Also, I have asthma and just had surgery recently (unrelated) which puts me at risk. Hooray. So now I am probably a carrier. fsxNet patient 0. Awesome.
Just venting a bit. Sometimes the US is ridiculous. This is one of those times.
The numbers of Novel Coronavirus detections in the US are basically on a j-curve at this point if you look at the graph, but it's still just a
tiny fraction of reality.
Because of the way we handle medicine here, and because of the fact that
we declined medical support from anyone offering it outside of the US,
we now have a pandemic that's off the rails. Allow me to explain.
My girlfriend works at Facebook in their HQ office. She's been in close contact with people from all sorts of countries up until the end of last week, when Facebook finally had an offical reported positive Coronavirus employee and they decided to close up their offices. Employees have been asking to work from home and being told no. But now they can work from home, but it's too late.
My girlfriend yesterday developed a fever, sore throat, aches, and a
cough. She's an extremely healthy person and hasn't had a fever since
she was a child.
She's been asking the doctor to test her for coronavirus because of the above but in the US the only way you can be tested is if you 1) came
from China or Italy or one of those places within 2 weeks, or 2) were in contact with someone who is a known carrier of the virus.
So that means we potentially know like, what, 1/10th the actual scope of infected people at any given time.
Also, I have asthma and just had surgery recently (unrelated) which puts
me at risk. Hooray. So now I am probably a carrier. fsxNet patient 0. Awesome.
Just venting a bit. Sometimes the US is ridiculous. This is one of those times.
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On 03-10-20 16:49, ryan wrote to All <=-
Also, I have asthma and just had surgery recently (unrelated) which
puts me at risk. Hooray. So now I am probably a carrier. fsxNet patient
0. Awesome.
Also, I have asthma and just had surgery recently (unrelated) which puts me at risk. Hooray. So now I am probably a carrier. fsxNet patie 0. Awesome.
So you're going to infect us all? And there's no antivurus updates for this one yet. ;)
On 03-10-20 21:05, ryan wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Also, I have asthma and just had surgery recently (unrelated) which puts me at risk. Hooray. So now I am probably a carrier. fsxNet patie 0. Awesome.
So you're going to infect us all? And there's no antivurus updates for this one yet. ;)
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mail packets!
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mail packets!
She's been asking the doctor to test her for coronavirus because of
the above but in the US the only way you can be tested is if you 1)
came from China or Italy or one of those places within 2 weeks, or 2)
were in contact with someone who is a known carrier of the virus.
So that means we potentially know like, what, 1/10th the actual scope
of infected people at any given time.
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 16:49:53 -0700
"ryan -> All" <0@168.1.21> wrote:
She's been asking the doctor to test her for coronavirus because of the above but in the US the only way you can be tested is if you 1) came from China or Italy or one of those places within 2 weeks, or 2) were in contact with someone who is a known carrier of the virus.
I thought the restrictions were lifted. If it's known that there is untraced community spread and they don't test people that are not linked to a known case, what the fuck is their strategy?
So that means we potentially know like, what, 1/10th the actual scope of infected people at any given time.
like 10 000 today?
ryan wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Also, I have asthma and just had surgery recently (unrelated) which puts me at risk. Hooray. So now I am probably a carrier. fsxNet patie 0. Awesome.
So you're going to infect us all? And there's no antivurus updates for this one yet. ;)
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mail
packets!
All TCP operations are being suspended, pending swap over to UDP, to
avoid handshaking.
I thought the restrictions were lifted. If it's known that there is untraced community spread and they don't test people that are not linked to a known case, what the fuck is their strategy?
like 10 000 today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mail
packets!
All TCP operations are being suspended, pending swap over to UDP, to
avoid handshaking.
Just venting a bit. Sometimes the US is ridiculous. This is one of those times.
I thought the restrictions were lifted. If it's known that
there is untraced community spread and they don't test people
that are not linked to a known case, what the fuck is their
strategy?
My understanding is that the USA has an extremely limited supply of coronavirus test kits because the Trump administration refused to buy
test kits from another country and insisted we could develop them ourselves.
So...we have one contract company building test kits for the federal government as well as state governments.
like 10 000 today?
In the USA, but yeah, we have no idea the actual scope of this thing because we've limited our ability to truly investigate it to only
people coming directly from other countries that have known massive outbreaks. It's silly.
ryan wrote to Spectre <=-
All TCP operations are being suspended, pending swap over to UDP, to
avoid handshaking.
Very clever joke here spec ;)
Man that really sucks. I am assuming she's on the younger side at
least? That will certainly work in her favor if it turns out to be CV.
On the flipside in the US my area of PA has had a confirmed infected person and the Facebook for that area is littered with people claiming there is no reason to be cautious, that people are "idiots" and
"freaking out" over nothing.
In the US there is no system in place to inform the public of outbreak unless they go out of their way to keep on top of it. Watching the 11pm news isn't effective.
In Korea they have alerts being pushed out in real time to every mobile device in Seoul when a new infection is uncovered telling them when and where this occured, how many people they believe could be affected and
if you were there you should be tested or concerned. Basically an
"Amber alert" for the Coronavirus.
In the US you cannot get tested and if you can it apparently is so expensive no one is going to do it.
In Korea, many buildings and stores and restaraunts offer a free sanitization station where you are asked (sometimes required) to
sanitize yourself before entering. Some buildings have infrared devices that are instantly taking your temporature to monitor you for signs of illness and a real human there making sure these things are happening.
As an American here many have reminded me to wear a mask and keep up
with good hygiene and sanitization.
It does seem like companies are trying to be preventive in the US but the public overall is resistant and careless.
I realize American is bigger and that the outbreak is larger in Korea and that makes things different, but there is a big contrast in how things
are handled between the two locations.
It seems the only way to control it is testing, testing and more
testing. Of course other preventative measures are important too, but without large-scale testing it's still kind of hopeless.
"South Korea sees decline in coronavirus cases after mass testing": https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/south-korea-sees-decline-in-coronavirus- -after-mass-testing-80427077811
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mail packetsAll TCP operations are being suspended, pending swap over to UDP, to
avoid handshaking.
In Korea, many buildings and stores and restaraunts offer a free sanitization station where you are asked (sometimes required) to sanitize yourself before entering.
It seems the only way to control it is testing, testing and more testing. Of course other preventative measures are important too, but without large-scale testing it's still kind of hopeless.
ryan wrote to All <=-
She's been asking the doctor to test her for coronavirus because of the above but in the US the only way you can be tested is if you 1) came
from China or Italy or one of those places within 2 weeks, or 2) were
in contact with someone who is a known carrier of the virus.
So that means we potentially know like, what, 1/10th the actual scope
of infected people at any given time.
Make sure you convert your network over to Netware (it's routable)
Maybe its Captain Trips :) Anyone seen Randall Flag yet?
Yeah, but this means I'll be infected and I'm an asthmatic who just had surgery two weeks ago and am still recovering. Still, I assume I'll be fine.
This is the culture of the US, unfortunately. Anti-intellectualism at its finest.
We also have limited means to test people. Case in point: my girlfriend has been in close contact with China- and Italy- travelers over the past several weeks. Now she's symptomatic. However, doctors (over video appointment) tell her the bar for getting an actual test is that you personally have to have recently traveled OR you need to have been in contact with someone that is confirmed CV.
This means our ability to detect community infection is basically zero,...
I disagree on the size of the outbreak being bigger. The key piece of the puzzle here is "confirmed cases" - it seems like Korea probably has a
more honest understanding of this, whereas in the USA we tell everyone they probably just have a cold and call it a day.
I don't think that is a US thing. Kentucky is apparently testing anyone who presents with symptoms, and the tests are done at the state lab. I think it must be how your *state* is handling it, which sounds a little backwards.
On 03-11-20 18:23, Spectre wrote to ryan <=-
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mail packets!
All TCP operations are being suspended, pending swap over to UDP, to
avoid handshaking.
On 03-11-20 08:28, Gamgee wrote to ryan <=-
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mail
packets!
Just don't include any attachments with your messages!!! :)
On 03-12-20 10:32, Spectre wrote to Phoobar <=-
Make sure you convert your network over to Netware (it's routable)
Ponder, am I missing something, I thought netware was ipx based and not routable??? I could always just go to IPX and make it insular :)
Its sad that I could probably get a test then with 0 symptoms (knock on wood) then since I've been in Korea but she can't when shes showing
pretty much all of the symptoms.
Agreed. Korea is doing by far the most testing in the world by a signficiant amount last I saw anyway. Their numbers are going to be
large when you have tested 100,000 suspected people vs the US testing
500 people. People like your girlfriend right now are going completely under the radar in the US and in Korea she would have got immediate treatment (and would never have been forced to work with anyone from
China and Italy to begin with).
Trump addressed the nation today basically stoking fears about
foreigners. Typical "deflect the problem onto others" response. That
and she's very bright and helpful. I hope giving her a glimpse of what it's like to likely be an infected person with no means for diagnosis or treatment with a worldwide pandemic and ideally turn that into some sort of meaningful conversation at a higher level.
tomorrow, but they don't have testing kits as far as I know. Even still, if there does wind up being some sort of treatment, that's fascinating, because we can't even figure out how to deal with a diagnosis yet.
Make sure you convert your network over to Netware (it's routable)Ponder, am I missing something, I thought netware was ipx based and not routable??? I could always just go to IPX and make it insular :)
required the right pppd options and IPX support enabled in the kernel).
If you want to avoid routing altogether, there's NetBEUI. :D
Trump addressed the nation today basically stoking fears about
foreigners. Typical "deflect the problem onto others" response. That
said, he did do some pretty compelling things to help prevent economic collapse. I didn't catch anything tangible to deal with the spread of
the disease, though.
it's like to likely be an infected person with no means for diagnosis treatment with a worldwide pandemic and ideally turn that into some s of meaningful conversation at a higher level.Its always good to take action. I just hope that she somehow has some power to do something. She may be in a situation where she knows things are ridiculous but shes powerless to help.
This is pretty scary stuff, I wish you guys the best.
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mailpackets!
All TCP operations are being suspended, pending swap over to UDP, to avoid handshaking.
And service delivery no longer guaranteed. :D
Just don't include any attachments with your messages!!! :)
Yeah I don't want to have to examine your attachment! :P
Ponder, am I missing something, I thought netware was ipx based and not routable??? I could always just go to IPX and make it insular :)
IPX/SPX is definitely routeable, though it uses a much simpler a that
If you want to avoid routing altogether, there's NetBEUI. :D
On 03-12-20 08:52, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
required the right pppd options and IPX support enabled in the kernel).
If you want to avoid routing altogether, there's NetBEUI. :D
Very true. Funny thing about NetBEUI...used to be standard setup in OS/2...but with ArcaOS...you have to go out of your way to set it up. Now...it's TCP/IP out of the box.
On 03-12-20 17:03, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Haha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mailpackets!
All TCP operations are being suspended, pending swap over to UDP, to avoid handshaking.
And service delivery no longer guaranteed. :D
A significantly faster but more unreliable service. Just make sure you send two instead of one for extra redundancy :)
On 03-12-20 17:05, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Just don't include any attachments with your messages!!! :)
Yeah I don't want to have to examine your attachment! :P
Just be glad it doesn't have a groinal socket with varying
attachements.
On 03-12-20 17:07, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Ponder, am I missing something, I thought netware was ipx based and not routable??? I could always just go to IPX and make it insular :)
IPX/SPX is definitely routeable, though it uses a much simpler a that
If you want to avoid routing altogether, there's NetBEUI. :D
Might be confusing the two... I thought NetBEUI ran over the top of
IPX...
This is pretty scary stuff, I wish you guys the best.
Thanks. My gf has an in-person appointment later today. I told her not to take anything for fever to make sure she has the most compelling symptoms when she shows up at the doctor. This whole thing is nuts.
That said I'm pretty sure we'll be fine, but I'm also pretty sure most
of us will wind up catching this at some point. There's no putting the genie back in the bottle.
Yes, I remember having to install and setup TCP/IP on OS/2 Warp 3. I
had to leave NetBEUI running, so the Windows boxes and OS/2 could share files, but I couldn't make OS/2 talk to the Linux box running Samba
(which was IP only, of course).
the radio this morning. What a fucking moron. "Yeah,
so, the horses left the barn a few weeks ago, but today
I'm taking the decisive step of closing the door!"
On 03-12-20 21:04, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yes, I remember having to install and setup TCP/IP on OS/2 Warp 3. I
had to leave NetBEUI running, so the Windows boxes and OS/2 could share files, but I couldn't make OS/2 talk to the Linux box running Samba
(which was IP only, of course).
Remember running across NetBEUI while studying for my NT 4 exams. It's something we don't come across anymore...gladly.
That said I'm pretty sure we'll be fine, but I'm also pretty sure most
of us will wind up catching this at some point. There's no putting the genie back in the bottle.
Yeah, I think it's still possible to install, but everyone uses CIFS
over IP, even the NetBIOS layer is gone now (hence the change from port 139 to 445). :)
On 03-13-20 07:43, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, I think it's still possible to install, but everyone uses CIFS
over IP, even the NetBIOS layer is gone now (hence the change from port 139 to 445). :)
That's the title SAMBA with ArcaOS uses. Did notice the Warp core is
still there...in case you want to set it up.
Vk3jed wrote to Phoobar <=-
Yes, I remember having to install and setup TCP/IP on OS/2 Warp 3. I
had to leave NetBEUI running, so the Windows boxes and OS/2 could share files, but I couldn't make OS/2 talk to the Linux box running Samba
(which was IP only, of course).
That's the title SAMBA with ArcaOS uses. Did notice the Warp core is still there...in case you want to set it up.Interesting. I think Samba will be of more use to me these days.
The numbers of Novel Coronavirus detections in the US are basically on
a
j-curve at this point if you look at the graph, but it's still just a
tiny
fraction of reality.
Because of the way we handle medicine here, and because of the fact
that we
declined medical support from anyone offering it outside of the US, we
now
have a pandemic that's off the rails. Allow me to explain.
My girlfriend works at Facebook in their HQ office. She's been in
close
contact with people from all sorts of countries up until the end of
last
week, when Facebook finally had an offical reported positive
Coronavirus
employee and they decided to close up their offices. Employees have
been
asking to work from home and being told no. But now they can work from home,
but it's too late.
My girlfriend yesterday developed a fever, sore throat, aches, and a
cough.
She's an extremely healthy person and hasn't had a fever since she was
a
child.
She's been asking the doctor to test her for coronavirus because of
the above
but in the US the only way you can be tested is if you 1) came from
China or
Italy or one of those places within 2 weeks, or 2) were in contact
with
someone who is a known carrier of the virus.
So that means we potentially know like, what, 1/10th the actual scope
of
infected people at any given time.
Also, I have asthma and just had surgery recently (unrelated) which
puts me
at risk. Hooray. So now I am probably a carrier. fsxNet patient 0.
Awesome.
Just venting a bit. Sometimes the US is ridiculous. This is one of
those
times.
Me and my team have been pleading with our management for the last ten days to be allowed to work from home. No confirmed COVID cases in our staff yet but several other companies in the same building as us have
sent all their employees home to work remotely.
This morning we are FINALLY being told we are going to work from home
from tomorrow.
This morning we are FINALLY being told we are going to work from home
from tomorrow.
On 03-13-20 07:51, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
So, we had Ethernet, Ethernet_SNAP and Ethernet_II frames on the wire,
Netware networks running on IPX/SPX, Appletalk services running
natively and on Netware, Windows boxes using NetBEUI, Windows clients
all fighting to see who'd be the master browser for the workgroup, and
all of them wanting to load IP stacks to talk to the internet...
Now, everything is Ethernet_II and IP, life is good.
On 03-14-20 13:41, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
That's the title SAMBA with ArcaOS uses. Did notice the Warp core is still there...in case you want to set it up.Interesting. I think Samba will be of more use to me these days.
It is. Used it under Mint/Raspbian & usually works like a dream.
Got to play around with Mystic A46 for OS/2. This version is almost
usable & smokes while running under OS/2. Moved my BBS files over to OS/2...installed the software. Was able to play the MPLC compiled games without a hitch...the menus worked like a dream...with the files
section fully stocked. The message areas were listed...but no messages were listed. The configuration area was not there...but it is usable to see what Mystic would be like under OS/2. Played around with it for
about 2 hours.
Joacim Melin wrote to ryan <=-
Me and my team have been pleading with our management for the last ten days to be allowed to work from home. No confirmed COVID cases in our staff yet but several other companies in the same building as us have
sent all their employees home to work remotely.
This morning we are FINALLY being told we are going to work from home
from tomorrow.
sHaha. I hope you guys have clamav scanning your incoming mail packet
All TCP operations are being suspended, pending swap over to UDP, to
avoid handshaking.
Make sure you convert your network over to Netware (it's routable) &
use a
proxy to convert the packets to TCP/IP to head safely out to the rest
of us.
See...I did remember something from the Proxy Server exam 20 years ago
for my
MCSE. ;)
Since my job is half administering virtual servers and half desktop
support for people that aren't coming into the office, I'll be at home
for the next 2 weeks.
On 03-15-20 20:40, Joacim Melin wrote to Phoobar <=-
Ah yes - IPX. The network killer. The proper way to test switches and routers
back in the day was to run a network game of Doom over IPX. Badly
built networks caved within minutes.
Interesting. I think Samba will be of more use to me these days.Yes. I have it running on my Linux Mint desktop.
It is. Used it under Mint/Raspbian & usually works like a dream.
see what Mystic would be like under OS/2. Played around with it for about 2 hours.Cool, nice! I might need things like that to play with. :)
Ah yes - IPX. The network killer. The proper way to test switches and routers back in the day was to run a network game of Doom over IPX.
Badly built networks caved within minutes.
On 03-15-20 22:07, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Interesting. I think Samba will be of more use to me these days.Yes. I have it running on my Linux Mint desktop.
It is. Used it under Mint/Raspbian & usually works like a dream.
Know it's behind Ubuntu...but love how it's more & more complete than Windows 10 is. Codec's & such can be loaded as part of the install...rather than doing it after the install.
see what Mystic would be like under OS/2. Played around with it for about 2 hours.Cool, nice! I might need things like that to play with. :)
Bought a 32 GB flash drive today for $8 US. Will be using that for an
OS/2 drive to keep all the software on.
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