This hole COVID-19 crap is very disturbing and saddening. However here
in the US the media is propaganda spreading complete doom and gloom BS
...
Lets get real ... In the US so far this year alone, the freaking FLU has taken 20,000 lives, Including Children in the US.
This hole COVID-19 crap is very disturbing and saddening. However her in the US the media is propaganda spreading complete doom and gloom B ...
Lets get real ... In the US so far this year alone, the freaking FLU taken 20,000 lives, Including Children in the US.
Recent estimates based on computer modeling show the
2019-nCoV to have an R0 of 2.68 and mortality rate of
approximately 2%. Compare to the common flu, which
has a similar R0 and mortality rate of 0.1%. Moreover,
there's no evidence that COVID-19 has strong reaction
to seasonal temperature change yet. What this means
in real terms is that the total number of infections
doubles roughly once every 10 days. Given current
rates of infection, we're looking at something like
millions of cases within a month or two, and tens of
thousands of deaths shortly thereafter. That's cause
for alarm.
Moreover, the flu is a known disease with known
characteristics; they call COVID-19 "novel" for a
reason: it hasn't been seen in humans before, and we
have no natural defenses against it. Part of the
baited breath has to do with us not being in a position
to know much about how bad it's going to be yet.
That's a problem.
So yeah, people should be alarmed. Over the top
panic is not helpful, but we shouldn't be complacent,
either.
This hole COVID-19 crap is very disturbing and saddening. However
here in the US the media is propaganda spreading complete doom and
gloom BS ...
NOW .... COVID-19 ( aka propaganda Doom and Gloom )
In the US 17 has died from this "Flu Like" virus
In the UK 14
World Wide 3,200 with a mortality rate of 3.4%
The problem in the US is that they still doing enough testing and
nobody knows how many people are already infected. Community spread
will be massive and it will be out of control very soon. Let's see
what happens when there will be more Covid-19 cases in the US than in China.
Recent estimates based on computer modeling show the
2019-nCoV to have an R0 of 2.68 and mortality rate of
approximately 2%. Compare to the common flu, which
has a similar R0 and mortality rate of 0.1%. Moreover,
there's no evidence that COVID-19 has strong reaction
to seasonal temperature change yet. What this means
in real terms is that the total number of infections
doubles roughly once every 10 days. Given current
rates of infection, we're looking at something like
millions of cases within a month or two, and tens of
thousands of deaths shortly thereafter. That's cause
for alarm.
Lets just agree to disagree ....
Those numbers are not alarming but shows that this could take off and we need to be prepared.
It's ok to ask questions; it's frankly not ok to doubt
the science.
It's ok to ask questions; it's frankly not ok to doubt
the science.
Hello tenser,
It's ok to ask questions; it's frankly not ok to doubt
the science.
There is no doubt here. The one I was talking about in critical
condition has died last night, the first death in Canada from this
virus. One of the workers at that care home has also tested positive and is now at home in isolation.
Something tells me citizens of the USA will have a problem with that ;) There's a long, sordid history of anti-intellectualism here.
massive and it will be out of control very soon. Let's see what happens when there will be more Covid-19 cases in the US than in China.
Here in BC last week there were seven cases, all recovered. Now there
are 13 cases with one in critical condition.
No. If you have a specific disagreement with the
analysis, then bring that up, but based on facts
and scientific evidence. Not your gut feeling.
Otherwise, opining about something as dangerous as
a pandemic is morally wrong and you should not do
it.
I'm not sure how Argos can disagree with math. It's math, 1 or 0, no in between. *shrug*
On 03-09-20 20:12, Oli wrote to Argos <=-
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 13:03:55 -0400
"Argos -> All" <0@203.1.21> wrote:
This hole COVID-19 crap is very disturbing and saddening. However
here in the US the media is propaganda spreading complete doom and
gloom BS ...
The problem in the US is that they still doing enough testing and
nobody knows how many people are already infected. Community spread
will be massive and it will be out of control very soon. Let's see what happens when there will be more Covid-19 cases in the US than in China.
On 03-10-20 09:16, tenser wrote to Al <=-
On 09 Mar 2020 at 12:21p, Al pondered and said...
Those numbers are not alarming but shows that this could take off and we need to be prepared.
Indeed. We need to listen to experts, not politicians
and not self-styled truth-tellers who don't understand
science or epidemiology. The experts have clearly said
that we're on a logistical growth curve. Should we
panic? No. But we should be very concerned.
Here in BC last week there were seven cases, all recovered. Now
there are 13 cases with one in critical condition.
Sadly one passed away today in your neck of the woods Al.
I think the effort is to minimise the rate of spread through testing key people and suspected cases, and encouraging good hygiene (hand washing FTW), and where necessary, self quarantine. That way, we might buy more time to (1) get a vaccine, and (2) have not too many people dopwn with this at the same time.
And also making people aware that if they have
cold/flu like symptoms, it's probably not a good idea to visit their elderly relatives, until they get over it.
On 03-11-20 02:48, tenser wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Sadly, here in the US, we flubbed this badly. The early
restrictions on travel from infected areas could have
bought us time, but we squandered it and failed to prepare.
This is what happens when ideologues who eschew expertise
are running the show, instead of professionals who are
actually competent. Hopefully public awareness and
voluntary social distancing will help reduce the change
rate and drive it below 1 faster, so we can get out of the
exponential part of the curve. Sadly, I suspect if that
happens the blowhards will then turn around and claim
victory over the experts, asserting that they were right
and it was all alarmist paranoia and politically motivated
hysteria (and oh, by the way, let's defund the CDC because
'merica!).
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