• Revision 2021

    From Adept@21:2/108 to All on Monday, April 05, 2021 00:41:54
    As I write this, Revision 2021 is wrapping up (still some concert time and results left).

    I was hoping I'd be in Germany for this party, and it happen in person, but COVID made this and the last party virtual. And I'm currently in California
    as part of my job.

    So much for that.

    But I did get to enter the paint-over compo, which, of course, I used an ANSI editor as part of making it.

    Anyway, it turns out that, despite making it 160 columns wide, there's a
    decent 80-column ANSI hiding in what I did, so I figured I'd share it here in the next post (and apologies to all the BBS message bases I screw up, again).

    There were lots of other interesting things in the demo party (I was
    especially impressed by the demo "Arcade" by Spectrals), so if anyone else watched any portion of it, do say something.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Adept on Monday, April 05, 2021 14:58:58
    On 05 Apr 2021 at 12:41a, Adept pondered and said...

    Anyway, it turns out that, despite making it 160 columns wide, there's a decent 80-column ANSI hiding in what I did, so I figured I'd share it
    here in the next post (and apologies to all the BBS message bases I
    screw up, again).

    Looking good :) Well done and thanks for sharing. I'm not much of an ANSI artist myself but if I do draw something I'll be sure to share it.

    I was hoping I'd be in Germany for this party, and it happen in person, but COVID made this and the last party virtual. And I'm currently in California as part of my job.

    So much for that.

    Hopefully there will be another year when you can get to it.

    There were lots of other interesting things in the demo party (I was especially impressed by the demo "Arcade" by Spectrals), so if anyone
    else watched any portion of it, do say something.

    Have not watched this but it sounds interesting. Hopefully there may be a few folks about who did and can offer some feedback.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Avon on Monday, April 05, 2021 05:19:01
    Looking good :) Well done and thanks for sharing. I'm not much of an ANSI artist myself but if I do draw something I'll be sure to share it.

    Hey, if you average making an ANSI a day for 9 months, I'm sure your skills will improve. :)

    I still don't especially consider myself an artist, but I highly doubt I would've ended up with anything remotely as good as that ANSI 8 months ago.

    Hopefully there will be another year when you can get to it.

    Yeah. Certainly the whole vaccination thing has made things somewhat more hopeful. I _should_ be able to take my turn before _too_ long.

    especially impressed by the demo "Arcade" by Spectrals), so if anyone else watched any portion of it, do say something.

    Have not watched this but it sounds interesting. Hopefully there may be
    a few folks about who did and can offer some feedback.

    I know there are at least a couple of demosceners on FSXnet, though open question on who watched some of Revision.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Adept on Monday, April 05, 2021 16:50:36
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    As I write this, Revision 2021 is wrapping up (still some concert time
    and results left).

    I liked seeing your work popup.. for a minute I thought it didn't because I hadn't seen you in ANSI/ASCII/PETSCII... but then notcied there were other artistic compo's. The party was awesome, aside from the 20 minutes or so that the bangate happened.

    It's neat to see so many sides of the... 'tech' community come together and jive. Revision Party 2021: Together was rad. :P



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to paulie420 on Tuesday, April 06, 2021 03:21:28
    I liked seeing your work popup.. for a minute I thought it didn't
    because I hadn't seen you in ANSI/ASCII/PETSCII... but then notcied
    there were other artistic compo's. The party was awesome, aside from the 20 minutes or so that the bangate happened.

    Yay! It's neat when people manage to recognize my alias, despite how little work I've put out into the broader world.

    But in talking in Revision chat rooms, someone else recognized my alias from the demo I made, and that was 3.5 years ago.

    I'm still sad I didn't enter the ANSI/ASCII/PETSCII compo, but it was a situation where I had been busy at work, and didn't really even think to take the time until the deadline had whooshed by.

    I'll definitely submit something in future demo parties, though. I am kind of wondering if I should release my ANSI calendar as a wild entry. But I'm
    unsure on that one on many levels.

    I do feel like it should evolve into some other sort of adjacent work,
    though, whether a physical calendar, a demo, or something else.

    It's neat to see so many sides of the... 'tech' community come together and jive. Revision Party 2021: Together was rad. :P

    Indeed! I'm glad I got to see as much as I did. Hopefully I'll be there in person next year.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to paulie420 on Tuesday, April 06, 2021 03:35:35
    I liked seeing your work popup.. for a minute I thought it didn't
    because I hadn't seen you in ANSI/ASCII/PETSCII... but then notcied
    there were other artistic compo's.

    I know I'm responding twice to the same message, but seeing it again reminded me that the first demoscene-related thing I did was making music mods.

    Then the next category I hit was making a demo.

    And now I'm doing visual art things, if only really ANSI-related things, so far.

    Most of the demoscene categories seem way more plausible to me because of
    that sort of history.

    I wonder if that's how it is for other people.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Adept on Monday, April 05, 2021 22:45:43
    I'll definitely submit something in future demo parties, though. I am
    kind of wondering if I should release my ANSI calendar as a wild entry. But I'm unsure on that one on many levels.

    You already know I want to display it on 2o... if you ever change your mind...



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Adept on Monday, April 05, 2021 22:47:43
    I liked seeing your work popup.. for a minute I thought it didn't because I hadn't seen you in ANSI/ASCII/PETSCII... but then notcied there were other artistic compo's.

    I know I'm responding twice to the same message, but seeing it again reminded me that the first demoscene-related thing I did was making
    music mods.

    Then the next category I hit was making a demo.

    And now I'm doing visual art things, if only really ANSI-related things, so far.

    Most of the demoscene categories seem way more plausible to me because of that sort of history.

    I wonder if that's how it is for other people.


    I like you. Tee hee.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to paulie420 on Wednesday, April 07, 2021 04:05:08
    I'll definitely submit something in future demo parties, though. I am kind of wondering if I should release my ANSI calendar as a wild entr But I'm unsure on that one on many levels.

    You already know I want to display it on 2o... if you ever change your mind...

    Yeah, I suppose it's the sort of thing where I'm delaying deciding much until the first draft of the calendar is done.

    But that date is getting surprisingly close. Since I'm 286 ANSIs in, and probably only need 96 more to have a first version.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Adept on Wednesday, April 07, 2021 18:06:27
    You already know I want to display it on 2o... if you ever change you mind...

    Yeah, I suppose it's the sort of thing where I'm delaying deciding much until the first draft of the calendar is done.

    But that date is getting surprisingly close. Since I'm 286 ANSIs in, and probably only need 96 more to have a first version.

    I wish there was just a thumbs up, or an upvote feature... but - I've enjoyed seeing your project grow.. I need to login to STORM soon to checkup on the last month or so.

    I think I've told you, but its also been cool to see YOU grow - your ANSI's today are... I don't wanna say better but... THEY'RE F**(NG WAY BETTER than when you started. :P

    Cheers Adept.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to paulie420 on Thursday, April 08, 2021 02:29:13
    I wish there was just a thumbs up, or an upvote feature... but - I've

    Thanks! I definitely appreciate your support, as you've been vocal about it. You've been pretty good about supporting people's BBS-related endeavors in general, and that's pretty neat. I know it makes the project that much more interesting to me, even if I'd finish the project regardless of if anyone
    else saw it.

    I think I've told you, but its also been cool to see YOU grow - your ANSI's today are... I don't wanna say better but... THEY'RE F**(NG WAY BETTER than when you started. :P

    Hah! Thanks for the compliment.

    Though looking back at some of the stuff I did back in July (like tell an old-joke day, with a chicken on the other side of a road and a sign that
    says, "why"), and it doesn't seem like my stuff is _that_ much better.

    But there's a lot of skills around the edges that are better. E.g., there's a wider variety of things I can draw, I can take a couple of lines from a paint-over thing and turn it into something that looks like a human, and so
    on.

    And now I wonder if I could do something like that with GIMP.

    But I'm not sure if I have any compelling reason to do so. I think I might
    have more interest in learning Blender, and even that I'd probably only do if
    I am unable to get my previous Blender artist to contribute to future
    projects.

    Anyway, I hope that others talk about their artist endeavors like I have.
    It's fun to see what other people come up with, too, like seeing what The Godfather and Meatlotion have made. Knowing them makes it all the more interesting.

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.1 to Adept on Wednesday, April 07, 2021 20:17:06
    But I'm not sure if I have any compelling reason to do so. I think I
    might
    have more interest in learning Blender, and even that I'd probably
    only do if
    I am unable to get my previous Blender artist to contribute to future projects.

    Blender is an awesome and complex tool, I think you'd really dig it. A
    few years ago--more like 5, LOL--I was using it to create/learn 3D stuff
    with some Unity integration. I even did a little WebGL stuff with Amnesty International and did a 3D thing on a barrel bomb experience with some
    Syrian activists/survivors (https://bit.ly/3dLmbGc).

    I'm still amazed that something like Blender exists, and it's as good as
    any commercial software.





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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Alpha on Thursday, April 08, 2021 13:10:26
    I'm still amazed that something like Blender exists, and it's as good as any commercial software.

    Yes, blender pretty much can do anything that "professional" 3d apps can do now. its been used on professional projects too. Gimp and Inkscape are also really great as well. Krita from KDE also does some pretty high end stuff as well. But blender is def one of my favs. :-)

    Thanks
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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to gcubebuddy on Thursday, April 08, 2021 17:23:30
    I'm still amazed that something like Blender exists, and it's as good any commercial software.

    Yes, blender pretty much can do anything that "professional" 3d apps can do now. its been used on professional projects too. Gimp and Inkscape
    are also really great as well. Krita from KDE also does some pretty high end stuff as well. But blender is def one of my favs. :-)


    I think Blender is what the video editor OPENSHOT uses for some transitions and titles...

    I haven't been able to get those titles working well yet; but was impressed when I saw that it used the other application.

    I've seen some Blender wizards... create killer effects on video stuff. w0w.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Alpha on Friday, April 09, 2021 04:51:27
    Blender is an awesome and complex tool, I think you'd really dig it. A

    Yeah, I think I was well sold on it even before your pitch, though I assume it's like GIMP, where there's a steep, highly-frustrating learning curve.

    I'm past that learning curve with GIMP, so now it's a neat tool.

    I'm still amazed that something like Blender exists, and it's as good as any commercial software.

    Yeah. Me too. And one of those interesting things, where I'm not about to
    learn how to use Photoshop or an expensive commercial 3D modeling tool,
    because it'll take about as long to learn the open-source tools,

    with some Unity integration. I even did a little WebGL stuff with Amnesty International and did a 3D thing on a barrel bomb experience with some Syrian activists/survivors (https://bit.ly/3dLmbGc).

    That's pretty neat. Well, okay, doing the project is neat; obviously the subject matter is pretty depressing.

    ...not that I'm currently getting it to work in my browser (and much too late for me to debug too much), but I can't imagine that was a quick process, regardless of the quality and your skill with the tools.

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