hi all question im running mystin in a windows 10 box and i want to run some door games do anyone have any door games that will work
links to download of you can upload to familybbs.ddns.net
hi all question im running mystin in a windows 10 box and i want to run some door games do anyone have any door games that will work
links to download of you can upload to familybbs.ddns.net
cool great i think i mite look at rasberry pi as a os and redo this board it mote be a bit more stable that 64 bit windows trying to run old stuff
sound like a plan ill log in and have a look what your telnet address
i hade a mandrake system and that was a nightmare
this and see how i go i think i have most things working just door games
I remember using that years ago before it became Mandrake. One good thing about the RPi is that almost everything you would want to use it for has been done by someone out there. May I suggest heading over there & setup an email subscription to their newsletter. With it once a month comes a link to download the "official" Pi magazine for free.
The only bad thing about running anything DOS on the Pi is the architecture being ARM...so DOSEMU won't run on it. On the other hand...DOSBox runs well on it. Have even seen a current BBS running Renegade under it on the Pi.
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I hear Synchronet and Mystic run fairly well under Pi.
On 01-12-20 20:17, Phoobar wrote to The Millionaire <=-
I hear Synchronet and Mystic run fairly well under Pi.
Haven't tried Synchronet under the Pi...but as for Mystic...was running
on a Zero and ran better than under Windows.
The problem I had was if I'd been running Linux/*nix as an admin for years...I would've been able to figure out the issues I was
having...such as why messages weren't saving to the HDD & not going
out. Seems like the issues I was having I could solve under
Windows...but was kicking my butt in Linux.
thanks phoobar whats the telnet address to your board so i can login
I'm running both Synchronet and Mystic on the same Banana Pi (the
original Banana Pi). They both run very well.
Yes, prior Linux experience helps. Both of my installs were very painless, as have been subsequent upgrades to both BBSs. I have
multiple specific IPs But as an old hand at Linux, that's no biggie,
once I learnt how each specific piece of software (Mystic, Syncronet and BinkD) handles binding to arbitrary addresses (each is different!). :)
On 01-13-20 05:03, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Nice! Been working on setting up WWIV 5 on this box to see if I can set
it up to connect with WWIVNet...rather than WWIVFTN.
You'll notice I didn't say never say never...just right now...can concentrate on what I know & then go back to it at a later date.
Nice! Been working on setting up WWIV 5 on this box to see if I can s it up to connect with WWIVNet...rather than WWIVFTN.Cool, I'd like to try that at some stage. WWIV and WWIVnet do interest me.
On 01-13-20 20:33, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Mark Hofmann over at Weather Station BBS who runs WWIVNet/WWIVFTN is on here. Love the network...just wished there was more traffic on it.
If I can get the software setup correctly...am going to jump for joy.
It's updated quite a bit. Several people have been talking about seeing
if it can be set up on an RPi 4 in the future. The source code is under the Apache license & open.
Mark Hofmann over at Weather Station BBS who runs WWIVNet/WWIVFTN is here. Love the network...just wished there was more traffic on it.Yes, it has been a bit quiet. How much is actually gated to FTN? I am
on the FTN side.
I'm more likely to use an old (x86-64) netbook, simply
because I have a pile of these machines kicking around, whereas I would have to buy a Pi.
On 01-14-20 19:37, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
The thing I love about all the networks we deal with is they aren't run like FidoNet. Reminds me when I got my Tech ticket in 2007 & could use
50 Mhz and above. The local nets would be shouting matches with idiots
who were more than willing to screw you if they can get away with it. Meant me not getting on the air at all for several years.
For some reason...seem to remember stuff like the Doctor Who echo &
such aren't carried on the FTN. For me...want to see if I can actually
set up WWIV to do what Mystic can do with all the networks...even if
just WWIVNet.
Don't mind buying another Pi...if it would do the project I needed it
to do. Personally...would love to get an old Dell or other dinosaur to
run OS/2 on. For that matter...wouldn't mind getting an old XP netbook/notebook to setup AROS or something like it. For that
matter...if I could get my hands on an old Amiga & throw a Vampire card
in it...be a hell of a box to run a board on.
Meant me not getting on the air at all for several years.Yeah, every network is different, which is good. :)
Yeah that means more expense and delays, though I do love the Pi as a platform.
Don't mind buying another Pi...if it would do the project I needed it to do. Personally...would love to get an old Dell or other dinosaur to run OS/2 on. For that matter...wouldn't mind getting an old XP netbook/notebook to setup AROS or something like it. For that
matter...if I could get my hands on an old Amiga & throw a Vampire card
in it...be a hell of a box to run a board on.
On 01-15-20 04:55, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Meant me not getting on the air at all for several years.Yeah, every network is different, which is good. :)
Like all the networks I'm on & trying to get on. Don't have to deal
with the BS on Fido or FB.
Broke down right before bed last night & put into Google "Free Lessons
for Linux". Came up with a ton of stuff. Love the online stuff & free
is just the right cost. It's time after 20 years to learn some more.
Not all of Fido is bad, just steer clear of a few sysop echos. :D
2 Things Phoobar, you can get i3 Dell's on eBay for like $30 plus shipping. I bought 2 of them one for $40 and 1 for $30.. The $40 one had free shipping, and the $30 one shipping was $20. They are both i3 3.3ghz (Don't need anything faster to run a board on) one only had 4gigs of Ram and the other had 8gigs of ram.
currently running a Emulated CNet Amiga BBS on the i3 with 4 gigs of
ram, WinUAE emulates a A4000 with 256 megs of Fast Ram, 8 megs of Chip
Ram and has a 500gig HD on it. Is it fast? Hell yea, it is faster then a real A4000.. THe other one? I run a Commodore 64 BBS (Image BBS 2.0) on Emulated. My Image 1.2 and 3.0 (PreAlpha) runs on real Commodore Hardware.. So I guess what I am saying is you can run an Amiga without having to spend the ridiculous money people want for the machines. I
have another PC setup with 6 AmigaOS systems (1.3-4.1) being Emulated on it also. THe only one I am not finished with is my 4.1 emulation as I am going to be emulating a PowerPC to run it, I have done it in the past
and it runs and works great! Unless you want to waste money on a real Amiga emulate one until you want to go full time.. Plus running BBS' on emulation works real well!
Not all of Fido is bad, just steer clear of a few sysop echos. :D
is just the right cost. It's time after 20 years to learn some more.Cool, enjoy! :)
If I could find 1 in someone's garage cheap...then a real Amiga would work.
In terms of WINUAE...actually spent the money last year on Amiga/C64 Forever...so wouldn't have too much work to get the system setup...like
on Amibian. To hear how well these Dell's work on decently emulating anything Commodore put out there is what I've been wanting to hear.
Will take a look to see what I can find of the old Dell's. Thanks for telling me about how well it works for you.
I just setup a WinUAE to run it and like I said it runs great..
The old Dell's are fantastic for what I have them do, I have a 3rd one which I bought that has a i5 3.5ghz with 16gigs of Ram and a TB HD, I
On 01-15-20 21:08, Captain Obvious wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 16 Jan 2020, Vk3jed said the following...
Not all of Fido is bad, just steer clear of a few sysop echos. :D
Sometimes that's where the entertainment is. I almost always at least peruse them, and the politics echoes.
On 01-15-20 19:14, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Not all of Fido is bad, just steer clear of a few sysop echos. :D
Guess I'll talk to Avon about getting FidoNet feeds. In terms of here & the other nets we use with past experience...kind of disappointing they would be run like this.
is just the right cost. It's time after 20 years to learn some more.Cool, enjoy! :)
Just wish I wasn't hitting up against 60...so could go back into the business & get out of retail.
When he told me that 1 pallet cost around $1500 US...that's more money than I have. Add to that only having a 50cc scooter to get around with here in Oregon...kind of keeps you humble & wet 8 months out of the year.
Cool. Given that WWIVnet works quite differently to FTN, that still
doesn't tell me much about what proportion of areas are exported. No
biggie, was just curious. Of course, I could always install WWIV and see
for myself, but that's going to take a little while.
I know the feeling.. I don't have that type of money either and it is killing me as I lost out on a deal that would have netted me 75 i3
3.4ghz machines!
Saw quite a few of the core 2's...i3/i5's. Most were going for around $50-75 US. A great deal when I looked at it earlier this evening. On the other hand...got a gander at some of the mini's. Even some of the
laptops were in the same price range of the desktops...but these mini's...for the cost...should buy a full blown server class machine for the money...since I'd be getting my money's worth.
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On 01-17-20 14:51, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yes, it has been a bit quiet. How much is actually gated to FTN? I am on the FTN side.
All the WWIVnet message areas that my system hosts are gated (there is
a list of them in the WWIVnet nodelist out on GitHub). Normally most people post on the Chat and Development ones. Probably should be consolidated to just those two.
Just wish I wasn't hitting up against 60...so could go back into the business & get out of retail.Yeah I'm not sure where I'm going next. Hitting some crossroads at 51, but have access to a lot more help to find my way this year and onwards.
I know.. A lot of folks like the mini's, me ah I can take them or leave them not a lot of expansion. The way I look at it with the full size desktops if I remove the CD, I can fit 4 HD's in it if I have to, but at
pops up. Most of the time I will get a bunch.. I am considering buying a pallet of off lease Dell's (about 20 to 40 per pallet) for like $1500,
We use them at work hooked to the back of the monitors. Love having them out of the way...but the Pi's are even better for that.
Bought an air fryer a year ago from a guy here locally who does the same thing & makes a living out of it. When I was over there...he showed me
his overstuffed garage of pallets he bought from CostCo of out-of-season merchandise. Live in an apartment...so it would be kind of hard to do the same thing without throwing $60-80 a month for a storage unit.
I just gotta talk the money man into it.. LOL
Bucko wrote to Phoobar <=-
The old Dell's are fantastic for what I have them do, I have a 3rd one which I bought that has a i5 3.5ghz with 16gigs of Ram and a TB HD
Phoobar wrote to Bucko <=-
out-of-season merchandise. Live in an apartment...so it would be kind
of hard to do the same thing without throwing $60-80 a month for a
storage unit.
out-of-season merchandise. Live in an apartment...so it would be kind of hard to do the same thing without throwing $60-80 a month for a storage unit.If it becomes a business expense, you could write off the cost.
On 01-17-20 20:40, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
My big concern is here in Hell Central where if you're poor...maybe
forced to try to subsist on less than I'm making now. I may have to
take government retirement of Social Security when I can't physically
work anymore. Buddy of mine had to do that & it's not fun.
On 01-18-20 09:08, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Cool. Given that WWIVnet works quite differently to FTN, that still
doesn't tell me much about what proportion of areas are exported. No biggie, was just curious. Of course, I could always install WWIV and see for myself, but that's going to take a little while.
These are gated and available on the WWIVFTN side:
If it becomes a business expense, you could write off the cost.
I've been keeping my eye out for one of the Dell Optiplex 9xx series
mini- towers. They've got a decent amount of room inside, and onboard
RAID - at least Raid 1, maybe 5. Throw a couple of cheap SATA drives in
it and you've got a nice level of insurance.
I've got a T3400 workstation at my desk now running RAID 1, and it makes drive failures a piece of cake. Power down, swap out the failed drive,
let it rebuild in the background, and you're back up and running.
At least I eventually have the aged pension as a fallback, eventually,
but that's still many years away. Hopefully, I can get something better happening before then. :)
Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-
At least I eventually have the aged pension as a fallback, eventually,
but that's still many years away. Hopefully, I can get something better happening before then. :)
If I had realized 30+ years ago the BS the US would be now...
I should've married a non-US citizen and permanently left
this country.
What's wrong with the US now...? Other than the obvious political bickering, things seem to be going pretty smoothly, to me. I
certainly can't complain about the economy or the stock market.
Why? Do you think you'd be better off right now if you had done
that? In what country would you rather be?
Phoobar wrote to Gamgee <=-
What's wrong with the US now...? Other than the obvious political bickering, things seem to be going pretty smoothly, to me. I
certainly can't complain about the economy or the stock market.
[rant]
If you have the money to deal in the stock market and other
gambling ventures...then you/those like yourself would not have
an issue. For the rest of us who are getting the shaft sideways &
have been since ragin' ronnie went senile...things have always
been bad & will get worse if the orange turd & those just like it
have their way. You claim to be doing great...how about those
negative interest rates? [end of rant]
Why? Do you think you'd be better off right now if you had done
that? In what country would you rather be?
[rant]
It has been shown all the more over the years since the
'80's...that the poor/middle class have gotten worse & worse in
the US. The information out there has shown that any citizen in
the EU & other industrialized countries are doing better because
of their safety net...while the safety net here has been
disappearing.
Add onto that...you have conservatives who complain about
morals/ethics (which most have none)...but the situation they
have left the poor/middle class with more children born out of
wedlock without getting married. The biggest reason is when
someone can't get a job which pays enough to provide for a
family...why bother? [end of rant]
You asked me why I have answered/believe the way I do. Told you.
As for myself...this is going to be the last thing I will be
saying about this topic because this country would love for
people to work themselves to death as long as they get their
profits.
If I had realized 30+ years ago the BS the US would be now...I should've married a non-US citizen and permanently left this country. As we joke about at work when we unpack appliance's...save the box...that's going to be my new condo a few years from now.
What's wrong with the US now...? Other than the obvious political
bickering, things seem to be going pretty smoothly, to me. I
certainly can't complain about the economy or the stock market.
If you have the money to deal in the stock market and other gambling ventures...then you/those like yourself would not have an issue. For the rest of us who are getting the shaft sideways & have been since ragin' ronnie went senile...things have always been bad & will get worse if the orange turd & those just like it have their way. You claim to be doing great...how about those negative interest rates? [end of rant]
It has been shown all the more over the years since the '80's...that the poor/middle class have gotten worse & worse in the US. The information out there has shown that any citizen in the EU & other industrialized
countries are doing better because of their safety net...while the safety net here has been disappearing.
Add onto that...you have conservatives who complain about morals/ethics (which most have none)...but the situation they have left the poor/middle class with more children born out of wedlock without getting married. The biggest reason is when someone can't get a job which pays enough to
provide for a family...why bother? [end of rant]
You asked me why I have answered/believe the way I do. Told you. As for myself...this is going to be the last thing I will be saying about this topic because this country would love for people to work themselves to
death as long as they get their profits.
Hope this new year is better for you.
Phoobar wrote to Gamgee <=-
Hope this new year is better for you.
It already is. Got out early today & changed the motor/gear oil
on my scooter. After the past year of not being able to afford
motor oil & everything else...I feel better now. Getting more
hours at work doing a job I like...better...you bet your butt
it's going to be a better year!
Weatherman wrote to Phoobar <=-
If you have the money to deal in the stock market and other gambling ventures...then you/those like yourself would not have an issue. For the rest of us who are getting the shaft sideways & have been since ragin' ronnie went senile...things have always been bad & will get worse if the orange turd & those just like it have their way. You claim to be doing great...how about those negative interest rates? [end of rant]
Negative interest rates? Are you sure you are in the US? My
accounts are doing just fine.
It has been shown all the more over the years since the '80's...that the poor/middle class have gotten worse & worse in the US. The information out there has shown that any citizen in the EU & other industrialized
countries are doing better because of their safety net...while the safety net here has been disappearing.
Add onto that...you have conservatives who complain about morals/ethics (which most have none)...but the situation they have left the poor/middle class with more children born out of wedlock without getting married. The biggest reason is when someone can't get a job which pays enough to
provide for a family...why bother? [end of rant]
That is why it is up to the individual to gain necessary skills
to obtain a job
that does pay enough to support a family. Most do. The only
ones that don't are meant for people in high school getting a
summer job.
Unemployement in the US is at the lowest level in our lifetime -
3.6%. If a person can't find a job at this point in time, you
are unemployable.
You asked me why I have answered/believe the way I do. Told you. As for myself...this is going to be the last thing I will be saying about this topic because this country would love for people to work themselves to death as long as they get their profits.
Working is not a bad thing. The people that don't will remain
poor and complain endlessly.
Agreed. Hard work and education is what creates success. Being
lazy on either one of them is a guarantee of not being successful.
Oh, and education takes many forms, not all of which include the
word "college".
Agreed. Hard work and education is what creates success. Being
lazy on either one of them is a guarantee of not being successful.
Oh, and education takes many forms, not all of which include the
word "college".
Unemployement in the US is at the lowest level in our lifetime - 3.6%. If a person can't find a job at this point in time, you are unemployable.
Yep. A person in that situation today needs to re-evaluate what
they're doing, and take action to change their odds. Learning a trade/marketable skill is usually the first step.
Weatherman wrote to Gamgee <=-
Things have never been better in the US in my lifetime.. No complaints here.
On 01-22-20 07:28, Weatherman wrote to Gamgee <=-
So true. Everyone learns differently. Learning skills through apprenticeships, cross training, trades of all sorts are perfectly
great options to college. And don't forget the major bonus of not
being in huge debt
from the start by going the apprenticeship route.
never ends. Learning is a never ending process and what makes me
excited to do things each day.
Weatherman wrote to Gamgee <=-
Things have never been better in the US in my lifetime.. No
complaints here.
The economy sure is better than it ever has been during my working lifetime, which is well over half of it now. The only complaint I
would have is that we also seem more divided than we have been
during my adult lifetime. There was still some Vietnam-era strife
going on during my young childhood but I cannot remember it well
enough personally to make a comparison there. The current division
has been going on since before the previous Presidential election.
I somehow feel as though there is a portion of our population who
likes it that way... that real life has to be like daytime talk
show TV.
I don't know how true any of what I have to add here is, its only heresay and possibly incorrectly recalled. But the US is s'posed to have a lot of "working poor", they work, some in what here would be defined as good
jobs, trades amongst them, and yet they live below the poverty line. Whatever exactly that is. Some people working and they've never been on welfare in their life and not doing any better than someone on welfare. Others give up and fall back to welfare.
The impression I was left with is that in general the US doesn't seem to value any kind of manual labour skilled or otherwise. Which will be interesting when
you get to a point theres no skilled labour and you need some.
Thats what they used to tell us in Oz anyways...
The economy sure is better than it ever has been during my working lifetime, which is well over half of it now. The only complaint I would have is that we also seem more divided than we have been during my adult lifetime. There was still some Vietnam-era strife going on during my
young childhood but I cannot remember it well enough personally to make a comparison there. The current division has been going on since before the previous Presidential election. I somehow feel as though there is a
portion of our population who likes it that way... that real life has to
be like daytime talk show TV.
The economy sure is better than it ever has been during my working lifetime, which is well over half of it now. The only complaint I would have is that we also seem more divided than we have been during my adult lifetime. There was still some Vietnam-era strife going on during my young childhood but I cannot remember it well enough personally to make a comparison there. The current division has been going on since before
the previous Presidential election. I somehow feel as though there is a portion of our population who likes it that way... that real life has to be like daytime talk show TV.
And these days, tradespeople often earn more than many educated professionals -
there's often a shortage of skilled tradies. Apprenticeships are certainly
a good and much needed option.
I blame social media. Some nasty people post crap that is untrue and
meant to rile people up, people see it, get riled up and repost it and
the crap goes viral without anyone doing any fact checking - people
share cos their friend shared and so it must be true. It ends up just getting people angry. It happens so often over the years I think people
are just in a state of constant anger.
I've debated jumping into this conversation, and I'm doing so against my better judgement...lol. But I'm employed, skilled, and living with my equally employed/skilled girlfriend. Sure, the economy is strong, but not really any of it trickles down to us. We're in our late 30s and we have basically no prayer of ever owning a home, and it would be extremely difficult for us to start a family. We're also struggling to prepare for retirement.
Consider the fact that even as recently as the 90s, working a 40 hour workweek in really most jobs would be enough to pay down some sort of mortgage. That's simply no longer the case. For a lot of younger people in the workforce, no matter how skilled (exception being
doctors/lawyers.etc), there doesn't appear to be a way out of
hand-to-mouth apartment dwelling and into the traditional successful American lifestyle.
Spectre wrote to Gamgee <=-
Agreed. Hard work and education is what creates success. Being
lazy on either one of them is a guarantee of not being successful.
Oh, and education takes many forms, not all of which include the
word "college".
Unemployement in the US is at the lowest level in our lifetime - 3.6%. If a person can't find a job at this point in time, you are unemployable.
Yep. A person in that situation today needs to re-evaluate what
they're doing, and take action to change their odds. Learning a trade/marketable skill is usually the first step.
I don't know how true any of what I have to add here is, its
only heresay and possibly incorrectly recalled. But the US is
s'posed to have a lot of "working
poor", they work, some in what here would be defined as good
jobs, trades amongst them, and yet they live below the poverty
line. Whatever exactly that is. Some people working and they've
never been on welfare in their life and not doing any better than
someone on welfare. Others give up and fall back to welfare.
The impression I was left with is that in general the US doesn't
seem to value any kind of manual labour skilled or otherwise.
Which will be interesting when you get to a point theres no
skilled labour and you need some.
Thats what they used to tell us in Oz anyways...
On 01-22-20 21:18, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
And these days, tradespeople often earn more than many educated professionals -
there's often a shortage of skilled tradies. Apprenticeships are certainly a good and much needed option.
Very true!!!
Trades are often overlooked, since the agenda has always been pushing college and the expenses that go along with it down everyone's throat.
It isn't for everyone and lots of money can be made that do not require college at all.
apam wrote to Blue White <=-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh well, I guess it's just the age we live in, in my personal beliefs I tend to lean towards the left, but extremes in both directions can be
distasteful.^^^^^^^^^^^^
Spectre wrote to Gamgee <=-
The impression I was left with is that in general the US doesn't seem
to value any kind of manual labour skilled or otherwise. Which will be interesting when you get to a point theres no skilled labour and you
need some.
is that a person MUST have SOME kind of a skill to succeed, and
that doesn't strike me as surprising or unfair.
One of the things that I think needs reform is that many, many
people here are able to trick/play the system and get benefits
that they abuse and don't deserve. It reaches a point where
that's all they want to do, instead of working. Often that passes
from generation to generation, and they become dependent on the
government. I'm for cracking down on that and only supporting the
people who actually really do need help. Helping the lazy is
against my principles.
Very true, and a trade suits hands on practical people better, as well as being a lucrative source of income. At least here, it seems good tradies
are in short supply, so the future of apprentices would seem fairly secure for a while at least.
And these days, tradespeople often earn more than many educated professionals - there's often a shortage of skilled tradies. Apprenticeships are certainly a good and much needed option.
Blue White wrote to Spectre <=-
Spectre wrote to Gamgee <=-
The impression I was left with is that in general the US doesn't seem
to value any kind of manual labour skilled or otherwise. Which will be interesting when you get to a point theres no skilled labour and you
need some.
I would not say that the US as a whole does not value manual
labour. I would say that there are a lot of individuals who do
not. They believe that a person has to go to college because
they are too good for manual labour, and then they wind up in
jobs that don't pay them much, probably because they majored in
something that is totally not in demand.
Meanwhile, their friend who they've always thought of as being
dumber than them is making a whole lot more money because they
learned a trade instead of going to college.
If I had kids, and they seemed better with their hands or spacial
things than they were at taking classes, I think I would steer
them towards trade school. The World needs fewer political
science majors.
My biggest problem with most trades is the longevity of the person in the trade. Just quickly mulling that over for a moment, I realised its not
going to be true for all trades, but construction trades, especially if you're in "new commerical building" work can be pretty harsh on your body.
On 01-23-20 21:13, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Very much the same over here in the US. The world needs mechanics, carpenters,
plumbers, builders, farmers, etc. They are not low paying jobs if you put forth the effort. Lots of demand over here and the best part. No college debt.
On 01-23-20 15:38, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
My biggest problem with most trades is the longevity of the person in
the trade. Just quickly mulling that over for a moment, I realised its not going to be true for all trades, but construction trades,
especially if you're in "new commerical building" work can be pretty
harsh on your body.
I'm probably not a good example, I've drifted in and out of painting pretty much as the wind blows, but 30 years later, I wouldn't be able
to put out the intensity required to make a job worthwile. And anyone that knows me knows thats cause my backs knackered. But I would see plenty of guys particularly with buggered knees, and sometimes stuffed backs... that were stuck on a merry go round and wanting to get off.
It seems to make for a miserable end to your working life...
Yep, not a bad deal really, when you look at it, provided you're good with your hands. Unfortunately, I'm not. :/
At least I eventually have the aged pension as a fallback, eventually,
but that's still many years away. Hopefully, I can get something better
happening before then. :)
If I had realized 30+ years ago the BS the US would be now...I
should've
married a non-US citizen and permanently left this country. As we joke about
at work when we unpack appliance's...save the box...that's going to be
my new
condo a few years from now.
As much as I as a citizen of the supposedly socialist Sweden hate paying taxes, it sure is nice to know there is some security in form of dirt cheap health care, decent pensions and other stuff needed to be able to live. I can see the appeal of a capitalist state such as the USA but
the flip side to that is the countless millions that doesn't "make it"
and is forced to live in their car or whatever.
As much as I as a citizen of the supposedly socialist Sweden hate paying taxes, it sure is nice to know there is some security in form of dirt cheap health care,
I can see the appeal of a capitalist state such as the USA but
the flip side to that is the countless millions that doesn't "make it"
and is forced to live in their car or whatever.
On 01-26-20 09:15, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yep, not a bad deal really, when you look at it, provided you're good with your hands. Unfortunately, I'm not. :/
There are also designers, space planners, CAD engineers which are less physical
hands on, but still in that general trade space.
Bucko wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I've got a 3020, 790, 7010. Not sure if they do RAID but it's worth looking into I have so many extra HD's sitting around here it's
pitiful. I could swap out the ones in them and put in 2 same size and
Raid them.. Thanks for the idea...
Pretty sure it's just the 9XX series with onboard RAID. I did have a
cheap $20 RAID 1 card back in the day, so an add-on card's a possibility.
There's a package called UNRAID that looks like an interesting way to throw a bunch of similar/dissimilar drives into an array. I'm looking
into that at work.
Weatherman wrote to Spectre <=-
My biggest problem with most trades is the longevity of the person in the trade. Just quickly mulling that over for a moment, I realised its not going to be true for all trades, but construction trades, especially if you're in "new commerical building" work can be pretty harsh on your body.
Agreed and the plan to handle that would be to work towards management, design,
or other less physical aspect of the trade by the time you get older
and no longer can handle the physical aspect.
Fortunately modern tools have made trades less harsh on the body over
the years. I still would love to have an excuse to buy a plasma
cutter. :)
- Mark
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Yes, it has been a bit quiet. How much is actually gated to FTN? I am on
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On 01-23-20 15:38, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
And these days, tradespeople often earn more than many educated professionals - there's often a shortage of skilled tradies. Apprenticeships are certainly a good and much needed option.
My biggest problem with most trades is the longevity of the person in
the trade. Just quickly mulling that over for a moment, I realised its not going to be true for all trades, but construction trades,
especially if you're in "new commerical building" work can be pretty
harsh on your body.
I'm probably not a good example, I've drifted in and out of painting pretty much as the wind blows, but 30 years later, I wouldn't be able
to put out the intensity required to make a job worthwile. And anyone that knows me knows thats cause my backs knackered. But I would see plenty of guys particularly with buggered knees, and sometimes stuffed backs... that were stuck on a merry go round and wanting to get off.
It seems to make for a miserable end to your working life...
thanks phoobar whats the telnet address to your board so i can login
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