
implement since I can't from remote. I'm sure he'll be more than happy
to.

...and yes, that does sound like it would be perfect.

Thanks.

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Thanks. I really don't need to have the Apply for Access or Check.
That actually can be removed as selecting the bbs you want to go to
will give you th opportunity to logon as a current user or as a New
user.

Mystic doesn't currently function in a way that you can have the Matrix
login without applying for Access. We changed it last night so that the
"New User" Command actually triggers the "Apply for access". That goes
through a different New User Signup than it does without the Matrix Menu,
but it works. We have found a need to use the Check for Access, but
that may be the way Chuck has the New Users access opened up. I'm not
sure. Maybe a security issue. I"m not sure. I haven't noticed anything
to be concerned about though.

If you look at g00r00's other message. It does appear like there may be upcoming changes that we could test out in this regard.

Yeah, it's not intended to be used as a front end, but I do like the fact
that we can use it as one and with the changes he's talked about, it does appear that it would have a better flow for this purpose.

Since you're essentially doing the same thing we are, you may want to
test that out as well when it becomes available.

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GeekDoctor wrote to g00r00 <=-

That sounds good to me, though it will be up to Chuck / KrUpTiOn to implement since I can't from remote. I'm sure he'll be more than happy to.

And it sounds like you guys really do need that test BBS for more "risky" pre-alphas that risk data corruption. Oh, and good backups. :D


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GeekDoctor wrote to g00r00 <=-

That sounds good to me, though it will be up to Chuck / KrUpTiOn implement since I can't from remote. I'm sure he'll be more than
to.

And it sounds like you guys really do need that test BBS for more
"risky" pre-alphas that risk data corruption. Oh, and good backups.
:D

Ha! That's been what I've been saying all along. I'm all for testing.
I've always been for testing since my allfix and beemail beta team
testing days back in the 90's. You do have to be prepared for that, "OH
NO!" moment.

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but it works. We have found a need to use the Check for Access, but
that may be the way Chuck has the New Users access opened up. I'm not

You only need to use check for access if you're using a Matrix login password or blocking it by an increased security level (that for example would be increased by the Sysop or a "new user voting" processing)

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On 04/10/18, g00r00 said the following...

One of the items on my TODO is a "logout and restart session" command.
Its been on my list for many years (along with the draft messages) but neither were possible until I did a major restructure back in A35. Now that drafts are done, I can move forward with this option as well.

THAT would be PERFECT!! :)~

On my list of "ideas to look into" is the option to allow Mystic to go
to the full login from Matrix, which is exactly what you want. These two options will give you functionality that is exactly what you're looking for!

Yes yes yes!!!!

Messing with the user login process always brings the risk of bugs that could compromise security or corrupt user data so I hope you will be willing to test it!

Hell I wanna be the FIRST to download it!! LOL :)

Thank you!!

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On 04/11/18, Vk3jed said the following...

And it sounds like you guys really do need that test BBS for more "risky" pre-alphas that risk data corruption. Oh, and good backups. :D

I keep backups on Google drive and on my external HDD! :)

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GeekDoctor wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Ha! That's been what I've been saying all along. I'm all for testing. I've always been for testing since my allfix and beemail beta team
testing days back in the 90's. You do have to be prepared for that,
"OH NO!" moment.

Just have to make sure that happwns! :)


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KrUpTiOn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I keep backups on Google drive and on my external HDD! :)

Cool. :)


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On 04/11/18, Vk3jed said the following...

And it sounds like you guys really do need that test BBS for more pre-alphas that risk data corruption. Oh, and good backups. :D

I keep backups on Google drive and on my external HDD! :)

Now you do. :P

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If you look at g00r00's other message. It does appear like there may be upcoming changes that we could test out in this regard.

Yeah, it's not intended to be used as a front end, but I do like the fact that we can use it as one and with the changes he's talked about, it does appear that it would have a better flow for this purpose.

Since you're essentially doing the same thing we are, you may want to
test that out as well when it becomes available.

I will test it out as it becomes available.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/11 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

Hell I wanna be the FIRST to download it!! LOL :)

Thank you!!

In the next prealpha!! I'll probably release this after midnight or tomorrow (sometime 4/12)

+ The FU (File upload) menu command now has a new optional data command
called "/current". If this option is specified, Mystic will attempt
to upload to the current file base even if a specific file base has been
configured for uploads.

+ The GH and GI (Goodbye and Hang up Immediately) menu commands have a new
optional data option. If "/RECYCLE" supplied, Mystic will log the current
user out and restart the session as if the user just connected to the BBS.

+ The XL (Matrix Login) command now has a new optional data option. If /FULL
is supplied, the typical Matrix login will be immediately skipped and the
user will be presented the standard login process. This is intended to
allow people to use the Matrix login for things other than a Matrix-style
log in.

Enjoy :)

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* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)

On 04/11/18, g00r00 said the following...

In the next prealpha!! I'll probably release this after midnight or tomorrow (sometime 4/12)

Wow, you have been busy! Have you slept at all this week? ;)

+ The FU (File upload) menu command now has a new optional data command

I still get a kick out of the 'FU' command... It would come in handy at work too... ;)


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Sysop - Castle Rock BBS (RCS)
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
The sparrows are flying again....

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On 04/11/18, Vk3jed said the following...

I keep backups on Google drive and on my external HDD! :)

Cool. :)

I gotta figure out a way where it will back up everything automaticly opposed to me doing it manually, I gotta do a backup tonight!

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On 04/11/18, g00r00 said the following...

In the next prealpha!! I'll probably release this after midnight or tomorrow (sometime 4/12)

+ The GH and GI (Goodbye and Hang up Immediately) menu commands have a new optional data option. If "/RECYCLE" supplied, Mystic will log the current user out and restart the session as if the user just connected

OMG!!! YES!!! Just what I need! :)~~

+ The XL (Matrix Login) command now has a new optional data option. If /FULL is supplied, the typical Matrix login will be immediately skipped and the user will be presented the standard login process. This is

More good stuff! :)~~

God.. you got me slobbering over the changes, before you post new stuff
again, I need fair warning so I can wear a slobber bib! :)~~ (damnit! there
it goes again!) LOL

thank you so much, you are AWESOME! :)~ (shit! more slober!)

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On 04/11/18, Black Panther pondered and said...

+ The FU (File upload) menu command now has a new optional data comm

I still get a kick out of the 'FU' command... It would come in handy at

Yep I read you on that ... my mind (sadly) went in that direction also :)

Imagine the DATA switches that could come into play here - sigh :)

/andthecamelyourodeinon

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KrUpTiOn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I gotta figure out a way where it will back up everything automaticly opposed to me doing it manually, I gotta do a backup tonight!

Yes, that would help! I've got the same problem. :/


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+ The FU (File upload) menu command now has a new optional data

I still get a kick out of the 'FU' command... It would come in handy

Yep I read you on that ... my mind (sadly) went in that direction also :)

+ The FU command now has a new optional command: /ahole. When calling FU
/ahole, Mystic will give the option for users to upload a file for the
SysOp only, called the "archive hole". Files in the archive hole can only
be seen by the Sysop.

(I am about 11 or 12 days too late with this feature)

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On 04/12/18, g00r00 pondered and said...

+ The FU command now has a new optional command: /ahole. When calling FU
/ahole, Mystic will give the option for users to upload a file for the
SysOp only, called the "archive hole". Files in the archive hole can only be seen by the Sysop.

Bahahahahahahaha....

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On 04/11/18, Vk3jed said the following...

I keep backups on Google drive and on my external HDD! :)

Cool. :)

I gotta figure out a way where it will back up everything automaticly opposed to me doing it manually, I gotta do a backup tonight!

Windows makes that really easy. The google drive program you can
download and install turns google drive into a drive letter. Then it's
just a matter of triggering a file copy through an event.

Maybe they have something similar for linux?

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On 04/12/18, Vk3jed said the following...

I gotta figure out a way where it will back up everything automaticly opposed to me doing it manually, I gotta do a backup tonight!

Yes, that would help! I've got the same problem. :/

If I can figure out a solution, I'll let ya know, and you do the same! :)

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On 04/12/18, g00r00 said the following...

+ The FU command now has a new optional command: /ahole. When calling FU
/ahole, Mystic will give the option for users to upload a file for the
SysOp only, called the "archive hole". Files in the archive hole can only be seen by the Sysop.

I love it! It actually took me a minute to figure out if you were serious or not... ;)


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On 04/11/18, g00r00 said the following...

In the next prealpha!! I'll probably release this after midnight tomorrow (sometime 4/12)

+ The GH and GI (Goodbye and Hang up Immediately) menu commands
new optional data option. If "/RECYCLE" supplied, Mystic will lo current user out and restart the session as if the user just conn

OMG!!! YES!!! Just what I need! :)~~

+ The XL (Matrix Login) command now has a new optional data opti /FULL is supplied, the typical Matrix login will be immediately s
and the user will be presented the standard login process. This

More good stuff! :)~~

God.. you got me slobbering over the changes, before you post new
stuff again, I need fair warning so I can wear a slobber bib! :)~~
(damnit! there it goes again!) LOL

thank you so much, you are AWESOME! :)~ (shit! more slober!)

All of the above:

Tested, works good including the Sysop can upload wherever and users go
to uploads only. So remember you'll have to upload specifically to where
you want files to go.

Although, I was considering leave the Upload command as is and change the
other to /U so you specifically have to be trying to upload to a specific directory and not accidentally upload all your porn to the Mystic BBS
section. :P LOL

Don't forget to remove "New Users" from the Matrix Ansi now. It's not
needed anymore.


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Hello GeekDoctor!

12 Apr 18 09:02, you wrote to KrUpTiOn:

I gotta figure out a way where it will back up everything
automaticly opposed to me doing it manually, I gotta do a backup
tonight!

Windows makes that really easy. The google drive program you can
download and install turns google drive into a drive letter. Then
it's just a matter of triggering a file copy through an event.

Maybe they have something similar for linux?

On Linux I use Rsync to backup stuff to either a local or network location.
It has a multitude of options available to the user.


Jeff


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KrUpTiOn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On 04/12/18, Vk3jed said the following...

I gotta figure out a way where it will back up everything automaticly opposed to me doing it manually, I gotta do a backup tonight!

Yes, that would help! I've got the same problem. :/

If I can figure out a solution, I'll let ya know, and you do the same!
:)

I at least have cron on my side. :D


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g00r00 wrote to Avon <=-

+ The FU command now has a new optional command: /ahole. When calling
FU
/ahole, Mystic will give the option for users to upload a file for
the
SysOp only, called the "archive hole". Files in the archive hole can only
be seen by the Sysop.

(I am about 11 or 12 days too late with this feature)

Hahaha, I had to check the date - you're 12 days too late. :D


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GeekDoctor wrote to KrUpTiOn <=-

Windows makes that really easy. The google drive program you can
download and install turns google drive into a drive letter. Then it's just a matter of triggering a file copy through an event.

Maybe they have something similar for linux?

Linux has better scheduling. I've found a way to make my OneDrive accessible. The harder part is coordingating downtime for full backups. I could do a "configuration backup" easily without shutting anything down.




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On 04/12/18, Jeff Smith said the following...

On Linux I use Rsync to backup stuff to either a local or network location. It has a multitude of options available to the user.

I'll have to look for that...

Thanks

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Maybe they have something similar for linux?

Linux has better scheduling. I've found a way to make my OneDrive

... on Linux I use gshell... it's python command line utility ... installed
by pip install gshell.
Usage is gshell upload <file> and gshell download <file> etc... if I recall correctly.

Regards

Shinobi

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shinobi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Maybe they have something similar for linux?

Linux has better scheduling. I've found a way to make my OneDrive

... on Linux I use gshell... it's python command line utility ... installed by pip install gshell.
Usage is gshell upload <file> and gshell download <file> etc... if I recall correctly.

For working with..? google drive? (lost a bit too much context).


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... on Linux I use gshell... it's python command line utility ... installed by pip install gshell.
Usage is gshell upload <file> and gshell download <file> etc... if I recall correctly.

For working with..? google drive? (lost a bit too much context).

Yes. That's it. I hope I didn't response to different message. However gshell can be used to backup any files to google drive from Linux Command Line.

If that's out of topic, please just ignore. Sorry & best regards Shinobi

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shinobi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yes. That's it. I hope I didn't response to different message. However gshell can be used to backup any files to google drive from Linux
Command Line.

If that's out of topic, please just ignore. Sorry & best regards
Shinobi

It did follow on from previous discussion, where Google Drive was mentioned in the context of Windows, then Linux was mentioned. So all good, and useful information. :)


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+ The FU (File upload) menu command now has a new opti

I still get a kick out of the 'FU' command... It would come

Yep I read you on that ... my mind (sadly) went in that direction

+ The FU command now has a new optional command: /ahole. When
calling FU
/ahole, Mystic will give the option for users to upload a file for
the
SysOp only, called the "archive hole". Files in the archive hole
can only
be seen by the Sysop.

(I am about 11 or 12 days too late with this feature)

FU /ahole

hahaha. That is too funny.

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On 04/12/18, Vk3jed said the following...

I gotta figure out a way where it will back up everything au opposed to me doing it manually, I gotta do a backup tonight

Yes, that would help! I've got the same problem. :/

If I can figure out a solution, I'll let ya know, and you do the
same! :)

If it were a windows system it would be easy for me to write the batch
file to do it, but since it's linux, you'll have to write the script.

First, setup google drive so it's accessible from the command line. See
this link.

https://www.howtogeek.com/196635/an-official-google-drive-for-linux-is-her e-sort-of-maybe-this-is-all-well-ever-get/

From there it's just a simple event trigger from inside mystic to trigger
your script to backup to google drive.

You could also just zip up your /var/opt/ directory and that will get all
3 BBS's plus all the files and just set the destination as the mounted
path to the external HDD. That will backup to the external HDD and just trigger a copy over to google drive.

All from the script. It shouldn't be that difficult. All the tools are
right there.


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On 04/12/18, Jeff Smith said the following...

On Linux I use Rsync to backup stuff to either a local or network location. It has a multitude of options available to the user.

I'll have to look for that...

I've always preferred zipped up dated backups over Sync to a remote
location. Sync usually just makes the remote the same as on the local.
That's fine for archival like just the file area files themselves, but
for anything that has configuration data, I'd rather see in dated zip
backups. That way, when you screw something up, you have backup to
revert to. Sync, you just have the same screw up you already have
screwed up.

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GeekDoctor wrote to KrUpTiOn <=-

I've always preferred zipped up dated backups over Sync to a remote location. Sync usually just makes the remote the same as on the local. That's fine for archival like just the file area files themselves, but
for anything that has configuration data, I'd rather see in dated zip backups. That way, when you screw something up, you have backup to
revert to. Sync, you just have the same screw up you already have
screwed up.

Yes, horses for courses. Dated zipped backups are the best for configuration and other things that can be screwed up at any point in time. Nothing worse than that "OH SHIT!!!" moment when you've hosed your configs, and nothing better than when you realised you had just made a backup before screwing it up! :D


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Come check out Mystic Prison BBS. I have a Matrix menu where they can
choose to continue to logon to Mystic or logon to other bbs's that I run.

pb.darktech.org:24

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz

I have been running the same way over here, thanks for Ruben. He helped me awhile back sending screen shots.

Ruben - Have you ever tried binary file transfers on any of your BBS nodes that
hang off the matrix menu?

- Mark
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I have been running the same way over here, thanks for Ruben. He helped me awhile back sending screen shots.

Ruben - Have you ever tried binary file transfers on any of your BBS
nodes that hang off the matrix menu?

Memory serves me correct I did and it worked. At one time I did have a
problem but not now. I will do another test and let you know.\

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
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telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

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Memory serves me correct I did and it worked. At one time I did have a problem but not now. I will do another test and let you know.\

Yes, please let me know. I upgraded to the latest pre-alpha-39 of Mystic this past weekend. Tried my transfer section on my WWIV nodes behind SIO/VMODEM and
all binary transfers still CRC error out. Text transfers work fine, though.

- Mark
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Yes, please let me know. I upgraded to the latest pre-alpha-39 of
Mystic this past weekend. Tried my transfer section on my WWIV nodes behind SIO/VMODEM and all binary transfers still CRC error out. Text transfers work fine, though.

Didn't have any problems up or down loads using zmodem or !sexyz

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
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Didn't have any problems up or down loads using zmodem or !sexyz

Interesting.. Did you test your WWIV nodes too? Are you running everything on
Windows?

It seems DOS emulators (like DOSEMU/DOSBox) along with eCS (SIO/VMODEM - serial/telnet emulation) are the ones having the problem. From what I understand, both are telnet/serial emulators vs. a native telnet style solution.

Not sure what the answer is at this point.

- Mark
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Didn't have any problems up or down loads using zmodem or !sexyz

Interesting.. Did you test your WWIV nodes too? Are you running everything on
Windows?

It seems DOS emulators (like DOSEMU/DOSBox) along with eCS
(SIO/VMODEM -
serial/telnet emulation) are the ones having the problem. From what
I
understand, both are telnet/serial emulators vs. a native telnet
style
solution.

Not sure what the answer is at this point.

I don't think that is a Mystic thing though. From what I've seen so far,
I would be more inclined to think the issue is because of multiple
conversions.

Telnet - Mystic - Virtual Com port - Fossil Driver - BBS Software

That's a lot more communicating and data conversions than it was when it
was just...

Com Port - BBS Software

I think it's more in that Virtual Com port and Fossil Driver combination.
I don't think that is something that can be fix on the Mystic side.
Maybe something could be fixed on the Virtual com port side of things to
better translate into what the Telnet client needs for binary transfers.
I'm not sure who you'd be able to look to for that one.

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Interesting.. Did you test your WWIV nodes too? Are you running everything on Windows?

My WWIV is down, crashed and didn't / haven't tried to resurrect.

It seems DOS emulators (like DOSEMU/DOSBox) along with eCS (SIO/VMODEM - serial/telnet emulation) are the ones having the problem. From what I understand, both are telnet/serial emulators vs. a native telnet style solution.

None of what I tested were running in DOS EMULATORS. All were windows 7 and 20 OS. However two of my bbs's are running in VMWARE. I didn't test those two out but will do so shortly.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
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None of what I tested were running in DOS EMULATORS. All were windows 7
and 20 OS. However two of my bbs's are running in VMWARE. I didn't test those two out but will do so shortly.

I was just looking at NetSerial to see how that handles interfacing with native
COM ports. There is an option to "Request Binary Connection". No such thing exists on the SIO drivers, but binary transfers work fine when you telnet directly to it from a client.

Without asking Ray Gwinn how the binary hand-shaking works, I have no idea.

I wish I could test the BBS nodes under NetSerial, but the physical nodes won't
run on WIN/32 properly. The legacy code has too many references to native DOS
and will crash the NTVDM.

- Mark
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