• Docker

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Saturday, November 06, 2021 10:15:57
    So I am starting to learn Docker at the moment. I'd like to thank Deon for his patience as I have asked him a number of questions so far too :)

    I found a video on YouTube that has helped today to make sense of the ecosystem and now I am pondering how best to set things up so that I get the outcomes I want.

    You know how your head hurts a little when you soak up new stuff, that's me today :)

    Happy Saturday from NZ.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Avon on Friday, November 05, 2021 17:41:18
    On 06 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...

    I found a video on YouTube that has helped today to make sense of the ecosystem and now I am pondering how best to set things up so that I get the outcomes I want.

    I've been meaning to try and wrap my head around docker as well. Which video did you find?

    You know how your head hurts a little when you soak up new stuff, that's me today :)

    I kind of find my like a sponge. When my ears start leaking I know I've had enough for the day... ;)


    Jay

    ... A hunch is creativity trying to tell you something.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Warpslide on Saturday, November 06, 2021 11:24:55
    On 05 Nov 2021 at 05:41p, Warpslide pondered and said...

    I've been meaning to try and wrap my head around docker as well. Which video did you find?

    One called 'Docker Tutorial for Beginners (over 1 hour)' from a chap running a channel called 'DevOps For Developers'. I found it very helpful.

    I kind of find my like a sponge. When my ears start leaking I know I've had enough for the day... ;)

    Hahah.. Nice. Yes I can relate :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Friday, November 05, 2021 20:50:34
    On 06 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...

    So I am starting to learn Docker at the moment. I'd like to thank Deon
    for his patience as I have asked him a number of questions so far too :)

    I found a video on YouTube that has helped today to make sense of the ecosystem and now I am pondering how best to set things up so that I get the outcomes I want.

    I too am starting to play with Docker a little bit via my Synology NAS. Currently i am running Appache Guacamole on it to RDP/VNC into my Linux machines. I am still completely in the dark about it, as My son set it up while I sat there and asked 1001 questions.. He loves Docker.. Me still learning it..

    ... A book misplaced is a book lost

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Saturday, November 06, 2021 22:14:15
    On 05 Nov 2021 at 08:50p, Bucko pondered and said...

    I too am starting to play with Docker a little bit via my Synology NAS. Currently i am running Appache Guacamole on it to RDP/VNC into my Linux machines. I am still completely in the dark about it, as My son set it
    up while I sat there and asked 1001 questions.. He loves Docker.. Me
    still learning it..

    ah well we're in good company then.

    Yes I have been learning about docker-compose and how to build interconnected containers today. I got some stuff working which was cool but now I am trying to start to figure out how to modify what I got running... head is full tonight!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Pat Jensen@21:4/163 to Avon on Saturday, November 06, 2021 04:40:13

    That's great. I held out on Docker for a long time, mainly because container networking can be a little bit rough. I run a lot of voice applications that use a lot of UDP ephermal ports and aren't very fond of NAT traversal.

    With that being said, I migrated my Synchronet BBS to a Docker container, and I absolutely love it. It abstracts the BBS volume data from the binaries, so I can upgrade in place to any version at any time.

    Enjoy the new bits.

    So I am starting to learn Docker at the moment. I'd like to thank Deon for his patience as I have asked him a
    number
    of questions so far too :)

    I found a video on YouTube that has helped today to make sense of the ecosystem and now I am pondering how best
    to
    set things up so that I get the outcomes I want.

    You know how your head hurts a little when you soak up new stuff, that's me today :)

    Happy Saturday from NZ.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: Jensencloud - Fresno, CA (21:4/163)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Saturday, November 06, 2021 08:23:08
    On 06 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...


    ah well we're in good company then.

    Yes I have been learning about docker-compose and how to build interconnected containers today. I got some stuff working which was cool but now I am trying to start to figure out how to modify what I got running... head is full tonight!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)

    Yes indeed we are in good company.. Eventually, I would like to my my multitude of VM's running my different BBS' and Servers etc off of real hardware and move them to Docker containers and run them from one place.. Eventually... LOL

    ... I'd love to help you out. Which way did you come in?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/10/25 (Windows/32)
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Pat Jensen on Sunday, November 07, 2021 08:53:15
    On 06 Nov 2021 at 04:40a, Pat Jensen pondered and said...


    That's great. I held out on Docker for a long time, mainly because container networking can be a little bit rough. I run a lot of voice applications that use a lot of UDP ephermal ports and aren't very fond
    of NAT traversal.

    With that being said, I migrated my Synchronet BBS to a Docker
    container, and I absolutely love it. It abstracts the BBS volume data
    from the binaries, so I can upgrade in place to any version at any time.

    Enjoy the new bits.

    Cool thanks. I am learning Nginx also and just trying to suss how to configure multiple domains. I agree it's a cool bit of kit.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Sunday, November 07, 2021 08:54:03
    On 06 Nov 2021 at 08:23a, Bucko pondered and said...

    Yes indeed we are in good company.. Eventually, I would like to my my multitude of VM's running my different BBS' and Servers etc off of real hardware and move them to Docker containers and run them from one
    place.. Eventually... LOL

    Yes that for me would be my first move into a VM style of world. At the moment I have a room with 4 PC whirring away.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Bugz@1:0/0 to Avon on Saturday, November 06, 2021 23:09:00
    Avon wrote to All <=-

    So I am starting to learn Docker at the moment. I'd like to thank Deon
    for his patience as I have asked him a number of questions so far too
    :)

    Hi Avon,

    I've been using docker more and more, for work and at home.

    All my BBSes have been dockerized. My latest has been dockerizing the TradeWars game server using wine(linux). I had it running before, but
    was doing it wrong. Shutdown would shut down the framebuffer/xorg
    session, and then the game would get forcibly shut down, eventually
    leading to corrupted data. I've learned since then -- my newest
    container runs it's own vnc, and shutdown sends Alt-X and politely waits
    for TWGS to stop.

    You know how your head hurts a little when you soak up new stuff,
    that's me today :)

    It definitely takes a bit to get your head around the terms: images, containers, volumes, and networks. Multi-stage builds!

    But, it's really nice to be able to spin up some containers and have
    the complete BBS running locally for testing.

    https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/the-docker-handbook/

    That's a great resource for learning more.

    And it's always fun to learn new things.

    Take care,
    bugz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bugz on Sunday, November 07, 2021 16:19:43
    On 06 Nov 2021 at 11:09p, Bugz pondered and said...

    But, it's really nice to be able to spin up some containers and have
    the complete BBS running locally for testing.

    https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/the-docker-handbook/

    That's a great resource for learning more.

    Thanks for the resource link I'll certainly dive into that. Cheers :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Avon on Sunday, November 07, 2021 09:56:10
    Avon wrote (2021-11-06):

    So I am starting to learn Docker at the moment. I'd like to thank Deon
    for his patience as I have asked him a number of questions so far too :)

    I found a video on YouTube that has helped today to make sense of the ecosystem and now I am pondering how best to set things up so that I get the outcomes I want.

    You know how your head hurts a little when you soak up new stuff, that's
    me today :)

    I thought people are switching from docker to podman.

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Sunday, November 07, 2021 06:37:48
    On 07 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...


    Yes that for me would be my first move into a VM style of world. At the moment I have a room with 4 PC whirring away.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)

    LOL I have 5 PC's plus a NAS running in one room.. On 1 of the PC's I have 4 VM's running all of my PC/Linux stuff, (Mystic, Enigma,SynchroNet, and a SynchroNet door server) another has a Commodore 64 Image BBS running in emulation, the next has a CNet Amiga in Emulation BBS, and the final one is my Image BBS NISSANet Hub machine which has 2 seperate emulated C64's.. If I can get them all onto 1 machine without having to sell the house for ram or CPU power I would love that!

    ... I think I am, therefore, I am... I think.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/10/25 (Windows/32)
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Oli on Monday, November 08, 2021 22:38:35
    On 07 Nov 2021 at 09:56a, Oli pondered and said...

    I thought people are switching from docker to podman.

    Oh no, more stuff to learn... let me get my head around docker containers first :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Monday, November 08, 2021 22:40:08
    On 07 Nov 2021 at 06:37a, Bucko pondered and said...

    LOL I have 5 PC's plus a NAS running in one room.. On 1 of the PC's I
    have 4 VM's running all of my PC/Linux stuff, (Mystic,
    Enigma,SynchroNet, and a SynchroNet door server) another has a Commodore

    what sort of system specs do you need to do this with, and that's using docker right?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Monday, November 08, 2021 19:40:36

    On 08 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...


    what sort of system specs do you need to do this with, and that's using docker right?


    No those aren't running Docker, I am running KVM/QEMU for the VM systems, that one is just run on a i5 3.5ghz, 32gigs ram.. The Docker setup will be on my NAS, which is a Synology DS920+ Nothing fancy just 32 TB's of HD space.. Just gotta get my feet wet with the Docker setups...

    AL

    ... I don't have the time for a hobby. I have a computer.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Monday, November 08, 2021 08:50:00
    Avon wrote to Oli <=-

    Oh no, more stuff to learn... let me get my head around docker
    containers first :)

    I worked at a local government IT department, about as dysfunctional a workplace as I've *ever* worked.

    There's a yearly review of IT trends from Harvard, I think. We'd go through the current trends, and think "No, not there yet". The previous year. The
    year before that, and so on.

    Our current state of IT was 7 years behind the curve. Hell, we still had a server room with raised floors and an AS/400!


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Friday, November 12, 2021 15:24:07
    On 08 Nov 2021 at 07:40p, Bucko pondered and said...

    No those aren't running Docker, I am running KVM/QEMU for the VM
    systems, that one is just run on a i5 3.5ghz, 32gigs ram.. The Docker setup will be on my NAS, which is a Synology DS920+ Nothing fancy just
    32 TB's of HD space.. Just gotta get my feet wet with the Docker
    setups...

    Ah OK yep all good... I'm still very much at the early stages of it all myself.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, November 12, 2021 15:27:54
    On 08 Nov 2021 at 08:50a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    I worked at a local government IT department, about as dysfunctional a workplace as I've *ever* worked.

    :)

    There's a yearly review of IT trends from Harvard, I think. We'd go through the current trends, and think "No, not there yet". The previous year. The year before that, and so on.

    That all sounds rather disheartening. Hopefully it helped guide where they eventually would end up?

    Our current state of IT was 7 years behind the curve. Hell, we still had
    a server room with raised floors and an AS/400!

    Heh.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/09/29 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Friday, November 12, 2021 07:29:00
    Avon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    There's a yearly review of IT trends from Harvard, I think. We'd go through the current trends, and think "No, not there yet". The previous year. The year before that, and so on.

    That all sounds rather disheartening. Hopefully it helped guide where
    they eventually would end up?

    I didn't stay around long enough to find out. Suffice it to say, their technology was the least of their issues.




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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, November 15, 2021 16:48:20
    On 12 Nov 2021 at 07:29a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    I didn't stay around long enough to find out. Suffice it to say, their technology was the least of their issues.

    That was a good move.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/06 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)