Hello apam!

** On Sunday 24.05.20 - 13:45, apam wrote to Avon:

On 24 May 2020 at 01:32p, apam pondered and said...

I'm thinking about adding another BBS to my collection. I currently
have HappyLand on Magicka and Ghost on Synchronet, but I'd like to
restart A BBS with my Ghost BBS software, I might use the art I did
for exotica and restart that.

It's kind of silly having several BBSes I guess, but fun things are
often silly :)

There is at least another sysop that runs multiple bbses. All of them are represented online. I can't remember who it is at this time, but it was
only a couple of weeks ago when had another look. If I remember
correctly, he has an intance of Magicaka, Synchronet, Mystic.. and two
more. The main www site promotes computer repair.



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are represented online. I can't remember who it is at this time, but it was only a couple of weeks ago when had another look. If I remember correctly, he has an intance of Magicaka, Synchronet, Mystic.. and two more. The main www site promotes computer repair.

Have seen a couple doing this, Mind you i beleive was a Amiga/c64/c128 etc variety & I also run PCBoard & Mystic setup myself, pcb mostly as that was my main system back in the 80-90's
But thats cool so many are offering variety :)

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On |1515 Jun 2020|08, |15Ogg |08said the following...

It's kind of silly having several BBSes I guess, but fun things are often silly :)

There is at least another sysop that runs multiple bbses. All of them
are represented online. I can't remember who it is at this time, but it was only a couple of weeks ago when had another look. If I remember correctly, he has an intance of Magicaka, Synchronet, Mystic.. and two more. The main www site promotes computer repair.

Ruben Figueroa & The Prison BBSs - GREAT GUY!

.\\ichael Batts
a.k.a. stizzed (because, why not?)
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There is at least another sysop that runs multiple bbses. All of them
are represented online. I can't remember who it is at this time, but
it was only a couple of weeks ago when had another look. If I remember correctly, he has an intance of Magicaka, Synchronet, Mystic.. and two more. The main www site promotes computer repair.

I run three... MagickaBBS, Synchronet, and GT Power... but don't have computer repair advertised. :) I think maybe you are thinking of the Prison
Boards. He run several, including at least one PC Board and one Wildcat.



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It's kind of silly having several BBSes I guess, but fun things are often silly :)

There is at least another sysop that runs multiple bbses. All of them are

Might be wrong, but sounds similar to Prison..


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There is at least another sysop that runs multiple bbses. All of them
are represented online. I can't remember who it is at this time, but it was only a couple of weeks ago when had another look. If I remember correctly, he has an intance of Magicaka, Synchronet, Mystic.. and two more. The main www site promotes computer repair.

You might be referring to Blag Flag and their "Fleet" of BBS's. I personally love each he has created (I don't know why, but the SysOps name is slipping
my mind).

Apam,

I think it's totally cool when a SysOp runs multiple BBS's. I want 3 total
for different reasons, and mostly for learining purposes:
1. My Current Mystic BBS which I love so far.
2. A Mystic BBS using a theme that is of more interest to me TODAY compared
to what I created over 20 years ago (1989).
3. A WWIV BBS, as that is the software I had grown to love originally, and would love to code one again when time permits.

I'd love to learn how to allow the user to choose WHICH BBS to login to upon connecting to any of them via telnet also.

Blag Flag has really done some amazing work. Not only multiple BBS's using various software .. but also multiple themes within a few of them. Each
create a reason to keep calling back to experience the variety available.
Just love work he's put into them.

-TG

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Hello The!

** On Wednesday 17.06.20 - 09:51, The Godfather wrote to Ogg:

There is at least another sysop that runs multiple bbses. All of them
are represented online. I can't remember who it is at this time, but it

You might be referring to Blag Flag and their "Fleet" of BBS's. I personallylove each he has created (I don't know why, but the SysOps name is slipping my mind).

THAT is another one I remember seeing a little while ago too! Thanks.

Blag Flag has really done some amazing work. Not only multiple BBS's using various software .. but also multiple themes within a few of them. Each create a reason to keep calling back to experience the variety available. Just love work he's put into them.

Will have to drop by, to all three of them!

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Hello Blue!

** On Tuesday 16.06.20 - 13:02, Blue White wrote to Ogg:

There is at least another sysop that runs multiple bbses. All of them
are represented online. I can't remember who it is at this time, but

I run three... MagickaBBS, Synchronet, and GT Power... but don't have computer repair advertised. :) I think maybe you are thinking of the Prison Boards. He run several, including at least one PC Board and one Wildcat.

Prison is the one I was thinking of. Thanks.

Running 3 different systems sounds like a challenge, especially if you
have to remember 3 different config rules and tools.

Do they all access the same message bases, at least?


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Hello stizzed!

** On Tuesday 16.06.20 - 14:15, stizzed wrote to Ogg:

There is at least another sysop that runs multiple bbses. All of them
are represented online. I can't remember who it is at this time, but it

Ruben Figueroa & The Prison BBSs - GREAT GUY!

That's the one, thanks!


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Will have to drop by, to all three of them!

My Pleasure! Another to add to your list, below. haha!

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Hello The!

** On Wednesday 17.06.20 - 19:53, The Godfather wrote to Ogg:

Will have to drop by, to all three of them!

My Pleasure! Another to add to your list, below. haha!
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Good segue!


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Good segue!

Ha! Thank you very much.

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Quoting The Godfather to Ogg <=-

I think it's totally cool when a SysOp runs multiple BBS's. I want 3 total for different reasons, and mostly for learining purposes:

I run ezycom as my main system and MagickaBBS as my secondary one.
The only one I play with / update is Magicka and expect to move to it
full time one day. I just haven't found a Linux distro I can deal
with to make the move full time. :(

Shawn

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I run ezycom as my main system and MagickaBBS as my secondary one.
The only one I play with / update is Magicka and expect to move to it
full time one day. I just haven't found a Linux distro I can deal
with to make the move full time. :(

Shawn

Now you have me wondering which of your two systems I have called? Guess
I'll have to call again and check both out! What keeps you from making the move full time? After my son and I get through the basics of Rasberry PI, I had been thinking of moving over to Linux of some variety. At the moment,
our CANA kits appear to have come with defective microSD cards as they won't format all the way, they error out. So .. we've been stuck in limbo awaiting them to send us new cards. I really enjoy Mystic but have not used it on LInux, just Windows 10.

-tg

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On 18 Jun 2020, The Godfather said the following...

I run ezycom as my main system and MagickaBBS as my secondary one.
The only one I play with / update is Magicka and expect to move to
full time one day. I just haven't found a Linux distro I can deal
with to make the move full time. :(

Shawn

Now you have me wondering which of your two systems I have called? Guess I'll have to call again and check both out! What keeps you from making the move full time? After my son and I get through the basics of
Rasberry PI, I had been thinking of moving over to Linux of some
variety. At the moment, our CANA kits appear to have come with
defective microSD cards as they won't format all the way, they error
out. So .. we've been stuck in limbo awaiting them to send us new
cards. I really enjoy Mystic but have not used it on LInux, just
Windows 10.

The Godfather. It does sound like the microSD cards have issues if they
don't format to the full size, however try written the image file to the MicroSD cards at the size they format to, then boot one up in the PI, during initial boot it will resize to the full size of the card, however it still sounds like you may have some bad microsd, but it would allow you to play around until your replacement's arrive!

Have fun!

-tg

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defective microSD cards as they won't format all the way, they error cards. I really enjoy Mystic but have not used it on LInux, just
Windows 10.

Doing the same thing here, running two bbs systems. PCBoard & Mystic.
Pcboard was my last active running system back in the 90's & always played
around with mystic & now this year Mystic is my main system focus & PCBoard
more cause its my last active bbs i ran. This pandemic has given me time
to bring both back to life, just notice its more competitive these days for
callers :) So many impressive setups out there & modders too.

MicroSD, have noticed not all are equal & it pays to stick with NAME brands,
those FREE SD cards that come with things i notice tend to suck. Last time I
Used my Pi it was setup to only boot off the SD then run via external hd.
Guess that would ease the ware and tear on the SD card & probably be faster
too.

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Running 3 different systems sounds like a challenge, especially if
you have to remember 3 different config rules and tools.

Do they all access the same message bases, at least?

No they do not. None of the three support message bases that are
compatible with the others. Also, the user databases are not
compatible. It is a challenge, but not too difficult.

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Now you have me wondering which of your two systems I have called? G I'll have to call again and check both out! What keeps you from maki the move full time? After my son and I get through the basics of Rasberry PI, I had been thinking of moving over to Linux of some variety. At the moment, our CANA kits appear to have come with defective microSD cards as they won't format all the way, they error out. So .. we've been stuck in limbo awaiting them to send us new cards. I really enjoy Mystic but have not used it on LInux, just Windows 10.

Thanks! I got one working that way. I had to use a third party partition / format tool, then download the latest version of nubes and add the image to
the card. The second one is toast ... so my kids system is up and he's
trying to learn the mindcraft coding stuff. But mine is dead in the water until a new card shows up; unless I can use my portable hard drives to
perform the initial installation? Or ... ? There aren't alternative options provided much via the way I'm searching online. They all suggest using the
cmd prompt functions to clean, and format. It's late and I've been burried
in HTML / CSS for the last 11 hours, so the name (fixdisk?) is slipping my
mind at the moment. However that, nor the 3rd party software repaired the microsd card.... so I gave up and called them for a replacement :)

-d

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Re: kind of silly having several BBSes
By: Tiny to The Godfather on Thu Jun 18 2020 11:22 am

full time one day. I just haven't found a Linux distro I can deal
with to make the move full time. :(

So this is where I'd promote docker...

As you may recall, I run pretty much anything I need to run in docker (and if a
container doesnt exist, I build one).

I did have magicka in a docker container at one point - but it probably needs to be updated. I can help there is you want to give it a try...

But back to my point - with docker, the engine is pretty much available for any
linux, so if you install a linux, dont like it, you can install a different linux and try it out. All you need is the docker runtime with the docker image (for magicka) and your (persistent) data, and it wont know any different...

(So most of my images are built with buster or stretch slim) - even though I run them on Centos, Debian or even my MAC :)

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Doing the same thing here, running two bbs systems. PCBoard & Mystic.
Pcboard was my last active running system back in the 90's & always played around with mystic & now this year Mystic is my main system focus
& PCBoard more cause its my last active bbs i ran. This pandemic has given me time to bring both back to life, just notice its more
competitive these days for callers :) So many impressive setups out there & modders too.

There are nice systems out there. Takes time for sure, and many have years ahead of me, but I'm proud of my creation so far. To me its about the learning, and making new friends through the networks. If I get calls, awesome! We all like those; however until there is a collective marketing effort to grab target audiences from the web to us ... the users are a bit sparse and spread out. But they do exist! I think I had 8 calls today, not bad :) Not like the 20+ in the 90's, but back then not everyone was a SysOp. If we combine those great modders, back end programmers, front end marking gurus, etc... we'll draw more in. BBS's have definetly changed and have
become a more relevant tool then within the 90's, and have a niche' place within the social media world. I'll have to check out your PCBoard version.
I honestly don't recall many others then Telegard, WWIV, C-Net, and Wildcat. But back then, there was serious loyalty to a paticular BBS package, which I suppose is true today with Mystic and Sync. But there were so many brands
back in the day .... it was hard to keep track of them all :)

MicroSD, have noticed not all are equal & it pays to stick with NAME brands, those FREE SD cards that come with things i notice tend to suck. Last time I Used my Pi it was setup to only boot off the SD then run via external hd. Guess that would ease the ware and tear on the SD card & probably be faster too.

Any particular brand you recommend? It came with It came with a 32gb SanDisc .. which I thought was a pretty good brand .. I'll likely just go out and buy one so I can get the other PI up and running. At the moment, I'm in 12 weeks of web development classes, full time, so I dont have much time to figure out the ins and outs of configuring them. I'll have to learn them organically as time allows for a while. Otherwise, I'd figure out how to set up the HD,
pull the card out of my son's, and load mine the same way.

tG

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Quoting The Godfather to Tiny <=-

Now you have me wondering which of your two systems I have called?

I think you called the Ezycom side.

Guess I'll have to call again and check both out! What keeps you from making the move full time? After my son and I get through the basics

Linux distro's. I'm not happy with Ubuntu, but I'm also not wanting
to learn anything new. LOL

Shawn

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Quoting alterego to Tiny <=-

So this is where I'd promote docker...

Laugh, I knew you would! ;)

I did have magicka in a docker container at one point - but it
probably needs to be updated. I can help there is you want to give it
a try...

Isn't it a pretty steep learning curve for Docker though? I like the
idea as I've been using virtual machines for years anyway. (Linux is
already virtual here). I always thought it would be over kill?

Shawn

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Re: kind of silly having several BBSes
By: Tiny to alterego on Fri Jun 19 2020 07:51 am

Isn't it a pretty steep learning curve for Docker though? I like the
idea as I've been using virtual machines for years anyway. (Linux is
already virtual here). I always thought it would be over kill?

Nah not really....

If you are a docker user, you'll just use "docker run", which is how you "start" an application. Docker takes care of most things already (like fetching
the image, etc).

(Remember, docker containers are "applications" not "VMs", so starting Hub 3, I
use docker run <hub 3 image>, instead of manually starting "binkd". And "docker
run <hub 3 image>" runs an entrypoint script (think "autoexec.bat") that runs binkd :).

So, you just need to know what arguments to use with "docker run" - and the image builder should tell you that in the apps documenation. (Some of it is obvious, etc, web servers normally expect stuff in /var/www/html - so you just make sure that your website is mounted there...)

Installing docker itself is normally pretty easy and can be as simple as

curl -sSL https://get.docker.com | sudo sh

The only thing that is hard to get your head around, is containers are by design ephemeral - so any data they create is lost unless you put it on an external mount (using -v parameter). But once you accept that they are easy ;)



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On 18 Jun 2020, The Godfather said the following...

Thanks! I got one working that way. I had to use a third party
partition / format tool, then download the latest version of nubes and
add the image to the card.

I've used a bunch of different utilities to flash Raspbian. The one I like
the best is Etcher. It doesn't care whats on the card, it'll just wipe it & write the image.

If you haven't tried it yet: https://www.balena.io/etcher

Jay

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had 8 calls today, not bad :) Not like the 20+ in the 90's, but back

Yea i see they do exist by other BBS last callers, still waiting for those
kinda days myself, but I have come back from the dead & only been around a
couple months myself, so makes sense it takes a certain look or feel to get
people calling, or coming back. Dont think i have even seen that many callers
yet myself since going online LOL

I'll have to check out your PCBoard version. I honestly don't recall
many others then Telegard, WWIV, C-Net, and Wildcat. But back then,
there was serious loyalty to a paticular BBS package, which I suppose is true today with Mystic and Sync. But there were so many brands back in

Yea i ran a variety back then, think Darkstar & C*Base where my favorite,
then PCBoard, but also depends on the kinda callers you get too.
Now a days im liking my Mystic more & how much you can customize & just how
much easier some things are too.

Any particular brand you recommend? It came with It came with a 32gb SanDisc .. which I thought was a pretty good brand .. I'll likely just

Yea I thought that was a good brand too, maybe just a fluke you got a bad
one. That does happen.

have to learn them organically as time allows for a while. Otherwise,
I'd figure out how to set up the HD, pull the card out of my son's, and load mine the same way.

I had DietPi running on mine & it has options in it for the BOOT to HD, but
dont think the v4 Pi supports that, or is another work around for it.

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idea as I've been using virtual machines for years anyway. (Linux is
already virtual here). I always thought it would be over kill?

I could be missing something with this DOCKER or its the learning curve part
But agree it seems to have one LOL I thought i would look into it to check
out Enigma bbs etc, but following there HOWTO seemed a pain. Gues all these
GUI's & Windows have killed good ol command line things to much LOL
VM's seem WAY easier,who doesnt know how to install an OS that way :)
Always like the idea of linus & its power, but just use to many GUI/Windows
apps to ever stick things out with it.

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I've used a bunch of different utilities to flash Raspbian. The one I like the best is Etcher. It doesn't care whats on the card, it'll just wipe it & write the image.

If you haven't tried it yet: https://www.balena.io/etcher

Jay

Thanks JAY! I'll try it now. I would like an easier solution then a trip to the UPS office, then awaiting a return. Appreciate the hook-up.

-Doug

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Yea i see they do exist by other BBS last callers, still waiting for those kinda days myself, but I have come back from the dead & only been around a couple months myself, so makes sense it takes a certain look or feel to get people calling, or coming back. Dont think i have even seen that many callers yet myself since going online LOL

Well .. in all fairness, I can't tell if they are visiting sysops or users
half the time. I call a lot of BBS's as I like to get ideas and also some BBS's I frequenty to participate or .. well .. leech. I know that used to be
a bad term but with 1gig fiber, I can't help it. I also call for the message networks I don't have that I've tried to apply to, with no reply after
repeated attempts ... so I just read them on other boards. So Im an Op/User
if you will...

Yea i ran a variety back then, think Darkstar & C*Base where my
favorite, then PCBoard, but also depends on the kinda callers you get
too. Now a days im liking my Mystic more & how much you can customize & just how much easier some things are too.

Telegard was a more complicated version of Mystic with a similar concept:
no need for a source code as it was so configurable. I find Mystic to be a good blend of WWIV and Telegard, in that I can customize the heck out of .INI and .CFG files, prompts, and menus; while also install scripts. I really
like the built in features that don't need installed on other systems: front doors, among other functions I've read others dealing with. I like focusing ont the front end of the BBS and to have the back end just work. If I
recall, PCboard and or RBBS was a rather expensive package at Software Etc.. back in the day. I could be wrong, i just remember seeing a few packages
back in the day at the missed mall store.

I had DietPi running on mine & it has options in it for the BOOT to HD, but dont think the v4 Pi supports that, or is another work around for it.

Thats a bummer. I'll do some research. I have a 5TB WD drive, and a 1TB toshiba. I was thinking of giving the 1TB to the kids, but the 5TB is compatible with xbox, so they need it for gaming. But if neither work, I
guess the WD was a purchase for the kids (well, birthday gift to me, regifted to them....)

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On 19 Jun 2020, The Godfather said the following...

I had DietPi running on mine & it has options in it for the BOOT to but dont think the v4 Pi supports that, or is another work around for

Thats a bummer. I'll do some research. I have a 5TB WD drive, and a 1TB toshiba.

You can't directly boot to a HD on the Pi4 (yet), but you can boot to a
microSD & then hand it off to a hard drive or USB stick. That's what I've
done w/ my Pi4. I was kind of amazed as how much faster everything was
running off of a spinning 200GB 5400rpm HD (PiDrive) vs the microSD.

This is the video I used:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM9wuFLufyA

Jay

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This is the video I used:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM9wuFLufyA

Jay

Probably a silly question your message already answered, but for clarity ...

So I have to boot with the microSD every time I power off/on? Or only for
the initial setup, then hand it off? That would be the ultimate solution. Also, do you have the on/off adapter for your pi, or just unplug the power
when you need to? Curious to know if it's worth the purchase. I thought
mine came with it, but it did not.

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On 19 Jun 2020, The Godfather said the following...

So I have to boot with the microSD every time I power off/on? Or only
for the initial setup, then hand it off? That would be the ultimate solution. Also, do you have the on/off adapter for your pi, or just
unplug the power when you need to? Curious to know if it's worth the purchase. I thought mine came with it, but it did not.

You still need to keep the SD card in, the /boot directory would still be on the SD card. The rest of the OS would be on the HD. Once they update the Pi you would then be able to omit the SD card all together. I believe I read somewhere that they're working on network boot first & then they'll work on
USB boot.

For my Pi 3's I have the power adapters with the built-in switch on the cord, however for the Pi 4 I have the official adapter which means I need to plug & unplug each time.

Jay

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On 19 Jun 2020, The Godfather said the following...

This is the video I used:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM9wuFLufyA

Jay

Probably a silly question your message already answered, but for clarity ...

So I have to boot with the microSD every time I power off/on? Or only
for the initial setup, then hand it off? That would be the ultimate solution. Also, do you have the on/off adapter for your pi, or just
unplug the power when you need to? Curious to know if it's worth the purchase. I thought mine came with it, but it did not.

You have to boot off the microSD card every time you power the pi up. I've personally not been able to boot directly off the USB, however as I believe
it was Warpslide that mentioned, that capability is right around the corner.

As for the on/off microUSB adpater I would say it's your preference, for me I bought a couple of them due to the placement of where I have some of mine velcro'ed to the back of wall mounted TV's and I can't physically reach the spot where it's plugged in and used it for an extension to power on/off. Another reason is the microUSB ports tend to wear out after extensive
plugging in and unplugging, so I think it's a great way to save from wearing out the connector.

Otherwise you could just unplug it from the wall.

-Dejavu

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You still need to keep the SD card in, the /boot directory would still
be on the SD card. The rest of the OS would be on the HD. Once they update the Pi you would then be able to omit the SD card all together.
I believe I read somewhere that they're working on network boot first & then they'll work on USB boot.

Thats what I assumed, thanks for confirming. I'll anxiously await the
hard drive or USB option for sure. In the mean time, i'll watch my 12 year
old learn how to use the minecraft tools.

For my Pi 3's I have the power adapters with the built-in switch on the cord, however for the Pi 4 I have the official adapter which means I
need to plug & unplug each time.

Ah, that explains why I didn't get the cord. Cool, thanks for the info! I think my wife bought me the SLR camera kit and lenses for Fathers Day, so looking forward to playing around with these PI's! They're so cheap, and
from what I've seen so far, the PI4 runs just fine for a full desktop unit
for the kids. They do boot slowly, but sounds like that'll change. I'm also interested in the AM/FM / Internet radio project. I hear it's pretty cool,
and with as many rural areas we have here, with poor cell reception, it would be a cool feature to have when I visit my dad.

tG

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wear out after extensive plugging in and unplugging, so I think it's a great way to save from wearing out the connector.

Otherwise you could just unplug it from the wall.

Thats why I was kinda hoping they were included within the kit, but I'll need one for mine; the kids will just be doing homework and playing games,
learning linux and python, and the kids coding software installed. I don't
see having to reboot theirs nearly as often.

Thanks for the input!

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On 06-19-20 07:49, Tiny wrote to The Godfather <=-

Linux distro's. I'm not happy with Ubuntu, but I'm also not wanting
to learn anything new. LOL

Well, anything Debian based should be familiar, if you already knew Ubuntu.


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Quoting Grim Reaper to Tiny <=-

how to install an OS that way :) Always like the idea of linus & its power, but just use to many GUI/Windows apps to ever stick things out
with it.

I have used it as my main OS before... I choose windows now because
I'm lazy and don't care enough anymore. I mean I use dosbox for
offline mail and a web browser. LOL

Shawn

... My IQ test came back negative.

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On 19 Jun 2020, Tiny said the following...

Linux distro's. I'm not happy with Ubuntu, but I'm also not wanting
to learn anything new. LOL

If you have learned more of the inner working of Linux with Ubuntu, and know aptitude quite well, but don't like Ubuntu itself. Just go with Debian and build your own desktop environment on top of it.

Otherwise, what _don't_ you like about Ubuntu? There are a bunch of other flavors of Ubuntu with different window managers.

I use Arch, so there's not going to be any bias or defensive posts about
Ubuntu whatsoever.. since frankly, I don't care. Just trying to get your perspective on it and possibly steer you in a similar (yet different) direction. ;)

Accession

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Quoting Accession to Tiny <=-

Otherwise, what _don't_ you like about Ubuntu? There are a bunch of
other flavors of Ubuntu with different window managers.

I don't use GUI as it's just for a server. But the things I don't
like are the forced upgrades.

I use Arch, so there's not going to be any bias or defensive posts
about Ubuntu whatsoever.. since frankly, I don't care. Just trying to
get your perspective on it and possibly steer you in a similar (yet different) direction. ;)

Arch is on my list of things to try for sure.

Shawn

... Bend the facts to fit the conclusion. It's easier that way.

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I don't use GUI as it's just for a server. But the things I don't
like are the forced upgrades.

Forced upgrades? Just turn them off... :)

Spec


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Linux distro's. I'm not happy with Ubuntu, but I'm also not wanting
to learn anything new. LOL

What are you not enjoying with buntu?

Spec


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I wish Win10 stuck with how Win7 handled updates etc, one could CHOOSE what they wanted, not this who knows what is being updated, or some driver gets updated & causes system issues after it.

Other OS's i imagine dont force that stuff, just a windows thing im guessing.

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