• WFH

    From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to All on Saturday, March 21, 2020 08:55:00
    My wife and I are working from home, as are many others. While we're
    working, we have 2 kids doing online learning.

    I've got 200/40 cable internet, a border router running DD-WRT downstairs,
    and a powerline network feeding the BBS and my office. Powerline gets me
    40/20 to the office and 80/40 to the BBS, which is roughly good enough.

    I have a wifi extender upstairs that's mostly working, but it's hard to get
    a signal for it to repeat. Interference will cause it to drop out. I'm
    trying to find a better place for it, I'm disappointed because I have an outlet at almost ceiling level where track lighting was and I thought it'd
    be a perfect location for a repeater.

    I plugged an old router into a powerline adapter, and have it set as an AP with a different SSID than the primary, which I'm using for wifi calling; we have barely any service here at all.

    There's a technology called MOCA that sounds interesting, but it's hard to
    get any information. Picture Powerline running over cable. Apparently, it's how Comcast has their remote DVRs communicate with the main DVR, but they don't want anyone sharing data along the cable. Too bad, because I'd love to have my cable work like a backbone in the house.

    Things are mostly working.

    I could get off my duff and run some cable from my office to the bedroom
    where the cable modem is, but I'd need to get equipment to fish the cables through the floor, and I've had skunks, since evicted, living in the crawl space I'd need to go through to run it.

    My company uses Office365 and Slack, I'm able to do most of what I need from my home computer. I have a work laptop, most of the time I remote into it
    from my desktop.

    My wife is using on-premise services, she uses a VPN to connect to her
    office and then remote into her desktop. Printer redirection to a local printer is a bit sketchy, but she can print to PDF then mail or copy the PDF to her local system.

    We're running ESX for our local servers and AWS for production. There's no issue there rebooting services, etc.

    I do support for the office, too; I'm going to have to break the shelter-in- place rule to pick up a couple of spare laptops and shipping boxes in case I need to ship replacement systems out to people.

    I've wanted time to continue along the AWS certification path, I'm going to block out some days for professional development from the home.

    I hope everyone else is able to remain productive and occupied during these times, and that this message find you healthy and safe.





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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:19:56
    I hope everyone else is able to remain productive and occupied during these times, and that this message find you healthy and safe.

    My girlfriend and I live in a small space so our airport extreme wifi router
    is enough to serve our entire apartment. That said, the only high speed internet provider in my area is Comcast's XFinity, and they employ a monthly 1TB data cap irrespective of the internet package you actually purchase. Once you go over that cap, you start paying a lot.

    I don't see a world in the near term where we are able to stay under that
    data cap. :(

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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Poindexter Fortran on Saturday, March 21, 2020 15:28:17

    My work home base is now home, too. Provided we don't have any disasters that require physical hands on, that will continue to be the case.

    I have 1G/1G Internet at home, which ironically is the same speed as our main connections at each of our work locations. I use a combination of Horizon View
    remote desktop for work items and a laptop to VPN so I can answer my office desk VoIP phone if needed. I can get into any system or network router/switch/firewall at work remotely. We also use O365 and keep Teams up for chat, video, etc. Big ESXi environment with lots of Cisco. We do use a bunch of different firewalls - from Cisco, Palo Alto, and Sophos.

    We did have to physically deplot some hardware for this event last week but that has been completed. Always a chance that could be expanded and we will need to put together more remote wireless WAN setups.

    Most work the past week has been remote access, VPN, and wireless tent setup related. Many have never worked remote so this is a good learning experience for them.

    - Mark
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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Ryan on Saturday, March 21, 2020 15:36:52

    speed internet provider in my area is Comcast's XFinity, and they employ a monthly 1TB data cap irrespective of the internet package you actually purchase. Once you go over that cap, you start paying a lot.

    That sucks! The ISPs taking advantage of not enough competition. Comcast on the east coast has no data caps - only because you can get Verizon FIOS which is way faster and has no caps.

    I switched from Comcast to Verizon for internet back in January of this year. My last two months with Comcast, I downloaded over 3TB per month just to give them a goodbye present.

    - Mark
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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, March 22, 2020 12:15:00
    I have a wifi extender upstairs that's mostly working, but it's hard to get a signal for it to repeat. Interference will cause it to drop
    out. I'm trying to find a better place for it, I'm disappointed

    Ponder, I'd try the old kitchen utensil antenna first, and try banging a larger
    antenna on it if you can. If nothing else it should help SNR ratio and keep it
    more stable if not faster. Grab a collander, wok, or fry basket and just hold
    it behind the recieving antenna on the repeater. You might have to fiddle to find a sweet spot... essentially you're popping a reflective dish behind it to pick up more signal.

    In the past I've been able to get solid connect where I couldn't see the AP previously by doing this.

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Weatherman on Sunday, March 22, 2020 12:34:00
    setup related. Many have never worked remote so this is a good
    learning experience for them.

    Damnit I can't hit the reset button.. :) Always been my biggest problem with remote help for networking

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, March 22, 2020 13:08:00
    On 03-21-20 08:55, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to All <=-

    My wife and I are working from home, as are many others. While we're working, we have 2 kids doing online learning.

    Welcome to the new "normal". :)

    Things are mostly working.

    I could get off my duff and run some cable from my office to the
    bedroom where the cable modem is, but I'd need to get equipment to fish the cables through the floor, and I've had skunks, since evicted,
    living in the crawl space I'd need to go through to run it.

    I've come to the conclusion that nothing beats running Cat 5/6. Being in a rented house, I can't do any permanent installations, but I was able to run a cable across door frames and bookshelves, to get data flowing between the 2 halves of the LAN. In my book, it's worth the effort.

    I may be building (well getting contractors to build) a house, and one of the things that will be done is to have Cat 6 (or wherever is the highest standard now) cabling run throughout the house, while it's still under construction. That way, it's cheaper and more convenient, and I will have provision for a patch panel and server rack. Also want to run solar and batteries, which will more than offset the cost of running any servers that I setup. :)

    I hope everyone else is able to remain productive and occupied during these times, and that this message find you healthy and safe.

    I'm unaffected at this time, as far as IT goes. The biggest impact for me is on extracurricular activities, but I have plans in place to cope with everything from the current social distancing rules to full lockdown that doesn't allow me to travel at all.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ryan on Sunday, March 22, 2020 13:12:00
    On 03-21-20 11:19, ryan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I hope everyone else is able to remain productive and occupied during these times, and that this message find you healthy and safe.

    My girlfriend and I live in a small space so our airport extreme wifi router is enough to serve our entire apartment. That said, the only
    high speed internet provider in my area is Comcast's XFinity, and they employ a monthly 1TB data cap irrespective of the internet package you actually purchase. Once you go over that cap, you start paying a lot.

    I don't see a world in the near term where we are able to stay under
    that data cap. :(

    I'm lucky, I'm on unlimited data, no cap at all. As for wifi, I have coverage over most of the house. Looking to add a second router as a wifi extender (connected to the main router by Cat 5/6). The router I'm using now will require a firmware update, the other one should have been auto updating, from what I remember of its configuration. This will provide infill wifi coverage and solid coverage in the backyard and other areas likely to be used in the event of a lockdown.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Weatherman on Sunday, March 22, 2020 13:17:00
    On 03-21-20 15:28, Weatherman wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    Most work the past week has been remote access, VPN, and wireless tent setup related. Many have never worked remote so this is a good
    learning experience for them.

    It is different, but I first learned the art as a co-sysop in the 90s, logging into the BBS and doing configuration using DOORWAY. Got good at tweaking just about anything on the system without locking myself out and having to phone the sysop to get the system reset. That was actually a rare event. :)

    I brought that skill set to managing Windows and Linux servers over VPN between suburbs and even states by the year 2000, and several years later, working totally remotely for everything that didn't require physical presence (like hardware changes).

    And today, I have so many SSH windows open that "local" and "remote" operations are practically the same thing.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Sunday, March 22, 2020 14:01:00
    On 03-22-20 12:34, Spectre wrote to Weatherman <=-

    setup related. Many have never worked remote so this is a good
    learning experience for them.

    Damnit I can't hit the reset button.. :) Always been my biggest
    problem with remote help for networking

    Remote working on networking is possible, but you have to be _really_ switched on. I got away with it many times, by being careful with my configuration and sequencing. Some things that had to be done:

    1. Ensure that the network coonfiguration would come up to something useable, if the machine was rebooted (whether by you or by someone local that may have no tech knowledge.

    2. Run through _every change in your head.

    3. "stack" commands known to interrupt connectivity, so the network comes back up. For example, when restarting an interface, use something like:

    ifcfg eth0 down ; ifcfg eth0 up

    You won't be able to issue the latter command on its own, if eth0 is the interface via which you're connected! :D

    4. Routing changes can really get you. Be _very_ careful here!!! Run every routing change over in your head multiple times, before committing. Also, consider setting up a host route from the remote machine to your workstation, before proceeding, then testing every change incrementally!

    Yep, I've been there, done that and made the phone calls to get things fixed.
    D


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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 21, 2020 20:29:56
    Remote working on networking is possible, but you have to be _really_ switched on. I got away with it many times, by being careful with my configuration and sequencing. Some things that had to be done:
    Yeah at that cloud provider we didn't even usually have remote hands, so literally everything was reviewed before going into play. I got really used
    to working on the airplane while it was flying. Can't recall a time any of
    my changes blew up production, but others definitely screwed the pooch a time or two.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Embalmed on Sunday, March 22, 2020 18:31:00
    On 03-21-20 20:29, Embalmed wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yeah at that cloud provider we didn't even usually have remote hands,
    so literally everything was reviewed before going into play. I got
    really used to working on the airplane while it was flying. Can't
    recall a time any of my changes blew up production, but others
    definitely screwed the pooch a time or two.

    Yeah, I only screwed up regularly, but at least every time, there was someone on the other end. I had one near miss when no one was in Sydney, I was rebooting the Linux VPN router, and I accidentally put a -h instead of -r in the shutdown command... Oops. Luckily, I pucked up the error immediately after hitting the enter key, and with a bit of quick thinking and typing, I was able to override the command with a "shutdown -r now", and no one was any the wiser. :D


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 22, 2020 19:10:00
    I've come to the conclusion that nothing beats running Cat 5/6. Being in a rented house, I can't do any permanent installations,

    Of course you can ;) You just disguise it amongst the existing fittings. I popped a couple of points into my last address, although I had plenty of space to get under the house too. Bang them in next to existing phone jacks or substitue one for the old cable... works a treat :)

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 22, 2020 19:15:00
    Remote working on networking is possible, but you have to be _really_ switched on. I got away with it many times, by being careful with
    my configuration and sequencing. Some things that had to be done:

    In the early days I found it exceedingly difficult. But concur so long as the device it "network stable" most admin can be done happily without having to resort to reset.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Sunday, March 22, 2020 20:36:00
    On 03-22-20 19:10, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Of course you can ;) You just disguise it amongst the existing
    fittings. I popped a couple of points into my last address, although I had plenty of space to get under the house too. Bang them in next to existing phone jacks or substitue one for the old cable... works a
    treat :)

    Getting under the house isn't an option, and phone points aren't in a useful location.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Sunday, March 22, 2020 20:37:00
    On 03-22-20 19:15, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Remote working on networking is possible, but you have to be _really_ switched on. I got away with it many times, by being careful with
    my configuration and sequencing. Some things that had to be done:

    In the early days I found it exceedingly difficult. But concur so long
    as the device it "network stable" most admin can be done happily
    without having to resort to reset.

    Takes practice. ;)


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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 22, 2020 09:45:20

    I've come to the conclusion that nothing beats running Cat 5/6. Being in a rented house, I can't do any permanent installations, but I was able to
    run a cable across door frames and bookshelves, to get data flowing
    between the 2 halves of the LAN. In my book, it's worth the effort.

    True. I have (5) wireless APs in the house for mobile devices and IoT items. Everything else is wired. One of the first things I did when we moved here was
    run loads of Cat5e everywhere. Each room got at least a quad jack. The only one I missed and have since added cabling is in the garage.

    - Mark
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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 22, 2020 09:48:46

    Remote working on networking is possible, but you have to be _really_ switched on. I got away with it many times, by being careful with my

    One trick which can be used on Cisco routers is "reload in 5". That will basically reboot the router in 5 minutes. If you accidentally cause an outage and get disconnected, the router will reboot and go back to the original configuration.

    Now you also can't forget to issue the "reload cancel" if your changes worked..
    :)

    - Mark
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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, March 22, 2020 09:31:27
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to All <=-

    I hope everyone else is able to remain productive and occupied during these times, and that this message find you healthy and safe.

    Hope you are also. I have found that trying to keep most of my routine in
    tact helps a lot. I do sleep in a little later, since I don't have to
    commute, but I still eat shower, eat breakfast, get dressed (except
    shoes!), just like I would if I was going into the office. I have a home office that I set up in... I don't carry the work laptop to sit in front of
    the TV, etc.

    I have figured out that I will have to go in about once a week to do some things I cannot do from remote. If I was hard pressed, I could probably do some coding and get around that. Once the development group gets a bug fix
    in place, a lot of that will go away anyway.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 23, 2020 04:36:00
    Getting under the house isn't an option, and phone points aren't
    in a useful location.

    Ahh you have one of those low slung models :) That does make life trickier. If
    you can roll your own cable, and its not solid brick because there's plenty of
    those there too, it might be conceiveable to go through the wall above the floor plate. If you wanted it to look neat stick a wall plate on each side. Floor plate will rise about 50-60mm above the floorboards usually. It'll be behind the skirting, thats nailed to it. A bit of filler and a quick touchup when you move out :)

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Weatherman on Monday, March 23, 2020 06:47:00
    True. I have (5) wireless APs in the house for mobile devices and IoT

    5? Wow, they'd be beating each other around looking for bandwidth wouldn't they? I often end up using 2 APs one for the alsorans (family) and one for the mission critical work, (BBS, and my stuff). I found if I try and cram everything through one AP it grinds not quite to a halt but certainly a snail pace.

    Spec


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to ryan on Saturday, March 21, 2020 22:24:00
    ryan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I don't see a world in the near term where we are able to stay under
    that data cap. :(

    I got to 600GB and it took a LOT to get there - mad torrenting and
    downloading a couple of ISOs!


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Blue White on Sunday, March 22, 2020 10:32:00
    Blue White wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Hope you are also. I have found that trying to keep most of my routine
    in tact helps a lot. I do sleep in a little later, since I don't have
    to commute, but I still eat shower, eat breakfast, get dressed (except shoes!), just like I would if I was going into the office.

    That helps a lot, I've worked from home for employers, freelanced, and spent time looking for jobs at home, but always had a partner who worked a normal schedule, which anchored me to a routine and a schedule.

    I'm doing the same with my kids. My son's phone stays upstairs in our
    charging spot while he's "in school" from 8-3, and my daughter has similar restrictions during school. Then, they finish their homework (or we we call
    it now, "Work") and then get to watch TV, read, play games, etc.

    I hope it'll help when things go back to normal.



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  • From alterego@21:2/116 to Spectre on Monday, March 23, 2020 08:59:49
    Re: Re: WFH
    By: Spectre to Weatherman on Mon Mar 23 2020 06:47 am

    True. I have (5) wireless APs in the house for mobile devices and
    IoT
    5? Wow, they'd be beating each other around looking for bandwidth wouldn't they? I often end up using 2 APs one for the alsorans (family) and one for

    Well, I've only got 1 set of ORBI's - which is 2 devices, a router and an extender.

    Before I bought the ORBIs (expensive things they are), I struggled with wifi in
    the house. (Probably struggled more with the wife to be honest.) With same or different SIDs, traveling to each end of the house (I have a looong house), different types of extenders, even two routers - it was always problematic. Personal device took too long to switch, if they switched at all. I even got in
    the roof and ran cat 5 to each end of the house, hoping it would make things better. (And the interent port was at 1 end).

    Having bought the ORBIs all my wifi trouble vanished. 1 SID, (house) roaming coverage, high bandwidth everywhere and most importantly the wife no longer complains - but actually compliments. It was worth it :)

    They are great devices, but expensive though, and easy to manage, connect and roam.
    ...deon


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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, March 22, 2020 18:00:49
    I got to 600GB and it took a LOT to get there - mad torrenting and downloading a couple of ISOs!

    Lol, I average 3TB/month and that is just one of my paths.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to alterego on Monday, March 23, 2020 11:46:00
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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to alterego on Monday, March 23, 2020 11:57:00
    Before I bought the ORBIs (expensive things they are), I struggled with wifi in the house. (Probably struggled more with the wife to be honest.)

    I don't have a lot of space to cover really, but it was a matter of dumping about half the traffic into a different AP and moving it to a second channel, after seeing how noisey the general neighbourhood was.

    There was too much traffic wanting high throughput for G to keep up with, and thats what most of the devices are still.

    Don't know the Orbi... might have a look...

    Spec


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  • From alterego@21:2/116 to Spectre on Monday, March 23, 2020 12:14:16
    Re: WFH
    By: Spectre to alterego on Mon Mar 23 2020 11:46 am

    Hey...

    I've seen a few of these from you recently?

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    PEBKAC or something broken? ;)
    ...deon


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to alterego on Monday, March 23, 2020 16:05:00
    They seem to occur semi randomly if I abort a message without writing anything,
    I guess because of my UTC kludge. Means that the empty message is different to an empty message. The BBS inserts it into the msg base.

    I also have an intermittent problem where quoting doesn't work when replying, usually just aborting and having another go will fix the problem. Occasionaly it requires more than one go.

    That'd be where the empties come from.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Weatherman on Monday, March 23, 2020 16:13:00
    On 03-22-20 09:45, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    True. I have (5) wireless APs in the house for mobile devices and IoT items. Everything else is wired. One of the first things I did when we moved here was
    run loads of Cat5e everywhere. Each room got at least a quad jack.
    The only one I missed and have since added cabling is in the garage.

    There's a good chance I may be getting a house built later this year. If that comes to pass. I'll definitely be getting Ethernet cabling pre installed, so I can have solid wired infrastructure in every room. Whether I wire devices in, or use it to run an AP to extend range, having the wired backbone is a more reliable option. I aloo plan to upgrade the backbone to at least 1Gbps.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Weatherman on Monday, March 23, 2020 16:14:00
    On 03-22-20 09:48, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-


    Remote working on networking is possible, but you have to be _really_ switched on. I got away with it many times, by being careful with my

    One trick which can be used on Cisco routers is "reload in 5". That
    will basically reboot the router in 5 minutes. If you accidentally
    cause an outage and get disconnected, the router will reboot and go
    back to the original configuration.

    That's a neat feature. :)

    Now you also can't forget to issue the "reload cancel" if your changes worked..
    :)

    Even better. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Monday, March 23, 2020 16:19:00
    On 03-23-20 04:36, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Getting under the house isn't an option, and phone points aren't
    in a useful location.

    Ahh you have one of those low slung models :) That does make life trickier. If
    you can roll your own cable, and its not solid brick because there's plenty of

    Yep solid brick as well, internal walls included. :)

    those there too, it might be conceiveable to go through the wall above the floor plate. If you wanted it to look neat stick a wall plate on
    each side. Floor plate will rise about 50-60mm above the floorboards usually. It'll be behind the skirting, thats nailed to it. A bit of filler and a quick touchup when you move out :)

    Well, now it's not worth making the attempt, good chance we'll be out by the end of the year, and in something we can wire as needed. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, March 23, 2020 16:52:00
    On 03-21-20 22:24, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to ryan <=-

    ryan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I don't see a world in the near term where we are able to stay under
    that data cap. :(

    I got to 600GB and it took a LOT to get there - mad torrenting and downloading a couple of ISOs!

    Haha our record here is upwards of 2.5TB in a month! :D


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Monday, March 23, 2020 16:54:00
    On 03-23-20 11:57, Spectre wrote to alterego <=-

    Don't know the Orbi... might have a look...

    They sound like a useful device. :)


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  • From Terry Roati@21:5/101 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 23, 2020 17:31:46

    I would suggest that the ethernet cable you install can be replaced in the future with fiber or at least the critical ones. I use two Unifi APs to cover the house seamlessly, you can move anywhere around the house and never loose the connection.

    On Mar 23, 2020 04:02pm, Vk3jed wrote to Weatherman:

    On 03-22-20 09:45, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    True. I have (5) wireless APs in the house for mobile devices and IoT
    items. Everything else is wired. One of the first things I did when we
    moved here was
    run loads of Cat5e everywhere. Each room got at least a quad jack.
    The only one I missed and have since added cabling is in the garage.

    There's a good chance I may be getting a house built later this year.
    If that comes to pass. I'll definitely be getting Ethernet cabling pre installed, so I can have solid wired infrastructure in every room.
    Whether I wire devices in, or use it to run an AP to extend range,
    having the wired backbone is a more reliable option. I aloo plan to upgrade the backbone to at least 1Gbps.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Terry Roati on Monday, March 23, 2020 20:35:00
    On 03-23-20 17:31, Terry Roati wrote to Vk3jed <=-


    I would suggest that the ethernet cable you install can be replaced in
    the future with fiber or at least the critical ones. I use two Unifi
    APs to cover the house seamlessly, you can move anywhere around the
    house and never loose the connection.

    Would have to work out how to interface that to everything. I have a policy of wiring everything that's fixed in, and saving wifi for mobile devices.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 23, 2020 20:35:00
    Well, now it's not worth making the attempt, good chance we'll be out
    by the end of the year, and in something we can wire as needed.
    :)

    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. In that time it might still be a bit of a pipe dream. :/

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 23, 2020 21:11:00
    I got to 600GB and it took a LOT to get there - mad torrenting and downloading a couple of ISOs!

    Haha our record here is upwards of 2.5TB in a month! :D

    I have not idea what my high point is, but for a good length of time back there
    I used to be able to live in 500mb/Month... of course kids playing with PS/4's
    and SWMBO watching netflix would eat that alive now.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Monday, March 23, 2020 21:54:00
    On 03-23-20 20:35, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Well, now it's not worth making the attempt, good chance we'll be out
    by the end of the year, and in something we can wire as needed.
    :)

    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. In that time it might still be a bit of a pipe dream. :/

    Maybe, only time will tell.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Monday, March 23, 2020 21:55:00
    On 03-23-20 21:11, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I got to 600GB and it took a LOT to get there - mad torrenting and downloading a couple of ISOs!

    Haha our record here is upwards of 2.5TB in a month! :D

    I have not idea what my high point is, but for a good length of time
    back there
    I used to be able to live in 500mb/Month... of course kids playing
    with PS/4's
    and SWMBO watching netflix would eat that alive now.


    You don't monitor? ;)


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 09:33:00
    You don't monitor? ;)

    Generally, no I don't.. unless there's an issue... I tend to spot rogue issues due to system load and odd processes ;)

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:56:00
    On 03-24-20 09:33, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You don't monitor? ;)

    Generally, no I don't.. unless there's an issue... I tend to spot rogue issues due to system load and odd processes ;)

    That's true. :)


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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Spectre on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 13:00:51

    5? Wow, they'd be beating each other around looking for bandwidth wouldn't they? I often end up using 2 APs one for the alsorans (family) and one for the mission critical work, (BBS, and my stuff). I found if I try and cram everything through one AP it grinds not quite to a halt but certainly a snail pace.

    Originally I got by with (1) AP on the 2.4Ghz. Due to getting decent 5Ghz coverage and all the IoT devices I now have, upped the total to (5). Not all (5) have their 2.4Ghz radio turned on. All have 5Ghz enabled, but only (3) have 2.4 since the coverage is much larger on that frequency and less channels.

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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Poindexter Fortran on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 13:04:00

    I got to 600GB and it took a LOT to get there - mad torrenting and downloading a couple of ISOs!

    Speaking of excessive transfers.... I'm in the process of copying 65T of files
    from one file server at home to the other. Just as an emergency backup as I work towards changing servers. All RAID5, but wanted backup copy just in case.

    Should be done in about 6 days.. :)

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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Embalmed on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 13:11:48

    Lol, I average 3TB/month and that is just one of my paths.

    Another fellow data hoarder like myself.. :)

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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 13:28:30

    There's a good chance I may be getting a house built later this year. If that comes to pass. I'll definitely be getting Ethernet cabling pre installed, so I can have solid wired infrastructure in every room. Whether
    I wire devices in, or use it to run an AP to extend range, having the
    wired backbone is a more reliable option. I aloo plan to upgrade the backbone to at least 1Gbps.

    Sounds great! Much easier to run the wires before the walls and home is completely built.

    I did all the ethernet drops before out basement was finished which made some of the work easier. The rest, I used an old gas hot water heater exhaust as a conduit to get everything to the attic and then down the 2nd floor walls.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Weatherman on Thursday, March 26, 2020 20:11:00
    On 03-25-20 13:28, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Sounds great! Much easier to run the wires before the walls and home
    is completely built.

    Yep, that's the plan. I want Ethernet capability throughout the house.

    I did all the ethernet drops before out basement was finished which
    made some of the work easier. The rest, I used an old gas hot water heater exhaust as a conduit to get everything to the attic and then
    down the 2nd floor walls.

    Cool. Well, we'll only be single storey, and basements are almost unheard of over here.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 26, 2020 08:32:10
    Cool. Well, we'll only be single storey, and basements are almost
    unheard of over here.

    In the past...especially back East in Tornado Alley...every house had a basement. Now...they are kind of rare...except for homes which want a game
    room or such.

    Do you guys get many tornado & weather like that here in the US?

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Friday, March 27, 2020 17:20:00
    On 03-26-20 08:32, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Cool. Well, we'll only be single storey, and basements are almost
    unheard of over here.

    In the past...especially back East in Tornado Alley...every house had a basement. Now...they are kind of rare...except for homes which want a
    game room or such.

    Yeah I can understand it in Tornado Alley.

    Do you guys get many tornado & weather like that here in the US?

    Tornados are possible, but far less frequent or intense than the US. Last one that touched down here in town was in 2003.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Friday, March 27, 2020 11:52:28
    Do you guys get many tornado & weather like that here in the US?
    Tornados are possible, but far less frequent or intense than the US.
    Last one that touched down here in town was in 2003.

    WOW!!! Remember back in the 80's...was traveling from a remote job site back
    to wherever I was...about 150 miles or so. Found out that I had outrun a
    major tornado. When I was younger...used to live across from the local
    school. One came by & ripped off half the roof. It was almost EXACTLY half at that. Laid it in the parking lot in front...just like it was waiting to be
    put onto the building. At least out here in Oregon...just have to worry about earthquakes/Typhoons/volcanos in Yellowstone.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:02:00
    On 03-27-20 11:52, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Do you guys get many tornado & weather like that here in the US?
    Tornados are possible, but far less frequent or intense than the US.
    Last one that touched down here in town was in 2003.

    WOW!!! Remember back in the 80's...was traveling from a remote job site back to wherever I was...about 150 miles or so. Found out that I had

    I lived in Melbourne when the tornado went through here, but I know where the track was, and it passed within 1/2-1 mile from where I am. The tornado was rated at F2.

    outrun a major tornado. When I was younger...used to live across from
    the local school. One came by & ripped off half the roof. It was almost EXACTLY half at that. Laid it in the parking lot in front...just like
    it was waiting to be put onto the building. At least out here in Oregon...just have to worry about earthquakes/Typhoons/volcanos in Yellowstone.

    Here, bushfires are the main danger here. One of the 2009 Black Saturday fires went through around a mile on the opposite side to where the tornado went through! I was actually out running in part of that area this morning, coincidentally. :)


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  • From alterego@21:2/116 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 28, 2020 14:50:08
    Re: Re: WFH
    By: Vk3jed to Phoobar on Sat Mar 28 2020 12:02 pm

    Tornados are possible, but far less frequent or intense than the US.
    Last one that touched down here in town was in 2003.

    Are you forgetting that one that hit Bendigo in June 2019? :)
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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 28, 2020 00:15:16
    WOW!!! Remember back in the 80's...was traveling from a remote job si back to wherever I was...about 150 miles or so. Found out that I had
    I lived in Melbourne when the tornado went through here, but I know
    where the track was, and it passed within 1/2-1 mile from where I am.
    The tornado was rated at F2.

    The bad thing is unless it really is something which can open a hole to hell...most of those in Tornado Alley just know when the alarm goes off...you race to the community storm shelter in some sort of underground structure.

    Here, bushfires are the main danger here. One of the 2009 Black
    Saturday fires went through around a mile on the opposite side to where the tornado went through! I was actually out running in part of that
    area this morning, coincidentally. :)

    We just went thru that season again. BTW...with Covid all the news...any news of these fires?

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to alterego on Saturday, March 28, 2020 19:31:00
    On 03-28-20 14:50, alterego wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Re: Re: WFH
    By: Vk3jed to Phoobar on Sat Mar 28 2020 12:02 pm

    Tornados are possible, but far less frequent or intense than the US.
    Last one that touched down here in town was in 2003.

    Are you forgetting that one that hit Bendigo in June 2019? :)

    Hmm, technically, it was Axe Creek, a fair way out of town.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 28, 2020 19:39:00
    On 03-28-20 00:15, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The bad thing is unless it really is something which can open a hole to hell...most of those in Tornado Alley just know when the alarm goes off...you race to the community storm shelter in some sort of
    underground structure.

    Sneaky buggers. :D

    We just went thru that season again. BTW...with Covid all the
    news...any news of these fires?

    They're all out. The fire affected areas have had quite a bit of rain since early Feb.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 28, 2020 09:28:46
    off...you race to the community storm shelter in some sort of underground structure.
    Sneaky buggers. :D

    Oh yeah. They try to give you a 10-15 minute warning to give you time to get there. Sometimes...doesn't happen since the storm has a mind of it's own.

    news...any news of these fires?
    They're all out. The fire affected areas have had quite a bit of rain since early Feb.

    Fantastic...some good news...only if they don't flood out.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 29, 2020 14:47:00
    On 03-28-20 09:28, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    off...you race to the community storm shelter in some sort of underground structure.
    Sneaky buggers. :D

    Oh yeah. They try to give you a 10-15 minute warning to give you time
    to get there. Sometimes...doesn't happen since the storm has a mind of it's own.

    Yeah they can strike without warning. :)

    news...any news of these fires?
    They're all out. The fire affected areas have had quite a bit of rain since early Feb.

    Fantastic...some good news...only if they don't flood out.

    There were some floods at one stage, but the rains recently have tapered off to getting a useful couple of inches every now and then.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 29, 2020 00:38:15
    to get there. Sometimes...doesn't happen since the storm has a mind o it's own.
    Yeah they can strike without warning. :)

    The movie Tornado was shot in Northern Oklahoma. The terror you see with
    people looking for some place to sit it out is real. There were many in that region who had a hard time watching it.

    Fantastic...some good news...only if they don't flood out.
    There were some floods at one stage, but the rains recently have tapered off to getting a useful couple of inches every now and then.

    Happy things have settled down for them in this respect. Now if those labs
    find their results work...that would be the best news in the world. Don't expect to hear much good news here in the US...unless you can afford a small fortune for said results.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 29, 2020 21:46:00
    On 03-29-20 00:38, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    to get there. Sometimes...doesn't happen since the storm has a mind o it's own.
    Yeah they can strike without warning. :)

    The movie Tornado was shot in Northern Oklahoma. The terror you see
    with people looking for some place to sit it out is real. There were
    many in that region who had a hard time watching it.

    Sounds like it was well done. Reminds me, we watched "Contagion" today, and noticed they got a number of things right, like social distancing and some of the timelines. Was fairly well done, actually.

    Fantastic...some good news...only if they don't flood out.
    There were some floods at one stage, but the rains recently have tapered off to getting a useful couple of inches every now and then.

    Happy things have settled down for them in this respect. Now if those
    labs find their results work...that would be the best news in the
    world. Don't expect to hear much good news here in the US...unless you
    can afford a small fortune for said results.


    Some good news here, seems the social distancing measures might be working. The rate of new infections has dropped from 30%/day to under 15%/day, and now is around the earliest time you'd see any effects as the first measures came in 2 weeks ago. The government is tightning things again, allowing gatherings of only 2 people inside or out, if they're not members of the same household.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 29, 2020 23:56:52
    The movie Tornado was shot in Northern Oklahoma. The terror you see with people looking for some place to sit it out is real. There were many in that region who had a hard time watching it.
    Sounds like it was well done. Reminds me, we watched "Contagion" today, and noticed they got a number of things right, like social distancing
    and some of the timelines. Was fairly well done, actually.

    Was that the TV they tried several years ago on The CW here in the US or the movie version?

    Some good news here, seems the social distancing measures might be working. The rate of new infections has dropped from 30%/day to under 15%/day, and now is around the earliest time you'd see any effects as
    the first measures came in 2 weeks ago. The government is tightning things again, allowing gatherings of only 2 people inside or out, if they're not members of the same household.

    That's FANTASTIC NEWS!!!! Hope the rate keeps heading downwards. Over here...the world is going to end up seeing the rate jack up like crazy to try to get the OPOS reelected in November...rather than allowing it to get the disease & do to it what it wants to do to many of the poor/non-whites.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 30, 2020 20:05:00
    On 03-29-20 23:56, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Sounds like it was well done. Reminds me, we watched "Contagion" today, and noticed they got a number of things right, like social distancing
    and some of the timelines. Was fairly well done, actually.

    Was that the TV they tried several years ago on The CW here in the US
    or the movie version?

    The movie.

    Some good news here, seems the social distancing measures might be working. The rate of new infections has dropped from 30%/day to under 15%/day, and now is around the earliest time you'd see any effects as
    the first measures came in 2 weeks ago. The government is tightning things again, allowing gatherings of only 2 people inside or out, if they're not members of the same household.

    That's FANTASTIC NEWS!!!! Hope the rate keeps heading downwards. Over

    Yes, see if the trend continues, here's hoping, but the early signs are encouraging. Best case scenario is that local restrictions can be eased in a reasonable amount of time. But I suspect travel restrictions and quarantine of inbound travellers will have to continue for much longer. So far, there hasn't been a lot of community transmission here. the vast majority of cases are from people arriving from overseas, and most of the rest are contacts of those people.

    here...the world is going to end up seeing the rate jack up like crazy
    to try to get the OPOS reelected in November...rather than allowing it
    to get the disease & do to it what it wants to do to many of the poor/non-whites.

    rather than... that seems to create a conflicting meaning for the second half of that paragraph *confused look*.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 30, 2020 15:38:39
    Was that the TV they tried several years ago on The CW here in the US or the movie version?
    The movie.

    Got both of them...but with the constant badgering about it in the
    news...ended up watching the newest version of The Twilight Zone from my server. Hell of a remake that gives me the WOW with every episode...just like the original with Serling.

    Yes, see if the trend continues, here's hoping, but the early signs are encouraging. Best case scenario is that local restrictions can be eased in a reasonable amount of time. But I suspect travel restrictions and

    You hit it right on the head with reasonable amount of time. Don't care what excuses someone can give...things will get back to some sort of normal eventually...but you want it to continue more & more...keep doing what other idiots just like yourself (not you) are doing to stretch this out to months/years. I can eat beans 3 times a day...as long as I don't go around
    open flame. I can do this...everyone else can as well.

    to try to get the OPOS reelected in November...rather than allowing i to get the disease & do to it what it wants to do to many of the poor/non-whites.
    rather than... that seems to create a conflicting meaning for the second half of that paragraph *confused look*.

    That thing which calls itself president is willing to have tons of people die as long as he can win reelection...which will be the poor whites/non-whites.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 20:24:00
    On 03-30-20 15:38, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-\

    Got both of them...but with the constant badgering about it in the news...ended up watching the newest version of The Twilight Zone from
    my server. Hell of a remake that gives me the WOW with every episode...just like the original with Serling.

    It's nice to know there is a remake actually worth watching (normally I'm so over remakes).

    You hit it right on the head with reasonable amount of time. Don't care what excuses someone can give...things will get back to some sort of normal eventually...but you want it to continue more & more...keep
    doing what other idiots just like yourself (not you) are doing to
    stretch this out to months/years. I can eat beans 3 times a day...as
    long as I don't go around open flame. I can do this...everyone else can
    as well.

    Yep, we all do our bit and we can get back to normality sooner. If I can manage it, with my needs that can't be met at home (ever tried to do sprint training in a few yeard of space? ;) ), then anyone can. :)

    to try to get the OPOS reelected in November...rather than allowing i to get the disease & do to it what it wants to do to many of the poor/non-whites.
    rather than... that seems to create a conflicting meaning for the second half of that paragraph *confused look*.

    That thing which calls itself president is willing to have tons of
    people die as long as he can win reelection...which will be the poor whites/non-whites.

    Yeah that makes more sense, the way you originally said it actually contradicted that a bit. ;)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 18:40:43
    my server. Hell of a remake that gives me the WOW with every episode...just like the original with Serling.
    It's nice to know there is a remake actually worth watching (normally
    I'm so over remakes).

    My co-worker & I were talking about this this afternoon. Both of us were shocked it had caught the spirit of the original so well. I would compare it
    to Star Trek II-The Wrath of Khan.

    long as I don't go around open flame. I can do this...everyone else c as well.
    Yep, we all do our bit and we can get back to normality sooner. If I can

    True. Am hoping that with some extra money this summer...with the weather...would like to go camping for a day or so. No computer/TV...but a radio to listen to music/such under the stars. For that matter...my LG phone has the radio chip in it...just need to hook the headphones & turn on the speaker. That's the reason I got that phone...an FM radio.

    That thing which calls itself president is willing to have tons of people die as long as he can win reelection...which will be the poor whites/non-whites.
    Yeah that makes more sense, the way you originally said it actually contradicted that a bit. ;)

    Never said I was the perfect novelist. ;)

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  • From @21:4/10 to Phoobar on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 22:27:37
    Re: Re: WFH
    By: Phoobar to Vk3jed on Wed Apr 01 2020 06:40 pm

    True. Am hoping that with some extra money this summer...with the weather...would like to go camping for a day or so. No computer/TV...but a radio to listen to music/such under the stars. For that matter...my LG

    [laughing]

    I like to hear this being I want to move near by a town with 800 people,
    maybe 40 mins drive from me.

    Right now looking for 40 to 60 acres of land to build on in the very north
    of the upper UP of Michigan.

    Sounds like your in my kind of thinking






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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, April 02, 2020 14:19:00
    On 04-01-20 18:40, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    My co-worker & I were talking about this this afternoon. Both of us
    were shocked it had caught the spirit of the original so well. I would

    Indeed, that is very rare. I find more remakes vary between crap and OKish.

    compare it to Star Trek II-The Wrath of Khan.

    That wasn't exactly a remake, but it was an excellent continuation of a thread started in TOS. :)

    True. Am hoping that with some extra money this summer...with the weather...would like to go camping for a day or so. No
    computer/TV...but a radio to listen to music/such under the stars. For that matter...my LG phone has the radio chip in it...just need to hook
    the headphones & turn on the speaker. That's the reason I got that phone...an FM radio.

    Hmm, the phone's FM radio is often not that useful to me, because it requires wired headphones, and these days, I use all Bluetooth, which doesn't exactly provide a good antenna for the FM. ;) As for camping, Strongly discouraged here now, and if you don't get arrested or fined for doing it, you probably would soon. :)

    Never said I was the perfect novelist. ;)

    On some ways, I'm pretty tolerant, but OTOH, because I think differently to most people, I am very sensitive to ambiguities and pick those up easily, and experience tells me that assumption is the mother of all f*ckups. :D


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to all on Thursday, April 02, 2020 18:28:01
     I like to hear this being I want to move near by a town with 800 people,
     maybe 40 mins drive from me.
    `
    Nope. Grew up in a small town that size growing up. In 40 years...done my
    best to stay away from places like that.

     Right now looking for 40 to 60 acres of land to build on in the very
     north of the upper UP of Michigan.

    Buddy of mine in Idaho gets the land ads. He's found some deals in Arkansas/Oklahoma/Northern Idaho/Eastern Washington. Would not consider the former...since I grew up in the Bible Noose. On the other hand...a buddy has some land out in the Yuma area in Arizona his parents bought 40 years ago. Looked into purchasing part of it & doing this...but very hard to get water
    out there...but solar/wind would be a dream.

    Personally...would love to get a quarter of an acre to put one of those
    pre-fab sheds on & fix up to be the home I die in.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, April 02, 2020 18:39:57
    My co-worker & I were talking about this this afternoon. Both of us were shocked it had caught the spirit of the original so well. I woul
    Indeed, that is very rare. I find more remakes vary between crap and OKish.

    I agree...especially that many of these are trading on the name to drive traffic. From what I've seen...it almost seems like the producers may have a "book" that all writers to adhere to for continuity...just like from Star
    Trek TOS. To say I was impressed by how well the series was written & that certain feeling like from the original was astounding. The last episode had
    my attention wondering what was following the head writer the whole episode. When you find out what happened...was anti-climaxiable...but it left me with awe that it turned out like that. Even many 1st run series don't have this "magic".

    Hmm, the phone's FM radio is often not that useful to me, because it requires wired headphones, and these days, I use all Bluetooth, which doesn't exactly provide a good antenna for the FM. ;) As for camping, Strongly discouraged here now, and if you don't get arrested or fined
    for doing it, you probably would soon. :)

    Remembering being caught in a blizzard with no power. Kept warm...while the
    FM radio allowed something for entertainment. Usually keep a small AM/FM
    radio in my camping gear. Nothing like sitting around the campfire listening
    to classic rock or whatever you like.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to all on Friday, April 03, 2020 17:20:31
    Right now looking for 40 to 60 acres of land to build on in the very
    north of the upper UP of Michigan.

    That is such beautiful country, and the people I met there the one trip I
    took were really nice.


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