If someone from net 4 could send an areafix/filefix message to
21:4/100, and send me a copy of it, I would appreciate it.
I just sent a netmail to Areafix and another to Filefix. No reply as yet but they have gone out.
I just sent a netmail to Areafix and another to Filefix. No reply
as yet but they have gone out.
You should see a reply. It looks like they sent out via hpt/htick.
I just sent a netmail to Areafix and another to Filefix. No reply
as yet but they have gone out.
You should see a reply. It looks like they sent out via hpt/htick.
If someone from net 4 could send an areafix/filefix message to 21:4/100, and send me a copy of it, I would appreciate it.
If someone from net 4 could send an areafix/filefix message to 21:4/10 and send me a copy of it, I would appreciate it.
I sent one around 4:00pm PST, don't have a copy. Could you check if I'm enrolled in FSX_NET?
You should see a reply. It looks like they sent out via hpt/htick.
Nothing as yet..
Nothing as yet..
Doh! Forgot to put hpt pack in the batch file... Now you should have
it. :)
I just wanted to let everyone know, the netmail issue has been resolved
on Hub 4. There was an slight order issue with the lines in the config file.
Doh! Forgot to put hpt pack in the batch file... Now you should have
it. :)
If someone from net 4 could send an areafix/filefix message to
21:4/100, and send me a copy of it, I would appreciate it.
You should see a reply. It looks like they sent out via hpt/htic
Nothing as yet..
Doh! Forgot to put hpt pack in the batch file... Now you should have it.
Oh Side note... I seem to be still getting dupes... (Possible side effect?)
I have also sent both and no replies yet...not too worried if they don't arrive soon I will just walk over to your house and ask in person for my replies! ;)
Ok as of 12PM EST I have sent 2 messages to areafix and to filefix (1 to each) Now awaiting responses.
Oh Side note... I seem to be still getting dupes... (Possible side effect?)
Do you have netmail running now Dan?
If I've been following what's happening I think Mystic strips soft CRs
so they likely both look identical on your BBS, but they didn't start
out that way. That is why you get two of them.
If I've been following what's happening I think Mystic strips
soft CRs so they likely both look identical on your BBS, but they
didn't start out that way. That is why you get two of them.
Do you know of a way to eliminate them with HPT? I've already got it
set for HashDupesWMsgId for DupeBaseType.
I see dupes too. Is it dupes from Spectre you are seeing?
How many dupes are you getting? There should have only been a couple on
the day that I switched over...
The messages are getting changed. Mystic is removing instead of ignoring the soft CRs, and there is no MSGID in the affected messages.
I think Deon was going to stop sending directly to 4/100 so you should only get
one copy from 1/100 or 2/100 and it'll have the soft CR already removed
so dupes won't (shouldn't) happen.
I know yesterday I got about 5 dupes... (nothing super major, I think
it's natural)
Today I got only 1 so far.
Ok so I will resend the areafix and filefix netmail. (If I can remember what all I can do with it)
I think Deon was going to stop sending directly to 4/100 so you
should only get one copy from 1/100 or 2/100 and it'll have the
soft CR already removed so dupes won't (shouldn't) happen.
Yep, let's see how that works.
I think Deon was going to stop sending directly to 4/100 so youYep, let's see how that works.
should only get
one copy from 1/100 or 2/100 and it'll have the soft CR already
removed so dupes won't (shouldn't) happen.
Yep, I'd call that a monkey wrench solution, but I don't see a better way at the moment.
Yep, I'd call that a monkey wrench solution, but I don't see a
better way at the moment.
Oh wait, maybe I should stop routing to 4/100?
But when Avon implements his hpt, the problem will resurface...
We need to get g00r00 to fix this... :-|
But when Avon implements his hpt, the problem will resurface...
I think Deon was going to stop sending directly to 4/100 so you
Yep, let's see how that works.
Yep, I'd call that a monkey wrench solution, but I don't see a better
way at the moment.
That monkey wrench solution may cause more monkey wrenching as we go.
I think Deon was going to stop sending directly to 4/100 so you
Actually, I was only going to do that, so we could determine if Mystic
was part of the problem.
Sounds like we've confirmed that?
Actually, I was only going to do that, so we could determine if Mystic
was part of the problem.
Sounds like we've confirmed that?
But when Avon implements his hpt, the problem will resurface...We know when Specter's soft CRs pass a Mystic BBS they will be changed (the soft CR removed). As long as there is a Mystic BBS in the works I think you should point your output to it, either or both 1/100 and 2/100.
Yeah, I think I understand the problem - maybe I'm confused about what Avon is doing. I know he was changing over to hpt, which I thought
would forward mail on to hubs and his downstream (and his downstream
would be via Mystic).
So even if I stop sending the mail to 4/100, when sending it to 1/100,
hpt would send it on as-is and 2/100 (mystic) would see a dupe (via me
and and via 1/100)?
I got Spectre's last few messages via 3/100 and 4/100, and I have not seen any dupes.
I got Spectre's last few messages via 3/100 and 4/100, and I have
not seen any dupes.
Hmm... there is something more to this then - I havent changed
anything yet.
The theory was, you should have got this via 1/100 or 2/100 as well..?
That's only a suggestion on my part, discuss all this with Avon and Dan.
Dan - dont know if you can do something on your side to detect the
dupes? Since it appears to have started recently - did I read that
you've switched over to HPT from Mystic?
I'm guessing this dupe problem will re-surface when you switch over to
HPT for hub 1...
I'm guessing this dupe problem will re-surface when you switch
over to HPT for hub 1...
I've been thinking about it. For now, don't send to hub 4. Once Paul changes things over to HPT, only send to hubs 1 & 4. At that point,
the soft CRs will not be removed, until the go through a Mystic
system, which will then be hub 2.
No problem. I've got some cold beer in the fridge. ;)
Try it again. I think I have it working 100% now. I've been running tests from the 4/10 gateway system, and have the responses flowing back out.
"Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?"
Sorry had Airplane in the brain for some reason! But yes I am getting replies now, and fast than it would take to get to your beer stash from
my house! ;)
I've been thinking about it. For now, don't send to hub 4. Once Paul changes things over to HPT, only send to hubs 1 & 4. At that point, the soft CRs will not be removed, until the go through a Mystic system, which will then be hub 2.
For the time being I think mail with soft CRs should only be sent to a Mystic BBS. If 2/100 is the only remaining Mystic in the loop then send them only to 2/100. The reason is that Mystic will pass them on changed. If some are changing and some are not there will be dupes.
For the time being I think mail with soft CRs should only be sent
to a Mystic BBS. If 2/100 is the only remaining Mystic in the
loop then send them only to 2/100. The reason is that Mystic will
pass them on changed. If some are changing and some are not there
will be dupes.
Kinda the same thinking, but looking at it a bit differently. :)
I was thinking once Paul changed over to HPT, Deon could send to hubs
1 and 4, where the soft CRs would not be changed, and then sent over
to hub 2, where they would get changed. At that point, Mystic
shouldn't send them back out as dupes, as it's the one that is
changing them...
Kinda the same thinking, but looking at it a bit differently. :) I was thinking once Paul changed over to HPT, Deon could send to hubs 1 and 4, where the soft CRs would not be changed, and then sent over to hub 2, where they would get changed. At that point, Mystic shouldn't send them back out as dupes, as it's the one that is changing them...
Kinda the same thinking, but looking at it a bit differently. :) I was thinking once Paul changed over to HPT,
Deon could send to hubs 1 and 4, where the soft CRs would not be
changed, and then sent over to hub 2, where they would get changed.
At that point, Mystic shouldn't sen them back out as dupes, as it's
the one that is changing them...
That should work as long as stuff doesn't make the rounds from net 2. If it happens that way we may need to get Deon to send to net 2. It'll get changed there but we'll all get the changed message without dupes.
A monkey wrench solution if ever there was one.. :)
But by all means try it that way and if the dupe problem persists we can try it that way. If there are a few dupes while we work through this I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Effectively, Hub 2 would recieve the same (untouched soft CRs) from hubs 1/3/4, which should in theory all dupe to the same message (after it messed with the soft CRs). Right?
We just need to make sure that Hub 2 becomes the rotten egg (gets the message last) :)
Effectively, Hub 2 would recieve the same (untouched soft CRs) from
hubs 1/3/4, which should in theory all dupe to the same message (after
it messed with the soft CRs). Right?
We just need to make sure that Hub 2 becomes the rotten egg (gets the message last) :)
Oh, could you turn of the netmail encryption between 1/100 and 4/100.
That is one thing that husky either doesn't do, or I haven't figured it out yet...
That's only a suggestion on my part, discuss all this with Avon and D
So I'm not sure if you've been following this thread - and your thoughts on this issue?
For now, I'll stop exporting to 4/100 (but can still receive), since it appears that a dupe occurs when stuff comes from 3/101 (via hub 1 or 2).
I dont think the problem is with Spectre, I think the conclusion is that mystic is transforming messages (when it shouldnt), resulting in a dupe for the nodes in Hub 4.
What would be useful is to check a packet that I export to you, and that you export to your links, and we compare the content to validate that it has changed, since g00r00 doesnt appear to be around to offer his view. (Minus seen-by and path lines.)
Dan - dont know if you can do something on your side to detect the
dupes? Since it appears to have started recently - did I read that
you've switched over to HPT from Mystic?
I'm guessing this dupe problem will re-surface when you switch over to
HPT for hub 1...
First of all, Thank you all for the well-wishes. This trip was a lot
more difficult for me than when my Dad passed three years ago. I'm glad
I was there for the service and spend time with family.
It looks like the Hub 4 system was down. I haven't looked yet to see how long it was down, or why. It is up and running again. I hope it wasn't
too long...
Anyway, I think I'm gonna go try to get some sleep. The interrupted
sleep on the plane just wasn't enough. :)
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