• QR Scanner

    From Blue White@21:4/134 to Solaris on Saturday, November 20, 2021 10:09:23
    Solaris wrote to All <=-

    QR scanners at all public places

    What is a QR scanner? I thought they were for barcodes but apparently I am mixing that up with something else.



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  • From Tiny@21:1/222 to Blue White on Saturday, November 20, 2021 11:49:22
    What is a QR scanner? I thought they were for barcodes but apparently
    I am mixing that up with something else.

    That's what it is... You know those square QR codes that advertisers use
    on a bus or taxi so you can download their app? That's what it is.

    Here in Ontario if we want to eat in a restaurant (as an example) we have
    to show proof of double vax. They made it easy for us by allowing us to download a QR code and when the restaurant scans it it displays our name
    and our status. If name matches ID we may eat inside. If you choose not
    to get vaxed you may still order take out.

    I don't discuss my beliefs or weather or not I have a QR code on a BBS.
    Just letting you know how things in Ontario, Canada are.

    Shawn


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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Blue White on Saturday, November 20, 2021 16:25:46
    On 20 Nov 2021, Tiny said the following...

    What is a QR scanner? I thought they were for barcodes but apparently
    I am mixing that up with something else.

    That's what it is... You know those square QR codes that advertisers use on a bus or taxi so you can download their app? That's what it is.

    Yup, exact same thing. Here's one that take's you to Agency's website:

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    Here in Ontario if we want to eat in a restaurant (as an example) we have to show proof of double vax. They made it easy for us by allowing us to download a QR code and when the restaurant scans it it displays our name and our status. If name matches ID we may eat inside.

    Just had to show our proof of vaccination for lunch this afternoon, it's an easy process that takes less than 30 seconds. There were others that chose to eat in their cars out front, but there was also limited eating inside.


    Jay

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Warpslide on Sunday, November 21, 2021 05:51:31
    Re: Re: QR Scanner
    By: Warpslide to Blue White on Sat Nov 20 2021 04:25 pm

    Just had to show our proof of vaccination for lunch this afternoon, it's an easy process that takes less than 30 seconds. There were others that chose eat in their cars out front, but there was also limited eating inside.


    With what we currently know, I think it is still not very wise to eat in an enclosed space full of people regardless of the number of jabs somebody has taken, at least for the time being.

    It sucks to own a restaurant, but my friends and I are not taking any chances there. If we really want a meeting we can either eat outside or move to a place in which we are the only people - so risks are greatly reduced.

    The QR solution is extremely dangerous. If it is designed as it should, the scanner uses the QR to query a database for your ID and status. Everytime an scanner queries for such information, the operator of the database knows where you are. If the QR is not designed as it should, it contains your ID and information and it is falsifiable - hence pretty much useless except as a pacification device. I somehow suspect if they are doing the latter approach they are not bothering with signing the QR digitally, which would have its own problems.

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Sunday, November 21, 2021 10:31:00
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Saturday 20.11.21 - 16:25, Warpslide wrote to Blue White:

    Here in Ontario if we want to eat in a restaurant (as an example) we
    have to show proof of double vax. They made it easy for us by allowing
    us to download a QR code and when the restaurant scans it it displays
    our name and our status. If name matches ID we may eat inside.

    Just had to show our proof of vaccination for lunch this afternoon, it's
    an easy process that takes less than 30 seconds. There were others that chose to eat in their cars out front, but there was also limited eating inside.

    The rules are pathetic. One cafe in Bancroft got a visit from
    "officials". The rule was explained this way:

    [o] if a customer enters, sits down, places an order, and is
    SERVED AT THE TABLE, then vaxx status must be verified and
    copacetic.

    [o] if a customer enters, goes to the cash/counter, places an
    order, sits down, goes to the counter to pick up order, then
    that is considered take out and requires no QR/vaxx
    verification. The customer could even choose to eat the order
    on location, and that would still be considered take-out.


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  • From Solaris@21:2/1202 to Blue White on Sunday, November 21, 2021 11:08:59
    What is a QR scanner? I thought they were for barcodes but apparently I

    its like this box thing with small squares and lines that can hold any amount of info , I hear other countries use them for prof of vaxx to enter places .

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Arelor on Sunday, November 21, 2021 12:29:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Sunday 21.11.21 - 05:51, Arelor wrote to Warpslide:

    With what we currently know, I think it is still not very
    wise to eat in an enclosed space full of people regardless
    of the number of jabs somebody has taken, at least for the
    time being.

    What about browsing for books at a bookshop? :D Or.. browsing
    a department store for.. [..whatever]? ;) It's still pretty
    much all the same scenario. I suppose the theory is to limit
    exposure to the same air in an enclosed space - but "they"
    don't really say that.


    It sucks to own a restaurant, but my friends and I are not taking any chances there. If we really want a meeting we can either eat outside or move to a place in which we are the only people - so risks are greatly reduced.

    And.. to do still wear a face-covering sitting across from each
    other?

    The QR solution is extremely dangerous. If it is designed as it should,
    the scanner uses the QR to query a database for your ID and status. Everytime an scanner queries for such information, the operator of the database knows where you are.

    I would imagine that the scanner location is "known" (since a
    business would have a registered address) and then it would
    follow that the "scannee" location is the same at the time of
    scan! :D


    If the QR is not designed as it should, it
    contains your ID and information and it is falsifiable - hence pretty much useless except as a pacification device. I somehow suspect if they are doing the latter approach they are not bothering with signing the QR digitally, which would have its own problems.

    There are specs and details about the Canadian/Ontario QR
    scanner that are published. From a quick look, it sounds like
    they've addressed a falsified attempt.

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  • From Rushfan@21:2/115 to Warpslide on Sunday, November 21, 2021 18:30:53
    BY: Warpslide(21:3/110)


    |11W|09> |10Yup, exact same thing. Here's one that take's you to Agency's website:|07

    I got an http 503 going to the agency bbs's website through that link.

    |11r|09ushfan|07


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  • From Mickey@21:1/156.1 to Ogg on Sunday, November 21, 2021 14:06:24
    I would imagine that the scanner location is "known" (since a
    business would have a registered address) and then it would
    follow that the "scannee" location is the same at the time of
    scan! :D

    I live in Ontario, have had both shots (I'm a musician and I need the
    money), have the scannable code on my smartphone, AND a copy of the
    scanner to play with. It just matches your name (as you said), with their database. Some are walking into restaurants with other peoples codes in
    their phones. Thats why they're supposed to ask for some other I.D. to
    match the name.



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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Ogg on Sunday, November 21, 2021 14:08:03
    Re: QR Scanner
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Sun Nov 21 2021 12:29 pm

    What about browsing for books at a bookshop? :D Or.. browsing
    a department store for.. [..whatever]? ;) It's still pretty
    much all the same scenario. I suppose the theory is to limit
    exposure to the same air in an enclosed space - but "they"
    don't really say that.


    I do my shopping and activities in a small town so it is pretty much not an issue for me. If the place is not crowded and it is ventilated I consider it relatively safe to enter. Most restaurants don't qualify.

    When I have a meeting in person with friends (which is quite rare) we either have it outside inthe open, or open the windows as to generate a nice air flow. Most of us took the jabs but we are not giving the jabs more credit than they deserve.

    For what I am reading of the Australian implementation of the QR scan, the system would be trickeable, but I am not disclosing how :-)


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Rushfan on Tuesday, November 23, 2021 16:24:15
    On 21 Nov 2021 at 06:30p, Rushfan pondered and said...

    I got an http 503 going to the agency bbs's website through that link.

    Looks like it was to my bbs telnet address, agency.bbs.nz but the website is bbs.nz :)

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