• Today is a somber and thoughtful day

    From Argos@21:1/203 to All on Thursday, April 02, 2020 13:32:35
    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised me
    that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored to be
    made aware of this. I was aware he was no feeling so sweet, however in just a week, he was gone.... a sobering time ....

    Right from the heart. And a plead to basic humanity......

    I read many social media posts every day , many right in this group. I read
    an abundance of covid-19 personal and other type posts. Some of the is just trash. But, the ones posted by individual people all have a common
    denominator. This common underline tone or the proverbial read in between is this.....

    Unknown, concern, fear, the physiological fight or flight mode and of course opinions.

    It is right and must heed the common sense of what the CDC has
    communicated. The draconian sledgehammer assault to combat a war of the
    unseen is both real and psychologically daunting. People are fighting for
    items in a store we take for granted as always there.

    We must challenge ourselves daily to be smart, pay simple attention to basic common sense, and most of all be kind to each other. There is no need to raise tensions with others. If something is out of your personal comfort zone.... stay away. Some call this a tactical retreat.

    One of my favorite verses from a really cool book.... Joshua 1:9

    Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not
    be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.

    He, never said not to have good common sense. He never said to be horrible.

    It is understandable everyone has the unsettling nerves over all this
    stuff. Daily things we would do, either are closed or cannot do it. It is socially taboo to even shake a persons hand.

    Please be kind.... we all live in a community that is simply "our community"

    Everyone processes issues differently. Respect with kindness and
    understanding even our chosen leadership has burdens to deal with.

    Get creative. Music on the porch of a church, that is love.... going for a swim, that is enjoying and relax stress. Bike ride, walk the Dog.... Social distance is a new term no one ever hear of before this stuff.

    This not (hopefully) a new norm. It will pass and God is Good... no matter
    what you believe or lack there of. Believe in this, never under estimate the human spirit. Do not let this stress cloud the spirit of community and being kind to each other.

    With a total heavy heart .....

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  • From Lupine Furmen@21:4/102 to Argos on Thursday, April 02, 2020 14:12:40
    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised me that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored to
    be made aware of this. I was aware he was no feeling so sweet, however
    in just a week, he was gone.... a sobering time ....

    OMG, Condolences to you and your family and especially to your son on the
    loss of his husband.
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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Argos on Thursday, April 02, 2020 14:06:13
    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised me that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored to
    be made aware of this. I was aware he was no feeling so sweet, however
    in just a week, he was gone.... a sobering time ....

    Wow, I can't imagime what that's like. I'm sorry for you and your Son and the family of his husband.

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  • From HSM@21:2/162 to Argos on Thursday, April 02, 2020 17:26:00
    On 02 Apr 2020, Argos said the following...

    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised me that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored to

    Deepest empathy for you, your son and all the friends and family impacted.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Argos on Friday, April 03, 2020 13:59:00
    On 04-02-20 13:32, Argos wrote to All <=-

    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised
    me that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored
    to be made aware of this. I was aware he was no feeling so sweet,
    however in just a week, he was gone.... a sobering time ....

    My condolences to you, Josh and your whole family on both sides. That's awdful. COVID-19 seems to ahve a horrible random element to it. :( I've been through it myself, long before same sex marriage was all legal, back in 2005 - cancer, rather than COVID-19.

    It is right and must heed the common sense of what the CDC has communicated. The draconian sledgehammer assault to combat a war of the unseen is both real and psychologically daunting. People are fighting
    for items in a store we take for granted as always there.

    We need to heed the advice of the health authorities, who are guiding government policy (or at least should be), and in the absence of a vaccine, keeping our distance and good hygiene are the only ways to stop the spread of this virus.

    It is understandable everyone has the unsettling nerves over all this stuff. Daily things we would do, either are closed or cannot do it. It
    is socially taboo to even shake a persons hand.

    This is a massive change for many of us, and we need to do our best to manage it, and more importantly, help each other through it.

    Please be kind.... we all live in a community that is simply "our community"

    Indeed. <3

    Get creative. Music on the porch of a church, that is love.... going
    for a swim, that is enjoying and relax stress. Bike ride, walk the
    Dog.... Social distance is a new term no one ever hear of before this stuff.

    Creativity is good, and is some problem solving. My situation is probably a good example. Prior to COVID-19, I had sporting events every weekend, and I was building up to my state and national Masters track meets, as well as fire brigade state championships. To support this, I was training double sessions twice a week. I also volunteered at Parkrun and had multiple social engagements, coffee catchups and the like.

    Well, much of that is now gone, but I'm still going ahead. Let's see: Competition is out, swimming is no go, gym is no go, and the cafes are either closed or only serving take away now, and besides, we can't gather in crowds larger than 2, unless all in the group live in the same household (i.e. under the same roof). But even with those restrictions, things are fairly good.

    Socially, I've gone back to my past and become active in ham radio again, taking part in a couple of on air nets per day, and in the intervening times, I am catching up with people on social media, including BBSing. :) These changes have had a side effect of either continuing projects or adding more projects to the list! :D That means more things to fill my time. Now to find a way of piping low latency audio from a Linux server to Windows and back. ;)

    Training has to go on. Fortunately, the sudden truncation of my season has put me into "post season rest", where I do generally lighter and slightly longer work, which is easier to do informally. Without the gym, I have to find other solutions for strength training, but I m hiring an online coach to help with that, just waiting on some money, and being in post season rest, there's no super hurry yet. As for competition, the lack of a winter cross country season (which for me was a glorified form of training and potentially a slight distraction) offers the opportunity to build myself up for an all out effort for next summer and take an even more professional approach. I'm just waiting on some money to get the coaching started, but that should be here soon.

    And the COVID-19 isplation measures are opening other opportunities to help - from writing an article about my strategies to supporting community organisations in the online world.

    We will get through this, but we need to be resourceful, creative and especially supportive of each other.

    While I don't share your religious beliefs, I certainly share the intent and sentiment. We will get through this and emerge on the other side stronger for it. :)

    With a total heavy heart .....

    If you need to chat, feel free, my netmail inbox is always open too.


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  • From echicken@21:1/164 to Argos on Thursday, April 02, 2020 23:36:59
    Re: Today is a somber and thoughtful day
    By: Argos to All on Thu Apr 02 2020 13:32:35

    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised me that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored to be made aware of this. I was aware he was no feeling so sweet, however in
    just a
    week, he was gone.... a sobering time ....

    Condolences to you and your son. That's truly horrible.

    We must challenge ourselves daily to be smart, pay simple attention to
    basic
    common sense, and most of all be kind to each other. There is no need to
    raise
    tensions with others. If something is out of your personal comfort
    zone....
    stay away. Some call this a tactical retreat.

    That's fair, but I think we should all feel free to gently remind others of the
    new rules. I've witnessed several instances lately of people failing to keep their distance, etc., and I think in many cases it's because they've simply forgotten. We do so ma
    One of my favorite verses from a really cool book.... Joshua 1:9

    Please be kind.... we all live in a community that is simply "our
    community"

    Lean on your faith if it gets you through this. I think we should lean on each other, if from a distance. I'm glad to see so many people active on this and other networks, keeping each other entertained, keeping company.

    Sorry that your family has a such rough time ahead, and that there are no shortcuts through it. Best wishes.

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  • From Greg Zoll@21:4/169 to Argos on Friday, April 03, 2020 00:01:36

    Sorry to hear that. Hang in there brother.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Argos on Friday, April 03, 2020 17:18:41
    Argos wrote to All <=-

    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised
    me that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored
    to be made aware of this. I was aware he was no feeling so sweet,
    however in just a week, he was gone.... a sobering time ....

    So sorry for your loss.

    Everyone processes issues differently. Respect with kindness and understanding even our chosen leadership has burdens to deal with.

    Agreed.

    Dog.... Social distance is a new term no one ever hear of before this stuff.

    This not (hopefully) a new norm. It will pass and God is Good... no
    matter what you believe or lack there of. Believe in this, never under estimate the human spirit. Do not let this stress cloud the spirit of community and being kind to each other.

    While I hope that a lot of it is not a new norm, I do at least hope that
    some aspects of social distancing do not go by the wayside as soon as this
    is over. I am enjoying now that most people are starting to learn to
    respect personal space. Plus, if we just go right back, I am afraid it
    will happen again sooner than later.



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Argos on Saturday, April 04, 2020 14:04:21
    On 02 Apr 2020 at 01:32p, Argos pondered and said...

    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised me that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored to
    be made aware of this. I was aware he was no feeling so sweet, however
    in just a week, he was gone.... a sobering time ....

    I'm really really sorry for your families loss at this totally bonkers time we're all passing through. Thoughts and prayers to you and yours.

    We must challenge ourselves daily to be smart, pay simple attention to basic common sense, and most of all be kind to each other. There is no need to raise tensions with others. If something is out of your personal

    I totally agree with you.

    Please be kind.... we all live in a community that is simply "our community"

    Everyone processes issues differently. Respect with kindness and understanding even our chosen leadership has burdens to deal with.

    Get creative. Music on the porch of a church, that is love.... going for
    a swim, that is enjoying and relax stress. Bike ride, walk the Dog.... Social distance is a new term no one ever hear of before this stuff.

    I don't like social distance as a term it's really physical distance I think, but I also think now more than ever community be in online or in other forms
    is key to keeping mentally healthy and building resilience at a stressful dramatic and tragic time such as we're living through together right now.

    I'm glad you're active here and a member of the fsxNet and wider BBS
    community.

    Go gently good sir.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Saturday, April 04, 2020 21:34:19
    While I hope that a lot of it is not a new norm, I do at least hope that some aspects of social distancing do not go by the wayside as soon as
    this is over. I am enjoying now that most people are starting to learn
    to respect personal space. Plus, if we just go right back, I am afraid

    Was at work today in retail & saw where some people just don't get it about
    the distancing. I started working from behind a piece of plexiglass the
    company put up. Most of the folks would walk up to the glass...as I would
    start backing up. Another one is going to the side to get closer to me. Asked them to either back up or I did. The look on their faces was like "how dare you". Another guy tried to hand his phone to me to get an image of what he wanted...used sanitizer on my hands before/after this. Will be telling them
    to write down the information for me or I can't help them.

    Before this...was in the break room talking to the ladies at the front
    counter. They were getting complaints from customers that the aisles don't allow 6 ft of distancing...that they are getting pissed off things don't work like they expect when they can't get in your face.

    I do hope you're right...but from what I saw today & recently...don't think
    you are. Hope with these folks...their herd is culled & what's left practices social distancing.

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  • From djatropine@21:1/157 to Phoobar on Sunday, April 05, 2020 07:53:30
    Was at work today in retail & saw where some people just don't get it about the distancing. I started working from behind a piece of
    plexiglass the company put up. Most of the folks would walk up to the glass...as I would start backing up. Another one is going to the side to get closer to me. Asked them to either back up or I did. The look on
    their faces was like "how dare you". Another guy tried to hand his phone to me to get an image of what he wanted...used sanitizer on my hands before/after this. Will be telling them to write down the information
    for me or I can't help them.


    Oh no. That kind. The kind of folks who can NOT live without a phone/brick in their hand regardless of age would probably be the first ones to get this
    (I'm only *speculating*) . I run around with a circle of peers who basicly despise any technology except for skatebaording/biking

    The "social distancing" IMO with some people is overkill yet nowhere have
    I read in my state's Executive Order of Shelter In P)lace that helping a relative/loved one/ close one is a crime.

    Things get even stranger when you are the minority in the family who does not go on any of the video-chat sites like zoom/skype/etc. (Find me something which will work textmode ascii in ALL OS's and i will look into it)

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to djatropine on Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:05:00
    Hello djatropine!

    ** 05.04.20 - 07:53, djatropine wrote to Phoobar:

    Things get even stranger when you are the minority in the family who does
    not go on any of the video-chat sites like zoom/skype/etc. (Find me
    something which will work textmode ascii in ALL OS's and i will look into
    it)

    Isn't that one called IRC? ;)



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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Phoobar on Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:25:00
    Hello Phoobar!

    ** 04.04.20 - 21:34, Phoobar wrote to Blue White:

    Was at work today in retail & saw where some people just don't get it about
    the distancing. I started working from behind a piece of plexiglass the
    company put up. Most of the folks would walk up to the glass...as I would
    start backing up. Another one is going to the side to get closer to me.
    Asked them to either back up or I did. The look on their faces was like
    "how dare you".

    Some of these plexiglass installations are poorly implemented. For
    example, the one's at my local NoFrills don't have any extra opening for exchanging cash or a receipt. You *have* to reach around the edge - and
    the handoff is well within the 6 feet distance as my hand and their hand
    is holding on to the same coins/bills/receipt.


    Another guy tried to hand his phone to me to get an image
    of what he wanted...used sanitizer on my hands before/after this. Will be
    telling themto write down the information for me or I can't help them.

    Couldn't he just hold up the phone and show it to you against the
    plexiglass?


    ..Hope with these folks...their herd is culled & what's left
    practices social distancing.

    The problem with this virus is that it does not necessarily select just
    "the herd" that you refer to. It can infect a family member or a friend
    you are fond of.


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:15:00
    Phoobar wrote to Blue White <=-

    Was at work today in retail & saw where some people just don't get it about the distancing. I started working from behind a piece of
    plexiglass the company put up. Most of the folks would walk up to the glass...as I would start backing up. Another one is going to the side
    to get closer to me. Asked them to either back up or I did. The look on their faces was like "how dare you". Another guy tried to hand his
    phone to me to get an image of what he wanted...used sanitizer on my
    hands before/after this. Will be telling them to write down the information for me or I can't help them.

    Yeah some folks take personal offense if you don't want them in your space, even during these times. I don't get it. :(

    Before this...was in the break room talking to the ladies at the front counter. They were getting complaints from customers that the aisles
    don't allow 6 ft of distancing...that they are getting pissed off
    things don't work like they expect when they can't get in your face.

    I think that is a legit complaint at some stores. The largest grocery
    retailer in our area... well, you've probably seen me complain about them before... they enlarged their floorspace and yet somehow found a way to
    make some of the more popular aisles, like the one with breakfast cereal
    and coffee, so narrow you can barely get two shoping carts through. The shelves are not 6 feet apart, let alone anyone trying to shop between them.

    The tater chip aisle and the dog/cat food aisle are well spaced, as are the frozen section (when there is not someone in there stocking, which is what
    they supposedly went to < 24 hours to allow for, NOT!). The rest of the
    store is a social distancing nightmare.

    I do hope you're right...but from what I saw today & recently...don't think you are. Hope with these folks...their herd is culled & what's
    left practices social distancing.

    I doubt that I am right. I suspect that the folks who are offended when
    you don't want them in your face are mostly not changing their ways now and certainly won't in the future.



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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to djatropine on Sunday, April 05, 2020 16:30:32
    djatropine wrote (2020-04-05):

    Things get even stranger when you are the minority in the family who does not go on any of the video-chat sites like zoom/skype/etc. (Find me something which will work textmode ascii in ALL OS's and i will look into it)

    you use ALL OSes?

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  • From Captain Obvious@21:1/157 to Argos on Sunday, April 05, 2020 19:50:51
    On 02 Apr 2020, Argos said the following...

    Today, I received a call from my son in Seattle, WA ..... Josh advised me that his husband and partner passed away this morning. I was floored to
    be made aware of this. I was aware he was no feeling so sweet, however
    in just a week, he was gone.... a sobering time ....

    Man, that sucks. My condolences to you and your son.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to djatropine on Sunday, April 05, 2020 19:05:30
    Oh no. That kind. The kind of folks who can NOT live without a
    phone/brick in their hand regardless of age would probably be the first ones to get this (I'm only *speculating*) . I run around with a circle

    Oh yeah! The worst part if when they refuse to put up their external
    genitalia when being served. The best part is when they have others behind
    them that I start serving while they are doing their BJ. Their looks are when I've already gone onto the other customers & make them wait are priceless.

    The "social distancing" IMO with some people is overkill yet nowhere have I read in my state's Executive Order of Shelter In P)lace that helping a relative/loved one/ close one is a crime.

    This is not what I'm talking about. The folks I'm talking about are the ones who believe they are not the ones the barriers are for...but they are for the other ones...not them.

    Things get even stranger when you are the minority in the family who
    does not go on any of the video-chat sites like zoom/skype/etc. (Find
    me something which will work textmode ascii in ALL OS's and i will look into it)

    MMMMMMMM...could it be that there are no BBS's any longer which use text
    modes? ;D

    Only have 1 friend who I use Skype with I am worried about since he lives
    alone in an RV. Everyone else can learn to be able to pull their heads out of their backsides.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Ogg on Sunday, April 05, 2020 19:10:22
    the distancing. I started working from behind a piece of plexiglass the
    company put up. Most of the folks would walk up to the glass...as I wou Some of these plexiglass installations are poorly implemented. For example, the one's at my local NoFrills don't have any extra opening for exchanging cash or a receipt. You *have* to reach around the edge - and

    Not these. There's about 1-2 feet under the plexiglass where the space is to p/u whatever is on the counter. Even with this space...some think it's for others...not them.

    Couldn't he just hold up the phone and show it to you against the plexiglass?

    He didn't want to write it down.

    The problem with this virus is that it does not necessarily select just "the herd" that you refer to. It can infect a family member or a friend you are fond of.

    Very true. Having no family (cat died 4 years ago)...no problem. Do keep
    track of a friend in Idaho to make sure he's doing okay.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Sunday, April 05, 2020 19:23:54
    hands before/after this. Will be telling them to write down the information for me or I can't help them.
    Yeah some folks take personal offense if you don't want them in your space, even during these times. I don't get it. :(

    Believe it may go back to being a master/servant "relationship". They have always had it where they bark an order...you jump. Now...they can't do that without consequences not there during "normal" times.

    don't allow 6 ft of distancing...that they are getting pissed off things don't work like they expect when they can't get in your face.
    I think that is a legit complaint at some stores. The largest grocery retailer in our area... well, you've probably seen me complain about them before... they enlarged their floorspace and yet somehow found a way to make some of the more popular aisles, like the one with breakfast cereal and coffee, so narrow you can barely get two shoping carts through. The

    The biggest issue is with forgetting how this country (others as well...but
    not going to comment about them) has had numerous disasters like this. Think
    I was reading an NPR article which mentioned the story of Balto & of TB which did change how thing may have been done. You have spaces designed with an
    idea that COVID-19 & other disasters don't happen. Companies want to have as much space as possible without increasing the building size. These folks want to complain...start with the businesses for making this the standard.

    The tater chip aisle and the dog/cat food aisle are well spaced, as are the frozen section (when there is not someone in there stocking, which
    is what they supposedly went to < 24 hours to allow for, NOT!). The
    rest of the store is a social distancing nightmare.

    True. On the other hand...with the lack of people in the stores now...there maybe open aisles they can walk down with having others letting them pass. Heaven forbid they think about anyone else & make them spend a couple of more minutes thinking about someone else...unless it's for someone they care about.

    I doubt that I am right. I suspect that the folks who are offended when you don't want them in your face are mostly not changing their ways now and certainly won't in the future.

    We can always hope they don't get the message & can nag/moan in the afterlife how they didn't get their way. I don't listen to them now...sure as hell
    won't in whatever afterlife there is.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Blue White on Monday, April 06, 2020 08:12:00
    Blue White wrote to Phoobar <=-

    The tater chip aisle and the dog/cat food aisle are well spaced, as are the frozen section (when there is not someone in there stocking, which
    is what they supposedly went to < 24 hours to allow for, NOT!). The
    rest of the store is a social distancing nightmare.

    My local chain has started limiting the number of people in the store, and issuing disinfected carts to the people waiting in line. It helps stop the spread of viruses through dirty carts and helps enforce social distancing. Once you get in the store, with the limit on people in the store it's easier to keep your distance.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, April 06, 2020 20:12:20
    My local chain has started limiting the number of people in the store,
    and issuing disinfected carts to the people waiting in line. It helps
    stop the spread of viruses through dirty carts and helps enforce social distancing. Once you get in the store, with the limit on people in the store it's easier to keep your distance.

    They haven't done it yet where I work...but the way they were talking today
    at the pow wow session...it's not too far off.

    Today...had to "remind" several people to keep their distance or I couldn't help them. Still getting looks from older folks who seem to have never heard
    of social distancing or that someone would want to use it on them.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Monday, April 06, 2020 19:11:19
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    Yeah some folks take personal offense if you don't want them in your space, even during these times. I don't get it. :(

    Believe it may go back to being a master/servant "relationship". They
    have always had it where they bark an order...you jump. Now...they
    can't do that without consequences not there during "normal" times.

    Maybe that is how some of your customers are, but I don't think most of the people I know who are like that are so because of that. I think it is more along the lines of they feel it is offensive to be thought of as
    potentially ill (or unclean).

    The biggest issue is with forgetting how this country (others as well...but not going to comment about them) has had numerous disasters like this. Think I was reading an NPR article which mentioned the story
    of Balto & of TB which did change how thing may have been done. You
    have spaces designed with an idea that COVID-19 & other disasters don't happen. Companies want to have as much space as possible without increasing the building size. These folks want to complain...start with the businesses for making this the standard.

    In the case of the store I am thinking of, they did increase the building
    size without really increasing the usable space. But I get your point,
    that is certainly how it usually goes. They normally like cramming as many people in as they can get away with... causes more impulse buying, I guess!

    True. On the other hand...with the lack of people in the stores now...there maybe open aisles they can walk down with having others letting them pass. Heaven forbid they think about anyone else & make
    them spend a couple of more minutes thinking about someone
    else...unless it's for someone they care about.

    I know I tried to stay out of the way the last few times I was in a store,
    and noticed that some others did the same.

    We can always hope they don't get the message & can nag/moan in the afterlife how they didn't get their way. I don't listen to them
    now...sure as hell won't in whatever afterlife there is.

    I have a feeling my afterlife will be too full of moaning, screaming, and
    the smell of burning sulphur for me to har much of what they are nagging
    about. :O :D


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Tuesday, April 07, 2020 06:30:02
    Maybe that is how some of your customers are, but I don't think most of the people I know who are like that are so because of that. I think it
    is more along the lines of they feel it is offensive to be thought of as potentially ill (or unclean).

    I agree with you...but they are (I am as well) potentially ill/unclean.

    In the case of the store I am thinking of, they did increase the building size without really increasing the usable space. But I get your point, that is certainly how it usually goes. They normally like cramming as many people in as they can get away with... causes more impulse buying,
    I guess!

    That's some of it...but much of it is to keep them from going to other stores/online.

    I know I tried to stay out of the way the last few times I was in a
    store, and noticed that some others did the same.

    Personally...crowds sometimes bother me that I do everything I can do to stay away from them...no matter what may be going on. The anxiety hits...I get out as quickly as possible.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, April 07, 2020 16:52:26
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Blue White <=-

    The tater chip aisle and the dog/cat food aisle are well spaced, as are the frozen section (when there is not someone in there stocking, which
    is what they supposedly went to < 24 hours to allow for, NOT!). The
    rest of the store is a social distancing nightmare.

    My local chain has started limiting the number of people in the store,
    and issuing disinfected carts to the people waiting in line. It helps
    stop the spread of viruses through dirty carts and helps enforce social distancing. Once you get in the store, with the limit on people in the store it's easier to keep your distance.

    A day or two ago, our county put a ban on "family outings" to the store.
    You have to come alone unless you are unable to shop for yourself. Today,
    they announced that Kroger, the store I was complaining about, has
    instituted policies in Kentucky similar to what you are describing... only
    half of the store's posted capacity is allowed in at any one time.

    That family outings tings may sound funny but here that is actually a
    thing. I never go shopping on Friday or Saturday evenings here because
    whole families meet up in the aisles at the stores.



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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Tuesday, April 07, 2020 16:54:47
    Phoobar wrote to Blue White <=-

    Personally...crowds sometimes bother me that I do everything I can do
    to stay away from them...no matter what may be going on. The anxiety hits...I get out as quickly as possible.

    Me, too. I used to go to college basketball games with a friend. I had to quit going several years ago. They were not having a good season but were still filling the arena to capacity with angry fans. Between that and the
    heat (they kept it cranked... can't figure why since the place was full of bodies), I had to leave two games before halftime. I have never tried
    going back since.



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Tuesday, April 07, 2020 19:08:20
    Personally...crowds sometimes bother me that I do everything I can do to stay away from them...no matter what may be going on. The anxiety hits...I get out as quickly as possible.
    Me, too. I used to go to college basketball games with a friend. I had to quit going several years ago. They were not having a good season but were still filling the arena to capacity with angry fans. Between that and the heat (they kept it cranked... can't figure why since the place

    Talking about the heat...they keep it stoked at work. Sets me off that
    between dealing with the heat & some customers...not a good combo for me. As for the crowds...hard to say what does it for me...but it's like at the
    grocery store...malls or any place where you shop.

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  • From djatropine@21:1/157 to Ogg on Monday, April 06, 2020 16:28:45

    Things get even stranger when you are the minority in the family who do
    not go on any of the video-chat sites like zoom/skype/etc. (Find me
    something which will work textmode ascii in ALL OS's and i will look in
    it)

    Isn't that one called IRC? ;)



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