Fully vaccinated family, we're heading a few miles down the highway to attend an Oakland A's game today -- they're playing Tampa Bay Rays.
Feels so odd/good getting ready to go out into a more normal world
today. I hope it's starting to feel that way for others, as well.
well done and congrats. Over here they are starting to roll out the vaccines but the wider general population stuff starts around July onwards.
NZ has been quite lucky with it's management of borders and early
lock down so the widespread nature o Covid has not hit us as hard as other countries. I'll be glad to get my jabs x 2 in the next few months.
Fully vaccinated family, we're heading a few miles down the highway to attendan Oakland A's game today -- they're playing Tampa Bay Rays.
Feels so odd/good getting ready to go out into a more normal world
today. Ihope it's starting to feel that way for others, as well.
onwards. NZ has been quite lucky with it's management of borders and
early lock down so the widespread nature o Covid has not hit us as hard
as other countries. I'll be glad to get my jabs x 2 in the next few months.
Numbers are _fairly_ low here, but really only in comparison to what
came
before, or other areas of the US.
My zipcode just reported a 99% vacivation rate. Government just announced 12-15 year olds are now approved Pfizer/BioNtech so just have one more kiddo to go...
I have not eaten inside a restuarant yet, but I'm really looking forward to it, not just for myself, but for the ability to better support local businesses safely.
Next stop for the world will hopefully finally looking climate change
into the eye and doing something about it. It will be hard and uncomfortable but Covid-19 taught us that one of the most important
things in life is company with other people. Even if we have to drastically change our lifestyle to tackle climate change, we learnt
that company is much more important than luxory goods.
Adept wrote to Avon <=-
But, like many people, I'm still struggling to figure out what
activities I'm okay with. "Eating indoors at a crowded restaurant"
seems like it'll still be out ever after I'm past the two-week period.
something i would like to see, is the US, Europe, Russia, and China
all teaming up together to clean up the trash island in the middle of
the ocean.
You you seen this concept boat that "eats" garbage?
It looks like it could remove 2-3 tonnes of floating debris per hour
once it's made a reality. Imagine what a whole fleet of these could do!
You you seen this concept boat that "eats" garbage?WOW thats awesome! i think that Covid helped to show the world that if we decide to work together for the common good of all concerned, then we
It looks like it could remove 2-3 tonnes of floating debris per hour once it's made a reality. Imagine what a whole fleet of these could
can do anything.
On 12 May 2021, gcubebuddy said the following...
You you seen this concept boat that "eats" garbage?WOW thats awesome! i think that Covid helped to show the world that if we decide to work together
It looks like it could remove 2-3 tonnes of floating debris per hour once it's made a realit
Imagine what a whole fleet of these could
for the common good of all concerned, then we
can do anything.
Unfortunately, I think it's more likely to spawn the notion that if we stop dumping our garbage into t
ocean, all of the people who own and operate
these boats will lose their jobs. And we can't have that!
Jeff.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who
indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.
Unfortunately, I think it's more likely to spawn the notion that if we dumping our garbage into tI beg to differ.
ocean, all of the people who own and operate
these boats will lose their jobs. And we can't have that!
I think the notion that is going to be spawned is that it is ok to dump lots of garbage, since somebody
else is going to pick it up anyway.
i think that Covid helped to show the world that if we
decide to work together for the common good of all concerned, then we
can do anything.
Unfortunately, I think it's more likely to spawn the notion that if we stop dumping our garbage into the ocean, all of the people who own and operate these boats will lose their jobs. And we can't have that!
Jeff.
Arelor wrote to Jeff <=-
I think the notion that is going to be spawned is that it is ok to dump lots of garbage, since somebody else is going to pick it up anyway.
It looks like it could remove 2-3 tonnes of floating debris per hour
once it's made a reality. Imagine what a whole fleet of these could do!
It looks like it could remove 2-3 tonnes of floating debris per hour
once it's made a reality. Imagine what a whole fleet of these could do!
I do wonder about the efficacy of spending x amount of money for that versus x amount of money for programs to reduce the amount of trash
we're putting into the ocean.
trash that's already in the ocean as well as try and limit what goes in there.
.. when I do use plastics, I'm not actually sure where they
end up after I put them into the recycle bin. If someone
told me that they had proof that my recycle-ables ended up
in the landfill (or the ocean), I'd be angry, but not
surprised.
Curious as to your thoughts on how this happens. Is it as "simple" as
the individual cutting down on plastics use, or does the data show
that this is an "industrial waste" problem?
Canada will ban the use of certain single use plastics by the end of
this year, including:
Grocery checkout bags
Straws
Stir sticks
Six-pack rings
Plastic cutlery
Food takeout containers made from hard-to-recycle plastics
One setback that I observed in my area, during the "COVID lockdowns",
were a seemingly substantial increase in the use of plastics by restaurants.
I don't know what Oakland A's are but fully vaccinated family sounds great.
Major league baseball team. Rival of my LA Angels. :-)
PhazeVektor wrote to Warpslide <=-
trash that's already in the ocean as well as try and limit what goes in there.
Curious as to your thoughts on how this happens. Is it as "simple" as
the individual cutting down on plastics use, or does the data show that this is an "industrial waste" problem?
Admittedly, even though I take the problem seriously by cutting back on plastics, for example, when I do use plastics, I'm not actually sure
where they end up after I put them into the recycle bin. If someone
told me that they had proof that my recycle-ables ended up in the
landfill (or the ocean), I'd be angry, but not surprised.
At least 15 years, or so, ago - when we began recycling programs in my area, there was great talk in the local papers about how much of an
impact we were seeing with regards to the reduction of the amount of garbage being added to the local landfill. I was excited, until a year
or so later I saw that we were now - apparently - taking rubbish from other states, for revenue, in order to "ease [their] landfill burdens". Chalk one up for local government intervention.
Warpslide wrote to PhazeVektor <=-
All of this was then picked up by a "waste management" company and properly recycled. Any actual garbage is then sent on to a "waste-to-energy" plant where they use it to generate electricity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste-to-energy_plant
Canada will ban the use of certain single use plastics by the end of
this year, including:
Grocery checkout bags
Plastic cutlery
I've noticed a lot of places were switched from black plastic bowls
with clear plastic lids to these foldable cardboard boxes that are
coated on the inside.
I'm hoping the new ones are at least made from recyclable materials,
but I don't imagine a lot of these are being recycled after use. I
know if I'm eating a burrito out of one of those I'm not rinsing it
off, waiting for it to dry and then placing it in the bluebox (if recycling is even available in that parking lot)...
I'm hoping the new ones are at least made from recyclable materials, but
I don't imagine a lot of these are being recycled after use. I know if I'm eating a burrito out of one of those I'm not rinsing it off, waiting
Major league baseball team. Rival of my LA Angels. :-)
Fully vaccinated family here (down south) too. Well, the 14 year old
just gother first shot yesterday, but the rest of us are all well past
our second shots(Pfizer).
Plastic cutlery
What are they replacing these with?
Cardboard/paperboard with a "waxy" coating, or that has had
foodstuffs directly in contact with it, often are not accepted by
recycle programs. They used to take pizza boxes here, but quit years
ago.
Canada will ban the use of certain single use plastics by the end of this year, including:
Grocery checkout bags
These are not really single-use in my house. If they make it here without holes being poked in them, they get reused as garbage bags. Our grocery stores were taking them back for recycling, until COVID started. Now that
I am VAXed and shopping in person again, I need to see if they still do.
https://bit.ly/2S0mgyg
I bought some of these for work & keep them in my bag for
lunches.
..We keep most of our food waste in the freezer during the
week anyway to prevent any nastiness from happening.
I beg to differ.
Knowing how little winds up being recycled these days (because China
Canada will ban the use of certain single use plastics by the end of
this year, including:
Grocery checkout bags
Plastic cutlery
If it's for your own bagged lunches, why not just re-use a real
fork, knife, spoon? When you're done, just wipe it off and take it
home for a wash before reuse? ;)
..We keep most of our food waste in the freezer during the
week anyway to prevent any nastiness from happening.
Never heard of that trick.
I beg to differ.
You're all wrong... we'll keep adding to it, and when the at risk Pacific Islands submerge, they'll build on the floating heap for somewhere to
live ;)
Grocery checkout bags
Long gone here, but we replaced them with 10c reusable bags
Now if I could find a usable reusable straw so I don't have to use those
...was that the plot to Waterworld?
Hello Warpslide!
** On Saturday 15.05.21 - 16:39, Warpslide wrote to Blue White:
https://bit.ly/2S0mgyg
I bought some of these for work & keep them in my bag for
lunches.
If it's for your own bagged lunches, why not just re-use a real
fork, knife, spoon? When you're done, just wipe it off and
take it home for a wash before reuse? ;)
I just have a multi-tool set with spoon, knife and fork all in one. YOu
I just have a multi-tool set with spoon, knife and fork all in one. YOu
All in one, is that like a spornk?
https://www.filofiel.com/tiendaonline/navaja-cubierto-camping-inox-11021-p -2572 .html?zenid=fcncgq6ps00t8hf4psgvarsik3
The fork and spoon in mine are detatchable.
Hello Arelor!
** On Sunday 16.05.21 - 09:00, Arelor wrote to StormTrooper:
https://www.filofiel.com/tiendaonline/navaja-cubierto-camping-inox-11021 -2572 .html?zenid=fcncgq6ps00t8hf4psgvarsik3
The fork and spoon in mine are detatchable.
Detachable? Interesting. I always wondered how those models
worked. Otherwise it seemed rather impossible to use a
knife+fork at the same time with that thing.
I like this design myself:
https://www.ucogear.com/switch-spork-utensil-set-with-tether-
f--sp--switch
The fork serves as the "case" for the knife/spoon.
But.. if they are plastic.. then, maybe not such a great idea
aferall?
The local vintage/heritage/junk stores sell used cutlery for a
dime a dozen.
What are they replacing these with?
The last time I got takeout I had the coated cardboard box container,
but they were still giving out plastic forks. Wal-Mart is now selling disposable forks, knives & spoons made out of wood, so I have a feeling we'll see more of those:
These are not really single-use in my house. If they make it here without holes being poked in them, they get reused as garbage bags. Our grocery stores were taking them back for recycling, until COVID started. Now that
I am VAXed and shopping in person again, I need to see if they still do.
I reuse plastic and paper bags until they fall appart. They are great
to move the horses' food in manageable quantities to the barn :-) I
also reuse them as garbage bags, but I prefer dogfood and horsefood
bags for the garbage myself.
I like this design myself:
https://www.ucogear.com/switch-spork-utensil-set-with-tether-
f--sp--switch
The local vintage/heritage/junk stores sell used cutlery
for a dime a dozen.
I also have two plastics sets similar to those you have
posted. They work fine, but I still use the metal set more
often.
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Re: Garbage Island
By: Ogg to Warpslide on Sat May 15 2021 08:12 pm
Hello Warpslide!
** On Saturday 15.05.21 - 16:39, Warpslide wrote to Blue White:
https://bit.ly/2S0mgyg
I bought some of these for work & keep them in my bag for
lunches.
If it's for your own bagged lunches, why not just re-use a real
fork, knife, spoon? When you're done, just wipe it off and
take it home for a wash before reuse? ;)
I just have a multi-tool set with spoon, knife and fork all in one.
YOu can disassemble it and it with it, then you wash it and assemble
it and put it back in the suitcase. It is quite handy.
Hello Arelor.
16 May 21 05:43, you wrote to Ogg:
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Re: Garbage Island
By: Ogg to Warpslide on Sat May 15 2021 08:12 pm
Hello Warpslide!
** On Saturday 15.05.21 - 16:39, Warpslide wrote to Blue White:
https://bit.ly/2S0mgyg
I bought some of these for work & keep them in my bag for
lunches.
If it's for your own bagged lunches, why not just re-use a real
fork, knife, spoon? When you're done, just wipe it off and
take it home for a wash before reuse? ;)
I just have a multi-tool set with spoon, knife and fork all in one.
YOu can disassemble it and it with it, then you wash it and assemble
it and put it back in the suitcase. It is quite handy.
in the army here, they use this thing called "SpoonMachine":
https://vandor-turabolt.hu/MH-kanalgep
Daniel
It is interesting how some things circle back to how they used to be.
I can remember seeing some wooden cutlery as a kid, although it was usually only used forbaking. :)
Yes, I use the larger plastic bags for the kitchen garbage, but use
the smaller shopping bags for my office room and bed room. I use the shopping bags also forcarrying my not-recycleable-at-home paper trash (envelopes, junk mail, etc) to the office, where we can recycle it.
I just have a multi-tool set with spoon, knife and fork all in one. Y
All in one, is that like a spornk?
All in one, is that like a spornk?
I definitely should've searched for that in my attempts at figuring out what it was / how likely it'd be something that I'd actually carry
around.
Wait, that was literally your take away?
Like... I didn't see that at all. I saw a majority of AMERICA acting
like f00king idiots and....
Disconnect - I didn't experience your statement at ALL, and I saw the exact opposite. IMO. :P
Warpslide wrote to PhazeVektor <=-
Probably both. A couple of jobs ago the company I worked for was very bullish about "zero waste to landfil" from our location. Part of this included removing the garbage & recycling bins from everyone's desks.
Now if you wanted to throw something out, you had to get up from your
desk and go to a nearby central location and throw your item into one
of 4 colour coded bins. Waste, Compost, Paper or Plastics.
Ogg wrote to Warpslide <=-
If it's for your own bagged lunches, why not just re-use a real
fork, knife, spoon? When you're done, just wipe it off and
take it home for a wash before reuse? ;)
StormTrooper wrote to Arelor <=-
I just have a multi-tool set with spoon, knife and fork all in one. YOu
All in one, is that like a spornk?
Alpha wrote to Digital Man <=-
Most of my family lives in Southern California, all Angels fans. If I didn't live near Oakland, they'd probably be my team (could never
support the Giants). Rock on!
StormTrooper wrote to Arelor <=-
I just have a multi-tool set with spoon, knife and fork all in one. YOu
All in one, is that like a spornk?
Looked more like a spknoop to me.
My local camping outlet has Sporks right next to Foons. Not sure of the difference between the two.
Warpslide wrote to Blue White <=-
We do something similar. For the kitchen we buy larger bags, but for
the bathrooms & offices we use shopping bags from stores. We *used* to use them for kitty litter as well, but quickly found that those bags
were not very strong... :\
I just have a multi-tool set with spoon, knife and fork all in one. YOu can disassemble it and it with it, then you wash it and assemble it and put it back in the suitcase. It is quite handy.
Now if you wanted to throw something out, you had to get up from your
desk and go to a nearby central location and throw your item into one
of 4 colour coded bins.
San Francisco was pretty bullish about that, and the building
management was doing some level of trash-shaming and letting tenants
know when they weren't in compliance with city regulations.
The waste management company one county down was amazing - they
invested in state of the art reclaimation systems and boasted of
huge percentages of recyclable materials going to their recycling facilities - even when tossed into their garbage cans. And they
charged less!
... The answers will be found in the logs.
We *used* to use them for kitty litter as well, but quickly found that those bags were not very strong... :\
Ouch, not a good time to find out they are not strong enough, either.
:o :D
Quoting Gcubebuddy to Paulie420 <=-
There were definatly moments where humanity acted selfishly. however, everyone world wide, instantly conformed to new behaviour patterns of social distancing, wearing masks (for the most part), and using hand sanitizer almost overnight. thats pretty amazing if you really think
about it. when has that ever happened before world wide? The doctors
who were developing the drugs, had worked with other doctors from different countries to help create cures that would have taken 10 years
or more to create and test. all the riots and social unrest helps to
point humanities attention to socially hidden issues that are now
coming to the surface to be dealt with. There is actaully great
potential to transform humanity as those issues are now on the surface
and has everyones attention. I may be optimistic, but that is probably just my perspective on things. :-)
There were definatly moments where humanity acted selfishly. however, everyone world wide, instantly conformed to new behaviour patterns of
maybe: sporks = northern hemisphere foons = southern hemisphere
Quoting Gcubebuddy to Paulie420 <=-
There were definatly moments where humanity acted selfishly. however, everyone world wide,
instantly conformed to new behaviour patterns of social distancing, wearing masks (for the
most part), and using hand sanitizer almost overnight. thats pretty amazing if you really
think
about it. when has that ever happened before world wide? The doctors who were developing the drugs, had worked with other doctors from different countries to he
create cures that would have taken 10 years
or more to create and test. all the riots and social unrest helps to point humanities attention to socially hidden issues that are now coming to the surface to be dealt with. There is actaully great potential to transform humanity as those issues are now on the surface and has everyones attention. I may be optimistic, but that is probably just my perspective
things. :-)
The trick is in remembering what the world has done. Unfortunately, the human race has a short attention span and an even shorter memory. :-)
... Rotisserie: a ferris wheel for chickens.
___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30
Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
sporks = northern hemisphere
foons = southern hemisphere
Blue White wrote to Arelor <=-
When I was in scouts, I had a utensil set that sounds similar. ;) It
may have been some kind of military surplus.
Spectre wrote to Ogg <=-
maybe: sporks = northern hemisphere foons = southern hemisphere
Never come across the term foon before. I see an image for foon with a spoon bowl on each tine of a fork ;)
The trick is in remembering what the world has done. Unfortunately, the human race has a short attention span and an even shorter memory. :-)
Wait, that was literally your take away?
There were definatly moments where humanity acted selfishly. however, everyone world wide, instantly conformed to new behaviour patterns of social distancing, wearing masks (for the most part), and using hand sanitizer almost overnight. thats pretty amazing if you really think
about it. when has that ever happened before world wide? The doctors who were developing the drugs, had worked with other doctors from different countries to help create cures that would have taken 10 years or more to create and test. all the riots and social unrest helps to point
humanities attention to socially hidden issues that are now coming to
the surface to be dealt with. There is actaully great potential to transform humanity as those issues are now on the surface and has everyones attention. I may be optimistic, but that is probably just my perspective on things. :-)
... The answers will be found in the logs.
Like looking for a needle in a haystack!
On 05-18-21 03:07, Arelor wrote to Elf <=-
The speed with which vaccines were developed suggests to me that they either had the work done in
advance or that they rushed it. Or both.
Vk3jed wrote to Warpslide <=-
head, tail and grep are your friends. :D
On 05-19-21 16:47, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to Warpslide <=-
head, tail and grep are your friends. :D
Tail can get you head... but grep? That's another story <G>
... Used Taglines for Sale, get them while they're hot!
If it's for your own bagged lunches, why not just re-use a real
fork, knife, spoon? When you're done, just wipe it off and
take it home for a wash before reuse? ;)
One of those with the little round hooks that hook them all together?
I snicker when I see titanium sporks at the camping store for 10x the price of a scouts utensil kit. If I need to save 50 grams of weight,
I'm better off buying the cheap kit, putting down the sandwich and pocketing the cost difference. :)
Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-
You've never grepped in the dark? :D
Hot - as in 5 finger discounts? ;)
On 05-19-21 20:48, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-
You've never grepped in the dark? :D
I'm a little more careful than that... just like I don't take cream in
me coffee - better aim ya know <G>
Hot - as in 5 finger discounts? ;)
Whatever works - go for it!
Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-
... You bring this networks ratings down, and we'll do a special on
you!
On 05-20-21 07:14, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Most television networks bring their own ratings down, especially the
more they air politicians on them!
... Learn PC terms: https://www.n1uro.com/~n1uro/terms/
I snicker when I see titanium sporks at the camping store for 10x the
Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-
... Learn PC terms: https://www.n1uro.com/~n1uro/terms/
ROFLMAO!
... Learn PC terms: https://www.n1uro.com/~n1uro/terms/
ROFLMAO!
Did you make it through em all? Most of those I came up with less than a year ago <G>
Ogg wrote to N1uro <=-
Those are excellent. Some sound familiar though.
On 05-21-21 00:41, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-
... Learn PC terms: https://www.n1uro.com/~n1uro/terms/
ROFLMAO!
Did you make it through em all? Most of those I came up with less than
a year ago <G>
Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-
Yeah, noticed some modern ones. :)
On 05-22-21 12:31, N1uro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to N1uro <=-
Yeah, noticed some modern ones. :)
Some of those took me a good while to think of! The mind is a terrible thing <G>
... Benign - What you be, after you be eight
Yer actually right.
I think a lot of people dropped the ball, but I'm sure there are those that think my way of doing things wasn't the right way to respond...
Good perspective, rockstar.
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