I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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On 12-09-19 06:21, Spectre wrote to Anyone <=-

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something
more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back
to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

I was using RA and BinkleyTerm with various tossers back in the day. However, today's BBSs, even though they have taken the name of the old systems are completely new builds from the ground up, using Synchronet and Mystic, years after the old ones closed down.


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Re: BBS Software.....
By: Spectre to Anyone on Mon Dec 09 2019 06:21 am

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

So I re-instated my 1995 BBS (Ezycom) - only to find it problematic with RTE200
errors. Upgrading it to a version that did have those errors, I found it somewhat buggy. (I was using it to feed you at one point.)

Getting back into the scene I started with Mystic - it seemed easy enough, and certainly Avon's videos helped reactivate those old brain cells frozen in deep storage.

But I've switch over to Synchronet for 2 main reasons: The author is active, not only helping to explain why/how things are done, but also fixing and enhancing. The other reason is I get momements of enthusiasm to bring back videotex, and since SBBS enables javascript, its kinda easy to enhance without building something from scratch. (Videotex is enabled if select the Ansitex shell on my BBS - but still have a long list of things I want to do...)
...ëîåã

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Hello Spectre,

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something
more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back
to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

My first BBS and tosser was RA and FMail. A friend helped me set up Fidonet since I had no idea what was going on there. :)

Being an experimenter at some point I installed Maximus and squish. Maximus proved to be a nice and powerfull BBS and squish a very capable tosser. I still
have a healthy respect for both.

I also have fond memories of Telegard and I used Squish with that also along with BinkleyTerm.

I found the Husky Project interesting because in those days I was thinking on moving to linux but was still using DOS and OS/2.

The great thing about the husky stuff is that it is cross platform. It still runs on DOS and OS/2 as well as Linux and the BSDs and Max OS.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

I started off with WWIV as my first board, a few years later when VBBS came
out I switched to it, then to VA. After many years of not running a system
and the death of dial-up, I came back up with a new VA board with a telnet front end. I then switched to Mystic because it did not require me to use a front end like Front Door or Argus to get my networks working. I am now
running 4 Mystic boards and one SBBS board. So far about the only thing I
DON'T like about Mystic the inability to modify a users profile while they
are logged in. User has to log off wait a few while you go into their profile and upgrade their access and then log back in.
---

-Dallas Vinson

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A38 2018/01/01 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Before the Web (21:4/102)

But I've switch over to Synchronet for 2 main reasons: The author is active, not only helping to explain why/how things are done, but also fixing and enhancing. The other reason is I get momements of enthusiasm

The author Mystic is also very active and the software is under constant development.

to bring back videotex, and since SBBS enables javascript, its kinda
easy to enhance without building something from scratch. (Videotex is enabled if select the Ansitex shell on my BBS - but still have a long

What is this "Videotex"? I've never heard of that one before.
---

-Dallas Vinson

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A38 2018/01/01 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Before the Web (21:4/102)

Spectre wrote to Anyone <=-

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er
30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of
something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did
you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and
shiny?

I used PCBoard with Frontdoor (and/or InterMail) MSDOS as the
mailer, under MSDOS, in the early 90's. Shut down after a few years
due to moving and the internet coming alive. Now running Synchronet
under Linux, because it was more effort than I wanted to expend to
get the old DOS stuff going with modern protocols (telnet/IP). I do
have it all archived up and have been able to make it work, but
Synchronet is much easier now and has everything I need.


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But I've switch over to Synchronet for 2 main reasons: The
author is active, not only helping to explain why/how things
are done, but also fixing and enhancing. The other reason is I
get momements of enthusiasm

The author Mystic is also very active and the software is under
constant development.

Not really... at least not like DM is. The last update to Mystic was in February.. It's December now.. I'm sure there's plenty of reasons etc
and sporadic activity is better than none, but I wouldn't say gOOrOO is
"very active" and the software is under "constant development" as it
just isn't true.

Andrew

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Re: Re: BBS Software.....
By: Lupine Furmen to Alterego on Sun Dec 08 2019 05:57 pm

What is this "Videotex"? I've never heard of that one before.

Not sure where in the world you are from, but it was called different things in
different countries.

In AU, it was Viatel. In the UK it was Prestel, and in France it was minitel. In germany it was BTX.

I know the US had something (dont recall the name), but they used a slight variation called NALPS - which had a bit more "graphic" capabilty if I understood it correctly.

But you can think of it as interactive "teletex". My implementation is using ANSI (which I've dubbed ANSItex), so you get more of a graphical experience, and 80x25 columns (it was 40x25 in the day). I've also made it InterBBS - so you can own your own page prefix, and anybody who logs into any ANSItex BBS can
see your pages.
...ëîåã

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On 09 Dec 2019, Spectre said the following...

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago

We started out with Wildcat, changed to Spitfire after a couple years and
stuck with it until we pulled the plug in '04.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/32)
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Lupine Furmen wrote to Alterego <=-

But I've switch over to Synchronet for 2 main reasons: The author is active, not only helping to explain why/how things are done, but also fixing and enhancing. The other reason is I get momements of enthusiasm

The author Mystic is also very active and the software is under
constant development.

I disagree with that. The author takes LONG breaks (AKA
disappearances) and hasn't been seen in MONTHS. No communication
whatsoever, and no development for nearly a year.

None of that falls under "very active" or "constant development".



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On 09 Dec 2019, Spectre said the following...

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

Well, I had started out playing around with Searchlight and Telegard, then had Illusions set up for awhile, then changed over to Proboard. When I got into echomail, I started with FrontDoor, but changed over to InterMail. Allfix for file tossing, and FMail for message tossing.

When I came back to the scene in 2016, I had started with Synchronet. I ran
it for a few months before changing over to Mystic. Recently, I've changed
over to using the Husky project for mail/file tossing, and have not regretted it one bit.


---

Black Panther(RCS)
Castle Rock BBS

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On 09 Dec 2019, Spectre said the following...

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

I used to run Frontdoor and Maximus. When I came back to the scene recently it just made more sense to pick up a more modern BBS package that was natively Internet-based.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Subcarrier BBS (21:2/140)

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

Spec

I ran RemoteAccess back in the 90's and used FrontDoor for mail handeling, worked out pretty well with DOS and DESQview. Been trying lots of BBS
softwares over the years but never put them online. With raspberry pi and Mystic I could now run a BBS online without having a "big" computer online
all the time. The only thing I've left from the original bbs from the 90's
are two .ANS files and one of them are currently the "login" screen for my Mystic BBS :)

//ToTAL

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: ToTAL LoST BBS (21:4/136)

Quoting Spectre to Anyone <=-

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30
odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back
to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

In the 80's I ran home brew software I wrote with the help of a
cousin's friend who was a programmer and answered my questions. :)

When I switched to PC's it was RA first, then various software until I
settled on Maximus. Around 10 years ago I setup ezycom (Maybe longer
then that) and it's been chugging along ever since.

I do have a modern software (MagickaBBS) that is running on a virtual
computer as at some point in the near future I will be shutting the
windows PC down and just using Magicka for everything. I'm just too
lazy to configure apache on that linux box. lol

Shawn

... Where there's a will, there's a lawsuit.

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - telnet://tinysbbs.com:3023 (21:1/130)

What is this "Videotex"? I've never heard of that one before.

Not sure where in the world you are from, but it was called different things in different countries.
I know the US had something (dont recall the name), but they used a
slight variation called NALPS - which had a bit more "graphic" capabilty if I understood it correctly.

Sounds almost like you're describing RIP graphics.
---

-Dallas Vinson

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A38 2018/01/01 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Before the Web (21:4/102)

Hello Spectre!

On 09 Dec 2019, Spectre said the following...

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

I ran RemoteAccess 2.02 (registered), later switched to 2.52 (Y2K fixes I believe), but I experienced message base corruption issues with that one if I recall correctly, so switched back to 2.02.

When I began thinking about re-launching my BBS I decided to go for some
Linux BBS package, as the process of emulating DOS (and running everything on
a headless server i.e. no GUI) seemed a little cumbersome, at least on Debian 10 where some of those packages had been obsoleted... First thought about Synchronet but couldn't get it to compile on Debian 10 despite all
instructions and installing all optional packages etc. So I thought I would
go for Mystic instead.

Tired of compiling stuff (although had to do that for Cryptlib to get SSL support for Mystic), preferring packaged software when possible these days.
:)

Best regards
Zip

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (21:1/202)

In the 80's I ran home brew software I wrote with the help of a
cousin's friend who was a programmer and answered my questions.
:)

What was the pooty you had?

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
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Sounds almost like you're describing RIP graphics.

Its not whats the vector victor, or bmp though, it's still character based.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
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Not really... at least not like DM is. The last update to Mystic was in February.. It's December now.. I'm sure there's plenty of reasons etc
and sporadic activity is better than none, but I wouldn't say gOOrOO is "very active" and the software is under "constant development" as it
just isn't true.

Speaking of beat downs!

between sbbs and mystic right now it's the best out there, both man in my thought are both one hell of a guy to share whatever free time they have for
a bunch of leech that bitch and complain about bugs. Hay I was going to go
back to Wildcat a while ago and decided after working on someone else's setup that NO I think I'll stick with Mystic less bugs and free. now that is not saying I hope to donate money for xmas to the guy that saved me from buying more, more buggy software!

My hat is off to goo0ooo (sorry if spelled worng) but hay this guy is great, slow, busy with family or work or both!

By the way can you add or delete users yet in you software?


|07-= |15H|07a|15v|07o|15k =-
|08We'll leave the modem on for you!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: After Hours|The Villages,FL|afterhours-bbs.com (21:4/119)

What is this "Videotex"? I've never heard of that one before.

Not sure where in the world you are from, but it was called different things in
different countries.

In AU, it was Viatel. In the UK it was Prestel, and in France it was minitel. In germany it was BTX.

I know the US had something (dont recall the name), but they used a
slight variation called NALPS - which had a bit more "graphic"
capabilty if I understood it correctly.

In the UK wasn't it a service available via TV, or am I mixing that up with some other interactive offering from the BBC?

If it was a service via TV, I am not so sure it ever caught on here in the states.



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Not really... at least not like DM is. The last update to
Mystic was in February.. It's December now.. I'm sure there's
plenty of reasons etc and sporadic activity is better than
none, but I wouldn't say gOOrOO is "very active" and the
software is under "constant development" as it just isn't
true.

Speaking of beat downs!

Huh? Did you interpret something I said as an attack? I was just stating
that "very active" and "constant development" isn't true.

between sbbs and mystic right now it's the best out there, both
man in my thought are both one hell of a guy to share whatever free
time they have for a bunch of leech that bitch and complain about
bugs. Hay I was going to go back to Wildcat a while ago and decided
after working on someone else's setup that NO I think I'll stick
with Mystic less bugs and free. now that is not saying I hope to
donate money for xmas to the guy that saved me from buying more,
more buggy software!

Yeah, uh. It's called bug reporting. Making the author aware of bugs so
he can fix them. If you just ignore them and pretend they don't exist,
how is he going to know about them to fix? Ignoring bugs and not
reporting them is far worse in my opinion.

My hat is off to goo0ooo (sorry if spelled worng) but hay this guy
is great, slow, busy with family or work or both!

Sure, gOOrOO is probably up to family, work or both, and I'm sure we're
all thankful for the time he spends when he is active. But right now he
is not, and for most of the year he has not been active, so how is that
very active and constant development?

By the way can you add or delete users yet in you software?

Of course you can. Was that some kind of swipe? Here's a thought, mystic
has been in development, for over 20 years. Yeah, it can do more than
mine which has been in development for what.. 3 or 4?

Andrew

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Re: Re: BBS Software.....
By: Blue White to Alterego on Mon Dec 09 2019 06:08 pm

In the UK wasn't it a service available via TV, or am I mixing that up with some other interactive offering from the BBC?

No, it was a modem service. 1200/75 to the consumer, 1200/1200 to the service provider.

There was a device that you could hook up to your TV to use it, or you could use your PC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mipluyeX4Gs
...ëîåã

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In the UK wasn't it a service available via TV, or am I mixing that up with some other interactive offering from the BBC?

No, it was a modem service. 1200/75 to the consumer, 1200/1200 to the service provider.

Sounds like a mash up between teletext and viatel going on, similar looking but
two very different beasts... viatel is/was dialup, and teletext was buries in the TV signal for an appropriate TV or set top box.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

On 12-09-19 18:08, Blue White wrote to Alterego <=-

In the UK wasn't it a service available via TV, or am I mixing that up with some other interactive offering from the BBC?

No, that was Teletext (at least what we called it in Australia). Teletext had a similar interface to videotex, but it was only one way - you could select and read Teletext pages, but not send data back.


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Quoting Spectre to Tiny <=-

What was the pooty you had?

Commodore 64. Still have a couple but I doubt they work anymore. I
threw out most of my computer collection a few years back when mold
destroyed almost everything I owned.

Shawn

... Don't try this at home... We are PROFESSIONAL idiots!

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apam wrote to Havok <=-

Of course you can. Was that some kind of swipe? Here's a thought,
mystic has been in development, for over 20 years. Yeah, it can do more than mine which has been in development for what.. 3 or 4?

It could do a lot in a very short time. Thanks for working on it and
keeping it updated!


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Yeah, uh. It's called bug reporting. Making the author aware of bugs so
he can fix them. If you just ignore them and pretend they don't exist,
how is he going to know about them to fix? Ignoring bugs and not
reporting them is far worse in my opinion.

Oh I agree with you on that point.

Sure, gOOrOO is probably up to family, work or both, and I'm sure we're all thankful for the time he spends when he is active. But right now he
is not, and for most of the year he has not been active, so how is that very active and constant development?

I'm sure we will see him around soon, as for my way of thinking it can be
that bad. I run it 24/7 Paul runs it and how my mail zones? 3/4?

I can't wait to see what is new with the next release I'm like to see web server sub domains. Laughing for now that is all I want to see.

enough said.


|07-= |15H|07a|15v|07o|15k =-
|08We'll leave the modem on for you!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: After Hours|The Villages,FL|afterhours-bbs.com (21:4/119)

I'm sure we will see him around soon, as for my way of thinking it
can be that bad. I run it 24/7 Paul runs it and how my mail zones?
3/4?

Maybe. He did post a couple of times a month or so ago.

As for it being "that bad" I don't really know, I don't use it. It does
however do some things that it shouldn't do that people have mentioned.

The only thing that bugged me is it's line wrapping of unwrapped
messages that passed through it - because it meant I couldn't test my
message wrapping code on fsxnet due to all the messages already being
wrapped.

I can't wait to see what is new with the next release I'm like to
see web server sub domains. Laughing for now that is all I want to
see.

Use apache. You can proxy to mystic's webserver, and have subdomains.

Andrew

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand - telnet://magickabbs.com:2023/ (21:1/126)

Just checking - did you get my netmail?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Just checking - did you get my netmail?

Just found it now.

Any version mismatches won't be processed, and yes the node must update
to be included even if the game id is the same :)

Sorry, thought it was easier this way, not 100% sure if my netmail is
working..

Andrew


--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand - telnet://magickabbs.com:2023/ (21:1/126)

On 11 Dec 2019 at 10:55a, apam pondered and said...

Any version mismatches won't be processed, and yes the node must update
to be included even if the game id is the same :)

OK thanks good to know, for the next update could you look to add a *** or something against a node in the report.txt output to show at a glance there
is something amiss.

Could we also print at the top in the header some vars that would display current version, current game id, and current date/time the report is generated?

Not essential but just some nice to haves...

Sorry, thought it was easier this way, not 100% sure if my netmail is working..

No probs :) Thanks for the reply / info :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

threw out most of my computer collection a few years back when mold destroyed almost everything I owned.

What'd you get mold into? Usually it just seems to live on floppies, which is kinf of mind boggling in itself. Or did you have a storage failure?

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

On 11 Dec 2019 at 10:55a, apam pondered and said...

Any version mismatches won't be processed, and yes the node
must update to be included even if the game id is the same :)

OK thanks good to know, for the next update could you look to add a
*** or something against a node in the report.txt output to show at
a glance there is something amiss.

Sure, I'll have a look at this soon.

Could we also print at the top in the header some vars that would
display current version, current game id, and current date/time the
report is generated?

Current date / time would be easiest, not sure how to go about the
others as the reporting tool doesn't actually know about what is the
current version or game id. I'll think on it some more.

Not essential but just some nice to haves...

No worries, I've flagged this message so I can come back to it :)

Andrew

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand - telnet://magickabbs.com:2023/ (21:1/126)

I can't wait to see what is new with the next release I'm like to
see web server sub domains. Laughing for now that is all I want to see.

Use apache. You can proxy to mystic's webserver, and have subdomains.

Agreed! Or nginx. I'd never put anything other than a tried-and-true, scale tested web browser against the open internet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: monterey bbs (21:1/168)

On 11 Dec 2019 at 11:05a, apam pondered and said...

Sure, I'll have a look at this soon.

Thanks Andrew...

Current date / time would be easiest, not sure how to go about the
others as the reporting tool doesn't actually know about what is the current version or game id. I'll think on it some more.

Thanks again, perhaps it could pull it from a var set in the ini file?
Dunno... I may be over complicating things unnecessarily.

Not essential but just some nice to haves...

No worries, I've flagged this message so I can come back to it :)

:)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Twas Sunday, December 8th when Spectre said...

I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

Way back when, I experimented with a number of systems, but ultimately landed with Oblivion/2 as my main BBS setup for quite a long time. For a while I had a
secret sub-board running System/X (dESiRE for a short while, but it was a bit too unstable).

System/X was essentially a PC version of Amiga's /X style setup allowing tight integration with messages and files (they share confs basically).

Oblivion/2 was quite amazing for the time IMO and allowed tons of modding options (which I did a TON of). A close friend ran iNiQUiTY which also had huge
potential but seemed a bit unstable at times as well.

...now in the modern times, I wrote and run ENiGMA 1/2 which is defintely inspired by the above -- and more systems I really liked -- some very obscure, many "artscene" related and the like.



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NuSkooler
Xibalba BBS @ xibalba.l33t.codes / 44510(telnet) 44511(ssh)
ENiGMA 1/2 BBS WHQ | Phenom | 67 | iMPURE | ACiDic

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I think I've covered my own before... I was a complete DOS virgin when it came to setting up a BBS having been proud owner of an Apple II.

The very first software I fired up was RA, followed by SBBS and then swapping between the two for a while, before sticking with SBBS after the menu items became significantly different.

Along the way, I had waffle running as a door at one point, and then a second BBS running that'd lost its home for some months.

Spec


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Quoting Spectre to Tiny <=-

What'd you get mold into? Usually it just seems to live on floppies,
which is kinf of mind boggling in itself. Or did you have a storage failure?

It got into everything. Clothes, furnature, golf clubs, christmas
stuff. You name it black mold got into it. The old plastic computers
were covered in the stuff.

Took over the entire house in about 7 days. Nasty nasty stuff that
black mold.

Shawn

... There are no atheists in the foxholes.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mipluyeX4Gs

Thanks for sharing that, it is very interesting. I read up more about it.
It sounds like it may have caught on in certain parts of the US but I don't think it was ever available in the market I was in unless it was via the
cable company. It was last offered in the US in 1993 and I did not get
cable until 1994 or later, so I am not familiar with it.

I am a fan of the TV show "Last of the Summer Wine" and do remember a
character asking if a TV was compatible with the service at least once. Apparently, it was a big selling point for him. :)

After watching the video and seeing some other stills, my impression is
that it looks a lot like an ANSI BBS, but maybe even moreso like graphics I remember seeing on my TI-99 or a friends Commodore C64. I think it looks pretty neat!

Now if someone would just create a Worm door game. :)



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I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years
ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more
modern? Did
you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and
something new
looked all bright and shiny?

Spec

This requires some explanation on my part. See, I use a command driven BBS system based on a model called KOM that AFAIK was invented here in Sweden in the 70s. Since then there has been tons of different Swedish BBS systems that is somewhat based on KOM and back in the day I used three different ones - in the mid 80s I used a system called Mikrokom (written in Turbo Pascal, single node only and ran in MS-DOS. No FTN support), and later I used H-KOM (H as in Harald, old friend and co-worker of mine who wrote his own BBS system) and finally a system called TPCS (as in The Perfect Conference System, humbly named
so by two friends of mine called Mikael and Krister). Then I shut down my BBS for 20 or so years and when I wanted to start one again I wanted it to be able to do four things:

1. Be connected to the Internet.
2. Be a KOM system.
3. Be able to handle FTN.
4. Be able to handle several logged in users at the same time.

H-KOM was multi-node but I didn't have the software anymore and neither did Harald. TPCS I got hold of and managed to have the bineries patched for the Y2K
thing since the developers had the source code but no way of compiling it. I was lusting for another swedish KOM system called TCL (The Common Link) written
by a guy called Ulf and while I got hold of some/most/all of the binaries I didn't get hold of any documentation and Ulf is yet to find it. There is another person here in Sweden running TPCS but he denied to help me get it running (he is the same person who made threats against me and my wife after I launched a new web site for Fidonet earlier this year...)

I parallell to all this I nurtured a dream since my teens to run a BBS on my Amiga. After a lot of trial and error and considerable help from others I got a
system called NiKom running on my Amiga 1200, connected to the Internet via ethernet and a clever piece of software called Telnetd that creates virtual serial ports that the BBS system talks to and in turn connect that to a telnet service running in the Amiga. NiKom fulfills all the four things I wanted my BBS to be able to do, but the downside is that it (of course) requires AmigaOS.
Earlier this year I decided to move my BBS to a PC running AmigaOS in a emulator since I was afraid my 33 year old Amiga 2000 (which is hosting the BBS
now) would break on me and that's the way I run it now.

One of these days I will do a proper write-up on how I manage to get Binkd and Crashmail II running in Linux to work with my BBS system running in a emulated Amiga but that's not for today.

Oh yeah - you can check out Nikom at www.nikom.org. My BBS is only in Swedish but Niklas, who wrote the software and still maintains it, runs his BBS in both
Swedish and English modes if you want to try out the KOM experience.


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Use apache. You can proxy to mystic's webserver, and have subdomains.

I have use it, but being all my training is in Microsoft I run IIS 10

I have a question for you, I saw in your dosemu instructions you have do convert unix dos convert to dos text file for your drop files. does your bbs change it for you?

I did use a lot of your instructions for Mystic and it runs dos doors like a pro!

Tanx!


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Hello Paul

Hay where would send my instructions do run DOS doors with linux Mystic? I'd like to share it with people that need help like I did but figured it out on
my own?


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I have a question for you, I saw in your dosemu instructions you
have do convert unix dos convert to dos text file for your drop
files. does your bbs change it for you?

My BBS writes drop files with DOS line endings, so there is no need to
use unix2dos.

Andrew


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On 13 Dec 2019 at 04:53a, Havok pondered and said...

Hay where would send my instructions do run DOS doors with linux Mystic? I'd like to share it with people that need help like I did but figured
it out on my own?

avon@bbs.nz please

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Hi Havok

Hay where would send my instructions do run DOS doors with linux Mystic? I'd like to share it with people that need help like I did but figured
it out on my own?

I would like a copy as well please imsegers at xtra at co at nz unless
avon hatches it , I wait to then

Thank you
Ian S 2nd Choice Core Mystic Nz
web http://2ndchoicecore.nz:81

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I'm somewhat intrigued as to, what software anyone was using er 30 odd years ago and why you decided to swap it out in favour of something more modern? Did you run the whole time and evolve, did you come back to it, and something new looked all bright and shiny?

Spec

*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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On the C64, I’ve used Ivory, All American, CNet 64 and Image.
On the PC, I’ve used RA, Ezycom, Robobbs, Renegade, Synchronet and Mystic. Synchronet and Mystic are at top for BBSes right now at the moment.

$ The Millionaire $
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Not sure if I responded to this.. I got started 33 years ago, I was a
Commodore 64 user, I started out with All American for 1 day. LOL then got ahold of a pirated CNet 10.0, I put the BBS on that and ran it for about 6 months then moved on to 11.1a, then 12.0 then 12.1. I moved on to Image BBS
in 1988 and ran Image till 1993 when I had enough of the baby nonsense from
my users. Plus after running the BBS for 7 years and supplying nationwide support for Image BBS for 4 years (Running the SysOp support group NISSA) I
was burnt.. I took down the Image board and took off 6 months to get my bearings straight again, once it's in your blood it doesn't go away, I put up
a Excelsior! Amiga board for about a year and half, then put up a Wildcat! WinServer board when it came out. About a year after that, I was asked to
join the programming team of Image BBS v2.0 and put that up. That software
was never finished until last year and released! Now I am back on the programming team if that is what you want to call it (myself and another
sysOp) and we are writing and finishing up Image 3.0... Now I run all 3 versions of Image 1.2, 2.0, and 3.0. In addition to Mystic, and a C-Net Amiga board.. Jeez...

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Bucko wrote to All <=-

SysOp support group NISSA) I was burnt.. I took down the Image board
and took off 6 months to get my bearings straight again, once it's in
your blood it doesn't go away, I put up a Excelsior! Amiga board for

[...]

we are writing and finishing up Image 3.0... Now I run all 3 versions
of Image 1.2, 2.0, and 3.0. In addition to Mystic, and a C-Net Amiga board.. Jeez...

It really did get into your blood! :)



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On 18 Dec 2019, Blue White said the following...

It really did get into your blood! :)

Yea it did, I got to take off 22 years to get my head back on and now I am
back in.. Like Michael Corleone elegantly stated, I try to get out but they keep pulling me back in!

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RE: Re: BBS Software.....
BY: Alterego (21:2/116)

On Monday, December 09, 2019 at 10:43, Alterego (21:2/116) wrote:

I know the US had something (dont recall the name), but they used a slight A>variation called NALPS - which had a bit more "graphic" capabilty if I A>understood it correctly.

It's NAPLPS (North American Presentation Level Protocol Syntax). It started out in the 1980s and lived on until the early 1990s. It didn't catch on as much as RIPscrip, which was introduced in 1992.

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My BBS writes drop files with DOS line endings, so there is no need to
use unix2dos.

Ah, smart man!
Thanks for the reply, live and learn even at my age....


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options (which I did a TON of). A close friend ran iNiQUiTY which also

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...now in the modern times, I wrote and run ENiGMA 1/2 which is defintely inspired by the above -- and more systems I really liked -- some very obscure, many "artscene" related and the like.

Does ENiGMA still use the ACS flags? or have you gone with another type of access system?

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