What I'm wondering off hand is, does Sync normally resolve these
colours? And if it does, what has SuperBBS done to the message thats altered that string from normal so it no longer renders.
Embalmed
Somehow renders into a colour sequence normally, or at least for some of you. Now I'm looking at it in SyncTerm and I have a series of letters
Well these are display pipe codes, maybe superBBS doesn't support
them?
weird to them, and I was trying to figure out what that may be. If its the BBS thats meant to interpret and send ansi codes then Super just
isn't going to do it, and I'll just continue to ignore it.
Yeah, that is the color pipe codes. While many BBSes supports them, it's not all of them. That is the main reason many will simplify their
The BBS interprets it and sends ANSI codes
Yeah, that is the color pipe codes. While many BBSes supports them, i not all of them. That is the main reason many will simplify their
So what renders the colours the BBS software or the client terminal?
Fun fact: Before I ran Renegade for many years I ran WWIV briefly and
I wanted to run Telegard but the only local BBS that I knew had TG 2.5 refused to share it, and I had no idea how to get it. I thought SuperBBS
roovis wrote to g00r00 <=-
That guy was a jerk. TG 2.5 was my first exposure to Telegard. I
remember when I was testing BBS software, the WFC was a huge change
from what I was accustomed to with the WWIV WFC screen, which was
blank. I was wowed. Now, running Mystic under Linux, a WFC screen is a thing of the past for me... (in some ways ... sadly)
Yeah, that is the color pipe codes. While many BBSes supports them, i not all of them. That is the main reason many will simplify their
So what renders the colours the BBS software or the client terminal?
That guy was a jerk. TG 2.5 was my first exposure to Telegard. I remember when I was testing BBS software, the WFC was a huge change from what I
was accustomed to with the WWIV WFC screen, which was blank. I was
wowed. Now, running Mystic under Linux, a WFC screen is a thing of the past for me... (in some ways ... sadly)
Your first experiences always leave an impression - my first experience with Fidonet was with a couple of OPUS CBCS boards in the San Francisco bay area, and I liked the simple menus. I tried OPUS first, didn't like having one *.msg file per message on a system with 2 32 mb drives.
You can always run ./mis as a non-service and have a WFC screen or use NodeSpy as a WFC screen!
You can always run ./mis as a non-service and have a WFC screen or us NodeSpy as a WFC screen!
I do. Speaking of which -- can we get a template/ini setup for the
Nodespy screen? I'd like to reduce the logo size and pack it with more information.
But anyway, yes I want to make it skinnable I haven't because I am
unsure of its future and the direction I want to go. MIS was originally skinnable (moreso than it is right now, as seen in Mystic 2 demo) and I want to open that up more and maybe build more of Nodespy into MIS.
People can then use the screen command to view their WFC screen when running on a system without a monitor.
Oh that reminds me, I needed a Linux/64 Netrunner with SSH support.
Fun fact: Before I ran Renegade for many years I ran WWIV briefly
and then SuperBBS from I think 1.12 to 1.17-3 until they went into
the finnish military (?). SuperBBS was the reason I joined FidoNet.
I wanted to run Telegard but the only local BBS that I knew had TG
2.5 refused to share it, and I had no idea how to get it. I thought SuperBBS was the next best BBS software at the time.
Anyway sorry for the nostalgia but seeing a SuperBBS tear line was
pretty cool (plus I've had a few drinks tonight). It really takes
me back to the days when I was learning how to use DOS.
On 02-18-20 18:21, Spectre wrote to g00r00 <=-
The BBS interprets it and sends ANSI codes
Ahhh thank-you.. so there is absolutely nothing I can do about it, and I'll pull my head back in and enjoy all the pipes and numbers :)
On 02-18-20 07:13, roovis wrote to g00r00 <=-
That guy was a jerk. TG 2.5 was my first exposure to Telegard. I
remember when I was testing BBS software, the WFC was a huge change
from what I was accustomed to with the WWIV WFC screen, which was
blank. I was wowed. Now, running Mystic under Linux, a WFC screen is a thing of the past for me... (in some ways ... sadly)
On 02-18-20 13:00, g00r00 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Most of the public BBSes in my area were dominated by QuickBBS and
clones when I first started. I have a feeling a lot of geographic
areas had a specific dominating style of software.
On 02-18-20 14:47, roovis wrote to g00r00 <=-
I run MIS as a daemon on Linux. I prefer to have as little interaction with MIS itself as possible. I like that Nodespy is a separate program.
My feeling would be to turn Nodespy into more of a complete monitoring program, not just node snooping. Make #1-9 keys run batch files, and perhaps externalize the built in terminal with Netrunner. Do one thing
and do one thing well. :)
I really need remote monitoring of WFC. Running as a daemon is great,
but my BBS machine is headless. Sure, I can run Nodespy in a SSH terminal, but I'm highly likely to forget it's there. If there was a client that could attach to the BBS over the network, then the client could set a desktop notification whenever something "interesting"
happened on the BBS (call, mailer session, etc).
I run MIS through systemd on boot as user "mystic." I monitor through mis.log and nodespy. Again, I fail to see how having everything packed into MIS is a better solution ... help me?
On 02-18-20 18:50, roovis wrote to Vk3jed <=-
My Ubuntu Server machine is headless. I think Nodespy should be that "remote monitoring" tool you're looking for. I'm not sure how you're
going to solve the issue any better by running MIS as a screen/detach
vs. running Nodespy as a screen/detach...?
If anything, you'd be able to avoid accidentally exiting/shutting down
the server.
I run MIS through systemd on boot as user "mystic." I monitor through mis.log and nodespy. Again, I fail to see how having everything packed into MIS is a better solution ... help me?
Neither option is suitable (no notifications). If the window is behind something, I might as well just not bother and only have mis running as a daemon, as I do now.
Neither option is suitable (no notifications). If the window is behi something, I might as well just not bother and only have mis running daemon, as I do now.
Notifications happen through log files, just like anything else on
Linux. MIS as a server (and like any other server) should be daemonized. We may have a difference of education/opinion on the subject. :) I think
a second program (like Nodespy) would do almost exactly what you're after... unless I'm still failing to understand something.
RA and Maximus were fairly popular down here (probably the most popular), though there was a range of software in use. I recall Searchlight, Wildcat and Opus BBSs too.
I _think_ what he's looking for is some mechanism to publish
those events on an event-bus over a network, so that for example
he could write a script or something to auto-update a status bar
in some window manager with (say) the number of logged in users.
Magicka does this with MQTT. It can publish events (in json) to an MQTT server, which you can subscribe to with MagiSpy. I don't think anyone
uses it, I don't even use it anymore, as it's mostly just reporting no body is online and when people are online, I'm not watching... so might
as well just view the last caller log :)
RA and Maximus were fairly popular down here (probably the most popular), though there was a range of software in use. I recall Searchlight, Wildcat and Opus BBSs too.
Its intersting to hear about OPUS because I don't think I ever saw someone actually running it where I lived, but maybe I was just a few years too late getting into the BBS scene to have experienced it.
Most of the public BBSes in my area were dominated by QuickBBS and clones when I first started. I have a feeling a lot of geographic areas had a specific dominating style of software.
RA and Maximus were fairly popular down here (probably the most popular), though there was a range of software in use. I recall Searchlight, Wildcat and Opus BBSs too.
Practically everything in my neck of the woods ran TriBBS, which IMy old BBS ran on TriBBS as well. I remember absolutely nothing about how I configured it though. Ran it out of my bedroom on a separate phone line :D
*think* was considered a QuickBBS clone? Never actually used QuickBBS to know.
Practically everything in my neck of the woods ran TriBBS, which I
*think* was considered a QuickBBS clone? Never actually used QuickBBS to
On 02-18-20 20:10, roovis wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Neither option is suitable (no notifications). If the window is behind something, I might as well just not bother and only have mis running as a daemon, as I do now.
Notifications happen through log files, just like anything else on
Linux. MIS as a server (and like any other server) should be
daemonized. We may have a difference of education/opinion on the
subject. :) I think a second program (like Nodespy) would do almost exactly what you're after... unless I'm still failing to understand something.
On 02-18-20 19:26, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Around the Oklahoma City area...3/4 were running Telegard...including me...then went to TAG & ended up with Renegade. Roommates were into Maximus big time...with others in the area running QBBS/RA/SBBS. The
only one running Opus was the Fidonet hub for the region.
On 02-19-20 15:34, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
You have wildly different experiences than I did... I don't know anyone that used Maximus,Searchlight or Opus.. When I opened up everything
seemed to be either RA or SuperBBS, with the odd QuickBBS still in
there.
Wasn't until around... at a guess 92-3 or so, all these other packages started turning up. And then the whole gang arrived at once, the pretty much defunct celerity, searchlight, proboard, ezycom... I might have my dating slightly out there...
On 02-18-20 23:07, Netsurge wrote to apam <=-
You could incorporate it into something like Homebridge which interacts with Apple Home. "Hey Siri, who is on the BBS". I love the idea.
You're still missing the point, log files don't have a means of getting one's attention, you still have to watch them (or have a program do
that). It won't flash an icon on the screen, pop up a dialog or
whatever.
On 02-19-20 18:45, roovis wrote to Vk3jed <=-
You're still missing the point, log files don't have a means of getting one's attention, you still have to watch them (or have a program do
that). It won't flash an icon on the screen, pop up a dialog or
whatever.
Actually, I understand exactly what you're saying. You can do that with
a log watching program. On text "Log in" or something, do something
else. Or build that into Nodespy. In ANY event, this is not the job of MIS.
Actually, I do remember using an Ezycom board too.
On 02-20-20 14:28, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Actually, I do remember using an Ezycom board too.
Slezycom was one of the last to arrive, after RA hit 2.x with the new
file formats or somesuch whatever its major upheaval was, and after SuperBBS was already a dead end.
Quite a number of locals jumped ship to ezycom, I didn't quite see the point though, it wasn't going to do anything for me that Super was
already doing. If I recall right, EzyEdit arrived slightly earlier by
the same author, Brad.
Around the Oklahoma City area...3/4 were running Telegard...including me...then went to TAG & ended up with Renegade. Roommates were intoI don't remember any Telegard systems around here.
On 02-19-20 22:58, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
They were really big here in the States. It was funny that being based
off of WWIV...there were none of those boards in our region. Was one of the 1st to run Renegade in the Oklahoma City area...then it caught on after I moved out to Arizona in late '92.
They were really big here in the States. It was funny that being base off of WWIV...there were none of those boards in our region. Was oneWWIV was also unknown here. :/
On 02-21-20 08:42, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
They were really big here in the States. It was funny that being base off of WWIV...there were none of those boards in our region. Was oneWWIV was also unknown here. :/
Now...it's being updated pretty highly & fast. From what I've
seen...very slick system the way it is now.
Phoobar, back in the day I used to be a FIDO hub for OKC area and
supplied a lot of boards from around 1990-1995, we had a 4 line POTS running Desqview, Renegade board with FD 2.02, Allfix and GEcho and two 6-CD changers, it had a couple of different names. We were actually in Blanchard but because of wide area dialing could dial OKC for free. Did you know David Ivers, AKA Dr. Death?
Now...it's being updated pretty highly & fast. From what I've seen...very slick system the way it is now.Yes, I am interested in playing with WWIV. Just another project to add
to a long list. :)
On 02-21-20 22:56, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I've gotten it about 3/4 of the way set up to run...but with everything else in life...something else caught my attention. As soon as I get
bitten again...may have to finish it up to see if I can get it running.
Phoobar wrote to Gargoyle <=-
Don't remember him. A while ago...posted a link for the 405 area codes
of BBS's. It was nice seeing people I hadn't thought of for about 30
years or so.
I've gotten it about 3/4 of the way set up to run...but with everythi else in life...something else caught my attention. As soon as I get bitten again...may have to finish it up to see if I can get it runninSounds a bit like my ADHD.... "Oooooh, squirrels!" :D :D
On 02-21-20 22:56, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I've gotten it about 3/4 of the way set up to run...but with everything
else in life...something else caught my attention. As soon as I get
bitten again...may have to finish it up to see if I can get it running.
Sounds a bit like my ADHD.... "Oooooh, squirrels!" :D :D
On 02-22-20 08:41, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I've gotten it about 3/4 of the way set up to run...but with everythi else in life...something else caught my attention. As soon as I get bitten again...may have to finish it up to see if I can get it runninSounds a bit like my ADHD.... "Oooooh, squirrels!" :D :D
Nah...OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...shiny thing!
On 02-23-20 19:09, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 02-21-20 22:56, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I've gotten it about 3/4 of the way set up to run...but with everything
else in life...something else caught my attention. As soon as I get
bitten again...may have to finish it up to see if I can get it running.
Sounds a bit like my ADHD.... "Oooooh, squirrels!" :D :D
Yeah, it's like me before I started to medicate for it. Walked out to
get the mail and came back with a ladder and no idea why. On a good
day.
I found a Fido nodelist from 1991, the year I started. I couldn't
believe how big net 125/161 was - the San Francisco/Oakland bay area.
Back then, it wouldnt fit uncompressed on a 1.2 mb floppy...
Sounds a bit like my ADHD.... "Oooooh, squirrels!" :D :DSame thing. :D
Nah...OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...shiny thing!
On 02-24-20 16:19, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Been busy yesterday & today. Got some new shiny things today since I
got my tax refunds in today. Here's what I got:
https://www.arcanoae.com/ - Got the personal version & a year extra support. https://tinyurl.com/ukj6r8x ($50 offer seller accepted)
Lenovo Thinkcentre M72e Thin Client G465 1.9GHz 8GB/4GB F/R W7SE w/
AC/DVD WiFi
It's got a BIOS & is small enough that it should work as my mess around system.
https://www.arcanoae.com/ - Got the personal version & a year extra support. https://tinyurl.com/ukj6r8x ($50 offer seller accepted) AC/DVD WiFiNice toys. :) I presume the two will be used together? ;)
It's got a BIOS & is small enough that it should work as my mess arou system.Cool. :)
On 02-24-20 20:17, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
https://www.arcanoae.com/ - Got the personal version & a year extra support. https://tinyurl.com/ukj6r8x ($50 offer seller accepted) AC/DVD WiFiNice toys. :) I presume the two will be used together? ;)
Yep. Don't know how I found these systems...but they are small enough
that I can keep it on my desk or some place close. Can even use an external laptop drive to run another drive like I do with my RPi 3B+. Don't get me wrong...but VM's are great...but for the price of systems like this...can get a bare metal system for the same price as a RPi
setup.
It's got a BIOS & is small enough that it should work as my mess arou system.Cool. :)
Eventually...we'll only see these types of boxes only in museums.
Don't get me wrong...but VM's are great...but for the price of system like this...can get a bare metal system for the same price as a RPi setup.Cool. Yes, VMs are convenient and can do a lot, but I still like bare metal, even if only a Pi, for a lot of things. :) Pity cashflow is an issue right now, otherwise I'd look at buying a couple. I have to wait until the cashflow improves.
Eventually...we'll only see these types of boxes only in museums.Well, that goes for everything, eventually. ;)
On 02-25-20 17:14, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Normally...wouldn't have considered doing this...but having put much of
it away in savings...gotta a new toy to play with.
Bad thing about these boxes is they don't include the power supply on
many of them...so you have to spend another $30-50 for one of them.
That's the cost of the system itself.
Bad thing about these boxes is they don't include the power supply on many of them...so you have to spend another $30-50 for one of them. That's
the cost of the system itself.
Bad thing about these boxes is they don't include the power supply on many
Normally...wouldn't have considered doing this...but having put much it away in savings...gotta a new toy to play with.Cool. Buying one isn't a good idea now, have to wait until finances improve.
Bad thing about these boxes is they don't include the power supply on many of them...so you have to spend another $30-50 for one of them. That's the cost of the system itself.Still a reasonably priced system.
of them...so you have to spend another $30-50 for one of them. That's the cost of the system itself.What kind of power supply are you buying? Haven't you got the drawer
with the lifetime supply of power supplies from deceased equipment and miscellaneous sources? :)
Bad thing about these boxes is they don't include the power supply onPS: I find the plugs are harder to find than a power supply.
power supply onBad thing about these boxes is they don't include the
PS: I find the plugs are harder to find than a powersupply.
True. Before I start searching...start at some of the thrift stores...since most of them have no idea what the stuff on their
shelves is really worth. For instance...found a $350 US bread maker
for $8. Still have it & use it.
ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32) * Origin: ACME BBS-I
taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)
On 02-26-20 14:47, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Fully understand. That's why I had to wait until I had a few extra
bucks. If you did what I did without a windfall like I got...I would be surprised. The thing is that I will have that system for a while.
True. Use them at work & they aren't bad systems for what they are used for. The truth is I looked at some of these weeks ago & they cost an arm/leg...but found what I got for around $30-60 US...roughly the same
as one of the Dell desktop business systems.
Gack I'm having a run on the IIe I'm a bit rusty and this isn't the software I'm used to. Good work with the bread maker. There's an odd
software I'm used to. Good work with the bread maker. There's an odd shop just down the road from here.... They never tend to have anything I want so I don't look often and it falls off my radar. Will have to make another visit.
Been playing around with ArcaOS the past couple of days in
Virtualbox. Want to find a decent terminal program which will show ANSI..rather than weird characters.
surprised. The thing is that I will have that system for a while.Yeah, well maybe next time I get a windfall. :)
They look like a nice system. I've seen similar on the market at reasonable prices from time to time. And of course, as the years go by, the specs get better. :)
mTelnet is what I used under OS/2 years ago. The mTelnet zip contains an OS/2 and Windows .exe.
I wonder if ArcaOS is using cp437 or utf-8? It it's utf-8 you'll have the same cp437 <-> utf-8 conundrum we have on linux today. Bummer that is.
On 02-26-20 22:34, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Have to remember how many times I've been sodomized by customers who do this for a hobby at least gives me something to enjoy in my spare time.
Oh yeah! That's the good thing about these systems is not having the
money when they were brand new means I can have them now. Must be the retro in me.
Have to remember how many times I've been sodomized by customers who this for a hobby at least gives me something to enjoy in my spare timHaha I thought those BBSs were long gone. ;)
money when they were brand new means I can have them now. Must be the retro in me.Yeah, and they are still good for many things, especially when it comes
to BBSing. :)
On 02-27-20 08:48, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
My actual users are pretty good. No problems at all. On the other hand...where I work in retail...screw them. Gotta head back into work & probably get written up for leaving in the middle of my shift.
Am 1 of those into retro gaming as well. Never had many of the systems back in the day due to money...so getting my hands on them now for free/close enough to it...a dream come true.
hand...where I work in retail...screw them. Gotta head back into work probably get written up for leaving in the middle of my shift.Haha I was just having a lend of you. ;)
That's unless you count my running around doing things that are derived from (mostly) ancient Greek Olympics of over 2000 years ago. Though unlike the Greeks, I am dressed when I do it. :D
On 02-28-20 23:42, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Another thing...my former manager came up to me today at work to ask if
I wanted to do more shifts on the front end for more hours. Told her
after the way I was treated the other day that my mental health
couldn't take that again. Told my boss that the best thing is not to
put myself into a situation like that again for just money.
That's unless you count my running around doing things that are derived from (mostly) ancient Greek Olympics of over 2000 years ago. Though unlike the Greeks, I am dressed when I do it. :D
Sorry that you don't believe what Ralph Mouph from Happy Days said in a movie he did...when in doubt...whip it out. ;)
They are an external brick at 19 W. They mentioned that the systems worked with some bricks...but not others.
Been playing around with ArcaOS the past couple of days in Virtualbox. Want to find a decent terminal program which will show ANSI..rather
than weird characters.
Got my router & DSL/Motorola modems for around $15 from the local thrift store chains. Some good for clothes & some good for our toys.
couldn't take that again. Told my boss that the best thing is not to put myself into a situation like that again for just money.That's fair enough. I don't do front of house type work myself for similar reasons.
Sorry that you don't believe what Ralph Mouph from Happy Days said in movie he did...when in doubt...whip it out. ;)Hahaha. :D
I just wonder if thats meant to be volts, not Watts.. I picked up some 12-24v 65W supplies not that long ago... months... for erm... $15 each
or something similar, might've been a bit less..
There is a split in Apple II land as to what happens. I'm guessing its the extended set we're talking about. Some proggy's display the native block character of which there is only one... and others strip the high bit off and display whatever character that comes out to be. A good
VT-100 job ought to be at least usable.
Got my router & DSL/Motorola modems for around $15 from the local thr store chains. Some good for clothes & some good for our toys.Ours are a dime a dozen on routers and related.. I wouldn't be surprised if they refuse to take them. I have no idea how they buy them in, but they sit forever... Bought the odd toys for grandkids, tend to leave
the clothes along though.
On 03-01-20 22:39, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I do deal with the public...but I actually have free run of the
premises to help others with issues...unless I'm needing to mix
something at the station. Hell of a difference in not being tied down & micromanaged like on the front end.
Sorry that you don't believe what Ralph Mouph from Happy Days said in movie he did...when in doubt...whip it out. ;)Hahaha. :D
Remember seeing a dog do a demonstration on someone's leg once. It was funny. Not sure if I could get away with that.
Remember seeing a dog do a demonstration on someone's leg once. It wa funny. Not sure if I could get away with that.Haha wouldn't be a good look! :D
On 03-03-20 12:48, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Remember seeing a dog do a demonstration on someone's leg once. It wa funny. Not sure if I could get away with that.Haha wouldn't be a good look! :D
Personally...I think it would be a great look only IF I had enough time
to write my name on their leg...just like we do in the snow. ;)
Personally...I think it would be a great look only IF I had enough ti to write my name on their leg...just like we do in the snow. ;)Haha they might not be so impressed with your skills. :D
On 03-03-20 16:42, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Personally...I think it would be a great look only IF I had enough ti to write my name on their leg...just like we do in the snow. ;)Haha they might not be so impressed with your skills. :D
Skills/talents...forgot to mention I'd be doing it in Cyrillic in pre-revolutionary Russian. Told you have have "marketable" skills. ;)
Skills/talents...forgot to mention I'd be doing it in Cyrillic in pre-revolutionary Russian. Told you have have "marketable" skills. ;)Only for _pissing_ off the Russians! :D
On 03-03-20 20:41, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Skills/talents...forgot to mention I'd be doing it in Cyrillic in pre-revolutionary Russian. Told you have have "marketable" skills. ;)Only for _pissing_ off the Russians! :D
Somebody's gotta do it.
Only for _pissing_ off the Russians! :DI'm sure many are. ;)
Somebody's gotta do it.
On 03-04-20 21:03, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Only for _pissing_ off the Russians! :DI'm sure many are. ;)
Somebody's gotta do it.
We all have to have hobbies.
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