So here in the state we don't hear much about the land down under. How ever on social media it looks like you in total lock down with zero
rights . I Hear you cant go Home if the region your from is in lock
down, QR scanners at all public places , cant swim at thee beach , cant cut your grass . What is going on ....
So here in the state we don't hear much about the land down under. How ever on social media it looks like you in total lock down with
zero
rights . I Hear you cant go Home if the region your from is in lock down, QR scanners at all public places , cant swim at thee beach ,
cant cut your grass . What is going on ....
So firstly, social media is not a good source of the truth. Its that
old saying, if you go to a bad restaurant you tell everyone about it,
but if you go to a "not bad" one, you invariably tell less people
about it. So I'm guessing you've been hearing all the bad stuff out of context.
But now, I think most of Australia is "open" with international travel starting soon (if it hasnt already).
apam wrote to deon <=-
Not only that, but on social media everyone has a point of view. It's
not reporting facts, it's reporting ones interpretation of the facts.
Avon wrote to Solaris <=-
I'd suggest move this thread to an othernet where politics are
discussed.
reporting facts, it's reporting ones interpretation of the facts. Also
if
you're reading something on social media, it's almost certainly
something
you politically agree with, or else you would have unfollowed them.
Andrew
But now, I think most of Australia is "open" with international travel starting soon (if it hasnt already).
Im not trying to be political I was really just trying to find out what goes on . For what ever reason we don't see any news out of
there.
Thats good new you guys are opening up now . Thanks for responding .
Is there a good internet source that those interested could check for Australian and/or NZ news, or are they all as bad as ours? :)
For politics, I hear DoveNet General or Debate are great places.I know there are touchy issues in your land, but Im not going to touch
There is the ABC abc.net.au which is probably the best, all theI mix both forms of news such as a community radio station that leans
commercial channels, and newspapers are owned by Rupert Murdoch, so
they
all have a conservative spin (but if that's what you want, I guess it doesn't matter)
Im not trying to be political I was really just trying to find out
what goes on . For what ever reason we don't see any news out of
there. Thats good new you guys are opening up now . Thanks for
responding .
Now, Victoria is led by a labour government, queensland a labour government, and western australia a labour government. NSW by a LNP (aka conservative) government, and so is the Federal government.
apam wrote to Blue White <=-
Is there a good internet source that those interested could check for Australian and/or NZ news, or are they all as bad as ours? :)
There is the ABC abc.net.au which is probably the best, all the
commercial channels, and newspapers are owned by Rupert Murdoch, so
they all have a conservative spin (but if that's what you want, I guess
it doesn't matter)
deon wrote to Solaris <=-
I'm guessing like most countries with states (could be wrong), but
state governments managed this virus.
apam wrote to Solaris <=-
but the minite someone who doesn't love Trump or whatever speaks up
it's a pile on. Look at dovenet general or debate, thats not
discussion. That's not debate. That's a bunch of right wing bullys shouting and egging their mates on to pile on the lefties.
So here in the state we don't hear much about the land down under. How ever on social media it looks like you in total lock down with zero
rights . I Hear you cant go Home if the region your from is in lock
down, QR scanners at all public places , cant swim at thee beach , cant cut your grass . What is going on ....
apam wrote to Solaris <=-
Now, I am pissed off. This is the kind of message the no politics
rule is meant to prevent. This is why I try and say, politics
elsewhere please.
Don't worry Avon, I won't be writting any follow ups to this. I
think people need to be aware that there are others with
different view points than there own. It's not because we're to
timid and afraid of our feelings being hurt. It's because we want
this to be a place where politics is set aside and we can have
meaningful conversation.
So, it wasn't OK for the original poster to say something political,
but it is perfectly OK for you to go on a lengthy rant about it all,
even after you asked him in a previous post to not post political
stuff here.
anything about anti-vax) we had a 5km (3 miles) limit from our home meaning we can only travel that far to go to the shops or exercise, you
apam wrote to Gamgee <=-
So, it wasn't OK for the original poster to say something political,
but it is perfectly OK for you to go on a lengthy rant about it all,
even after you asked him in a previous post to not post political
stuff here.
No it's not and I apologised for that part. But really. Way to
miss the point to suit your agenda.
I didn't miss any point. I saw what everyone else saw. A political
rant by you, after complaining about somebody else's "political" post.
That's all.
Now, I am pissed off. This is the kind of message the no politics rule is meant to prevent. This is why I try and say, politics elsewhere please.
Don't worry Avon, I won't be writting any follow ups to this. I think people need to be aware that there are others with different view points than there own. It's not because we're to timid and afraid of our
feelings being hurt. It's because we want this to be a place where politics is set aside and we can have meaningful conversation.
I'm picking you were having a bad day when you wrote this?
Then I'd suggest, do as you say and drop the urge to write future
echomail posts on political subjects. If you want to debate that stuff either take it to netmail or to an othernet.
anything about anti-vax) we had a 5km (3 miles) limit from our home meaning we can only travel that far to go to the shops or
exercise, you
you need stuff from the next city over , for me thats like 10 miles away . what do you do if work is like mine at 37 miles away how do
you go to work . I could not imagine such a hard restriction .
apam wrote to Gamgee <=-
I didn't miss any point. I saw what everyone else saw. A political
rant by you, after complaining about somebody else's "political" post.
Saw but didn't read obviously.
That's all.
No doubt. Until the next political dustup where you appear from
the wood work to stir the pot.
Or maybe when the millionare posts something? Can't help respond
to those either can you.
In April of last year, I put some thoughts together about how I personally would attack Covid and did a website:
http://covidplan.info In it, I specified that it was not political, just a common sense way to combat something that doesn't care about politics. It c hit anyone. I received a lot of bad comments from those people that were against mandates, so I never pushed it afterwards.
Im not trying to be political I was really just trying to find out what goes on . For what ever reason we don't see any news out of there. Thats good new you guys are opening up now . Thanks for responding .
Because he is asking Australia-specific questions, that might prove more difficult. I rarely see any folks from down-under in the politics echos on othernets/fido. North Americans, oh yeah. Europeans, some. Aussies and Kiwis seem more likely to either lurk or avoid them. That is
probably wise.
Is there a good internet source that those interested could check for Australian and/or NZ news, or are they all as bad as ours? :)
I must admit, the restrictions and curfews were something that I thought occured during major world wars, and I never imagined that I would experience it in my lifetime.
But life is good now, kids are back at school, doing extra curicular activities and socialising has started again...
I'm picking you were having a bad day when you wrote this?
Not especially. It's been a bad few years.
I don't want to debate politics. I want people to stop. I want people to listen and take the no politics rule seriously. I want this to be a place where people can talk about stuff like computers and BBSing. Sure I overreacted to Solaris, my point was supposed to be this is what happens when the no politics rule is ignored. People get angry and things deteriorate, and then I got carried away, because I'm angry. So I apologised.
It's seems to be par for the course though. Everyone has their 2 cents to put in, regardless of the no politics rule. People who lurk for
everything else, spring into action, and those who follow the rules are left wondering why am I even here?
Despite what some may want people to believe I'm not the leader of the leftist movement. I do have conservative friends, and it works because we don't talk politics.
Melbourne is a city of 5 million (or so), and the state of victoria has 6.6m (or so).
I'll not respond further, as I don't want to aggravate Avon, and/or
the other good folks who want to keep politics out of here.
Labour party and conservative , I assume the labor party is basically democratic , I like learning about world governments and how they work
...
I'll not respond further, as I don't want to aggravate Avon,It's clear that you guys can and do butt heads on some things at
topics that you feel you can discuss (away from politics) without
discord creeping in.
My apologies to you Todd, looks like I misread the original intent
behind your original post. The joys of written communications eh? :)
deon wrote to Solaris <=-
Secondly, I live near the beach, with kids and for the last 2 years
we've walked along the beach pretty much daily - if anything to get out
of our house while the state has gone through various stages of
lockdown (while this virus has been causing havoc).
hdt wrote to Solaris <=-
Well I'm happy it's over... for now. It's back to something that's resembles normal or as normal as it could be. No more restictions
(except for mask in shopping centers what US calls Malls). I'm able to
go into the office and go anywhere I want.
I'll discuss anything with anyone but remember, I am usually right (in my own mind), and should we have a disagreement, remember rule #1.
Here in California, during lockdown as long as you were using the beach to surf, walk, jog, were keeping your distance and not just sitting at the beach it was allowed. If you looked like a household going out together, you'd keep walking. Groups of obviously non-related teens would be asked to stay away. Once you started setting out towels, coolers, umbrellas, etc, you'd be asked to leave.
We're going into the holiday season with a mandatory indoor mask mandate, trying to quell a surge in Covid cases before it starts. My entire family is now vaccinated, and we're scheduling booster shots.
I had a very nice time during the lockdown because I spent it tending the harvest. People living in a small city appartment had a really bad time. Suicide cases skyrocketed here and nobody wonders why.
I had a very nice time during the lockdown because I spent it tending th harvest. People living in a small city appartment had a really bad time. Suicide cases skyrocketed here and nobody wonders why.
And you had equines that needed you. That probably is part of
the "nice time".
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I had a very nice time during the lockdown because I spent it tending
the harvest. People living in a small city appartment had a really bad time. Suicide cases skyrocketed here and nobody wonders why.
Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-
One of the common catch-phrases that was touted by the gov't/
media was "Stay home. Stay safe." Then it changed to "Stay
home. Save lives." However, many elective and emergency
surgeries were cancelled or postponed. Routine visits to
physicians didn't happen either. Consequently, a new
demographic of "lives" got sick or sicker or died as a result
of this disruption, and not because of the c-bug. How ironic.
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Hey they essentially placed everybody under domiciliary arrest, and
nobody was allowed on the streets if it was not for walking a pet,
doing essential groceries or working at some strategical sector.
I had a very nice time during the lockdown because I spent it tending
the harvest. People living in a small city appartment had a really bad time. Suicide cases skyrocketed here and nobody wonders why.
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The way I am facing the risks of family Xmast meetings is by not having family Xmast meetings.
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Hey they essentially placed everybody under domiciliary arrest, and nobody was allowed on the streets if it was not for walking a pet, doing essential groceries or working at some strategical sector.
If we'd done that earlier, like a hard lockdown in April of 2020, I bet the US would be in a better position.
I am kind of sore because all throughout the lockdown, the government was deflating infection numbers as to keep the population calm. The hospitals were I had known doctors worked in had instructions not to register..
I understand the reasons, but I think it was dirty play and falsified the impact of the pandemic in the eyes of the public.
I think its the complete opposite here in NA. Doctors are
expected to deem every person with covid-like symptoms as a
"case". Some people get sent home to isolate and wait it out,
and, if it is bad enough that you can't breathe, the person is
admitted to stay in the hospital. The media reports rising
numbers, increased "cases", etc.
deon wrote to Solaris <=-Here in California, during lockdown as long as you were using the beach to surf, walk, jog, were keeping your distance and not just sitting at the beach it was allowed. If you looked like a household going out together, you'd keep walking. Groups of obviously non-related teens would be asked to stay away. Once you started setting out towels, coolers, umbrellas, etc, you'd be asked to leave.
Here in California, during lockdown as long as you were using the beach
to surf, walk, jog, were keeping your distance and not just sitting..
I just love living in Europe, Netherlands to be specific. Not all of those strict rules. We didn't had any hard lockdown and are allowed to leave our homes, except for a night curfew which lasted for about 2 months in
January of 2021.
The world is going mad about Covid. Scary to see what is happening in Australia and NZ. Let's hope this won't last a few more years.
I just love living in Europe, Netherlands to be specific. Not all of
those strict rules. We didn't had any hard lockdown and are allowed to leave our homes, except for a night curfew which lasted for about 2
months in January of 2021.
Re: Re: What is going on in Australia
By: poindexter FORTRAN to deon on Mon Nov 22 2021 07:06:00
deon wrote to Solaris <=-Here in California, during lockdown as long as you were using the beach to sur
walk, jog, were keeping your distance and not just sitting at the beach it wa
allowed. If you looked like a household going out together, you'd keep walkin
Groups of obviously non-related teens would be asked to stay away. Once you
started setting out towels, coolers, umbrellas, etc, you'd be asked to leave.
I just love living in Europe, Netherlands to be specific. Not all of those strict
rules. We didn't had any hard lockdown and are allowed to leave our homes, except f
a night curfew which lasted for about 2 months in January of 2021.
The world is going mad about Covid. Scary to see what is happening in Australia and
NZ. Let's hope this won't last a few more years.
Greetingz,
M1ch43l
M1ch43l
On 01 Dec 2021, M1ch43l said the following...
I just love living in Europe, Netherlands to be specific. Not all of those strict rules. We didn't had any hard lockdown and are allowed to leave o
homes, except for a night curfew which lasted for about 2
months in January of 2021.
Here in Oklahoma, USA, very few people care about the 'rona. Under 10% are masking
and I just saw my first double masker in three months the other day. We're almost
normal here. Someone I know who does works on Covid patients said there aren't man
people on her floor in the hospital, so we must be doing something right.
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Greenlfc wrote to M1ch43l <=-
Here in Oklahoma, USA, very few people care about the 'rona. Under 10% are masking and I just saw my first double masker in three months the other day. We're almost normal here. Someone I know who does works on Covid patients said there aren't many people on her floor in the
hospital, so we must be doing something right.
"The Netherlands will be "effectively closed" in the evenings
from Sunday - with bars, restaurants and shops shutting between
5pm and 5am, PM Mark Rutte announced Friday.
5pm closures are pretty early!
...okay, that's the one depressing thing about living in Northern
Europe. I _like_ the "always cloudy" weather, but the long nights...
"The Netherlands will be "effectively closed" in the evenings
from Sunday - with bars, restaurants and shops shutting between
5pm and 5am, PM Mark Rutte announced Friday.
Actually meant for Ogg
"The Netherlands will be "effectively closed" in the
evenings from Sunday - with bars, restaurants and
shops shutting between 5pm and 5am, PM Mark Rutte
announced Friday.
Does this news mean you from NL? Wishful thinking on my
part to think I am not alone here? =)
Does this news mean you from NL? Wishful thinking on myNo.. I am not settled in NL. I've been spotted in Italy, AUS,
part to think I am not alone here? =)
Finland and western Canada from time to time though! :D
The news of strict shutdowns at 5p seemed early to me. People
who get off work only at 5p might have a problem.
"The Netherlands will be "effectively closed" in the evenings from Sunday - with bars, restaurants and shops shutting between 5pm and 5am, PM Mark Rutte announced Friday.
Does this news mean you from NL? Wishful thinking on my part to think I
am not alone here? =)
Yeah -- my rJAM implementation doesnt have forward message build in yet =).Does this news mean you from NL? Wishful thinking on my part to think am not alone here? =)
I guess you were more aiming at talking to Ogg, but I think Ogg lives in Canadia.
I live in Muenster, NRW, so I'm not far from the border (well, by AmericanSo true, in Netherlands, everything is maximum 3-4 hour drive. Especially for me living in the smack middle of NL.
standards, anyway, where nothing is close and/or it takes as long to drive
partway across a city as it'd make me to get to NL), but far enough that I wonder if I'd had to follow additional regulations after visiting.Not sure myself even ^^. Love to see some EU people here. Less abundant nevertheless.
Here in Oklahoma, USA, very few people care about the 'rona. Under 10% are masking and I just saw my first double masker in three months the other day. We're almost normal here. Someone I know who does works on Covid patients said there aren't many people on her floor in the hospital, so we must be doing something right.
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