• Setting up FidoNet

    From nathanael@21:4/123 to All on Saturday, January 26, 2019 12:10:20
    Just worked my way through Paul's video on setting up FidoNet. I don't think
    I missed any steps, but when I run fidopoll 3:770/1 I get "No hostname
    defined for 3:770/1". I realize the video's a couple of years old. Is the hub still active?

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  • From Cmech@21:2/117 to Nathanael on Friday, January 25, 2019 22:43:32
    * An ongoing debate between nathanael and All rages on ...

    think I missed any steps, but when I run fidopoll 3:770/1 I get "No hostname defined for 3:770/1". I realize the video's a couple of years

    Yup, make sure your BinkP hostname for the 3:770/1 node is set to agency.bbs.nz


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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Cmech on Saturday, January 26, 2019 15:12:43
    Yup, make sure your BinkP hostname for the 3:770/1 node is set to

    That's what's got me scratching my head -- assuming this means under Networking/Echomail Nodes, it is. My settings there are:

    Active: Yes
    Description: Agency HUB
    Address: 3:770/1
    [...]
    BINKP Hostname: agency.bbs.nz

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:4/132.1 to nathanael on Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:06:23
    That's what's got me scratching my head -- assuming this means under Networking/Echomail Nodes, it is. My settings there are:

    You have to restart mystic server every time you make a change to your
    EchoMail Nodes. Try restarting mis and try again.

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Michael Borthwick on Sunday, January 27, 2019 09:40:45
    You have to restart mystic server every time you make a change to your EchoMail Nodes. Try restarting mis and try again.

    In fact, I shut down everything, rebooted the pi, and repolled:

    pi@mysticbbs:/mystic $ ./fidopoll 3:770/1

    FIDOPOLL Version 1.12 A41 2018/12/27

    Scanning 3:770/1
    Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    No hostname defined for 3:770/1

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  • From Cmech@21:2/117 to Nathanael on Saturday, January 26, 2019 20:41:08
    * An ongoing debate between nathanael and Michael Borthwick rages on ...

    Scanning 3:770/1
    Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    No hostname defined for 3:770/1

    Fire up Mystic Config, pull up 3:770/1 BinkD screen, press Enter on Hostname and immediately press Backspace (clears the field) then re-type agency.bbs.nz and press Enter. Exit config and re-start MIS, try again :) If you have anything strange embedded in Hostname field you can't see, this will clear it :)


    My options for 3:770/1 BinkD:

    === snip ===
    BINKP Hostname agency.bbs.nz 1:General
    IP Type IPV4 2:Security
    Password ******* 3:Groups
    Time Out 30 4:BINKP
    Block Size 16384 5:FTP
    CRAM-MD5 Yes 6:Dir Toss
    Use SSL/TLS Yes
    Hide AKAs No
    === snip ===


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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Cmech on Sunday, January 27, 2019 14:32:51
    Hostname and immediately press Backspace (clears the field) then re-type agency.bbs.nz and press Enter. Exit config and re-start MIS, try again

    Done. Same result.

    pi@mysticbbs:/mystic $ ./fidopoll 3:770/1

    FIDOPOLL Version 1.12 A41 2018/12/27

    Scanning 3:770/1
    Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    No hostname defined for 3:770/1

    And from fidopoll.log

    Jan 27 13:29:56 FIDOPOLL Version 1.12 A41 2018/12/27
    Jan 27 13:29:56 Scanning 3:770/1
    Jan 27 13:29:56 Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    Jan 27 13:29:56 No hostname defined for 3:770/1

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Cmech on Sunday, January 27, 2019 14:36:37
    My options for 3:770/1 BinkD:

    Mine were the same except for Use SSL/TLS and Hide AKAs.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to nathanael on Saturday, January 26, 2019 22:41:06
    Jan 27 13:29:56 FIDOPOLL Version 1.12 A41 2018/12/27
    Jan 27 13:29:56 Scanning 3:770/1
    Jan 27 13:29:56 Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    Jan 27 13:29:56 No hostname defined for 3:770/1

    Do you have a fidonet nodelist included in your MergeNodelists area of your mutil.ini? Can you list 3:770/1 in the nodelist browser?

    Maybe you'll need to put the info in the BINKP Hostname section of the echomail
    node for that entry.

    Curious why that doesn't work though.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to nathanael on Sunday, January 27, 2019 19:52:18
    On 27 Jan 2019, nathanael pondered and said...

    Hostname and immediately press Backspace (clears the field) then re-t agency.bbs.nz and press Enter. Exit config and re-start MIS, try agai

    Done. Same result.

    pi@mysticbbs:/mystic $ ./fidopoll 3:770/1

    FIDOPOLL Version 1.12 A41 2018/12/27

    Scanning 3:770/1
    Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    No hostname defined for 3:770/1

    And from fidopoll.log

    Jan 27 13:29:56 FIDOPOLL Version 1.12 A41 2018/12/27
    Jan 27 13:29:56 Scanning 3:770/1
    Jan 27 13:29:56 Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    Jan 27 13:29:56 No hostname defined for 3:770/1


    Hmm

    Active ³ Yes
    Description ³ Agency HUB (Fido
    SysOp Name ³
    Address ³ 3:770/1
    Domain ³ fidonet
    Session Type ³ BinkP
    Archive Type ³
    Export Type ³ Crash
    Route Info ³ 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:*
    Max PKT Size ³ 512
    Max ARC Size ³ 2048
    Use Filebox ³ No
    Filebox Dir ³

    do you have the domain name stated as per above?

    Best, Paul

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:4/132.1 to Avon on Sunday, January 27, 2019 19:03:27

    do you have the domain name stated as per above?


    Have you tried deleting the node entry, restarting mis, then adding a new
    node entry. Perhaps it hasn't saved properly in the data files and a
    deletion and restart will resolve this?

    I did some testing, the only time I get the no hostname defined is if
    there is an empty field there. An incorrect dns domain name wilge
    get 'Connecting to' and 'Unable to connect' error.

    Anything else like garbage or spaces will give a different error.

    So either the configurator isn't saving the hostname in the data files or
    it's a new bug.

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Al on Sunday, January 27, 2019 17:37:47
    Do you have a fidonet nodelist included in your MergeNodelists area of your mutil.ini? Can you list 3:770/1 in the nodelist browser?

    Maybe you'll need to put the info in the BINKP Hostname section of the echomail node for that entry.

    I've never set up any node lists, so my mutil.ini is just stock:

    [General]
    MergeNodeLists = false

    [MergeNodeLists]
    strip_down = true
    strip_private = true
    nodefile=d:\nodelists\nodelist
    nodefile=d:\nodelists\agoranet

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Avon on Sunday, January 27, 2019 17:53:17
    Session Type ³ BinkP

    There's the culprit. Turns out my neighbor snuck in while I was sleeping last night and changed Session Type to FTP. I'll have words with him later, then next week I'll be moving to a better neighborhood :-)

    So no more complaints from fidopoll:

    pi@mysticbbs:/mystic $ ./fidopoll 3:770/1

    FIDOPOLL Version 1.12 A41 2018/12/27

    Scanning 3:770/1
    Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    Polling BINKP node 3:770/1 by IPV4
    Connecting to agency.bbs.nz
    Connected IPV4 to 219.89.83.33
    System Agency HUB
    SysOp Paul Hayton
    Location Dunedin, New Zealand
    Info NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
    Info TIME Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:41:18 +1300
    Info TRF 0 0
    Session ended (0 sent, 0 rcvd, 0 skip)

    However, I got zero messages despite being subscribed to 195 echoes.

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to nathanael on Sunday, January 27, 2019 18:01:55
    Scanning 3:770/1
    Queued 0 files (0 bytes) to 3:770/1
    No hostname defined for 3:770/1

    Just a thought, but could that last line be made a bit more informative, like:

    No hostname defined for FTP node 3:770/1

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to nathanael on Sunday, January 27, 2019 23:17:58
    On 27 Jan 2019, nathanael pondered and said...

    There's the culprit. Turns out my neighbor snuck in while I was sleeping last night and changed Session Type to FTP. I'll have words with him later, then next week I'll be moving to a better neighborhood :-)

    Good catch

    Info TIME Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:41:18 +1300
    Info TRF 0 0
    Session ended (0 sent, 0 rcvd, 0 skip)

    However, I got zero messages despite being subscribed to 195 echoes.

    But are you linked at 3:770/1 ?

    Does that HUB even know your fido node exists? What is your fido number?

    Best, Paul

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to nathanael on Sunday, January 27, 2019 03:37:22
    I've never set up any node lists, so my mutil.ini is just stock:

    [General]
    MergeNodeLists = false

    You can enable that if you want and run mutil to crate a nodelist for Mystic to
    browse or search your nodelists. It gives you information about a node number also when you send netmail.

    Not a must have.. but nice to have.

    If I'm not mistaken fidopoll can also use the nodelist to find hostnames for your links.

    [MergeNodeLists]
    strip_down = true
    strip_private = true
    nodefile=d:\nodelists\nodelist
    nodefile=d:\nodelists\agoranet

    You can add as many nodelists as you like.

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Avon on Sunday, January 27, 2019 22:38:36
    Does that HUB even know your fido node exists? What is your fido number?

    My aren't we the stickler for rules all of a sudden :-)

    I was following your video, which uses 3:770/999. I was assuming that works
    the same as your Mystic videos -- with the /999 being a sort of open address
    to use to get things working before applying for a node number.

    So I need to apply for a number first. Umm, I seem to have misplaced my application somewhere ...

    Got an extra?

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:4/132 to nathanael on Monday, January 28, 2019 09:32:30
    My aren't we the stickler for rules all of a sudden :-)

    FidoNet works very differently than fsxnet. Avon runs fsxnet and can pretty much do what he wants (shut down hub 1 for example). FidoNet is run by committees and has strict rules .. a lot differently than fsxnet. I don't
    think fido runs the same /999 setup that fsxnet does but I could be mistaken.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Michael Borthwick on Sunday, January 27, 2019 15:21:22
    My aren't we the stickler for rules all of a sudden :-)

    FidoNet works very differently than fsxnet. Avon runs fsxnet and can pretty much do what he wants (shut down hub 1 for example). FidoNet is run by committees and has strict rules .. a lot differently than fsxnet. I don't think fido runs the same /999 setup that fsxnet does but I could be mistaken.

    There are /999 or /9999 entries for folks to use to netmail the NC and get themselves nodelistsed. If a /999 node was seen in a fidonet echo you could expect a visit from the fido police.. :)

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Michael Borthwick on Monday, January 28, 2019 07:23:27
    My aren't we the stickler for rules all of a sudden :-)

    FidoNet works very differently than fsxnet. Avon runs fsxnet and can

    Yeah, I realize that, actually. I also realize my comment may have come across too snarky. My apologies to Avon if it did.

    I've put in an application at filegate.net/zone6/. I think that's the right place.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to nathanael on Sunday, January 27, 2019 15:29:20
    I've put in an application at filegate.net/zone6/. I think that's the right place.

    Fido has shrunk a bit. There are only zones 1, 2, 3 and 4 today. I think you will be in zone 3. In any case I'm pretty sure Avon can get things happening for you.

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Al on Monday, January 28, 2019 08:04:12
    Fido has shrunk a bit. There are only zones 1, 2, 3 and 4 today. I think

    Not at all surprised. The page I visited looked hella old -- pretty much everything I turned up in a google search did. Even the Fidonet policy (4.07)
    I was told I was required to read was from 1989.

    And I did enjoy the assertion, "Joining FidoNet is not to be done lightly.
    You must understand your responsibilities as a sysop."

    They take themselves pretty seriously.

    So if someone could point me to someplace a little less ancient, I'd
    appreciate it.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to nathanael on Sunday, January 27, 2019 16:22:24
    Fido has shrunk a bit. There are only zones 1, 2, 3 and 4 today. I think

    Not at all surprised. The page I visited looked hella old -- pretty much everything I turned up in a google search did. Even the Fidonet policy (4.07) I was told I was required to read was from 1989.

    Yep, probably hasn't changed in ?? years.

    If I have my facts straight that was filegate.net? That site is run by Janis Kracht, if you sent your info there she has likely already sent it to the folks
    in Z3.

    And I did enjoy the assertion, "Joining FidoNet is not to be done lightly. You must understand your responsibilities as a sysop."

    They take themselves pretty seriously.

    Yep! Back in the heydays of fidonet there were issues..

    Not so much today but fidonet remains much as always.. :)

    So if someone could point me to someplace a little less ancient, I'd appreciate it.

    This is probably as good a place as you will find upto date info (although not a web page) There is a large pool of fido people here who can give you info about fidonet without any of the fido politics, many of them from Z3.

    Paul Hayton (Avon) is an RC in Z3, so I think your are in a good place.

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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:4/132 to Al on Monday, January 28, 2019 11:43:54
    And I did enjoy the assertion, "Joining FidoNet is not to be done lightl You must understand your responsibilities as a sysop."

    They take themselves pretty seriously.

    Yes, just take a look at some of their sysop echo's and voting on members for some of their standards committees.... it's like watching a kindergarten
    class fight....

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  • From Fireball@21:4/145 to Michael Borthwick on Sunday, January 27, 2019 18:58:10
    On 28 Jan 2019, Michael Borthwick said the following...

    They take themselves pretty seriously.

    Yes, just take a look at some of their sysop echo's and voting on
    members for some of their standards committees.... it's like watching a kindergarten class fight....

    I laughed so hard at that! lmao! It's exactly like that! lol!

    Fireball

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Michael Borthwick on Sunday, January 27, 2019 17:32:02
    Yes, just take a look at some of their sysop echo's and voting on members for some of their standards committees.... it's like watching a kindergarten class fight....

    Yep, that last one was a little scarry to watch but it turned out well in the end.

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Al on Monday, January 28, 2019 10:07:03
    If I have my facts straight that was filegate.net? That site is run by

    Yeah, that was the place. Guess I'll just sit back and wait, then.

    So, when I set up the echoes, I subscribed to everything. If I just want friendly, on-topic discussions minus the forays into fido-politics or other shenanigans, any recommendations on which ones I should avoid?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Al on Monday, January 28, 2019 15:26:04
    On 27 Jan 2019, Al pondered and said...

    I've put in an application at filegate.net/zone6/. I think that's the ri place.

    Fido has shrunk a bit. There are only zones 1, 2, 3 and 4 today. I think you will be in zone 3. In any case I'm pretty sure Avon can get things happening for you.


    Yes I can help with a feed for sure :)

    I have Michael in Singapore that I feed so happy to do the same for you also
    if you wish. Given you have applied via that form I expect they will likely
    aim to assign you a Zone 3 number but probably under Australia's region vs
    New Zealand... not sure. But I have created a node number for Michael and fed him from that without issue.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to nathanael on Sunday, January 27, 2019 18:15:44
    If I have my facts straight that was filegate.net? That site is run by

    Yeah, that was the place. Guess I'll just sit back and wait, then.

    So, when I set up the echoes, I subscribed to everything. If I just want friendly, on-topic discussions minus the forays into fido-politics or other shenanigans, any recommendations on which ones I should avoid?

    FN_SYSOP and FIDO_SYSOP are the main sysop echoes. I wouldn't avoid them though
    but I do avoid having conversations that are not going to do any good in any echo (at least I try to).

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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to nathanael on Monday, January 28, 2019 14:29:37
    everything I turned up in a google search did. Even the Fidonet policy (4.07) I was told I was required to read was from 1989.

    It might be older than the local hills, but it's still the current
    policy, and won't get changed unless god make's an aperance.

    If you want to follow the rules, then you would be classed as a zone Independent, in Zone3.

    But then there is a single lonley node from the Philippines in net633
    (Used to have three), so take your pick.

    You will need a nodelist to start with.






    \/orlon



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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to nathanael on Monday, January 28, 2019 14:32:00

    So, when I set up the echoes, I subscribed to everything. If I just want friendly, on-topic discussions minus the forays into fido-politics or other shenanigans, any recommendations on which ones I should avoid?

    Any of the ones that have SYSOP in the echo tage. #-)

    Us in Z3 though are a different bunch, and the local echo would be lucky
    to get a post every six months....





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  • From Michael Borthwick@21:4/132 to nathanael on Monday, January 28, 2019 14:45:49
    So, when I set up the echoes, I subscribed to everything. If I just want friendly, on-topic discussions minus the forays into fido-politics or other shenanigans, any recommendations on which ones I should avoid?

    Set up everything you can. There are a lot of great echo's there. The sysop echo's are good (just avoid the politics.. pretty easy) and you can talk to sysops all over the world.. well us and europe mostly... If you were on
    dialup back in the day then you might want to narrow your scope but internet
    is free so why not get all you can.

    I personally no longer set up my echo's anymore. I just set up the auto add feature of mutil and when new echo's come in you can just finish the rest of the settings and you're good to go. There are a lot of fido NA files with a
    lot of inactive echo's so the auto add is helpful here.

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  • From deon@21:2/116.1 to nathanael on Monday, January 28, 2019 05:23:42
    On 01/28/19, nathanael said the following...
    So, when I set up the echoes, I subscribed to everything. If I just want friendly, on-topic discussions minus the forays into fido-politics or other shenanigans, any recommendations on which ones I should avoid?

    All of them, and stay here :-P

    ...deon

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to deon on Monday, January 28, 2019 15:26:33
    All of them, and stay here :-P

    LOL! Planning on it. But fsxNet only has two echoes I frequent -- Chat and Mystic support -- and I see a handful of Fidonet echoes I think I'd be interested in, assuming they're not overrun with infighting, off-topic ramblings and floods of spam a la USENET.

    (Which, BTW is what I want to work on after I get Fidonet working when I get back from the States.)

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to vorlon on Monday, January 28, 2019 15:33:50
    Us in Z3 though are a different bunch, and the local echo would be lucky to get a post every six months....

    Hmm, even with my limited time I think I could handle that traffic :-)

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to vorlon on Monday, January 28, 2019 15:35:07
    You will need a nodelist to start with.

    From Zone 3? I see filegate has nodelists for Z1 (and/or Z6?).

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  • From nathanael@21:4/123 to Avon on Monday, January 28, 2019 15:37:37
    Yes I can help with a feed for sure :)

    I've already submitted the application, so should I just wait to see what
    falls out from that? In any case, I won't be able to do anything till I get back in a couple of weeks. I'll bug you then.

    (Or maybe I'm already bugging you :-) My wife says I have that tendency.)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to nathanael on Monday, January 28, 2019 21:21:11
    On 28 Jan 2019, nathanael pondered and said...

    I've already submitted the application, so should I just wait to see what falls out from that? In any case, I won't be able to do anything till I get back in a couple of weeks. I'll bug you then.

    (Or maybe I'm already bugging you :-) My wife says I have that tendency.)

    Nah it's all good :).. and have great trip!

    Best, Paul

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  • From Andrew Leary@21:4/105 to nathanael on Monday, January 28, 2019 04:21:49
    Hello nathanael!

    28 Jan 19 07:04, you wrote to Al:

    Fido has shrunk a bit. There are only zones 1, 2, 3 and 4 today.

    Not at all surprised. The page I visited looked hella old -- pretty
    much everything I turned up in a google search did. Even the Fidonet policy (4.07) I was told I was required to read was from 1989.

    Yes, and that is still the "current" version.

    And I did enjoy the assertion, "Joining FidoNet is not to be done
    lightly. You must understand your responsibilities as a sysop."

    They take themselves pretty seriously.

    FidoNet policy was written back when FidoNet was still growing rapidly, and when simply sending a single netmail message could potentially cost one or more nodes money to deliver it. Virtually all mail was transferred via dialup modem, either directly to the destination or routed through the network. At the time, controls were needed to prevent abuse of the system.

    Andrew

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195 to nathanael on Monday, January 28, 2019 20:29:13

    Hello nathanael!

    28 Jan 19 14:35, you wrote to me:

    You will need a nodelist to start with.

    From Zone 3? I see filegate has nodelists for Z1 (and/or Z6?).

    Yes, as each zone's nodelist is slightly different in that the zone it's for is listed first.

    ie: z3's start with z3 node's, and z2's starts with z2 nodes, etc.



    Vorlon


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to nathanael on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 11:28:53
    There's the culprit. Turns out my neighbor snuck in while I was sleeping last night and changed Session Type to FTP. I'll have words with him later, then next week I'll be moving to a better neighborhood :-)

    Haha good catch. Damn those neighbors!

    I am going to change it to read "No FTP hostname defined" in FidoPoll so if this happens to anyone else it'll be easier to pinpoint the issue.

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