• NZ Update

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 16:17:27
    In a few hours my country goes into what they call a Level 4 lock down. It's
    a total shutdown / stay at home status that will run for four weeks to start with. Supermarkets, Pharmacies will remain open but all schools and business are shut and just a few essential services will remain open. The message is
    'be kind, stay home, save lives"

    To be honest BBSing has not taken much of my time in the last week, after the cutting ties thing with g00r00 and then trying to help panicked family with what's happening here etc, plus my job is very full on right now with public messaging work to the city I live in (all virus related urgent stuff I and my team do) so I have not focused too much on things here.

    Anywhoo all of which is to say I will try not to be a stranger and as things settle into a new normal over the coming days as I start to work from home
    etc. I'm hoping as near normal service and bad Dad jokes can resume :)

    Take care.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Avon on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 23:40:00
    Hello Avon!

    ** 25.03.20 - 16:17, Avon wrote to All:

    In a few hours my country goes into what they call a Level 4 lock down.
    It's a total shutdown / stay at home status that will run for four weeks to
    start with. Supermarkets, Pharmacies will remain open but all schools and
    business are shut and just a few essential services will remain open. The
    message is 'be kind, stay home, save lives"

    There is a similar lockdown in my province of Ontario, in Canada, for the next 14 days.

    BUT.. the list of essential services that CAN stay open is quite
    extensive:

    https://www.ontario.ca/page/list-essential-workplaces

    Are any of those types of businesses included in your Level 4 lockdown?

    In my town, according to that list, only a handful of businesses are
    affected with a forced closure:

    - jewellery store
    - novelty store
    - gem/mineral store

    Sit-down resaurants can operate as take-out, pickup or delivery, but they can't allow seated customer service.



    with what's happening here etc, plus my job is very full on right now with
    public messaging work to the city I live in (all virus related urgent stuff
    I and my team do) so I have not focused too much on things here.

    I am occupied with cleaning up php injections that occured in early March
    in some Wordpress installations.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Ogg on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 16:49:04
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 11:40p, Ogg pondered and said...

    Are any of those types of businesses included in your Level 4 lockdown?

    Head to covid19.govt.nz :) I think it's all there. But in short way less businesses will be open compared to your country I think.

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  • From Tiny@21:1/130 to Ogg on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:30:48
    Quoting Ogg to Avon <=-


    - jewellery store
    - novelty store
    - gem/mineral store

    Sit-down resaurants can operate as take-out, pickup or delivery, but
    they can't allow seated customer service.

    I think spa's, beauty salon, hair dresser, barber etc are also forced
    close? I couldn't find them on the list but I didn't look to hard
    either once I saw both Andrea and myself were essential service. (She
    cleans walmart part time at night, and I drive a taxi when I can get a
    shift which isn't often now (obviously).

    I am occupied with cleaning up php injections that occured in early
    March in some Wordpress installations.

    I have lots of computer projects to do, but I just don't have the
    motivation to do them. Would just rather watch youtube videos. LOL

    Shawn

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Avon on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 09:27:42
    On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 16:17:27 +1300
    "Avon -> All" <0@101.1.21> wrote:

    In a few hours my country goes into what they call a Level 4 lock
    down. It's a total shutdown / stay at home status that will run for
    four weeks to start with. Supermarkets, Pharmacies will remain open
    but all schools and business are shut and just a few essential
    services will remain open. The message is 'be kind, stay home, save
    lives"

    Very good that NZ is not waiting any longer, it's unavoidable anyway (South Korea being the exception). I wish we went into a more aggressive lock down a week earlier in Germany. We are still fine in comparison to Italy (or the US), but our numbers could be much lower.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 21:21:00
    On 03-25-20 16:17, Avon wrote to All <=-

    In a few hours my country goes into what they call a Level 4 lock down. It's a total shutdown / stay at home status that will run for four
    weeks to start with. Supermarkets, Pharmacies will remain open but all schools and business are shut and just a few essential services will remain open. The message is 'be kind, stay home, save lives"

    Yeah, I've heard snippets on Facebook. It'll probably come here soon too, though we're bacisally only meant to be out now for essential trips or exercise (on our own). Weddings and funerals have severe limitations on attendees (5 for weddings, which means basically the wedding party, and 10 for funerals). Gatherings of people are basically banned now, the largest being 10 for outdoor group PT/bootcamp sessions. And of course, any gathering requires people to maintain social distance.

    There's still some odd inconsistencies in that the Federal government is keeping schools open, but some states, most notably here in Victoria, have been closed by the state government. Similarly hairdressers are still allowed to trade (with restrictions).

    Anywhoo all of which is to say I will try not to be a stranger and as things settle into a new normal over the coming days as I start to work from home etc. I'm hoping as near normal service and bad Dad jokes can resume :)

    Yes, we need to keep hanging out here. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 21:31:00
    On 03-25-20 16:49, Avon wrote to Ogg <=-

    On 24 Mar 2020 at 11:40p, Ogg pondered and said...

    Are any of those types of businesses included in your Level 4 lockdown?

    Head to covid19.govt.nz :) I think it's all there. But in short way
    less businesses will be open compared to your country I think.

    Ouch, that's a bit nasty. Hope it's successful in stopping the spread. :)


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  • From garycrunk@21:4/126 to Avon on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:32:37
    after the cutting ties thing with g00r00 and then trying to help

    ??? I must have missed all of that. What happened?

    things settle into a new normal over the coming days as I start to work

    Stay Safe. As with Everyone

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Oli on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:15:55
    Very good that NZ is not waiting any longer, it's unavoidable anyway (South Korea being the exception). I wish we went into a more aggressive lock down a week earlier in Germany. We are still fine in comparison to Italy (or the US), but our numbers could be much lower.

    Totally agree! Want to see worse than Italy...keep watching. There's talk of letting everyone do whatever & just let whoever catches it die. Just another example of American Exceptionalism at its finest.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Avon on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 16:46:28
    Avon wrote to All <=-

    In a few hours my country goes into what they call a Level 4 lock down. It's a total shutdown / stay at home status that will run for four
    weeks to start with. Supermarkets, Pharmacies will remain open but all schools and business are shut and just a few essential services will remain open. The message is 'be kind, stay home, save lives"

    Wow. Our governor has closed pretty much everything but what you have
    listed there (plus gas stations and liquor stores!), but we don't have to
    stay at home. Indiana, on the other hand, is asking everyone to stay at
    home and only go out if you are going to the grocery or pharmacy.

    Most people here seem to be taking the social distancing pretty seriously.

    There is a rumor that someone in my building tested positive yesterday or Monday. It is probably the building with the most people inside it in this town so I guess that should not come as a surprise.


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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 20:54:14
    On 25 Mar 2020, Avon said the following...

    In a few hours my country goes into what they call a Level 4 lock down. It's a total shutdown / stay at home status that will run for four weeks to start with. Supermarkets, Pharmacies will remain open but all schools and business are shut and just a few essential services will remain

    Be safe Paul.. If I believe my local politicians it is getting better in my area, but I don't think it is.. It is hitting close to home now for me. My brother has been exposed to it as was all of his co-workers. He is a Postman and the white shirts all explained to them today they were exposed to it, but unless they are experiencing symptoms they can work! If Trump heard this he would flip! So I am in the middle of fighting with him to stay home and quarantine for 14 days. My wifes cousins have it, one is in the hospital on a ventilator (my age 57, never smoked in his life) and his wife is home on quarantine. So Be safe! Don't let the BBS stuff drive you crazy..

    Al

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to garycrunk on Thursday, March 26, 2020 21:49:13
    On 25 Mar 2020 at 12:32p, garycrunk pondered and said...

    after the cutting ties thing with g00r00 and then trying to help

    ??? I must have missed all of that. What happened?

    You'll need to read the post Gary but short version is he has opted to depart fsxNet at this time.

    things settle into a new normal over the coming days as I start to wo

    Stay Safe. As with Everyone

    Thanks, you too :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Blue White on Thursday, March 26, 2020 21:50:19
    On 25 Mar 2020 at 04:46p, Blue White pondered and said...

    stay at home. Indiana, on the other hand, is asking everyone to stay at home and only go out if you are going to the grocery or pharmacy.

    That's basically us as well.

    They 4 weeks I think it could go 8-12.

    There is a rumor that someone in my building tested positive yesterday or Monday. It is probably the building with the most people inside it in this town so I guess that should not come as a surprise.

    I hope you stay safe good sir.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Thursday, March 26, 2020 21:57:47
    On 25 Mar 2020 at 08:54p, Bucko pondered and said...

    me. My brother has been exposed to it as was all of his co-workers. He
    is a Postman and the white shirts all explained to them today they were exposed to it, but unless they are experiencing symptoms they can work!

    That's mad.

    with him to stay home and quarantine for 14 days. My wifes cousins have it, one is in the hospital on a ventilator (my age 57, never smoked in
    his life) and his wife is home on quarantine. So Be safe! Don't let the BBS stuff drive you crazy..

    He should stay put, the more he moves the more he could infect others.

    Take care, and yep I'll try to stay sane :)

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Thursday, March 26, 2020 21:15:00
    On 03-26-20 21:50, Avon wrote to Blue White <=-

    On 25 Mar 2020 at 04:46p, Blue White pondered and said...

    stay at home. Indiana, on the other hand, is asking everyone to stay at home and only go out if you are going to the grocery or pharmacy.

    That's basically us as well.

    They've asked us to do the same, though we're not as tight as NZ. However, the cops are cracking down on people who are supposed to be in self isolation, and apparently a number have been fined for brealing their isolation prematurely - the fines are quite big too, up to $20k for an individual and $100k for a company.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Avon on Thursday, March 26, 2020 08:27:03
    stay at home. Indiana, on the other hand, is asking everyone to stay home and only go out if you are going to the grocery or pharmacy.
    That's basically us as well.

    Keep your fingers crossed. Heading back to work after 3 days off & an order
    to stay home. My roommate has a note from work...so am hoping I can get 1 as well as long as the store is open & I can ride there.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Avon on Thursday, March 26, 2020 18:18:15
    Avon wrote to Blue White <=-

    They 4 weeks I think it could go 8-12.

    Our governor keeps saying "the next 2 week," but he was saying that a week
    ago also. :) I am thinking more like you are.

    There is a rumor that someone in my building tested positive yesterday or Monday. It is probably the building with the most people inside it in this town so I guess that should not come as a surprise.

    I hope you stay safe good sir.

    Thanks, you also! It turned out to be just a rumor. There have been
    several people sent home for having symptoms or living with someone with symptoms but, so far, no positive tests.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Blue White on Friday, March 27, 2020 19:38:50
    On 26 Mar 2020 at 06:18p, Blue White pondered and said...

    Thanks, you also! It turned out to be just a rumor. There have been several people sent home for having symptoms or living with someone with symptoms but, so far, no positive tests.

    Good news. Our cases keep rising but we locked down earlier than some
    countries so the hope is in the coming 2 weeks the totals reported will start to drop. Time will tell. Day 2 here and the place is very quiet and with a weekend about to start it feels anything like a normal one.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Avon on Friday, March 27, 2020 11:48:21
    Good news. Our cases keep rising but we locked down earlier than some countries so the hope is in the coming 2 weeks the totals reported will start to drop. Time will tell. Day 2 here and the place is very quiet
    and with a weekend about to start it feels anything like a normal one.

    GREAT NEWS! Here in the States...you are going to see millions dying to give the OPOS his 2nd term.

    Was at work yesterday & the lockdown here is a joke. In the 7 hours I was there...did 30 gallons of paint. That's not normal...except for now.
    Americans are going to die/go umemployed & those in public office are only protecting their arses.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:27:40
    Phoobar wrote to Avon <=-

    GREAT NEWS! Here in the States...you are going to see millions dying to give the OPOS his 2nd term.

    There are a lot of things the President does not have control over in the
    US. One of many examples is that it is your Governor who has control over
    when the National Guard gets sent into somewhere in your state.

    I am curious how your governor and local leaders reacted originally. I
    think ours did well. The ones in NY/NYC, on the other hand, were still encouraging New Yorkers to get out, engange in crowd activities, and to travel/go on their vacations right up until about two weeks ago... which is right about the time the coronavirus shot off like a rocket there.
    Remember, two weeks ago was long after the virus had hit the West Coast,
    and even after it had got to NYC... paraphrasing -- "if you don't feel
    sick, there is no reason not to get out and live life as normal." That was
    the governor or the NYC mayor, can't remember which.

    Our governor and at least the mayor of our largest city, meanwhile, were telling people to not do any of those things, even before we had our first cases.

    We are having issues in Kentucky because one of our neighboring states, Tennessee, is not following even the suggestions of the President, his
    health advisors, or the CDC. There is a lot of cross-border traffic in and around the Ft. Campbell area. People who are from KY that have to cross
    the boarder for work are coming into contact with people from TN which are
    not being asked to follow the same social guidelines when they are not at
    work (an example). We are seeing a localized hotspot in that area because
    of this.

    Your local authorities have more authority over most things than the
    President or Federal Government. There are things that the Federal
    Government does not have the authority to force them to do. If they are
    not following the suggested guidelines, that is on your local elected
    officials and not so much the Federal ones.

    If your local authorities are not setting good examples or are not
    enforcing anything, they are the ones you need to focus your attention on.



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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Blue White on Saturday, March 28, 2020 16:55:13
    On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 10:27:40 -0400
    "Blue White -> Phoobar" <0@134.4.21> wrote:

    Phoobar wrote to Avon <=-

    GREAT NEWS! Here in the States...you are going to see millions
    dying to give the OPOS his 2nd term.

    There are a lot of things the President does not have control over in
    the US.

    Especially President #45, who even has no control over himself.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Saturday, March 28, 2020 09:55:28
    US. One of many examples is that it is your Governor who has control
    over when the National Guard gets sent into somewhere in your state.

    Am still expecting it to attempt to tell the states to activate the NG units
    to get people out & about to jump start the economy & such.

    I am curious how your governor and local leaders reacted originally. I think ours did well. The ones in NY/NYC, on the other hand, were still encouraging New Yorkers to get out, engange in crowd activities, and to travel/go on their vacations right up until about two weeks ago... which

    Been hearing that as well from the news in Ottawa on the CBC. Here in Oregon...they were just saying it wasn't that bad & go about your business...until roughly the same time frame. Now...I get a daily update from the leader of the state legislature. Not being from Oregon...not sure how the state is organized.

    One thing I can tell you is people here are taking the emergency as a suggestion & not very serious.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 29, 2020 09:28:24
    One thing I can tell you is people here are taking the emergency as a suggestion & not very serious.

    Considering that Oregon has two hard-hit states at either border, that is
    not a good thing at all. :(



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Monday, March 30, 2020 00:26:33
    One thing I can tell you is people here are taking the emergency as a suggestion & not very serious.
    Considering that Oregon has two hard-hit states at either border, that is not a good thing at all. :(

    You would think so...as a normal person...but they think this will never hit them. Believe many are going to find out their Superman complex is going to turn them into Olive Oyl's instead. Along with hurting themselves...they are more than willing to hurt others. Hope this disease turns into a 2X4 that
    many people need to show they are a member of the human race.

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