• Second Shot Booked

    From Warpslide@21:3/110 to All on Wednesday, June 23, 2021 16:27:26
    Hi All,

    The province I live in opened up "accelerated second doses" to my city today.

    I would have been eligible for my second shot in September, but it's now booked for July 7th.

    It was kind of an interesting experience booking the shot. The eligibility kicked in at 8am this morning, so I made sure to be on the website to book my second shot. I was then put into a "digital queue" after I entered my information, I then I had to "wait in line" for about an hour before I was able to book my second shot:

    https://ibb.co/nLPXtTn

    Once it was "my turn" I was able to select from various locations and times.

    I initially could have booked for the 2nd, but wanted to check another location for an earlier time. By the time I checked back on my original choice the time had moved up to the 7th, so I decided to snag that one before I had to wait any longer.

    Looking forward to getting my second shot, judging by how many people were "in line" and how quickly the spots were filling up, it seems like I'm not the only one looking forward to moving past all of this.


    Jay

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Warpslide on Wednesday, June 23, 2021 20:06:03
    Looking forward to getting my second shot, judging by how many people
    were "in line" and how quickly the spots were filling up, it seems like I'm not the only one looking forward to moving past all of this.

    Jay

    In my own experience, it does feel good and things change a little bit after being inoculated.

    Don't have to worry so much about mitigation - and you notice how society is moving beyond the pandemic. I hope everyone chooses to get fully vaccinated, but I think we're gonna go thru dips and gains before this is 'over'.

    Here in the states it really feels like 50/50 of people who WON'T get vaccinated. With those numbers, this thing isn't gonna be DEFEATED by any means.



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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to paulie420 on Thursday, June 24, 2021 05:34:31
    Re: Re: Second Shot Booked
    By: paulie420 to Warpslide on Wed Jun 23 2021 08:06 pm

    Here in the states it really feels like 50/50 of people who WON'T get vaccinated. With those numbers, this thing isn't gonna be DEFEATED by any means.

    I have heard than in Israel they already have a virus variant that is stomping over vaccine induced immunity. I think it is a so-called Indian strain.

    Lots of people is acting as if they are immortal just because they got the two shots. If anything, the vaccine should be considered a bulletproof vest. It may help you if you get exposed to danger but you don't want to test how good your protection is with real fire.

    /S
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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to paulie420 on Thursday, June 24, 2021 08:55:47
    On 23 Jun 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    Here in the states it really feels like 50/50 of people who WON'T get vaccinated. With those numbers, this thing isn't gonna be DEFEATED by
    any means.

    Here there is some hesitancy about mixing & matching doses.

    If you received AstraZeneca as your first done, you can choose to have it as your second, though the recommendation would be to get an mRNA vaccine instead. (Ontario stopped offering AstraZeneca as a first dose in May).

    And due to a shortage in shipments of Pfizer, if you received Pfizer as your first dose you may get Moderna instead as your second, at least until supplies stock back up in a couple of weeks. There have been reports of people walking out of their second dose appointment because they want both of their shots to be the same.

    I had Moderna as my first shot, I'd be fine with either Pfizer or Moderna as my second.


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Arelor on Thursday, June 24, 2021 17:32:59
    I have heard than in Israel they already have a virus variant that is stomping over vaccine induced immunity. I think it is a so-called Indian strain.

    Lots of people is acting as if they are immortal just because they got
    the two shots. If anything, the vaccine should be considered a
    bulletproof vest. It may help you if you get exposed to danger but you don't want to test how good your protection is with real fire.

    /S

    I agree, and think there WILL be variants that get thru the vaccine - heck, we're already hearing news articles about just that... the cruise ship [all vaccinated] where a couple attendants tested covid positive; and I've heard news reports from other countries about the same...

    I don't think my vaccine is a bullet-proof vest, but it HAS changed my mitigation and way I act... a little bit. I still wear masks when I'm shopping or in large crowds [i.e. a public event] but have stopped wearing them while outside, even if theres a couple people around...

    Basically, I'm still just following the exact guidelines that the U.S. has put out... I watch the news often to see if theres any info about 'booster vaccines' and will partake if and when they are available and we thing they're safe.

    It has been nice to be able to act a little differently, go out to eat and sometimes be around a person or two without a mask. Its human nature - that being said, I'm certainly NOT one of those anti-vaccine people or think Covid is 'no biggy'.

    :P



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Warpslide on Thursday, June 24, 2021 17:35:25
    Here in the states it really feels like 50/50 of people who WON'T get vaccinated. With those numbers, this thing isn't gonna be DEFEATED by any means.

    Here there is some hesitancy about mixing & matching doses.

    If you received AstraZeneca as your first done, you can choose to have
    it as your second, though the recommendation would be to get an mRNA vaccine instead. (Ontario stopped offering AstraZeneca as a first dose
    in May).

    And due to a shortage in shipments of Pfizer, if you received Pfizer as your first dose you may get Moderna instead as your second, at least
    until supplies stock back up in a couple of weeks.

    Wow, thats a new one to me... in the states mixing vaccines wasn't even an option - or at least I haven't heard of such... I got the Moderna one, twice. Sounds like its more an issue of not having the same vaccine available at the time its needed???

    I don't know why one would WANT to mix vaccines... hmmmm.
    Well, I guess if it was the only thing available and the professionals were telling me its safe and effective - I just haven't seen or heard about that at all.



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  • From Elf@21:1/194 to ARELOR on Friday, June 25, 2021 13:57:00
    Quoting Arelor to Paulie420 <=-

    Lots of people is acting as if they are immortal just because they got
    the two shots. If anything, the vaccine should be considered a
    bulletproof vest. It may help you if you get exposed to danger but you don't want to test how good your protection is with real fire.

    Yeah, like a shot to the head . . . no vest there. :-)

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  • From Elf@21:1/194 to PAULIE420 on Friday, June 25, 2021 13:58:00
    Quoting Paulie420 to Warpslide <=-

    I don't know why one would WANT to mix vaccines... hmmmm.
    Well, I guess if it was the only thing available and the professionals were telling me its safe and effective - I just haven't seen or heard about that at all.

    When I got my first Pfizer shot, they were clear to point out on the
    reminder card that I must get the Pfizer second shot and not to get the
    Moderna if I got the Pfizer.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Arelor on Saturday, June 26, 2021 09:39:35
    Lots of people is acting as if they are immortal just because they got
    the two shots. If anything, the vaccine should be considered a
    bulletproof vest. It may help you if you get exposed to danger but you don't want to test how good your protection is with real fire.

    I do wonder how close it is to being the risk of dying if you catch non-pandemic influenza.

    As it is, I'm trying to take as much advantage as possible with masks still being socially acceptable to wear, since hopefully it'll help me avoid getting a cold or flu for (at least) a couple of years.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Elf on Saturday, June 26, 2021 09:46:27
    I was expecting your graphic to be a tombstone, when I saw this:

    Yeah, like a shot to the head . . . no vest there. :-)

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Adept on Saturday, June 26, 2021 06:04:48
    Re: Re: Second Shot Booked
    By: Adept to Arelor on Sat Jun 26 2021 09:39 am

    Lots of people is acting as if they are immortal just because they got the two shots. If anything, the vaccine should be considered a bulletproof vest. It may help you if you get exposed to danger but you don't want to test how good your protection is with real fire.

    I do wonder how close it is to being the risk of dying if you catch non-pandemic influenza.

    As it is, I'm trying to take as much advantage as possible with masks still being socially acceptable to wear, since hopefully it'll help me avoid getti a cold or flu for (at least) a couple of years.

    I have found masks myself to be great when working in dust loaded environments. Specially when working with hay. A lot of dust makes it through still but the mask is a game changer.

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  • From Otto Reverse@21:1/225 to Elf on Monday, June 28, 2021 14:35:52
    I don't know why one would WANT to mix vaccines... hmmmm.
    When I got my first Pfizer shot, they were clear to point out on the reminder card that I must get the Pfizer second shot and not to get the Moderna if I got the Pfizer.

    They change the rules here in Canada based on supply. When all vaccine supplies were low they told us it was better to extend the second shot out to 16 weeks vice the 3 weeks recommended by the manufacturers. Now that we have more supply all provinces are allowing re-bookings of the second shot to a
    much sooner date. So I guess 16 weeks being better is no longer "science".

    Now with Pfizer supplies low they are telling us mixing and matching is fine. Before, they told us not to. Most Canadians can't see the politics of it and think our various levels of government are doing a great job. They say Canadian voters have the memory of a gold fish. Though truly I blame the modern media. Doesn't seem like they have any interest in holding our politicians to account.

    I got my notification the other day that I can now re-schedule my 2nd dose
    (it is currently scheduled for September). I looked. No Pfizer, which was
    my first dose. Only Moderna. I'm not going to mix. It may be fine, but
    just like the 16 weeks thing, the "science" on mixing vaccines may change
    again once Canada gets more Pfizer supply.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Otto Reverse on Monday, June 28, 2021 15:36:55
    They change the rules here in Canada based on supply. When all vaccine supplies were low they told us it was better to extend the second shot
    out to 16 weeks vice the 3 weeks recommended by the manufacturers. Now that we have more supply all provinces are allowing re-bookings of the second shot to a much sooner date. So I guess 16 weeks being better is
    no longer "science".

    Now with Pfizer supplies low they are telling us mixing and matching is fine. Before, they told us not to.

    I'm just guessing here, really - but I think they are both just trying to get people vaccinated no matter what... and sure, that COULD mean some negative issues for people who either mix.. or have early/late 2nd shots - OR not... but I agree with you, I don't think they freaking know. :/ I think they just want their populations vaccinated, yesterday.

    Hopefully, and I do still trust in the science that... these vaccines are safe - and aren't going to react badly because of them bending the rules a little bit; lots of thinks over the past year and a half don't pass the smell test.

    I got my notification the other day that I can now re-schedule my 2nd
    dose (it is currently scheduled for September). I looked. No Pfizer, which was my first dose. Only Moderna. I'm not going to mix. It may
    be fine, but just like the 16 weeks thing, the "science" on mixing vaccines may change again once Canada gets more Pfizer supply.

    I'm no health professional, but... I agree that I'd rather get the same vaccine method both times. It stinks that they can't, won't or are unable to simply provide you with the same one, at the CORRECT time... c'mon guys, were taking the damn thing - do your job.

    ... There is an exception to every rule, except this one.



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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to paulie420 on Tuesday, June 29, 2021 03:09:03
    Re: Re: Second Shot Booked
    By: paulie420 to Otto Reverse on Mon Jun 28 2021 03:36 pm

    I'm just guessing here, really - but I think they are both just trying to ge people vaccinated no matter what... and sure, that COULD mean some negative

    I agree, they want people vaccinated no matter what as fast as they can. However, I doubt the reason is politicians care for public health (they usually don't). Knowing how these things work, I'd bet my balls a lot of politicians
    is getting bribed to promote or enforce vaccination programs. Therefore they don't care if the timing, mixing or whatever breaks the effectiveness of the vaccine or not.

    I know it sounds paranoid but here are the parameters for a solid conspiracy theory:

    1 - Do they have a reason to do it? Yes.
    2 - Do they have the power to do it? Yes.
    3 - Do they have the power to get away with it? Yes.

    In fact I'd argue that what is nuts is to believe they are not taking profit whatever the cost and that they consider the safety of the public anything but a secondary goal.

    I mean, distributors of freaking toilet paper will do anything short of murder to secure a deal with a big hospital, and this is exchange pocket money in comparison.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Arelor on Tuesday, June 29, 2021 16:53:53
    I agree, they want people vaccinated no matter what as fast as they can. However, I doubt the reason is politicians care for public health (they usually don't). Knowing how these things work, I'd bet my balls a lot of politicians is getting bribed to promote or enforce vaccination
    programs. Therefore they don't care if the timing, mixing or whatever breaks the effectiveness of the vaccine or not.

    This isn't political, right? :P As with most things, if you follow the money you'll find whats right, wrong and everything in between... these vaccines certainly are a LOT of money - in America, we didn't have to pay a penny for a Covid vaccine. I'm sure that theres people getting [more] RICH from something that they want 100% of the population to get... [probably] multiple times in our lives.

    I find it disgusting, most of the times, WHO gets [more] rich during this unprecedented pandemic. Amazon, Rx manufacturers, politicians and the 1%... so many people have suffered over the past 2 years; so many normal people.

    Guess I should have tried to take advantage of a pandemic, too...


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Arelor on Wednesday, June 30, 2021 10:39:00
    Therefore they don't care if the timing, mixing or whatever
    breaks the effectiveness of the vaccine or not.

    On the other hand, so far the science on the efficacy of mixed doses is encouraging, and since most places are preferring the "just-in-time" method
    for delivering vaccines over keeping an inventory and delaying the vaccines, there are solid, non-conspiratorial reasons to do it.

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  • From Nuke@21:3/134 to paulie420 on Friday, July 02, 2021 10:25:52

    On 06/29/2021 1:53 pm paulie420 said...
    vaccines certainly are a LOT of money - in America, we didn't have to pay a penny for a Covid vaccine. I'm sure that theres people getting [more] RICH from something that they want 100% of the population to get...

    Oh we had to pay for it - or at least our kids will, in the form of TAXES. Money was paid for those vaccines - have no doubt about that!

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Nuke on Friday, July 02, 2021 10:15:40
    vaccines certainly are a LOT of money - in America, we didn't have to a penny for a Covid vaccine. I'm sure that theres people getting [mor RICH from something that they want 100% of the population to get...

    Oh we had to pay for it - or at least our kids will, in the form of
    TAXES. Money was paid for those vaccines - have no doubt about that!


    100% true, NUKE...

    We also paid some 30B to keep the Airlines flying. Why?



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