Ok, I think the server is up and stable.

At: tlp.zapto.org:27960

It has 6 maps that rotate on 15 kills or 20 Minutes

Maps and some other goodies are available at, tlp.zapto.org/QIII links off the web page.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/101)

Big Al,

Have you got a copy of the q3la, log analyzer? I can google references to it, and installations putting out stats or demos. But can't find a download for it anywhere.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/101)

Have you got a copy of the q3la, log analyzer? I can google references to it, and installations putting out stats or demos. But
can't find a download for it anywhere.

Is this what you are looking for?

https://en.ds-servers.com/files/gf/104670

//ToTAL

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: ToTAL LoST BBS (21:4/136)

Have you got a copy of the q3la, log analyzer? I can google references to it, and installations putting out stats or demos.
But can't find a download for it anywhere.

I don't think I do. You might find it, or something like it here..

http://ioquake3.org/files

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Is this what you are looking for? https://en.ds-servers.com/files/gf/104670

Yes and no... thats only the win32 doohickey.. going to need a *nix version. Either a binary or something that will compile. Nice try thanks.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

I don't think I do. You might find it, or something like it here..

I found a copy, but it doesn't want to compile :/

c++ -Wall -O2 -D__LINUX_PLATFORM__ -c analyzelog.cpp -o analyzelog.o
In file included from analyzelog.cpp:1:0:
q3la.h:22:22: fatal error: iostream.h: No such file or directory
#include <iostream.h>
^
compilation terminated.

Haven't had a chance to look into it to hard yet.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Heads up message...

The map mxl_school is absolutely monstrous in size. Nice looking map too, but it requires a couple of boots full of memory. You'll need to allocate more hunkmegs to get it to load.

This can be done in the cfg file somehow if you work that one out let me now. Or by adding "+set com_hunkmegs 256" to the command line that starts your client.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

The map mxl_school is absolutely monstrous in size. Nice looking map
too, but it requires a couple of boots full of memory. You'll need to allocate more hunkmegs to get it to load.

This can be done in the cfg file somehow if you work that one out let
me now. Or by adding "+set com_hunkmegs 256" to the command line that starts your client.

Load it up in ioquake3 and away you go.. I took a walk through there ealier today.. :)

Are you doing something different with your messages? I see ~M in column 1 of all but the first line of your message for that past day or three.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Are you doing something different with your messages? I see ~M in
column 1 of all but the first line of your message for that past day
or three.

Ahh no, is anyone else seeing that? The whole way down the message?

I don't see anything locally when reading back through the base, only thing after that might be FastEcho for some reason?

Spec

--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Are you doing something different with your messages? I see ~M in
column 1 of all but the first line of your message for that past
day or three.

Ahh no, is anyone else seeing that? The whole way down the message?

Yes, except for the first line. Not sure what others see..

I don't see anything locally when reading back through the base, only thing after that might be FastEcho for some reason?

I got two copies of the message I am replying to. The first had the ~M and the second didn't. I dunno why that would be.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Spectre,

@TZUTC: 1100
@NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 a00000
@TID: FastEcho 1.46.1 43276

Are you doing something different with your messages? I see ~M in
column 1 of all but the first line of your message for that past
day or three.

Ahh no, is anyone else seeing that? The whole way down the message?

I don't see anything locally when reading back through the base, only thing after that might be FastEcho for some reason?

Spec

SEEN-BY: 1/100 2/100 3/100 101 104 4/10 100 101 102 103 104 105 106
107 108
SEEN-BY: 4/109 110 111 112 113 114 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124
125 126
SEEN-BY: 4/128 129 131 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 141 143 144 145 146
147 148
SEEN-BY: 4/150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 @PATH: 3/101 100 4/100

This is the first one I recieved. It has the ~M.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Spectre,

@TZUTC: 1100
@NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 a00000
@TID: FastEcho 1.46.1 43276

Are you doing something different with your messages? I see ~M in
column 1 of all but the first line of your message for that past
day or three.

Ahh no, is anyone else seeing that? The whole way down the message?

I don't see anything locally when reading back through the base, only thing after that might be FastEcho for some reason?

Spec

SEEN-BY: 1/100 2/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112
113 114
SEEN-BY: 2/115 116 118 119 120 121 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131
132 133
SEEN-BY: 2/134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148
150 151
SEEN-BY: 2/152 153 154 155 156 157 1202 3/100 101 104 4/10 100 101 102
103 104
SEEN-BY: 4/105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 116 117 118 119 120
121 122
SEEN-BY: 4/123 124 125 126 128 129 131 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 141
143 144
SEEN-BY: 4/145 146 147 148 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160
161 162
SEEN-BY: 4/163 164
@PATH: 3/101 100 2/100 4/100

And I also got this one, without a ~M.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Are you doing something different with your messages? I see ~M in

I got two copies of the message I am replying to. The first had the ~M and

Here is my only theory... I edited one message locally after posting it. Perhaps you got a pre and post edit somehow. Or somehow FastEcho found a deleted version? Shrug, no real idea.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

And I also got this one, without a ~M.

Shrug, when they come back I can't seee any difference.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

And I also got this one, without a ~M.

Shrug, when they come back I can't seee any difference.

What do you mean when they come back?

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Re: Quake III Server
By: Spectre to Al on Thu Dec 05 2019 03:58 pm

Are you doing something different with your messages? I see ~M in
column 1 of all but the first line of your message for that past day
or three.

Ahh no, is anyone else seeing that? The whole way down the message?

I havent seen it?
...����

... Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect.
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)

Every time I've looked in its quiet, although I've seen evidence at times of having just missed someone. I think we need a signalling system, maybe something like a mailing-list, so you can punt off a message and anyones who's free will know theres something happenings.

Ideas?

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/101)

After some looking into the q3la compile error, I have it compile and apparently running. However I ran into a problem I used to have, and have no idea how to fix.

The ioquake3 server isn't generating any log file. Despite have set

seta g_log "/home/ioquake3/games.log"
seta g_logSync "1"
seta log_default "1"
seta log_stat "1"

And the idea that it is meant to be generating a log anyway somewhere. There is
nothing, nada, zip. Hard to generate stats with no log.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/101)

Ok, I think the server is up and stable.

At: tlp.zapto.org:27960

It has 6 maps that rotate on 15 kills or 20 Minutes

Maps and some other goodies are available at, tlp.zapto.org/QIII links
off the web page.

Spec

Was able to connect today! Unfortunately from my location latency is over 300ms, so I don't think I'll do too well :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Stellar Darkness BBS, Toronto, Canada (21:4/162)

I ended up locating the missing log, ignoring all its directives, buried in the
home directorys in a .q3a directory. So the lost is found.


tlp.zapto.org/QIII

- Maps required to play the server.

- Some extra skins and models.

- Sadistics, anywhere else this would be Statistics.

Stats pages are there, thus far they're empty. We need to get a few battles in to get some in there. Everything else works, or is there for extra information.

Enjoy! Spec.


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Was able to connect today! Unfortunately from my location latency
is over 300ms, so I don't think I'll do too well :)

Low 300's isn't tooo bad... closer to 400 not so much fun. You know what they say, you gotta be in it to win it :)

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: <Shoot'n the breeze on The Lower Planes> (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

@TZUTC: 1100
@NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 a00000
@TID: FastEcho 1.46.1 43276
Every time I've looked in its quiet, although I've seen evidence at
times of having just missed someone. I think we need a signalling
system, maybe something like a mailing-list, so you can punt off a
message and anyones who's free will know theres something happenings.

This is another one with the soft CRs. They get moved around when quoted but the 0x8D in your post all show up here in column 1.

SEEN-BY: 1/100 2/100 3/100 101 104 4/10 100 101 102 103 104 105 106
107 108
SEEN-BY: 4/109 110 111 112 113 114 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124
125 126
SEEN-BY: 4/128 129 131 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 141 143 144 145 146
147 148
SEEN-BY: 4/150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 @PATH: 3/101 100 4/100

So they travel from you, to your link, to 4/100 and here unaltered as they should. At some point I'll tell golded to ignore those soft CRs.

I'm hoping to get another copy of this message without the soft CRs. If that happens it'll give me the facts I need.

Sorry all for rambling on about this. I'd like to get to the bottom of it.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Spectre,

@TZUTC: 1100
@NOTE: IceEdit 2.35 a00000
@TID: FastEcho 1.46.1 43276
Every time I've looked in its quiet, although I've seen evidence at
times of having just missed someone. I think we need a signalling
system, maybe something like a mailing-list, so you can punt off a
message and anyones who's free will know theres something happenings.

This is a second copy of the last message. No soft CRs here.

SEEN-BY: 1/100 2/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112
113 114
SEEN-BY: 2/115 116 118 119 120 121 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131
132 133
SEEN-BY: 2/134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148
150 151
SEEN-BY: 2/152 153 154 155 156 157 1202 3/100 101 104 4/10 100 101 102
103 104
SEEN-BY: 4/105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 116 117 118 119 120
121 122
SEEN-BY: 4/123 124 125 126 128 129 131 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 141
143 144
SEEN-BY: 4/145 146 147 148 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160
161 162
SEEN-BY: 4/163 164
@PATH: 3/101 100 2/100 4/100

This message traveled from you, to your link, to 2/100, to 4/100 and here.

So it looks to me that Mystic (in this case 2/100) stripped the 0x8D and so it was not trapped as a dupe either at 4/100 or here.

If there was a MSGID in play it may (or may not because of the change) have been trapped as a dupe.

Can someone confirm or deny my thoughts on this?

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Spectre,

The ioquake3 server isn't generating any log file. Despite have set

I know nothing about server setup so I have no ideas I can pass your way.

I had a quick look on the web and saw some server setup help at quake3world.com
that might be helpfull.

There is a wiki at wiki.ioquake3.org that I am sure would be helpfull but it seems to be down at the moment. I hope they can get it back online.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello lemonlime,

Was able to connect today! Unfortunately from my location latency is
over 300ms, so I don't think I'll do too well :)

When I was on there the other day I had to be carefull how I timed discharge of
my rocket launcher. It takes a little adjusting but once I made those adjustments it made a difference.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Spectre,

- Some extra skins and models.

I think I have the maps ready here but I'm not sure about the skins and models.
Is there a .pk3 for those?

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

seta g_log "/home/ioquake3/games.log"
seta g_logSync "1"
seta log_default "1"
seta log_stat "1"

Is `/home/ioquake3/` a directory that already exists, and is owned by
whatever user is trying to launch it?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: monterey bbs (21:1/168)

- Some extra skins and models.

I think I have the maps ready here but I'm not sure about the skins
and models. Is there a .pk3 for those?

Its a raft of .pk3 files stuck in a .zip file. They're all marvel skins actually. The extra model is Conni, who's needed for black widow and someone else, not sure who...

Seeing as .pk3 files are just renamed .zip files already, it should be possible
to merge them all into 1 .pk3 file but thats for another day.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

seta g_log "/home/ioquake3/games.log" seta g_logSync "1" seta log_default "1" seta log_stat "1"

Is `/home/ioquake3/` a directory that already exists, and is owned

Actually it wasn't... it was still owned by root. The log file ended up in /root/.q3a/home/games.log Strange place but I didn't find it until I went
a "du -a |grep games"

Its been modified now so that ioquake is a user and owns all of that mess, so that games.log is closer to home. And I've made a link to the baseq3 dir where the .q3la binary is.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Its a raft of .pk3 files stuck in a .zip file. They're all marvel
skins actually. The extra model is Conni, who's needed for black widow
and someone else, not sure who...

I'll take a look at the web page and see if I can get them in place before we go again.

Seeing as .pk3 files are just renamed .zip files already, it should be possible to merge them all into 1 .pk3 file but thats for another day.

It would be a good thing if you can send files a bit more quickly if bandwidth is available. There will likely always be needed files..

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

It would be a good thing if you can send files a bit more quickly if bandwidth is available. There will likely always be needed files..

Well I've cranked it up. But I don't know what the setting is actually doing...
it was set at 8000, now its at 20000, but someone will need to pull maps out to see what kind of speed it allows.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

server.cfg

The server rate appears to be a decimalised value of bytes. Increasing it from 8000 to 20000 gave me a transfer rate over LAN of some 20Kb/s however lifting it to 50000 has only got it doing ~30Kb/s so maybe its capped somewhere or in much larger numbers its not a linear progression.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Well I've cranked it up. But I don't know what the setting is actually doing... it was set at 8000, now its at 20000, but someone will need
to pull maps out to see what kind of speed it allows.

This post from the reader has soft CRs in column 1.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Spectre,

The server rate appears to be a decimalised value of bytes. Increasing
it from 8000 to 20000 gave me a transfer rate over LAN of some 20Kb/s however lifting it to 50000 has only got it doing ~30Kb/s so maybe
its capped somewhere or in much larger numbers its not a linear progression.

This one does have soft CRs although not in column 1, they are at the end of the line.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Low 300's isn't tooo bad... closer to 400 not so much fun. You know what they say, you gotta be in it to win it :)

Reminds me of the good ol' dialup internet days playing the original quake. We'd call the ISDN users with 80ms "LPBs" (low ping bastards)

I remember the best I could get was about 125ms on 56K dialup. When I'd frag the ISDN guys I'd claim pure skill as the reason :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Stellar Darkness BBS, Toronto, Canada (21:4/162)

When I was on there the other day I had to be carefull how I timed discharge of my rocket launcher. It takes a little adjusting but once I made those adjustments it made a difference.. :)

Haha yeah, I noticed that I'd launch a grenade and then walk right into it :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Stellar Darkness BBS, Toronto, Canada (21:4/162)

Re: Quake III Server
By: Al to Spectre on Thu Dec 05 2019 05:22 pm

164 @PATH: 3/101 100 4/100

So they travel from you, to your link, to 4/100 and here unaltered as they should. At some point I'll tell golded to ignore those soft CRs.

So from 3/100->4/100 the messages are OK?

So if I put a hold on sending directly to 4/100, you'll get the message via 1/100 or 2/100 (both mystic), and that should confirm if mystic is part of the issue.
...����

... A specified environmental conditions will always be exceeded.
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)

Hello Alterego,

So they travel from you, to your link, to 4/100 and here
unaltered as they should. At some point I'll tell golded to
ignore those soft CRs.

So from 3/100->4/100 the messages are OK?

Yes, they are unaltered on that path.

So if I put a hold on sending directly to 4/100, you'll get the
message via 1/100 or 2/100 (both mystic), and that should confirm if mystic is part of the issue.

Yes, in that case everyone should get just one copy of the message with the soft CR removed, but that's OK.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Reminds me of the good ol' dialup internet days playing the original

Yup, it was a bit like being a mobile target.. hard to hit anything though.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Given the somewhat ubiquitous nature of the Q3 Engine. I discovered something i
thought odd. There's no Q3 on the PS4. Only thing that made me look was #1 son suddenly got a bit interested because I've been playing around with it, and
that startup is quite unique. :)

Will have to pop some kind of PC back together for them to play with for a bit.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Alrighty, heres my new theory, how about trying to set a time where most people
are free for an hour or so for a crack. I'm guessing probably a Saturday some
time in Aus, that'll make it a Friday some time for everyone else. So.. anyone thats interested reply with a Day/Timing that works for you, and at your
Timezone we'll try and figure out a relatively common time or two, for the heres and theres to meet up.

I'm good almost any time, so long as I'm functioning well :) But I'll start the
list anyway

Quake Alias Day Time Timezone -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spectre Daddi-OH Friday/Saturday 18:00 UTC +11


Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

I'm good almost any time, so long as I'm functioning well :) But I'll start the list anyway

I think that is 11:00 PM here. I'm not working ATM so just about any time is OK. Once I get back to work I'd be available a couple hours later if I'm on the
same shift.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

start the list anyway

I think that is 11:00 PM here. I'm not working ATM so just about any time is OK. Once I get back to work I'd be available a couple hours later if I'm on the same shift.

That doesn't help the LIST much :P It's not meant to be a hard and fast, I'm looking for a common time for most, or maybe a couple of times for different people.

So bang up a time and a UTC.. :)

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Have you got a time thats good for having a crack at Q3? Fri or Sat??

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

That doesn't help the LIST much :P It's not meant to be a hard and
fast, I'm looking for a common time for most, or maybe a couple of
times for different people.

Yeah, my schedule is non existant. I'm in and out all the time currently.

So bang up a time and a UTC.. :)

I'll work on something. I'm going to go have a look now and see if anyone's about.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Spectre,

Just got off the server after a few rounds.. That was fun.. :)

The guys at lvlworld.com just put out a map pack to mark 20 years for lvlworld.com. It's a big DL, about 330MB, but that pack looks good and would add a nice variety to the rotation.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Well that was interesting.....

ioquake seems to have some foibles.

Its not passing client info onto other clients.

The logging may not be quite standard for Q3LA to work with.

Is it my imagination or did it also throw everyone off at the end?

There are some stats on the stats page now... weirdly only Heretic and Dem good
ol' boys.... I got lost somewhere....

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Well that was interesting.....

ioquake seems to have some foibles.

They're everywhere!

Its not passing client info onto other clients.

The logging may not be quite standard for Q3LA to work with.

Is it my imagination or did it also throw everyone off at the
end?

I left after the last map timed out, I wasn't thrown off.

There are some stats on the stats page now... weirdly only Heretic and
Dem good ol' boys.... I got lost somewhere....

Not sure why that would be.

Of interest to the /100 nodes..

I recieved a dupe of this message. The original path was 3/101 100 4/100, and then a dupe via 3/101 100 2/100 and 4/100. The second one had the soft CRs removed.


Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

The guys at lvlworld.com just put out a map pack to mark 20 years
for lvlworld.com. It's a big DL, about 330MB, but that pack looks
good and would add a nice variety to the rotation.

At the moment I'm more worried about the stuff that isn't working properly, like user models and skins... any why bots are borked. I can't find anything solid about any of that, other than there have been bot problems with ioquake, its very hard to any solutions.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

any why bots are borked.

Was Good 'ol boy a bot, or a real person?

Why do you say that bots are borked?

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

ioquake seems to have some foibles.

They're everywhere!

Seems like it might be easier to install *nix 32, and run with the original pointreleases. ioquake seems ok, but I dunno, from the server side, there's a lot of problems I've never seen before, and precious little information.

The old ID binaries used to just work. Might see what I can so with the Sophos box, its probably my least power hungry box to install some thing 32bit on.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Was Good 'ol boy a bot, or a real person?

Why do you say that bots are borked?

Good ol' boy was #1 son... Teono..

If I start bots they fail to load properly and crash the server

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

If I start bots they fail to load properly and crash the server

I'm not sure about a quake 3 server, or really any game server but I have been thinking on (as poindexter FORTRAN) mentioned an openarea server. Openarena is completely free for anyone to use. It is one of the games I play from time to time. I like Quake 3 also, very much but folks need to own it to play.

There is also UrbanTerror. It started out as a Q3 mod but is now a stand alone game that uses a modified ioquake3 engine. It is also completely free and fun to play.

Assaultcube is also on my list. It is completely free and fun to play. It's not
related to Q3 although it might seem that way it has it's roots in the cube engine.

It's possible if you look at the way UrbanTerror works you can make Q3 work that way also but I'm not sure just how different they are.

It's possible I could look into an OA, UT or AC server myself at some point but
I have too much on my plate ATM.

Just some thoughts I needed to get out.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Have you got a time thats good for having a crack at Q3? Fri or
Sat??

I'm not sure, my wife starts her holidays on Saturday so it will depend
on what she wants to do. Perhaps make a time that suits you and
advertise it like those MRC meetups. It might be you sitting on an empty
map for 30 minutes or whatever, but at least if people do join then they
wont be alone and more likely to come back next time.

I'll try and make it when your time is but can't make any promises.

Andrew

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand - telnet://magickabbs.com:2023/ (21:1/126)

I'm not sure about a quake 3 server, or really any game server but
I have been thinking on (as poindexter FORTRAN) mentioned an
openarea server. Openarena is completely free for anyone to use. It
is one of the games I play from time to time. I like Quake 3 also,
very much but folks need to own it to play.

I don't think so. If you've got any of the "open" clients, they should so far as I can see still be able to connect to the ID server so long as, I disable punkbuster on the server, and you have the right point release, which will be 1.32

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

on what she wants to do. Perhaps make a time that suits you and
advertise it like those MRC meetups. It might be you sitting on an empty map for 30 minutes or whatever, but at least if people do join then they wont be alone and more likely to come back next time.

Thats not a bad idea, trying to get an idea of when others might be able to play was to see if we can massage a time that might work better for more players. You're not going to be first against the wall when the revolution if you pop up a time now, and it turns out, its a completely different time that suits in the end.

Keep SWMBO happy, thats important :)

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

I don't think so. If you've got any of the "open" clients, they
should so far as I can see still be able to connect to the ID server
so long as, I disable punkbuster on the server, and you have the right point release, which will be 1.32

Yep, they do. I only have ioquake3 here being on linux. It is right up to date.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Yep, they do. I only have ioquake3 here being on linux. It is right
up to date.

Have a crack, its a mirror image of the ioquake server, but its running q3ded from the ID release. You'll find if you're on your own you'll get 2 bots to play with.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Have a crack, its a mirror image of the ioquake server, but its
running q3ded from the ID release. You'll find if you're on your own you'll get 2 bots to play with.

It's connecting but I'm not able to get a game going. It just says awaiting challenge 1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. 5..

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

It's connecting but I'm not able to get a game going. It just says awaiting challenge 1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. 5..

Ahhh yeah sorry. I had the box in the Boudoir hitched up to the TV. The remotes power doesn't work so without thinking about it, I turned it off at the
power board :/ I've set it up next to the server so its all safe and running again now.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Ahhh yeah sorry. I had the box in the Boudoir hitched up to the TV.
The remotes power doesn't work so without thinking about it, I turned
it off at the power board :/ I've set it up next to the server so its
all safe and running again now.

I'm getting further. It looks like the game has just finished a map and is going to start up another, but it doesn't.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Is it my imagination or has the ID server got stuck and not rotating maps?

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Seems like the random factors are aligning against the Sophos box and the ID q3ded.

First up is the strange reason that the ID server has stopped cycling maps, and is in fact stuck at end of the first map.

Second up is an issue with Ubuntu 14.04 x32 in which it refuses access by telnet or ssh. The ports are open, initially putty will connect and ask for confirmation of the key, to which you answer yes, and the remote disconnects you there and then and forever after. UFW is disabled. IP tables policy is to accept everything, and there are no rules in place. (boggle)

I haven't gotten a round-tuit yet, but I'm going to have to keyboard and monitot the sophos box until I can get that sorted, and also see if I can't get
it map cycling via the console. In the mean time, I've opened up an extra port and both servers are available to any possible comparisons.

Soooooo we have ID q3ded on port 5000
IOquake on port 29760

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Is it my imagination or has the ID server got stuck and not rotating
maps?

That seems to be the case.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

I'm getting further. It looks like the game has just finished a map and is going to start up another, but it doesn't.

Got that sorted.... I had duplicate ip addresses which is what was stopping ssh/telnet, but oddly enough not q3. And the map rotation failure was a strange cropping in the map.cfg file, it cut all the right most characters off,
so no following map was set at all.

So now it should be flying, the botless ioquake on 27960 and with 2 bots ID server on 5000.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Have you had any joy having a peek at both servers? I think plus bots is better
for the times when theres no one about, and there's only 3.. still...

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Have you had any joy having a peek at both servers? I think plus bots
is better for the times when theres no one about, and there's only 3.. still...

On my first try on port 5000 I did have a round with bots a few days ago. Since
then I can't seem to connect on port 5000. I just get awaiting challenge.. 1..
2.. 3.. 4.. 5..

I can connect fine on the other one but don't see folks there often.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

On my first try on port 5000 I did have a round with bots a few days
ago. Since then I can't seem to connect on port 5000. I just get
awaiting challenge.. 1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. 5..

Hmm ok, let me check it out. I can only guess either sophos has fallen over or q3ded has.. No, its running locally, strange.. I did have to beat the router with a 2x4 let me check that again. Dunno, I've reset it.. I should find something more reliable.

My ISP saddled me with a TP-LINK Archer router. It appears to be a good boat anchor all sorts of things fail on it, it loses its www interface, the wifi stops accepting new connections...

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

The ioquake3 server isn't generating any log file. Despite have set

I know nothing about server setup so I have no ideas I can pass your
way.

I had a quick look on the web and saw some server setup help at quake3world.com
that might be helpfull.

There is a wiki at wiki.ioquake3.org that I am sure would be helpfull
but it
seems to be down at the moment. I hope they can get it back online.

Ttyl :-),

'Lemme know if you need any config files. I have a working Q3 server that I used to run and it was open for anyone to play on.


--- NiKom v2.5.0
* Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (21:2/130.0)

Alrighty, the old ID q3ded server seems fine and dandy with no hiccoughs so I think I'm going to leave that in play and take down the ioquake one. So that there are at least some functional bots to play with if you come looking for a game.

Al, you want a lot more maps in the rotation?

Anyone else have further ideas?

Once I shutdown the ioquake server, I'll need to rejig the statistics files to look at the right log file.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Alrighty, the old ID q3ded server seems fine and dandy with no
hiccoughs so I think I'm going to leave that in play and take down
the ioquake one. So that there are at least some functional bots
to play with if you come looking for a game.

I can't connect there for some reason. I did play a few rounds againt the
bots I think but I haven't be able to connect.

Al, you want a lot more maps in the rotation?

A few more would be good, you'd need to put some thought into which ones. Ironyard perhaps, Solitude, Gloom, Annihilation.. I have more.. :)

Once I shutdown the ioquake server, I'll need to rejig the
statistics files to look at the right log file.

That's the only one I can connect too..

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

I can't connect there for some reason. I did play a few rounds againt
the bots I think but I haven't be able to connect.

Try it again, I've played with its config a little, and for giggles taken ioquake out for the moment.

ones. Ironyard perhaps, Solitude, Gloom, Annihilation..

Have to say I dont know any of these, do you have them somewhere? One of the others I used to have was flying plutonians.. Its taking a while for my memory to kick in on the ones I'm missing.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

Try it again, I've played with its config a little, and for giggles
taken ioquake out for the moment.

Ahh.. good stuff.. I was just on there with the bots.

ones. Ironyard perhaps, Solitude, Gloom, Annihilation..

Have to say I dont know any of these, do you have them somewhere? One
of the others I used to have was flying plutonians.. Its taking a
while for my memory to kick in on the ones I'm missing.

Those are all highly rated, by me at least.. ;)

Do you have an ftp server or BBS or email where I can upload/send them?

A search on lvlworld.com will turn them up for you quickly also.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Hello Spectre,

ones. Ironyard perhaps, Solitude, Gloom, Annihilation..

Have to say I dont know any of these, do you have them somewhere? One
of the others I used to have was flying plutonians.. Its taking a
while for my memory to kick in on the ones I'm missing.

I haven't yet put them on the BBS but I have an ftp server you are welcome to look through at ftp://trmb.ca. Switch to the local directory, then to the doom,
quake, unreal or quake3 directories. IIRC those files are in there along with a bunch more.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

I haven't yet put them on the BBS but I have an ftp server you are
welcome to look through at ftp://trmb.ca. Switch to the local
directory, then to the doom, quake, unreal or quake3 directories.
IIRC those files are in there along with a bunch more.

Will stick my nose in, otherwise, I'm at..

ftp tlp.zapto.org
sysop@tlp.zapto.org

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: A camel is a horse, designed by a committee! (21:3/101)

It doesn't look like anyone remembers or wants to use the QIII server, and �I'm
in the process of rationalising some of my power consumption. So its �looking like I'll be taking it down.

Any last requests or pleas? Its still sitting on tlp at the default Q3 port.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: (21:3/101)

Hello Spectre,

It doesn't look like anyone remembers or wants to use the QIII server,
and I'm in the process of rationalising some of my power consumption.
So its looking like I'll be taking it down.

Any last requests or pleas? Its still sitting on tlp at the default
Q3 port.

I do like to have a round of doom or q3 from time to time.

Whether or not you want to to run a dedicated server is a choice you make I suppose. Perhaps you could bring it up from time to time if we come up with a time to play?

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

I do like to have a round of doom or q3 from time to time.

I might have a look at alternatives again, none of which seemed stable last �time around. I put a veriton back in business with x32 on it to run the old �ID linux binary. Maybe try another VM on sabretooth..

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Spectre wrote:

It doesn't look like anyone remembers or wants to use the QIII server, and

ìI'm in the process of rationalising some of my power consumption. So its ìlooking like I'll be taking it down.

Any last requests or pleas? Its still sitting on tlp at the default Q3

port.

Spec

--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: (21:3/101)

I never got into Q3. I used to play a lot of Q2 Thunderwalker CTF. I had a
clan which was virtually unbeatable. Loved the grapple and the rail gun!
--- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
* Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (21:2/101)

I never got into Q3. I used to play a lot of Q2 Thunderwalker CTF. I
had a clan which was virtually unbeatable. Loved the grapple

Strange, if I recall right, and I didn't mess with 1 or 2 for very long, I thought 2 was a rather sad beast.. each to their own as they say. I didn't �move into quake until the RIVA TNT chip set came along, so I got to look at �both pretty much at the same time. 1 seemed to play better to me. Never �played it multiplayer though.

Spec


--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: (21:3/101)