Hi All!
It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM EDT/10PM BST: youtu.be/z_heZ-lgzq0
The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the beginnings of the Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii, Cracking/Warez and Carding scenes. So, if you want to know where the darkweb came from, how 0-day warez games got started, how blowing a whistle from a cereal box gave you free calls, or how Kim Dotcom came to be worldwide phreaker on the run, then check it out! There are great interviews with Dan Smolders, 'deathr0w' and Shooter Jennings.
I will be in the live chat on YouTube during the premiere to chat to you all, so please join in the fun with me! Depending upon interest, there may also be a live stream for discussion after the event. Let me know if you are interested in this.
Cheers!
hyjinx // Alistair Ross
Author of 'Back to the BBS' Documentary: https://bit.ly/3tRINeL (YouTube) alsgeeklab.com
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How many parts do you plan to make? Is this the final one?
Hi All!
It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM EDT/10PM BST:
The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the
beginnings of the Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii, Cracking/Warez and Carding scenes. So, if you want to know where the darkweb came from, how 0-day warez games got started, how blowing a whistle from a cereal box gave you free calls, or how Kim Dotcom came to be worldwide phreaker on the run, then check it out! There are great interviews with Dan
Smolders, 'deathr0w' and Shooter Jennings.
The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the
beginnings of the Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii, Cracking/Warez and Carding scenes. So, if you want to know where the darkweb came from, how
How many parts do you plan to make? Is this the final one?
Two more parts - One on modtrackers & the demoscene and the other
covering the ANSI art scene. I might do a 'wrap up' episode at some
point if I can be arsed...
How many parts do you plan to make? Is this the final one?
i hope there are 24 + episodes :-) i am waiting for it to get picked up
by netflix or hulu... that would be AWESOME!
The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the
also who could forget the classic book "Hacker Crackdown - Law and disorder in the Electronic Fronteer" and Captian Crunch lol
It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM EDT/10PM BST: youtu.be/z_heZ-lgzq0
gcubebuddy wrote to hyjinx <=-
The episode is called 'The Underground' and it focusses on the
beginnings of the Hacking, Phreaking, Anarchy, Virii, Cracking/Warez and Carding scenes. So, if you want to know where the darkweb came from, how
also who could forget the classic book "Hacker Crackdown - Law and disorder in the Electronic Fronteer" and Captian Crunch lol
I think I still have a copy of that Steve Jackson's Games book that
caused the Secret Service all those problems (i.e. having the Judge
spend 40 minutes berating the chief investigator about not knowing the law).
gcubebuddy wrote to hyjinx <=-
also who could forget the classic book "Hacker Crackdown - Law and disorder in the Electronic Fronteer" and Captian Crunch lol
It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode of
Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM
checking hacking and phone phreak sites, and ending up on Alt2600 and reading all the news on that lol. those were the days....
I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else
on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.
to buy a paper copy if you liked it. I read that book while taking the light rail system in San Francisco into work, on my PalmPilot.
I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else
on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.
I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything el on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion modu
I dunno. I was thinking, "I wonder how good he was with Graffiti".
I loved that book, especially because it was one of the first books
where the author released electronic copies for free with the suggestion to buy a paper copy if you liked it. I read that book while taking the light rail system in San Francisco into work, on my PalmPilot.
I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else
on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.
It gives me great pleasure to announce that the next episode ofCool! Can't wait to watch it on Friday!
Back to the BBS premieres LIVE on Friday Aug 27th at 2PM PDT/5PM
Regards,
Mindsurfer / Stephan
gcubebuddy wrote to Dr. What <=-
I think I still have a copy of that Steve Jackson's Games book that
caused the Secret Service all those problems (i.e. having the Judge
spend 40 minutes berating the chief investigator about not knowing the law).
wow interesting. i actaully have not read that one yet. i will have to look that up.
made my computer read to me. i had a soundblaster32 card which had voice synthisis i nwindows 98. i had it read me the audio book that was a
I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasounds, since I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.
I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasounds, since I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.
i remember the days when having a sound card was a privlage for the uber rich lol. a soundblaster 16 was only dreamed about. I was lucky my
Tandy HX1000 had a builtin audio / midi card.
Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I know what you're thinking, "How did you have room for everything else
on your PalmPilot?" Not to worry, I had the 8 MEGABYTE expansion module.
I dunno. I was thinking, "I wonder how good he was with Graffiti".
I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasound since I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.
Here Gravis wasn't much of a thing... I think it was one of those technically better pieces of hardware that lacked specific support in a lot of things, SB was the lowest common denominator.
Was it even common in Europe? I honestly thought it was a demoscene thing,
All the bleeps, bloops and blips.. I remember that too.. given I only
used the PC for a BBS I didn't go near a sounds card for a loooong time. The new G/F at
the time had an ADLIB card... I think the first thing I saw use it, was Might and Magic III... after being spoiled with that for a bit, it was difficult to go back to none as the PC slowly picked up the slack from
the Apple IIgs.
I kind of miss the poking about with drivers looking for interrupts,
ports and sequencing drivers to make everything run homogenously. Used
to be all sorts of weird ISA cards kicking around... made extra fun by trying to run many serial ports, sound card, ethernet cards.... even the odd CD interface...
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Adept <=-
I dunno. I was thinking, "I wonder how good he was with Graffiti".
Back then, my handwriting started looking like Graffiti.
[...]I was kind of expecting this crowd to have had more Gravis Ultrasound Sp>> Ad> since I hear that was a demoscene thing for some reason.
Was it even common in Europe? I honestly thought it was a demoscene thing, rather than a Europe thing.
I think so, yes. At least I did not know anyone who owned a GUS.
Some dreamed of it, but no one bought or got one.
I also "only" had SoundBlaster cards. I can't remember which ones, I
guess a SB16 and later an AWE64.
Regards,
Anna
Was it even common in Europe? I honestly thought it was a demoscene t
Shrug, no idea about Europe being in 'Straya mate... I recall a few odd people here having them, but the usual moan was nothing supported them. Everyone else was SB.
lol i rememeber having to set the dip switches on cards for our old 486DX.
I also "only" had SoundBlaster cards. I can't remember which ones, I guess a SB16 and later an AWE64.
You had dipswitches? We used to dream about dipswitches, we only had
molex headers and jumpers... :P
Spec
Here, at least in the circles I moved, the AWE64 also suffered from support issues and it being a superset of the AWE32. Most things only supported the 32
and the bulk of people I knew that could afford to buy such things stuck with 32s
Spec
I also "only" had SoundBlaster cards. I can't remember which ones, I
guess a SB16 and later an AWE64.
Here, at least in the circles I moved, the AWE64 also suffered from support issues and it being a superset of the AWE32. Most things only supported
the 32 and the bulk of people I knew that could afford to buy such things stuck with 32s
molex headers and jumpers... :P Spec
what system was that from? very interesting. ya i remember a few times in
My problem was, that I really wanted the AWE32, but I did not find it in
Today, I have a AWE32 in my Pentium-233 retro pc :)
it was take a guess and try it out. A lot of them defaulted
to IRQ4 at port #300 or 3f8, if I recall right, in the second serial
port space.
gcubebuddy wrote to Spectre <=-
what system was that from? very interesting. ya i remember a few times
in my youth of being frustrated trying to find the right dip switch setting for a modem, CDROM, or sound card lol. on our 486DX.
that computer was pretty frustrating though as it had a memory leak in
the ram.
Here, at least in the circles I moved, the AWE64 also suffered from sup issues and it being a superset of the AWE32. Most things only supporte the 32 and the bulk of people I knew that could afford to buy such thin stuck with 32sMy problem was, that I really wanted the AWE32, but I did not find it in the shops as the AWE64 was already available...
But all in all it did work quite well for me back in the days.
Today, I have a AWE32 in my Pentium-233 retro pc :)
Regards,
Anna
Hmm well it would've been XT/286 era equipment.. 386's were around but still hideously expensive. Network cards were notorious for it. If you were lucky they were labeled in the silkscreen otherwise it was take a guess and try it out. A lot of them defaulted to IRQ4 at port #300 or 3f8, if I recall right, in the second serial port space.
But a lot of early proprietary CD-ROM interfaces were along the same lines. Trying to think what else there was... even the adaptec 1512 SCSI adapter had trillions of jumpers on it.
One of the oxymorons I loved when plug and pray first arrived, was cards arriving with a "JUMPER" for jumperless operation. :P
Today, I have a AWE32 in my Pentium-233 retro pc :)
schon, Ich habe keine ausrustung von diese zeit. Nicht zu viel langer Zeit ich gefinden eine 286 und 386 auf der fussweg fur Rat hart mullabfuhr.
PS: excuse the missing umlauts, ich habe keine..
PS: excuse the missing umlauts, ich habe keine..
No problem :)
Just fyi: in German, you can write 'ue' for , 'ae' for „,
'oe' for ” and 'ss' for á. These are the official
alternative writings if umlauts are not available.
find an old 586 66 meghertz machine any more.
i remember when 386 / 486 were like $4000. my dad bought me a tandy HX1000 (8088) from radio shack on his credit card, for me to do school work on. i thnk it was a sale of somekind as it was only $800 if i remember
My father was convinced it was all a flash in the pan. So no computer in my home until I started work and bought a second hander...
PS: excuse the missing umlauts, ich habe keine..
No problem :)
Just fyi: in German, you can write 'ue' for ü, 'ae' for ä,
'oe' for ö and 'ss' for ß. These are the official
alternative writings if umlauts are not available.
Almost makes more sense to use u: for ü, a: for ä, and o: for ö
Just fyi: in German, you can write 'ue' for , 'ae' for „,
'oe' for ” and 'ss' for á. These are the official
alternative writings if umlauts are not available.
Almost makes more sense to use u: for , a: for „, and o: for ”
My father was convinced it was all a flash in the pan. So no computer in my home until I started work and bought a second hander...
Just fyi: in German, you can write 'ue' for , 'ae' for „, 'oe' for
” and 'ss' for á. These are the official alternative writings
if umlauts are not available.
Luckily my Dad was interested in this stuff and supported me when I
saved up for a ZX81... not much later we got a BBC Micro B for the household... it was game on then :)
gcubebuddy wrote to Spectre <=-
i remember when 386 / 486 were like $4000. my dad bought me a tandy
HX1000 (8088) from radio shack on his credit card, for me to do school work on. i thnk it was a sale of somekind as it was only $800 if i remember correctly. i loved that thing. although i didnt have a modem
for it. i would have LOVED that lol
Unfortunately I don't get the practice to make it stick in my overclocked chimp brain. But I believe thats correct... which in some examples I was given by a Deutsche Mann I used to work with, you could have sss in
some words, which initially started with the SS and had an S added on :)
I don't recall now what words they were...
When my dad retired, I put together an AMD 386/40, 3 MB RAM and a VGA card, gave him a copy of Lotus 1-2-3. He was a financial accountant and wanted to look into a consulting business.
Turned out, he discovered video games and played a lot of Commander Keen and Castle Wolfenstein, then discovered alt.smokers.pipes on usenet and
it became his hangout.
Avon wrote to Spectre <=-Hope Raspberry Pis can do the same for high school and jr.high school kids who want technology.
On 02 Sep 2021 at 10:33a, Spectre pondered and said...
My father was convinced it was all a flash in the pan. So no computer in my home until I started work and bought a second hander...
Luckily my Dad was interested in this stuff and supported me when I
saved up for a ZX81... not much later we got a BBC Micro B for the household... it was game on then :)
Hope Raspberry Pis can do the same for high school and jr.high school
kids who want technology.
I bet even for low income families they could even have Libre Office attached and they could type their school papers on it too.
This is the list i had when i was growing up in the 80s
1) speak n spell :-)
2) Commodore VIC-20 - with tape drive and carts
3) Atari 2600 - spaceinvaders / pac man :-)
5) Tandy TX1000 - My dads computer with 286 with 20 meg HDD, cdrom drive,
300 baud modem
6) Nintendo NES
7) Tandy HX1000 - My personal computer in junior high - no
internal HDD, but had ram extention to 1 meg i think. its been a while. 8) 486DX 33 mghertz - CDrom, win 3.1 dos 300 meg HDD, 2600 baud modem
I showed my son some of commodores we had. he was like "Thats kind of boring..." I told him, back in the day, just owning one put you in line for a promotion at work, and it meant that you were living in the Star Trek age. You had a computer just like the one on Star Trek. :-) I wish that i had appreciated more, the exposure to computers i had back then.
i also wish i still had them :-)
Hope Raspberry Pis can do the same for high school and jr.high school kids w want technology.
I bet even for low income families they could even have Libre Office attache and they could type their school papers on it too.
Luckily my Dad was interested in this stuff and supported me when IHope Raspberry Pis can do the same for high school and jr.high school
saved up for a ZX81... not much later we got a BBC Micro B for the
household... it was game on then :)
kids who want technology.
I bet even for low income families they could even have Libre Office attached and they could type their school papers on it too.
I played Simon, and had a Merlin (still do) and when I was flatting onlol yep. the 486 we had, had a memory leak in the ram. we initially has 4
my own bout a 486-DX2-66 from memory. The modem was 14.4 then 28.8 then 33.6 then 56k :) you know the drill! :)
I know :) It's mostly nostalgic stuff now I guess but still fun to have them if poss. I wonder what your son's children will make of his
childhood tech?
lol yep. the 486 we had, had a memory leak in the ram. we initially has 4 megs of ram. but then later on down the line, we upgraded to about 16
megs if i remember correctly... i also installed a Soundblaster after years of having the computer. I think too, we had the 2400 baud modem,
but then upgraded to a 28k modem at one point. That was when AOL really first started to come out. :-)
lol my son use to ask me, "Daddy, when you were a kid, did phones still have cords on them?" lol
i bet his kids will ask the same about cell phones and nintendo switches lol
These are also the days of computers with buttons labeled 'turbo' ...
woot :)
Avon wrote to gcubebuddy <=-
Perhaps cell phones will disappear to be replaced with a chip in our
heads or something in our ear all the time?
gcubebuddy wrote to Avon <=-
haha i wish that some manufacture would remake those old tower cases
for modern computers. they always looked so cool.
These are also the days of computers with buttons labeled 'turbo' ...
woot :)
But I did once try out a PC-based fighting game that evidently timed the speed of animations based off of _processor clock speed_.
These are also the days of computers with buttons labeled 'turbo' ... woot :)
haha i wish that some manufacture would remake those old tower cases for modern computers. they always looked so cool.
I've thought that my grandkids will have a neural metaverse implant and look at their parents' hunched shoulders and stiff necks from a lifetime of looking down at their phones.
These are also the days of computers with buttons labeled 'turbo' ... woot :)
I have occasionally wondered why people would ever _not_ choose turbo (it never seemed like a cooling issue, so what did it matter?(.
But I did once try out a PC-based fighting game that evidently timed the speed of animations based off of _processor clock speed_.
So, have a computer that was twice as fast? Then the animations were
twice as fast.
Made a game go from, "huh, this is kinda fun" to, "huh, these are basically just blurs on the screen before I lose".
there's a trend these days to fit new gear into old cases it seems too.. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
there's a trend these days to fit new gear into old cases it seems too.. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Avon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
perhaps they will need to retain their parents to remember what the
real world looks like.... this is a tree, this is a road :)
gcubebuddy wrote to Avon <=-
Ya i have kind of been leaning more towards building new systems off
RPi, and getting old software to run on them. eventually alot of the
old Commodore 64s, Tandy TRS-80s and the old systems we had, are eventually going to break down. i figure if we retrofit a "platform"
like the RPi for those old systems, then we can even expand the capabilities of what the old softwares can do.
On 15 Sep 2021, Avon said the following...
there's a trend these days to fit new gear into old cases it seems too.. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
I never saw that impact when I used the software of the time on the machine of the same era but mileage may vary.
Pretty ingenius if I do say so... and you're not going to find a cleaner power supply for a ham radio than one from a PC.
Spectre wrote to N1uro <=-
Boggle, switchmode supplies are notoriously noisy.. even with filtering you'll often get some level of ripple going on. What they have going
for them is far better efficiency than any linear supply.
I could be completely wrong, but one imagines that HAM would have
similar requirements to audio supplies.. you don't want to induce
ripple or hum into the equipment via the power supply... there's a good reason audio equipment still uses toroidal and similar power supplies.
For the purpose of amateur radio, linear supplies tend to be a better source of power.
You can limit the ripple through heavier filtering. HAM radio is by far anything but audiophile type quality. You're more dealing with transmitting power and consistency first, audio quality second.
Spectre wrote to N1uro <=-
Ahh I see my first problem. HAM + Amateur, have always meant the same thing in my mind.. sounds like its more different than I expected...
More power Mr Spotty, if I give her any more, you'll blow the filters cap'n... I don't care we need the extra kilometer coverage ;)
there's a trend these days to fit new gear into old cases it seems to I'm not sure how I feel about that.
That reminds me of a few years back when everyone seemed to be stuffing
a Raspberry Pi into an altoids containers. It was neat, but I didn't really get the appeal.
We'll be preserved on USB sticks. Plug your parents in to that jack
behind your ear and they can help you figure out how to change a tire or fix a wall heater.
I've seen some cool packet stations users have built with a radio and a
Pi built into an older PC case using the PC's power supply for juice. Pretty ingenius if I do say so... and you're not going to find a cleaner power supply for a ham radio than one from a PC.
Avon wrote to N1uro <=-
Very true. I like the idea of what they are doing as you describe.
suss out vinyl turntables, rotary telephones, what an overhead projector is, etc. etc... I'm getting old :)
Thanks for all the work that has gone into these episodes and looking forward to more...
I've been watching this series just today, and all I can say is - ahh the memories :)
Thanks for all the work that has gone into these episodes and looking forward to more...
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