• testing qwk..

    From Ogg@21:5/101 to All on Thursday, March 19, 2020 23:02:00
    Hi All,

    Testing a qwk message. This time I am specifically setting the aka to match The File Bank's address.

    ..Regards,
    Ogg

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Ogg on Friday, March 20, 2020 15:25:00
    On 03-19-20 23:02, Ogg wrote to All <=-

    Hi All,

    Testing a qwk message. This time I am specifically setting the aka to match The File Bank's address.

    ..Regards,
    Ogg

    * SeM. 2.26 * SYSTEM ERROR: press F13 to continue...
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    Where are you "setting the AKA"? In any case, the correct (FSXnet) AKA is showing in your Origin lines (regardless of what you're setting on your end), which is what should happen.

    I notice you're using SEMPoint, which is quite a good system. I have played with it a bit, though still using Multimail for the bulk of my messaging.


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  • From Ogg@21:5/101 to Vk3jed on Friday, March 20, 2020 19:28:00
    Hi Vk3Jed,
    On <Sat, 20 Mar 20>, you wrote me:

    * SeM. 2.26 * SYSTEM ERROR: press F13 to continue...
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    (21:5/101)

    Where are you "setting the AKA"? In any case, the correct (FSXnet)
    AKA is showing in your Origin lines (regardless of what you're setting
    on your end), which is what should happen.

    Sempoint can operate in two modes: Fido-point (originally via modem only), or QWK. The config permits establishing AKA' addresses and usernames. I just found out that the config only pertains to the point operations, and QWK is totally independent of that.

    I just wondered if my ignoring the config and AKA settings was preventing some of my posts from showing up. For example, a few posts I made at Danger Bay in the last few days never appeared elsewhere on this network when I was reading this echo with the QWKs from another BBS.


    I notice you're using SEMPoint, which is quite a good system. I have played with it a bit, though still using Multimail for the bulk of my messaging.

    I tried Multimail, but I just can't get used to juggling multiple qwk files when looking for a message. Sempoint imports qwk files into a database: Squish, JAM or MSG. As a result, searching for a message is so much easier.

    Sadly, Sempoint is a 16-bit program, so it has been bypassed by many. But it is quite fine on my XP laptop.

    However, this recent project:

    "WineVDM - a way to run 16-bit apps on 64-bit Windows"

    https://forum.winworldpc.com/discussion/11014/winevdm-a-way-to-run-16-bit- apps-on-64-bit-windows

    https://tinyurl.com/wrnq6vd

    ..may give SemPoint some extra life when I migrate most of my computer use on a new Win64 laptop.


    ..Regards,
    Ogg

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Ogg on Saturday, March 21, 2020 14:12:00
    On 03-20-20 19:28, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Sempoint can operate in two modes: Fido-point (originally via modem
    only), or QWK. The config permits establishing AKA' addresses and usernames. I just found out that the config only pertains to the point operations, and QWK is totally independent of that.

    I've only used it with QWK packets from one BBS, and it works well.

    I just wondered if my ignoring the config and AKA settings was
    preventing some of my posts from showing up. For example, a few posts
    I made at Danger Bay in the last few days never appeared elsewhere on
    this network when I was reading this echo with the QWKs from another
    BBS.

    Looks like more testing needed.

    I notice you're using SEMPoint, which is quite a good system. I have played with it a bit, though still using Multimail for the bulk of my messaging.

    I tried Multimail, but I just can't get used to juggling multiple qwk files when looking for a message. Sempoint imports qwk files into a database: Squish, JAM or MSG. As a result, searching for a message
    is so much easier.

    My setup is using a Squish messagebase. I haven't found where to change the messagebase format, but nothing wrong with Squish, so I haven't really bothered looking.

    Sadly, Sempoint is a 16-bit program, so it has been bypassed by many.
    But it is quite fine on my XP laptop.

    However, this recent project:

    "WineVDM - a way to run 16-bit apps on 64-bit Windows"

    I am running SemPoint under WineVDM. It works extremely well. Highly recommended if you want to run it under 64 bit Windows. WineVDM makes 16 bit apps seamless on 64 bit Windows. You just double click the app, like you would with a 32 or 64 bit .EXE. I can't fault WineVDM for 16 bit Windows apps. Note that it only runs Windows apps and not DOS apps. If you're running 64 bit Windows and want to try SemPoint or any other 16 bit Windows app, give WineVDM a try. I'm very impressed with both pieces of software.

    https://forum.winworldpc.com/discussion/11014/winevdm-a-way-to-run-16-bi t-
    apps-on-64-bit-windows

    https://tinyurl.com/wrnq6vd

    ..may give SemPoint some extra life when I migrate most of my
    computer use on a new Win64 laptop.

    You'll have no dramas, as I said, I'm running SemPoint on 64 bit with WineVDM. I don't use it as my main offline reader, but I do use it when I want to go back through old threads.


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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 21, 2020 01:32:00
    Hello Vk3jed!

    ** 21.03.20 - 14:12, Vk3jed wrote to Ogg:

    I tried Multimail, but I just can't get used to juggling multiple
    qwk files when looking for a message. Sempoint imports qwk files
    into a database: Squish, JAM or MSG. As a result, searching for a
    message is so much easier.

    My setup is using a Squish messagebase. I haven't found where to
    change the messagebase format, but nothing wrong with Squish, so I
    haven't really bothered looking.

    You are right. The setting to change the message base type is greyed out
    for QWK imports. The default is Squish format. Changing that does not
    seem to be possible.

    When I first started using Sempoint (back around 2000) it was a point-
    system. That way Sempoint allows configuring the bases to any of the
    other formats. I had settled with Jam so that I could use some other echomail stats/analysis progs that were designed for Jam.

    Today, Sempoint makes a fine QWK mail reader with the advantages of being
    a message database.


    I am running SemPoint under WineVDM. It works extremely well. Highly
    recommended if you want to run it under 64 bit Windows.

    I will certainly give it a go on my Win7-64 pc later on.


    You'll have no dramas, as I said, I'm running SemPoint on 64 bit with
    WineVDM. I don't use it as my main offline reader, but I do use it when I
    want to go back through old threads.

    So, how do you combine Multimail and Sempoint? Do you toss the QWK
    packets twice - once for Multimail and once again to your Sempoint setup? But if you write your replies with Multimail, they will be missing in the Sempoint system.





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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Ogg on Saturday, March 21, 2020 16:56:00
    On 03-21-20 01:32, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You are right. The setting to change the message base type is greyed
    out for QWK imports. The default is Squish format. Changing that
    does not seem to be possible.

    Apparently not. And besides, nothing wrong with Squish. :)

    When I first started using Sempoint (back around 2000) it was a point- system. That way Sempoint allows configuring the bases to any of the other formats. I had settled with Jam so that I could use some other echomail stats/analysis progs that were designed for Jam.

    I'd have thought there's be similar for Squish, as that was a popular messagebase format back in the day too.

    Today, Sempoint makes a fine QWK mail reader with the advantages of
    being a message database.

    Yes, it's a useful local archive store. I do find it easier to navigate than online BBS interfaces.

    I am running SemPoint under WineVDM. It works extremely well. Highly
    recommended if you want to run it under 64 bit Windows.

    I will certainly give it a go on my Win7-64 pc later on.

    You won't be disappointed. :)

    You'll have no dramas, as I said, I'm running SemPoint on 64 bit with
    WineVDM. I don't use it as my main offline reader, but I do use it when I
    want to go back through old threads.

    So, how do you combine Multimail and Sempoint? Do you toss the QWK packets twice - once for Multimail and once again to your Sempoint
    setup? But if you write your replies with Multimail, they will be
    missing in the Sempoint system.

    I have 2 methods. When I'm in sync, I do toss the packets twice - once for Sempoint and once for reading in Multimail.

    But occasionally, I forget to import a packet into SemPoint. In that instance, I don't bother, until sometime later, when I download a packet for Multimail, quickly change last read pointers back to the last updated date of SemPoint's messagebase then do a catch up download, which I import into SemPoint, then delete. :)

    And yes, it looks like SemPoint has an issue with short names in general, see my recent barrage of test messages.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 21, 2020 09:13:00
    Vk3jed wrote to Ogg <=-

    On 03-20-20 19:28, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Sempoint can operate in two modes: Fido-point (originally via modem
    only), or QWK. The config permits establishing AKA' addresses and usernames. I just found out that the config only pertains to the point operations, and QWK is totally independent of that.

    I've only used it with QWK packets from one BBS, and it works well.

    I've never seen Sempoint in a list of QWK readers. Does it combine QWK
    packets into a single database, or do you need to read them separately?

    I'd always wanted a way to combine QWK packets in an offline reader to facilitate searches.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, March 22, 2020 12:17:00
    On 03-21-20 09:13, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I've never seen Sempoint in a list of QWK readers. Does it combine QWK packets into a single database, or do you need to read them separately?

    Yes, it reads QWK, Bluewave and at least one other format packets and puts the messages into a Squish messagebase.

    I'd always wanted a way to combine QWK packets in an offline reader to facilitate searches.

    SemPoint is worth a try. Note that it is an old 16 bit Windows app, so you'll need to use either a 32 bit version of Windows or run WineVDM on your 64 bit Windows (and presumably it runs under Wine on Linux, since WineVDM is based on Wine).


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  • From August Abolins@21:2/138 to Poindexter Fortran on Saturday, March 21, 2020 22:42:00
    Hi Poindexter,
    In a message to Vk3jed you wrote:

    I've only used it with QWK packets from one BBS, and it works
    well.

    I've never seen Sempoint in a list of QWK readers. Does it combine
    QWK packets into a single database, or do you need to read them separately?

    It unpacks the QWK files to a Squish messagebase. You never need to refer to the original QWK ever again.


    I'd always wanted a way to combine QWK packets in an offline reader
    to facilitate searches.

    Then Sempoint is worth a look! Heads-up.. it is a 16-bit Windows program, but it looks more modern than you would expect from a 16-bit Windows program.

    Meanwhile, I created a little 2min video on what it looks like:

    http://kolico.ca/fidonet/files/sempoint-preview.zip

    I go over the menu and reveal some options and settings. You will see a
    lot of familiar BBS terms and features that this point program can
    implement.

    (It is my very first screen recording, ever, on my XP laptop, and with an unfamiliar program, so forgive me if it isn't elegant. The recording has a minor video artifact, but it does not obscure anything important.)

    -=} SemPoint v2.26 for Windows {=-
    SemPoint is the 1st Offline Reader for
    Windows useful to both BBS Users and to
    FidoNet Points (or Sysops). It can
    handle QWK, BlueWave, Mc-Link's X)press
    and Usenet newsgroups mail packets, as
    well as permanent message bases in *.MSG
    (Fido), Hudson, Squish, JAM end EzyCom
    formats! EASY to use, but powerful!
    Built-in zip/unzip, UUEncode/Decode,
    PGP shell, Rich Text display feature,
    message sorting, TIC generator.

    Just do a search for "sempoint" here: http://archives.thebbs.org/



    The only other multi-QWK reader that I know about is:

    DURANGOMAIL ver1.4 Build 204 - Updated 9/9/98
    ---------------------------------------------
    QWKE Offline mail reader for Win 95/98/NT/2K
    * Multiple-Document Interface for reading
    several packets at once
    * Automatic quote highlighting
    * Two levels of configurable message sorting
    * Filing cabinet for quick storage/retrieval
    of messages
    * Fast and flexible message searching
    * Advanced message filtering options
    * Personal message alerts using a wave file
    * Offline-configuration for adding and
    dropping message areas
    * Area and message capacity is limited only
    by available system memory
    * Spell-checker & thesaurus

    ..but it refused to run on my XP pc.


    ..Regards,
    August

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Vk3jed on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 22:29:00
    Hello Vk3jed!

    ** 21.03.20 - 16:56, Vk3jed wrote to Ogg:

    When I first started using Sempoint (back around 2000) it was a point-
    system. That way Sempoint allows configuring the bases to any of the
    other formats. I had settled with Jam so that I could use some other
    echomail stats/analysis progs that were designed for Jam.

    I'd have thought there's be similar for Squish, as that was a popular
    messagebase format back in the day too.

    I had settled with Jam because I liked the way the specific Jam-utility produced the echomail reports. Then, eventually, I actually switched to Fleetstreet/2 (for OS/2). It was practically the equivalent to Sempoint,
    but for OS/2. It was a really beautiful performer. Too bad there is no repository of screenshots of many of these older programs.


    Today, Sempoint makes a fine QWK mail reader with the advantages of
    being a message database.

    Yes, it's a useful local archive store. I do find it easier to navigate
    than online BBS interfaces.

    The archive at https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/msgs/ is handy in a pinch, (they have a decent SEARCH box at each echo level). But they don't have FSXnet echos.



    ../|ug

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Ogg on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 09:51:02
    On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 22:29:00 -0400
    "Ogg -> Vk3jed" <21@106.4.21> wrote:

    I had settled with Jam because I liked the way the specific
    Jam-utility produced the echomail reports. Then, eventually, I
    actually switched to Fleetstreet/2 (for OS/2). It was practically
    the equivalent to Sempoint, but for OS/2. It was a really beautiful performer. Too bad there is no repository of screenshots of many of
    these older programs.

    Fleetstreet is Open Source and it still has a website:

    http://fleetstreet.mhohner.de/

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Ogg on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 21:05:00
    On 03-24-20 22:29, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I had settled with Jam because I liked the way the specific Jam-utility produced the echomail reports. Then, eventually, I actually switched

    Fair enough. :)

    to Fleetstreet/2 (for OS/2). It was practically the equivalent to Sempoint, but for OS/2. It was a really beautiful performer. Too bad there is no repository of screenshots of many of these older programs.

    Sounds rather nice. Another reason to get an OS/2 type system up. ;)
    The archive at https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/msgs/ is handy in
    a pinch, (they have a decent SEARCH box at each echo level). But they don't have FSXnet echos.

    Ok, I haven't really poked around here. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Oli on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:17:03
    performer. Too bad there is no repository of screenshots of many of these older programs.
    Fleetstreet is Open Source and it still has a website: http://fleetstreet.mhohner.de/

    Thank you for putting this up! Tried to Google the program & all I could find was financial companies & the like.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Oli on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:25:48
    I had settled with Jam because I liked the way the specific Jam-utility produced the echomail reports. Then, eventually, I actually switched to Fleetstreet/2 (for OS/2). It was practically
    the equivalent to Sempoint, but for OS/2. It was a really beautiful

    Am looking at setting up a Telegard/2 system to eventually run the board on. Have ArcaOS 5.0.4. Telegard 3.09 for OS/2 updated as far as it goes. Looked
    at FastEcho because both Telegard & it run JAM bases. Plus on the FastEcho website...it says you can get a free license by asking for it. To use as a mailer...got FrontDoor 2.02 or 2.26 for OS/2. Will add into the mix Fleetstreet/2 since you listed the website for it. If I could setup
    BinkP/D...I would rather do that...but have heard the current upgrade for
    OS/2 is being delayed out of Russia.

    Any suggestions on either open source/freesource software for OS/2 to run on it?

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 14:39:28
    Am looking at setting up a Telegard/2 system to eventually run the board on. Have ArcaOS 5.0.4. Telegard 3.09 for OS/2 updated as far as it goes. Looked at FastEcho because both Telegard & it run JAM bases. Plus on the FastEcho website...it says you can get a free license by asking for it.

    I think FE would work well for you on OS/2. I ran FE on OS/2 with my RA board many years ago.

    I ran Telegard also back in the dial-up days with Squish and BinkleyTerm. It worked perfectly.

    To use as a mailer...got FrontDoor 2.02 or 2.26 for OS/2. Will add into the mix Fleetstreet/2 since you listed the website for it. If I could setup BinkP/D...I would rather do that...but have heard the current upgrade for OS/2 is being delayed out of Russia.

    The OS/2 version of binkd works well. There was a recent patch that hasn't made
    it to the OS/2 side yet for some reason but I'm sure it will get there before long.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 15:40:44
    at FastEcho because both Telegard & it run JAM bases. Plus on the FastEc website...it says you can get a free license by asking for it.
    I think FE would work well for you on OS/2. I ran FE on OS/2 with my RA board many years ago.

    Added in FE2TG & as soon as I do some more research...will get it set up properly. On all of this...am taking my time.

    I ran Telegard also back in the dial-up days with Squish and
    BinkleyTerm. It worked perfectly.

    Did so as well. Couldn't find many who ran Binkley back in the day...so we
    all ran FD 2.02. Worked well...but have none of my config files to use. Was considering running Renegade...but when it runs its own format & TG runs
    either Squish or JAM...just wanted to go with what was standard. Bink works perfectly with Mystic with JAM bases.

    The OS/2 version of binkd works well. There was a recent patch that
    hasn't made it to the OS/2 side yet for some reason but I'm sure it will get there before long.

    That's what I've heard. Are there any scripts/how-to's to set it up?

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 16:18:32
    The OS/2 version of binkd works well. There was a recent patch that
    hasn't made it to the OS/2 side yet for some reason but I'm sure it will
    get there before long.

    That's what I've heard. Are there any scripts/how-to's to set it up?

    I'm sure there are but I don't have any URLs off hand.

    If you like I could post a binkd.conf that I use with binkd and HPT. I think the outbound directory structure would work just as well with FE.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 17:21:10
    That's what I've heard. Are there any scripts/how-to's to set it up?
    I'm sure there are but I don't have any URLs off hand.
    If you like I could post a binkd.conf that I use with binkd and HPT. I think the outbound directory structure would work just as well with FE.

    That would be great & appreciated. Am currently working on the binkd.cfg on
    my windows box. This way...I can compare what I do with yours.

    Thank you!!!!

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  • From Al@21:1/100 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 18:05:12
    That would be great & appreciated. Am currently working on the binkd.cfg on my windows box. This way...I can compare what I do with yours.

    I'll import it below with a few example node lines. Watch out for long lines.. they'll wrap..

    If you have questions just ask..


    # Binkd sample configuration file
    # Copyright (C) 1996-1997 by Dima Maloff, 2:5047/13
    # $Id: binkd.conf,v 1.3 2012/01/22 13:54:12 green Exp $

    #
    # Path and name for the logfile, loglevel
    #
    log /usr/local/fido/log/binkd.log
    loglevel 4

    #
    # Your FTN domains:
    # domain <name> <main-outbound> <default-zone> [<root-domain>]
    # or
    # domain <new-name> alias-for <name>
    # First specified domain sets as default domain for the 3D/4D addresses.
    #
    domain fidonet /usr/local/fido/outbound 1 domain fsxnet /usr/local/fido/outbound 1
    #
    # Aliases to support known wrong 5D configurations
    domain fido alias-for fidonet
    domain fidorus alias-for fidonet
    domain fido7 alias-for fidonet
    #
    # Aliases to support known DNS domain zones
    # (some people is mix up the terms "FTN domain" and "DNS internet domain") domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet domain fidonet.net alias-for fidonet


    #
    # Your addresses, 5D or 4D or 3D:
    # address <addr1> ...
    # If first address specified as 3D/4D then domain for it sets from domain
    # defined in the first "domain" token. If second and more addresses specified
    # as 3D/4D then domain sets from first address.
    #
    address 1:153/757@fidonet
    address 1:153/0@fidonet
    address 21:4/106@fsxnet

    #
    # Hide or present the specified AKAs if remote AKAs match the address mask
    # hide-aka <my-aka> [!]<mask>
    # present-aka <add-aka> [!]<mask>
    # Mask is compared to the 5d-form of address string, `*' matches any number
    # of any symbols (so you have to write '2:5020/*' but not '5020/*')
    # Use `!' to invert the mask
    # These rules apply in the same order as in config, you can present any address #
    #hide-aka 2:5020/999.* !2:*@fidonet # hide aka from all but fido zone 2 #hide-aka 21:4/106 !21:*@fsxnet
    #present-aka 2:5047/999.1 2:5047/*.0* # present aka to all nodes in 2:5047

    #
    # The name of your system, its location and your name
    #
    sysname "The Rusty MailBox"
    location "Penticton, BC Canada"
    sysop "Alan Ianson"

    #
    # System capabilities
    #
    nodeinfo 115200,CM,XX,IBN

    #
    # Uncomment it if you want binkd's log at your console
    #
    conlog 4

    #
    # If a log message matches one of these masks it won't be written to log
    # (masks are in shell/glob style, case-insensitive)
    #
    nolog "*socket # [0-9]*"
    nolog "*.[bc]sy"

    #
    # Uncomment if you want T-Mail(FrontDoor)-style binary log
    # (Will work and have sense on PCs only?)
    #
    #binlog binkd.sts
    #fdinhist in.his
    #fdouthist out.his

    #
    # TCP settings. Leave this unchanged if not sure.
    #
    # Suffixes for time intervals are w for weeks, d for days,
    # h for hours, m for minutes, s or no suffix for seconds.
    # You can mix the suffixes, i.e. 1d12h is the same as 36h.
    #
    #iport binkp
    #oport binkp
    #oblksize 4096
    #timeout 30s
    #connect-timeout 30s
    #bindaddr 192.168.0.3

    #
    # Zlib compression parameters (if built with zlib support)
    # zlevel - compression level (zlib only, bzlib2 uses 100kb always) ,
    # set to 0 to use default value of 6
    # zminsize <size> - files smaller than <size> won't be compressed anyway
    # Rules:
    # zallow <mask1>[ <mask2>... <maskN>] - allow compression for the masks
    # zdeny <mask1>[ <mask2>... <maskN>] - deny compression for the masks
    # If remote accepts compressed blocks (OPT GZ) its name will be checked
    # against these rules before sending each file. If the name matches a zallow
    # rule the file will be sent with compression. If the name matches a zdeny rule # it will be sent as-is. The rule matched first is applied. If a file doesn't
    # match any rule zdeny is assumed.
    #
    zminsize 1024
    #
    zallow *.pkt *.PKT
    zdeny *.su? *.mo? *.tu? *.we? *.th? *.fr? *.sa? zdeny *.zip *.rar *.arj *.ha *.gz *.tgz *.bz2 *.z[0-9][0-9] *.r[0-9][0-9] zallow *

    #
    # Compression dll names, for win32 versions built with ZLIBDL
    #
    #zlib-dll zlib.dll
    #bzlib2-dll bzlib2.dll

    #
    # HTTPS or SOCKS settings.
    #
    # proxy 192.168.0.3:3128 # <- regular http/https proxy (i.e. squid)
    # proxy 192.168.0.3:3128/user/password # <- proxy required username/password
    # # (as in browser)
    #
    # proxy 192.168.0.3:3128/user/password/your_host/your_domain
    # ^- proxy required NTLM authorization with username/password
    # your_host -- Windows host name without domain (i.e. MY_HOST)
    # your_domain -- Windows domain name (not FQDN, i.e. DEFAULT_DOMAIN)
    #
    # socks 192.168.0.3:1080 # <- socks4 proxy
    # socks 192.168.0.3:1080/ # <- socks5 proxy without authorization
    # socks 192.168.0.3:1080/user/password # <- socks5 proxy with username/passwor d
    # # (RFC-1929)

    #
    # Delay of calls and outbound rescans in seconds
    #
    call-delay 30s
    rescan-delay 30s

    #
    # Max. number of inbound/outbound connections
    #
    #maxservers 2
    #maxclients 2

    #
    # Binkd will try to call a node N times. If failed it will
    # hold the node for S seconds. The feature is off by default.
    #
    try 2
    hold 3h

    #
    # hold-skipped <S>
    # Binkd will hold for S seconds all mail skipped by a node. (Def. -- 1h)
    #
    #hold-skipped 1h

    #
    # Don't send (only receive) files if no password for an inbound session
    #
    #send-if-pwd

    # Tzoff corrects UTC time returned by time() under DOS-derived OS
    # Using system TZ variable or tzselect(8) is preferred.
    #tzoff 3h

    #
    # Use syslog (Only if made with -DHAVE_VSYSLOG and -DHAVE_FACILITYNAMES)
    #
    #syslog local0

    #
    # Print percents while sending or receiving
    #
    percents

    #
    # List queue after rescans
    #
    printq

    #
    # Perform reverse resolving (for logging only)
    #
    backresolv

    #
    # Log pid:
    #
    pid-file /usr/local/fido/binkd.pid

    #
    # Map paths in flo's:
    # ftrans <old-string> <new-string>
    # Use as many ftrans's as you want.
    #
    #ftrans "D:\\fido\\outbound" "/var/spool/fido/outb"
    #ftrans "\\" "/" # this replaces all slashes in a path

    #
    # Inbound directories for secure and non-secure links
    #
    inbound /usr/local/fido/inbound
    inbound-nonsecure /usr/local/fido/inbound/insecure

    #
    # Directory for incomplete receiving files (.hr and .dt),
    # default to inbound for the node
    #
    temp-inbound /usr/local/fido/inbound/tmp

    #
    # Binkd will skip all files from a node if
    # size_of_the_next_file_for_us_there + minfree < free_space_in_inbound
    # The zero value and the value 4294967295 (2**32-1) is equivalented to infinity .
    #
    minfree 2048
    minfree-nonsecure 2048

    #
    # When trying to receive a new file: remove partial files with this
    # name but different size or time from inbound. (If commented out, binkd
    # will left old parts as .dt and .hr in the inbound directory)
    #
    kill-dup-partial-files

    #
    # Remove all old partial files from inbound. (OFF if commented out)
    # kill-old-partial-files <max-age-in-seconds>
    #
    kill-old-partial-files 1d

    #
    # Remove old .bsy/.csy files (If some are left after a system crash). It would # be wise to set this to 12h on almost any system. (Note that binkd always
    # touches .bsy's/.csy's for active sessions)
    #
    # kill-old-bsy is OFF by default.
    #
    kill-old-bsy 12h

    #
    # Create a flag file after receiving a file
    #
    #flag /sbbs/data/fidoin.now *.pkt *.PKT
    #flag /sbbs/data/fidoin.now *.su? *.SU? *.mo? *.MO? *.tu? *.TU? *.we? *.WE? *.t h?
    *.TH? *.fr? *.FR? *.sa? *.SA?
    #flag /sbbs/data/tickit.now *.tic *.TIC

    #
    # Run an external program.
    # The "*S" macro in command line substed with S.R.I.F., see !SRIF.TXT
    # The "!" before program pathname means immediate program execution
    # after receiving the file.
    # *** win32 only:
    # The "@" before program pathname means execute program in separate console
    # The "@@" before program pathname means execute program in hidden console
    # ***
    # Macros: *F - complete name of received file,
    # *A0..*A9 - first 10 AKA of remote system,
    # *A*, *A@ - list of all remote AKA separated by spaces
    # *P - password protected [0|1],
    # *L - listed system [0|1]
    # *H - remote hostname or IP,
    # *N - short file name (win32 only).
    #
    exec "/usr/local/bin/hpt-incoming.sh" *.[pP][kK][tT] *.[STFWMstfwm][ouaherOUAHE
    R]
    [0-9A-Za-z] *.[tT][iI][cC]
    exec "mfreq-srif -s *S" *.req
    #exec "my-pkt-unpacker /options *S" *.pkt
    #exec "my-tosser /options" c:\\bbs\\inbound\\????????.[mwtfs][oehrau][0-9a-zA- Z]

    #exec "nice -n 19 hpt toss link" /var/spool/ftn/inbound/*.[STFWMstfwm][ouaherOU AH
    ER][0-9A-Za-z] *.[pP][kK][tT]

    #
    # Include a file
    #
    #include /etc/ftn/binkd.inc

    #
    # Overrides root domain for DNS lookups, see `node' below.
    #
    root-domain binkp.net

    #
    # Scan T-Mail boxes (short and long)
    #
    #filebox d:\\fido\\tmail\\boxes

    #
    # Scan theBrake! long boxes
    #
    #brakebox d:\\fido\\brake\\boxes
    #brakebox /var/spool/ftn/longbox

    #
    # Should binkd delete empty boxes?
    # Uncomment the following line, if yes
    #
    #deletebox

    #
    # Scan node outbound while connecting and send mail size to remote
    #
    prescan

    # t-mail or ifcico (qico) password file.
    # Format of the password file:
    # [password] <FTN address> <inpwd>[,[<pktpwd>][,<outpwd>]]
    # where:
    # [password] optional "password" token;
    # <FTN address> address of a link in the form 1:2/3.4@domain
    # or 1:2/3@domain or 1:2/3 or 1:2/3.4;
    # <inpwd> password for incoming sessions;
    # <pktpwd> packet password, used when "share" token
    # is handled;
    # <outpwd> password for outgoing sessions.
    # Any password is one word without spaces or tabs. If <pktpwd> or <outpwd>
    # is omitted, it is assumed equal to <inpwd>. If a password is defined for
    # a node by the "node" token then the passwords for the node in the password
    # file are ignored.
    #
    #passwords /etc/ftn/passwords

    #
    # Skip files:
    # skip [all|listed|unlisted|secure|unsecure] [!]<sizeKb>|- <mask>...
    #
    # 'all' applies to all sessions (default)
    # 'listed' applies to sessions with the nodes defined by 'node' keyword
    # 'secure' applies to password-protected sessions
    #
    # Use '!' before size for destructive skip, default is non-destructive one.
    # If <size> > 0 then only files larger than <size> in kilobytes are skipped,
    # zero <size> applies to all files,
    # if <size> is set to '-' then the rule allows any file by <mask>'s
    #
    # <mask> is a shell-style mask, case-insensitive (except for symbols in [])
    # multiple masks for a rule are permitted
    #
    # Policy for rule processing is first-match
    #
    #skip all 0 *.mp3 *.avi
    #skip unsecure 256 *.pkt
    #skip unsecure !0 *

    #
    # Overwrite the existing file by the new received,
    # do not save with the changed extension
    #
    #overwrite net_*.*

    #
    # Inbound filename case:
    # inboundcase [save(default)|upper|lower|mixed]
    #
    # 'save' don't change filename case (default)
    # 'upper' uppercase filename (FILE-NAME.EXT)
    # 'lower' lowercase filename (file-name.ext)
    # 'mixed' make filename pretty (File-Name.Ext)
    #
    # * tested only with english filenames
    #
    #inboundcase save

    #
    # Should binkd send empty files?
    # dont-send-empty [no(default)|arcmail|yes]
    #
    # 'no' inhibit only sending *.?ut (netmail) with size <=60 bytes
    # 'arcmail' do not send zero-size arcmail and pkt <= 60 bytes
    # 'yes' do not send all zero-size files and pkt <= 60 bytes
    #
    dont-send-empty yes

    #
    # Should binkd delete empty point dirs in BSO?
    # Uncomment the following line, if yes
    #
    #deletedirs

    #
    # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
    #
    #aso

    #
    # Limit bandwidth (rate):
    # limit-rate [all|listed|unlisted|secure|unsecure] <rate>[kM%]|- <mask>...
    #
    # <rate> is a max allowed rate in bytes-per-second (k=kbytes, M=Mbytes),
    # if % is specified, the node -bw rate is multiplied by this value
    # in percents, if - then rate is unlimited
    # <mask> is a filename mask to apply this rule to
    #
    # limit-rate rules are checked in the order they appear in config, first
    # matcing rule is applied
    #
    # IMPORTANT! If a node has no explicitly defined bandwidth limit, the
    # defnode's limit is used. If defnode has no limit, rate is unlimited.
    #
    #limit-rate unsecure - *.pkt
    #limit-rate unsecure 2k *

    # Define shared aka
    # Add a shared-address as aka for any node from this list, so that
    # uncompessed netmail for shared aka will be sent in the first session with # any node listed in shares; packet header will be updated to match this
    # node's main aka and pkt password
    # share <shared-address> <node1> [<node2> ...]
    # example:
    #share 2:999/999 2:5020/52 2:5020/238

    #
    # Check the sender's address in incoming pkt's, change the file extension
    # to <ext>, if the check failed
    # check-pkthdr [all|secure|unsecure|listed|unlisted] <ext>
    #
    # 'all' applies to all nodes
    # 'listed' applies, if at least one aka is defined by 'node' keyword
    # 'secure' applies, if at least one aka is password-protected
    #
    # It's ok to specify .<ext> as well as <ext> - the dot before ext is ignored
    # Flag order: -nohc (for any aka), -hc (for any aka), check-pkthdr flag
    #
    #check-pkthdr secure .sec

    #
    # Define a link:
    # node [[z:]n/]n[.p][@domain] [-nr|-nd] [-md] [-hc|-nohc] [-ip|-sip] [-bw
    <
    send_rate>[/<recv_rate>]] [-4|-6] [{hosts|-} [{<inpwd>[,[<pktpwd>][,<outpwd>]]| -}
    [flavour [{obox|-} [{ibox|-}]]]]]
    #
    # * All non-"-" fields will redefine the values specified for the same node
    # earlier in config.
    # * The meaning of <inpwd>, <pktpwd> and <outpwd> is the same as in
    # the description of the "passwords" token. Any password is one word
    # without spaces or tabs. If <pktpwd> or <outpwd> is omitted, it is
    # assumed equal to <inpwd>.
    # * Flavour is one of i, c, d, -, h; and is the flavour for the outbound
    # filebox ("obox").
    # * Binkd sends from obox all non-dir entries NOT matching ".*" wildcard.
    # EVERY TIME YOU PUT A FILE INTO OBOX CHECK IF BINKD WILL BE ABLE TO
    # UNLINK IT. Otherwise, the session will never end.
    # * Default for ibox is inbound or inbound-nosecure depending on the pwd field. # * Default for port is oport.
    # * `-nr' stands for `Not Reliable Link', this works only on outbound calls
    # with another binkp/1.1 mailer. The option solves the only problem with
    # binkd having no enough time to start receiving of a file from
    # non-zero offset before IP link's down, so don't use it unless you
    # have this problem -- really not effective
    # * `-nd' means "No Dupe Mode", this works only on outbound calls with
    # another binkd 0.9.3 or higher. The option solves problem with
    # duplicating files while losts carrier but link is a bit slower
    # then with "-nr" option
    # * `-md' means "Must have CRAM-MD5". This works only with nodes with
    # binkd or argus supported this method. Do not set it if your link
    # can use the old version of binkd.
    # * `-nomd' - do not use CRAM-MD5 for this node (send plain text password)
    # * `-hc' enables check of sender address in pkt header for this node/aka
    # (overrides the setting of the 'check-pkthdr' statement)
    # * `-nohc' disables check of sender address in pkt header for this node/aka
    # (overrides the setting of the 'check-pkthdr' statement)
    # * `-ip' means "Remote IP check". In this case the node will be
    # rejected, if it comes not from one of its IP-addresses.
    # Remote AKAs with bad IP-address will be dropped on outgoing calls.
    # * `-sip' means "Strict remote IP check". Like "-ip", but node will be
    # rejected, if no IP-addresses allowed ("-" or not resolved).
    # Remote AKAs with bad IP-address will be dropped on outgoing calls.
    # * `-bw' specifies bandwidth (rate) limit for this node
    # if one value is specified, it's used as both send and recv limit
    # if two values are specified, first is for send and second - for recv
    # rate values are expected to be in format `<rate>[kM%]|-'
    # (see limit-rate keyword for detailed description)
    # * `-noproxy' disables usage of proxy/socks server when calling this node
    # (node expected to be inside local network)
    # * `-4' only connect via IPv4
    # * `-6' only connect via IPv6
    # * Hosts is a list in form
    # host1[:pod
    SEEN-BY: 1/1 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 SEEN-BY: 1/117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 133 134 SEEN-BY: 1/135 136 137 138 139 140 141 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 152 153 SEEN-BY: 1/154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 171 SEEN-BY: 1/172 173 174 175 176 177 178 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 SEEN-BY: 1/190 191 192 193 194 195 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 SEEN-BY: 1/208 209 995 999 2/100 3/100 4/100 5/100
  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 20:11:49
    That would be great & appreciated. Am currently working on the binkd.cfg my windows box. This way...I can compare what I do with yours.
    I'll import it below with a few example node lines. Watch out for long lines.. they'll wrap..

    Will study it more when I have time side by side. At that time...will have
    some questions.

    Thank you again for all your help.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)
  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:10:56
    On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:25:48 -0700
    "Phoobar -> Oli" <0@147.2.21> wrote:

    I had settled with Jam because I liked the way the specific
    Jam-utility produced the echomail reports. Then,
    eventually, I actually switched to Fleetstreet/2 (for
    OS/2). It was practically the equivalent to Sempoint, but
    for OS/2. It was a really beautiful

    Am looking at setting up a Telegard/2 system to eventually run the
    board on. Have ArcaOS 5.0.4. Telegard 3.09 for OS/2 updated as far as
    it goes. Looked at FastEcho because both Telegard & it run JAM bases.
    Plus on the FastEcho website...it says you can get a free license by
    asking for it. To use as a mailer...got FrontDoor 2.02 or 2.26 for
    OS/2. Will add into the mix Fleetstreet/2 since you listed the
    website for it. If I could setup BinkP/D...I would rather do
    that...but have heard the current upgrade for OS/2 is being delayed
    out of Russia.

    Any suggestions on either open source/freesource software for OS/2 to
    run on it?

    I ran Maximus, Squish, BinkleyTerm, Fleetstreet and Golded, timed and/or Msged.
    They are all open source nowadays.

    Just try BinkD for OS/2 (1.1a99). Most likely it will work without any problems. The bug that was fixed only affects a few systems (something with low
    resources). I'm not sure if the bug affects OS/2 at all. The bigger problem was that the sources didn't compile anymore (1.1a101) on OS/2, so there is another fix for fixing the fix, but it's still an open pull request on github.

    ---
    * Origin: (21:1/151)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 26, 2020 21:18:00
    On 03-25-20 15:40, Phoobar wrote to Al <=-

    Did so as well. Couldn't find many who ran Binkley back in the day...so

    I ran Binkley (DOS) back then, worked very well, and seemed light on resources - it ran well even on an XT. While I ran OS/2 for a long time, the BBS sostware stack was still DOS based.


    ... It's important that I NOT know.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Al on Thursday, March 26, 2020 21:20:00
    On 03-25-20 16:18, Al wrote to Phoobar <=-

    If you like I could post a binkd.conf that I use with binkd and HPT. I think the outbound directory structure would work just as well with FE.

    You just have to tell FE that it's using BinkleyTerm as the mailer, so it's using BSO.


    ... Alimony: Bounty on the Mutiny
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)
  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Oli on Thursday, March 26, 2020 08:28:57
    Just try BinkD for OS/2 (1.1a99). Most likely it will work without any problems. The bug that was fixed only affects a few systems (something with low resources). I'm not sure if the bug affects OS/2 at all. The bigger problem was that the sources didn't compile anymore (1.1a101) on OS/2, so there is another fix for fixing the fix, but it's still an open pull request on github.

    Gotta link for that version. Al sent me a copy of his binkd.conf last night & did some work on mine.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)
  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, March 26, 2020 08:40:31
    Did so as well. Couldn't find many who ran Binkley back in the day...
    I ran Binkley (DOS) back then, worked very well, and seemed light on resources - it ran well even on an XT. While I ran OS/2 for a long
    time, the BBS sostware stack was still DOS based.

    Great thing is there's still a lot of OS/2 software out there...with DOS/Windows versions available as well. Was looking at Renegade...until I was reading about its proprietary message format...compared to Telegard which has an OS/2 version & runs either Squish/JAM.

    Right now...waiting on a registration key for FastEcho for OS/2 from the author. Sent him an email last night.

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)
  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 26, 2020 16:44:00
    Hello Phoobar!

    ** 26.03.20 - 08:40, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed:

    Right now...waiting on a registration key for FastEcho for OS/2 from the
    author. Sent him an email last night.

    Good luck. I never got mine, and I requested one last year, in April.
    I hope he's doing OK.



    --- OpenXP 5.0.43
    * Origin: [} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Ogg on Friday, March 27, 2020 11:01:00
    Right now...waiting on a registration key for FastEcho for OS/2 from

    Good luck. I never got mine, and I requested one last year, in April.
    I hope he's doing OK.

    Odd, I got mine, for DOS admittedly in a matter of days. I'd try sending another email, make it nice though.

    Spec


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
    * Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)
  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Ogg on Thursday, March 26, 2020 21:15:38
    Right now...waiting on a registration key for FastEcho for OS/2 from th
    author. Sent him an email last night.
    Good luck. I never got mine, and I requested one last year, in April.

    WOW! Am surprised...especially when people today want to run their software.
    If this is the case...looks like I better start looking for another method to get it registered.

    BTW...got any other software which is usable with JAM message bases where we don't need to deal with the author not wanting you to register their software?

    ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 26, 2020 21:32:48
    Right now...waiting on a registration key for FastEcho for OS/2 from th
    author. Sent him an email last night.
    Good luck. I never got mine, and I requested one last year, in April.

    WOW! Am surprised...especially when people today want to run their software. If this is the case...looks like I better start looking for another method to get it registered.

    I think if you e-mail the registration to him you have a good chance of getting
    a reply with a registration code. He needs the info in the registration form to generate the key.

    That was the case a short while back anyway.

    BTW...got any other software which is usable with JAM message bases where we
    don't need to deal with the author not wanting you to register their software?

    FMail is another good choice for Jam bases although FMail doesn't support Jam netmail bases, only *.MSG.

    If Squish is an option for you the original squish from Lanius should work for you also on DOS/Win/OS2. I did build squish from source 15 years ago. I don't know if it will still build today. Squish supports Squish and *.MSG type bases,
    echomail, netmail or local bases.

    The husky software is also an option. It support Squish, Jam and *.MSG also for
    echomail, netmail or local bases. Husky is a job to get setup but it's military grade software. Squish is also good quality software, it just does echomail, netmail or local message bases but does it well.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Friday, March 27, 2020 17:24:00
    On 03-26-20 08:40, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Great thing is there's still a lot of OS/2 software out there...with DOS/Windows versions available as well. Was looking at Renegade...until
    I was reading about its proprietary message format...compared to
    Telegard which has an OS/2 version & runs either Squish/JAM.

    I would like to have something running under OS/2. My old DOS setup is one idea, but running something like Telegard does sound interesting. :)

    Right now...waiting on a registration key for FastEcho for OS/2 from
    the author. Sent him an email last night.

    Cool, nice. :) Do you have to pay, or not? Not that I'd be too worried either way. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Friday, March 27, 2020 11:44:46
    I think if you e-mail the registration to him you have a good chance of getting a reply with a registration code. He needs the info in the registration form to generate the key.

    Will do that this evening.

    If Squish is an option for you the original squish from Lanius should
    work for you also on DOS/Win/OS2. I did build squish from source 15

    Used to run it 30 years ago & worked very well...compared to what we were
    using before it. It was bullet proof back then & expect it to be so today.

    The husky software is also an option. It support Squish, Jam and *.MSG also for echomail, netmail or local bases. Husky is a job to get setup
    but it's military grade software. Squish is also good quality software,
    it just does echomail, netmail or local message bases but does it well.

    Seen you guys set it up. Will look at it tomorrow after work & see what it would take to set it up.

    Thanks for all the info! Got TG setup totally with VModem in a Virtualbox
    setup I was using originally. It was tedious...but once I got it done by RTFM...started up & ran like crazy. With SIO2k...setup 4 modems...once I did the same steps. Even have TG setup where I can use the new ANSI art Apam did for me. Forgot how configurable TG was.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Friday, March 27, 2020 11:59:07
    I would like to have something running under OS/2. My old DOS setup is one idea, but running something like Telegard does sound interesting. :)

    The DOS/OS/2 versions are included in your zip files. For either one...you
    copy the specific versions over & start throwing the rest where they need to be. Got it all setup last night under VirtualBox with SIO2K. Once that happened...came right up with Telegard/2...running under OS/2 Warp 4.

    Once into the config of the software...it's got some bells/whistles I wasn't expecting...like different line lengths from 24-50. Will be setting up the files with the ANSI's Apam sent me & just copy the folder over to my BBS box.

    The fossil with Vmodem was tricky...just install it & put the Vmodem driver
    in the line before SIO.DLL in the config.sys file.

    Cool, nice. :) Do you have to pay, or not? Not that I'd be too worried either way. :)

    The website said it was free. Sent him an email...but will redo it tonight
    with the registration form.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:05:00
    On 03-27-20 11:59, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I would like to have something running under OS/2. My old DOS setup is one idea, but running something like Telegard does sound interesting. :)

    The DOS/OS/2 versions are included in your zip files. For either
    one...you copy the specific versions over & start throwing the rest
    where they need to be. Got it all setup last night under VirtualBox
    with SIO2K. Once that happened...came right up with
    Telegard/2...running under OS/2 Warp 4.

    Cool, something to consider. I could run it up under VirtualBox for the time being, then move the BBS to its own machine when the opportunity arises.

    Once into the config of the software...it's got some bells/whistles I wasn't expecting...like different line lengths from 24-50. Will be
    setting up the files with the ANSI's Apam sent me & just copy the
    folder over to my BBS box.

    Cool. :)

    The fossil with Vmodem was tricky...just install it & put the Vmodem driver in the line before SIO.DLL in the config.sys file.

    Cool, nice. :) Do you have to pay, or not? Not that I'd be too worried either way. :)

    The website said it was free. Sent him an email...but will redo it
    tonight with the registration form.

    OK, might investigate. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 28, 2020 00:21:44
    with SIO2K. Once that happened...came right up with Telegard/2...running under OS/2 Warp 4.
    Cool, something to consider. I could run it up under VirtualBox for the time being, then move the BBS to its own machine when the opportunity arises.

    Something to consider is getting everything setup in VirtualBox & when you
    have it going the way you want...copy the whole shooting match from VB over
    to bare metal. You'd have to set up your fossil...but this way...you tweak it to death & move it over. Plus...when you do this...make a copy of it on CD-R/DVD/USB as a back up & just remember to do it about once a month or so.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 28, 2020 19:43:00
    On 03-28-20 00:21, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Something to consider is getting everything setup in VirtualBox & when
    you have it going the way you want...copy the whole shooting match from
    VB over to bare metal. You'd have to set up your fossil...but this way...you tweak it to death & move it over. Plus...when you do
    this...make a copy of it on CD-R/DVD/USB as a back up & just remember
    to do it about once a month or so.

    And how easy is it to move OS/2 between different types of hardware?


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Saturday, March 28, 2020 09:36:57
    this...make a copy of it on CD-R/DVD/USB as a back up & just remember to do it about once a month or so.
    And how easy is it to move OS/2 between different types of hardware?

    With ArcaOS...it's almost an after thought. On my Lenovo...sees everything & works out of the box. Just like in Windows...you do have to run upgrades for it...but even with Linux...you have to do that.

    The only thing I don't like about it & I think they are working on it is USB/HDD drives from Windows. ArcaOS requires an LVM on them. With DFSEE
    or Linux...very easily done without losing data. Have a 32 GB OS/2 USB drive I keep all my back ups on.

    Other than a couple of minor hiccups like the LVM...it installs just like Linux/Windows.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 29, 2020 14:54:00
    On 03-28-20 09:36, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    With ArcaOS...it's almost an after thought. On my Lenovo...sees
    everything & works out of the box. Just like in Windows...you do have
    to run upgrades for it...but even with Linux...you have to do that.

    Cool. Well, I've got a heap of old netbooks to try it on. Can it be installed from USB?

    The only thing I don't like about it & I think they are working on it
    is USB/HDD drives from Windows. ArcaOS requires an LVM on them. With
    DFSEE or Linux...very easily done without losing data. Have a 32 GB
    OS/2 USB drive I keep all my back ups on.

    Hmm, OK, will cross that bridge when I get to it. Hopefully I'll have ArcaOS in April, just waiting for some money to come through, so I can buy a copy. :)

    Other than a couple of minor hiccups like the LVM...it installs just
    like Linux/Windows.

    Cool, looks worth a play. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sunday, March 29, 2020 00:48:41
    to run upgrades for it...but even with Linux...you have to do that.
    Cool. Well, I've got a heap of old netbooks to try it on. Can it be installed from USB?


    OH YES!!!! You set up the structure of folders & such on the stick...then
    copy the ISO over to the drive. Something I have found is that you can
    install it...but pull out the drive until you see the devices start loading. Here...you don't do that...the install stops. Hellava better situation than before.

    In terms of the Netbooks...you will be shocked on how well they will run. I would almost compare it to running Puppy Linux.

    Hmm, OK, will cross that bridge when I get to it. Hopefully I'll have ArcaOS in April, just waiting for some money to come through, so I can
    buy a copy. :)

    Have bought a couple of cheap 32 GB Sandisk USB drives to keep backups of all the software in one place. Compared with many games/programs...it's amazing
    how much space you have.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sunday, March 29, 2020 21:49:00
    On 03-29-20 00:48, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    OH YES!!!! You set up the structure of folders & such on the
    stick...then copy the ISO over to the drive. Something I have found is that you can install it...but pull out the drive until you see the
    devices start loading. Here...you don't do that...the install stops. Hellava better situation than before.

    Now that totally baffled me, I have no idea what you're saying, it doesn't make sense.

    In terms of the Netbooks...you will be shocked on how well they will
    run. I would almost compare it to running Puppy Linux.

    Cool, I might have found the ideal OS for them. ;)

    Hmm, OK, will cross that bridge when I get to it. Hopefully I'll have ArcaOS in April, just waiting for some money to come through, so I can
    buy a copy. :)

    Have bought a couple of cheap 32 GB Sandisk USB drives to keep backups
    of all the software in one place. Compared with many
    games/programs...it's amazing how much space you have.


    Cool. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 30, 2020 00:09:41
    OH YES!!!! You set up the structure of folders & such on the stick...then copy the ISO over to the drive. Something I have found i
    Now that totally baffled me, I have no idea what you're saying, it
    doesn't make sense.

    Unlike Etcher & others...you start at a command prompt & prep the USB drive
    for the installation. From there...you copy the ISO to the specific folder on the USB drive. During installation...I leave the drive plugged in while rebooting...the install stalls out right before the ARCAOS icon. You pull it out & put it back in when the drivers are being loaded...it will finish up. It's just different that what we're used to. It does work...but you have to
    do a little bit of work.

    run. I would almost compare it to running Puppy Linux.
    Cool, I might have found the ideal OS for them. ;)

    Just like going to Linux...it does have a learning curve...but it does make sense...especially since going back to Windows...I'm doing stuff in there
    like when working on ArcaOS.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Monday, March 30, 2020 20:13:00
    On 03-30-20 00:09, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Unlike Etcher & others...you start at a command prompt & prep the USB drive for the installation. From there...you copy the ISO to the
    specific folder on the USB drive. During installation...I leave the
    drive plugged in while rebooting...the install stalls out right before
    the ARCAOS icon. You pull it out & put it back in when the drivers are being loaded...it will finish up. It's just different that what we're
    used to. It does work...but you have to do a little bit of work.

    Hmm, OK. guess it'll make more sense when I got o do it. And you introduced another "magic word" - "Etcher". :P

    run. I would almost compare it to running Puppy Linux.
    Cool, I might have found the ideal OS for them. ;)

    Just like going to Linux...it does have a learning curve...but it does make sense...especially since going back to Windows...I'm doing stuff
    in there like when working on ArcaOS.

    Yeah. Hopefully it gives me a good modern version of my OS/2 fix. ;)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Monday, March 30, 2020 15:45:51
    make sense...especially since going back to Windows...I'm doing stuff in there like when working on ArcaOS.
    Yeah. Hopefully it gives me a good modern version of my OS/2 fix. ;)

    Not only that...but out of the box...you have a choice of what you want your desktop to look like. They even have Warp 3 & maybe 2.1 available as themes. Myself...converted a JPG over to a BMP (yeah that is the standard still) of
    the Starship Enterprise A leaving orbit as my wallpaper.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 20:28:00
    On 03-30-20 15:45, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    make sense...especially since going back to Windows...I'm doing stuff in there like when working on ArcaOS.
    Yeah. Hopefully it gives me a good modern version of my OS/2 fix. ;)

    Not only that...but out of the box...you have a choice of what you want your desktop to look like. They even have Warp 3 & maybe 2.1 available
    as themes. Myself...converted a JPG over to a BMP (yeah that is the standard still) of the Starship Enterprise A leaving orbit as my wallpaper.

    Cool, hopefully sometime in April, I'll have my fun. ;)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 18:45:28
    Yeah. Hopefully it gives me a good modern version of my OS/2 fix. ;)
    Not only that...but out of the box...you have a choice of what you wa your desktop to look like. They even have Warp 3 & maybe 2.1 availabl
    Cool, hopefully sometime in April, I'll have my fun. ;)

    You will like it. Tried to find an OS/2 book at the local library...but they had nothing...so ordered the Dummies & Unleashed books off of Ebay.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Thursday, April 02, 2020 14:20:00
    On 04-01-20 18:45, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You will like it. Tried to find an OS/2 book at the local library...but they had nothing...so ordered the Dummies & Unleashed books off of
    Ebay.

    I'm looking forward to getting the OS/2 (family) bug back. :)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Thursday, April 02, 2020 18:48:10
    they had nothing...so ordered the Dummies & Unleashed books off of Ebay.
    I'm looking forward to getting the OS/2 (family) bug back. :)

    Just got that 8 GB chip in. Space was small...but did get both of them put in
    & the BIOS sees the whole area. Even went into System Setup & make the 8 GB I added a RAM Disk. Haven't done anything with it yet...but gonna do some research on seeing about using it to run the background apps of the
    BBS...like tossing & such.

    Matter of fact...am doing this with the telnet client in ArcaOS. Once I
    figured out how to set it up...runs like a dream.

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