Hello Ozz,

Some folks in Fidonet are wondering about you. Your node in net 275 is not listed anymore, and your 1:1/123 node is not answering at saltairbbs.com

Someone in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo said that you are not a member of the FTSC, based I think on your apparent absence.

Have you changed nets, or maybe your only node is 1:1/123? In any event, you may want to get your mailer up and/or make yourself known.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Someone in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo said that you are not a member of
the FTSC, based I think on your apparent absence.

Al, could you please email a copy of your FTSC_PUBLIC jam base? I'm
noticing some weird word wrap bugs on your BBS, I think I may have fixed
it but want to test before I commit.

Thanks,

Andrew

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand - telnet://magickabbs.com:2023/ (21:1/126)

Have you changed nets, or maybe your only node is 1:1/123? In any event, you >may want to get your mailer up and/or make yourself known.

Thanks. I replied to Andrew ~ my listener is not up, especially when I
run out of town unexpectedly... Nick will probably protect my node for
me - as I know it is actively polling him for Fido, and Avon for
FSXNet.

Thank you for the heads up!
Ozz
--- Professional BBS v16 FTN Tosser/JAM v1.19.10 (Alpha-3)
* Origin: ProBBS WHQ (This is the Palladium Build) (21:1/144)

On 01 Dec 19 22:34:54, Ozz Nixon said the following to Al:

Have you changed nets, or maybe your only node is 1:1/123? In any event, y >may want to get your mailer up and/or make yourself known.

Thanks. I replied to Andrew ~ my listener is not up, especially when I
run out of town unexpectedly... Nick will probably protect my node for
me - as I know it is actively polling him for Fido, and Avon for
FSXNet.

Shit happens. Don't worry about your 1:1/123 entry.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (21:1/176)

Hello Ozz,

Thanks. I replied to Andrew ~ my listener is not up, especially when I
run out of town unexpectedly... Nick will probably protect my node for
me - as I know it is actively polling him for Fido, and Avon for
FSXNet.

Awesome. I posted in FTSC_PUBLIC that you were out of town and will get your mailer back up when you return.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Shit happens. Don't worry about your 1:1/123 entry.

As always Nick, thanks!

Ozz
--- Professional BBS v16 FTN Tosser/JAM v1.19.10 (Alpha-3)
* Origin: ProBBS WHQ (This is the Palladium Build) (21:1/144)

Awesome. I posted in FTSC_PUBLIC that you were out of town and will get your >mailer back up when you return.

Thank you also!!
Ozz
--- Professional BBS v16 FTN Tosser/JAM v1.19.10 (Alpha-3)
* Origin: ProBBS WHQ (This is the Palladium Build) (21:1/144)

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally got one...but
the hub provides very little information on how to connect with him...except for telling me I'm using the wrong address/password. He logged onto my BBS and finally provided the password he had setup for me...rather than the one I set up originally.

Is there a way to use another hub in another region? Can I tell this hub to take a flying leap or forget about using FidoNet? All the other networks have bent over backwards to help me...but it's almost like I forgot to buy my
magic ring...am not part of the cabal or I'm too stupid to waste their time
on. Didn't use to be this way...but they seem to be extra proud of being a vestage of what they used to be.

Feel free to provide any information about other networks where we won't have to beg for the information we need or where those of us who love this way of life are the ones they serve

Phoobar.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

On 09 Dec 19 19:18:18, Phoobar said the following to All:

Is there a way to use another hub in another region? Can I tell this hub to take a flying leap or forget about using FidoNet? All the other networks hav bent over backwards to help me...but it's almost like I forgot to buy my magic ring...am not part of the cabal or I'm too stupid to waste their time

I'm not sure who it was, but you are more than welcome to obtain the Fido stuff directly from me... I'm the ZC1.

Atreyu

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (21:1/176)

Hello Phoobar,

Is there a way to use another hub in another region?

Yes, connect with the nodes or nodes of your choosing.

Can I tell this hub to take a flying leap or forget about using
FidoNet?

I would just connect elsewhere for mail and files if something is up there and it can't otherwise be solved.

All the other networks have bent over backwards to help me...but it's almost like I forgot to buy my magic ring...am not part of the cabal
or I'm too stupid to waste their time on. Didn't use to be this
way...but they seem to be extra proud of being a vestage of what they
used to be.

You can connect here if you like. I'm almost certain it will be a painless experience.. :)

21:4/106 or 1:153/757.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

I'm not sure who it was, but you are more than welcome to obtain the
Fido stuff directly from me... I'm the ZC1.

Would be great if I could do this...especially since several co-workers would love to see some of the forums available on FidoNet.

Will send you a netmail with my info & anything else you may need.

This is why I love this network, People are willing to help & do what needs
to be done to help others.

Thank you for all your help.

Phoobar

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

Thank you for the offer! Atreyu has offered to do this as well...so am going
to send him a netmail message & get it set up.

Love this network!

Phoobar

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

On 09 Dec 2019 at 07:39p, Phoobar pondered and said...

This is why I love this network, People are willing to help & do what needs to be done to help others.

Thank you for all your help.

Happy to offer you a feed of echomail etc. also if you wish. I know Al and
Nick will look after you too :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Quoting Phoobar to All <=-

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally got
one...but the hub provides very little information on how to connect

At least you finally got one. I'm having doubts about the NC for my area.
I've netmailed him a number of times since October 26th...nada. Not a peep from him. I've all but given up on it at this point.

Didn't use to be this way...

No, no it did not.

-CJ

___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32
* Origin: CJ's Place, Orange City FL > cjsplace.thruhere.net (21:2/156)

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally got one...but the hub provides very little information on how to connect with him...except for telling me I'm using the wrong address/password.
He logged onto my BBS and finally provided the password he had setup
for me...rather than the one I set up originally.

;) I thought thats what fido was all about. Veiled thinly in secrecy, if you don't know enough voodoo to sort yourself out, no one will help you, its one of
the gateways to the secret fraternity. In this day and age you'd think it should be the other way around... still some people are slow learners :)

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Thank you for the offer! Atreyu has offered to do this as well...so
am going to send him a netmail message & get it set up.

No worries.. if you ever do (or anyone else,also) need a fido feed.. feel
free to look me up.

Love this network!

Yeah!

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally
got one...but the hub provides very little information on how
to connect

At least you finally got one. I'm having doubts about the NC for
my area. I've netmailed him a number of times since October
26th...nada. Not a peep from him. I've all but given up on it at
this point.

If you need a fido feed or just a little help I'll see what I can do. One
of my links is the region 18 coordinator and he could help I'm sure. I
don't mind rattling his chains if you like.

If you can't raise an NC I'd hit him up, Mark Lewis at 1:3634/12.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

Re: RE: Fidonet
By: Al to Chris Johnson on Tue Dec 10 2019 01:17 am

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally
got one...but the hub provides very little information on how
to connect

At least you finally got one. I'm having doubts about the NC for
my area. I've netmailed him a number of times since October
26th...nada. Not a peep from him. I've all but given up on it at
this point.

If you need a fido feed or just a little help I'll see what I can do. One of my links is the region 18 coordinator and he could help I'm sure. I don't mind rattling his chains if you like.

If you can't raise an NC I'd hit him up, Mark Lewis at 1:3634/12.

Thanks Al, I appreciate it. I'm going to wait a few more weeks...it's not earth shattering, just a little irritating. He may have other issues going on that may be keeping him from getting to it, who knows.

Thanks!
-CJ
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32
* Origin: CJ's Place, Orange City FL > cjsplace.thruhere.net (21:2/156)

Happy to offer you a feed of echomail etc. also if you wish. I know Al
and Nick will look after you too :)

Thank you for the offer! Sent a netmail off to Atreyu with all the
information.

Phoobar

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

At least you finally got one. I'm having doubts about the NC for my
area. I've netmailed him a number of times since October 26th...nada.
Not a peep from him. I've all but given up on it at this point.

I sent out that message thinking it must be something about me being a legacy
& coming back to the fold after all these years...but to see messages like this...it's not just me.

Didn't use to be this way...

No, no it did not.

I know coming to 58 means my memories can be clouded...but this message & others show me that I'm not that far gone.

Thank you for letting me know I'm not the only one.

Phoobar

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

him...except for telling me I'm using the wrong address/password.
He logged onto my BBS and finally provided the password he had setup for me...rather than the one I set up originally.

;) I thought thats what fido was all about. Veiled thinly in secrecy,
if you don't know enough voodoo to sort yourself out, no one will help you, its one of the gateways to the secret fraternity. In this day and age you'd think it should be the other way around... still some people are slow learners :)

WOW! I was chatting with Avon several weeks ago about this & when it happened to me...that conversation came back to mind.

You're right...we are the future & it seems like they are doing everything to stay in the 80's/90's...rather than realize they are a fraction of what they used to be & will continue the slide.

Phoobar

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

No worries.. if you ever do (or anyone else,also) need a fido feed.. feel free to look me up.

Thank you and everyone on here for letting me know this isn't something
because I should've been wearing my tin foil hat when I applied. ;)

Phoobar

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

Re: Re: Fidonet
By: Phoobar to Chris Johnson on Tue Dec 10 2019 04:54 am

I sent out that message thinking it must be something about me being a

legacy

& coming back to the fold after all these years...but to see messages like this...it's not just me.

Didn't use to be this way...

No, no it did not.

I know coming to 58 means my memories can be clouded...but this message & others show me that I'm not that far gone.

Thank you for letting me know I'm not the only one.

Hahaha! You're still young! At least, I'll tell you that because I'm right behind you. ;) Being "legacy" as you put it, I think we just need to lower our
expectations a smidge. I was a hub in the Orlando network (Net 363 when it existed) in the 90's, and I think my expectations may have been set a little high going into applying for a node. Ah well, live and learn.

-CJ
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32
* Origin: CJ's Place, Orange City FL > cjsplace.thruhere.net (21:2/156)

Quoting Phoobar to Atreyu <=-

Would be great if I could do this...especially since several
co-workers would love to see some of the forums available on FidoNet.

You'll be happy. Nick has been my fightonet feed for more years then
either of us care to admit. I can count on one hand the times it's
gone down and most of those were scheduled. LOL

Shawn

... All right, so I like spending money! But name one other extravagance.

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
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Atreyu wrote to Phoobar <=-

I'm not sure who it was, but you are more than welcome to obtain the
Fido stuff directly from me... I'm the ZC1.

Could one work with you to get their nodelist entries changed and get a new node number? :) I am trying to supply echos to one of Janis's former
dial-up nodes and the pseudo node method I am trying to use is not working
so well. :)


... "I'm cold, and there are wolves after me!"-Granpa Simpson
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Phoobar wrote to All <=-

Is there a way to use another hub in another region? Can I tell this
hub to take a flying leap or forget about using FidoNet? All the other

You can connect to other systems for echomail (I do) but, if you want to
keep routed netmail flowing it is best not to tell him/her to take a flying leap. :) I would attempt to maintain a connection just for netmail.

... "Tryin' is the first step towards failure." - Homer
--- MultiMail
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Hello Phoobar,

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally got one...but the hub provides very little information on how to connect with him...except
for telling me I'm using the wrong address/password. He logged onto my BBS and
finally provided the password he had setup for me...rather than the one I set up originally.

Sad to hear that. When I as an RC get a node number request I try to respond to
the request within 24-48 hours. It doesn't make sense to me for a *C to be complacent considering the shrinking population of Fidonet.

Is there a way to use another hub in another region? Can I tell this hub to take a flying leap or forget about using FidoNet?

You are free to acquire a feed for mail and/or files from whoever agrees to feed you. Regardless of what Fidonet Zone/Region/Net you or they are in. Although feeds are usually acquired within the same zone.

Let me know if I can be of any assistance. I can be reached via netmail at 1:14/5 or via email at jeffs@region14.org.

Jeff

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
* Origin: FSXNET: The Ouija Board - bbs.ouijabrd.net (21:1/128)

At least you finally got one. I'm having doubts about the NC for my area. I've netmailed him a number of times since October 26th...nada. Not a peep from him. I've all but given up on it at this point.

If you are talking about a Fido Net address. I am hub for 1:124/* and
can assign you a number. Just send me your particulars and I will do it
and also can feed you also echo and files. You really can get anyone to
feed you so you are not stuck with me.

Send email to rcs@rdfig.net or rdfigueroa@gmail.com
BBS Name:
Your Name:
Telnet address:
binkp address:
(include port on both above if not standard port)

If you want me to feed you pass on areafix password and areafix password
and session password.



--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: WildCat Prison BBS, Mesquite, Tx (21:5/100)

If you are talking about a Fido Net address. I am hub for 1:124/* and
can assign you a number. Just send me your particulars and I will do it and also can feed you also echo and files. You really can get anyone to feed you so you are not stuck with me.

Send email to rcs@rdfig.net or rdfigueroa@gmail.com
BBS Name:
Your Name:
Telnet address:
binkp address:
(include port on both above if not standard port)

If you want me to feed you pass on areafix password and areafix password and session password.

Hi Ruben,

If you don't mind, I'd like to get setup on Fidonet as well. Would it be okay if I email you with my details?

Thanks,
Mike

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Stellar Darkness BBS, Toronto, Canada (21:4/162)

Hi Ruben,

If you don't mind, I'd like to get setup on Fidonet as well. Would it be okay if I email you with my details?

Sent ya an email with your info

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pbmystic.rdfig.net:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

What?!? Never, NEVER take off the tin foil hat. =]

don't forget what happened to "that one guy".

Thank you and everyone on here for letting me know this isn't something because I should've been wearing my tin foil hat when I applied. ;)

Phoobar

--
Ratz Å SysOp @ Freeside

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Freeside BBS - Cincinnati, USA - freeside.bbs.io (21:2/114)

What?!? Never, NEVER take off the tin foil hat. =]

don't forget what happened to "that one guy".

Yeah, I'm still hurtin'!

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- MagickaBBS v0.13alpha (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)

On 12-10-19 04:54, Phoobar wrote to Chris Johnson <=-

At least you finally got one. I'm having doubts about the NC for my
area. I've netmailed him a number of times since October 26th...nada.
Not a peep from him. I've all but given up on it at this point.

I sent out that message thinking it must be something about me being a legacy & coming back to the fold after all these years...but to see messages like this...it's not just me.

Depends on the NC. Mine is very good. I actually sent my Fidonet application the old fashioned P4 way (using crash netmail to /9999), and I was setup within a couple of days. :) So here in my part of Z3, no complaints. :)


... Emergency repair procedure #1: Kick it.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.51
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

You'll be happy. Nick has been my fightonet feed for more years then
either of us care to admit. I can count on one hand the times it's
gone down and most of those were scheduled. LOL

The one thing I've seen in my short time here is that someone tells you something...they are more than willing to help & they do so.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

On Mon 9-Dec-2019 7:34p, Al@21:4/106.0 said to Phoobar:

Hello Phoobar,

You can connect here if you like. I'm almost certain it will be a painless experience.. :)

Sorry Al, he speaks the truth Phoobar. Al fed me my Fidonet at a time I couldn't get a reliable feed from anyone. He's YOUR guy at Fidonet (except Nick) :-)

----------------
| Mick Manning |
----------------
--- CNet/5
* Origin: Central Ontario Remote CNet 21:1/156.1 (21:1/156.1)

You can connect to other systems for echomail (I do) but, if you want to keep routed netmail flowing it is best not to tell him/her to take a flying leap. :) I would attempt to maintain a connection just for netmail.

I would never be that direct with anyone on the nets. Has a way of coming
back to bite ya big time.

In terms of connection...every email has been kicked back as unreachable & can't connect with his system.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

Sad to hear that. When I as an RC get a node number request I try to respond to the request within 24-48 hours. It doesn't make sense to me
for a *C to be complacent considering the shrinking population of
Fidonet.

With the holiday season here...knew it would take a while longer to get a number. It has seemed to be like visiting the dentist after he contacted me with messages of one-two sentences. Got the indication that I was just bothering him with asking questions every other network provided in their
thank you message about joining the net. I could be wrong...but fully understand when someone thinks you are bothering them.

Let me know if I can be of any assistance. I can be reached via netmail
at 1:14/5 or via email at jeffs@region14.org.

Thank you so much for the offer. If only I got this much information from the hub...I wouldn't have posted the message.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

What?!? Never, NEVER take off the tin foil hat. =]

Used to drive by Area 51 when making the trip from Vegas to Twin Falls, ID.
For some reason...I could never get the radio loud enough to cover the broadcasts even multiple layers of heavy duty foil never stopped.

don't forget what happened to "that one guy".

I remembered him. He got probed (like Fat Bas1ard from Austin Powers
with that tracking device)...rather than embedding the chip like the rest of
us got.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

don't forget what happened to "that one guy".

Yeah, I'm still hurtin'!

Guess that brings a new meaning to "whistlin' Dixie" or singing Moon River as
a soprano? ;)

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

Depends on the NC. Mine is very good. I actually sent my Fidonet application the old fashioned P4 way (using crash netmail to /9999), and
I was setup within a couple of days. :) So here in my part of Z3, no complaints. :)

True! Knew there were NC's which will be more than happy to help everyone
they could.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

Hahaha! You're still young! At least, I'll tell you that because I'm right behind you. ;)

Was talking with the manager where I work. Mentioned my age & he/my
co-worker's jaws dropped when I said my ago. Said I didn't look that old. If
I ever get carded...usually hug/kiss whoever asks.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: ACME BBS-I taut I taw a puddy tat! (21:2/147)

Ratz wrote to Phoobar <=-

What?!? Never, NEVER take off the tin foil hat. =]

don't forget what happened to "that one guy".

Hat? My whole computer room is lined in tin foil! :D


... Internal Error: The system has been taken over by sheep at line 19960
--- MultiMail
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Hat? My whole computer room is lined in tin foil! :D

Go the Farraday Cage :)


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

On 12-10-19 17:58, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Depends on the NC. Mine is very good. I actually sent my Fidonet application the old fashioned P4 way (using crash netmail to /9999), and
I was setup within a couple of days. :) So here in my part of Z3, no complaints. :)

True! Knew there were NC's which will be more than happy to help
everyone they could.

Yes, there's still good people in Fidonet. :)


... All warranties expire upon payment of invoice.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.51
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109)

On 09 Dec 2019, Phoobar said the following...

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally got
one...but the hub provides very little information on how to connect
with him...except for telling me I'm using the wrong address/password.
He logged onto my BBS and finally provided the password he had setup for me...rather than the one I set up originally.

Is there a way to use another hub in another region? Can I tell this hub to take a flying leap or forget about using FidoNet?

As far as I'm aware, Hubs are a per region thing. If your BBS is located in a certain region, you have to go through that speicific hub, no exceptions. If anything, I don't particularly care for FidoNet due to its' restrictions and how formal it feels. Hell, i've been thinking of making my own network.. with blackjack and hookers. :P

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FidoNet due to its' restrictions and how formal it feels. Hell,
i've been thinking of making my own network.. with blackjack and
hookers. :P

It's the natural progression of things, first BBS sysop then Network coordinator... Setting up a net is fun, but expect everyone to tell you
that we don't need more empty networks etc.

Andrew

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As far as I'm aware, Hubs are a per region thing. If your BBS is
located in a certain region, you have to go through that speicific
hub, no exceptions.

No, there are no restrictions. Any fido node can connect where they
please for mail & files.

You need to talk to the NC of the net you want to join to get nodelisted
and that NC will likely want to have secure session with your node for
netmail since it is his/her duty to make that available to nodes in the
net but nodes are free to collect mail & files where ever they like.

Back in the dial up days each net likely had hubs where nodes could get
mail and files if that's what they wanted to do. Even then nodes could
collect mail and files where ever they wanted. It might have been costly,
but they have always been free to do that.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Yes, there's still good people in Fidonet. :)

That's why I came back to the life.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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Hell, i've been thinking of
making my own network.. with blackjack and hookers. :P

Reminds me of an old song from Dr. Demento many years ago.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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On 11 Dec 2019, Nodoka Hanamura said the following...

As far as I'm aware, Hubs are a per region thing. If your BBS is located in a certain region, you have to go through that speicific hub, no

You generally get your node number based on your region (not always) but you can get your mail feed from any hub.

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On 10 Dec 2019, Blue White said the following...

Hat? My whole computer room is lined in tin foil! :D

How's the WiFi in there?

Ian

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On 09 Dec 19 19:39:45, Phoobar said the following to Atreyu:

I'm not sure who it was, but you are more than welcome to obtain the Fido stuff directly from me... I'm the ZC1.

Would be great if I could do this...especially since several co-workers woul love to see some of the forums available on FidoNet.

Will send you a netmail with my info & anything else you may need.

Please email me if I do not receive it within a reasonable amount of time.

nandre@net229.org

Atreyu

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On 10 Dec 19 09:37:54, Blue White said the following to Atreyu:

I'm not sure who it was, but you are more than welcome to obtain the Fido stuff directly from me... I'm the ZC1.

Could one work with you to get their nodelist entries changed and get a new node number? :) I am trying to supply echos to one of Janis's former dial-up nodes and the pseudo node method I am trying to use is not working so well. :)

Netmail or email me about this. 1:229/426 or nandre@net229.org

Atreyu

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On 10 Dec 19 18:04:55, Phoobar said the following to Cj:

Was talking with the manager where I work. Mentioned my age & he/my co-worker's jaws dropped when I said my ago. Said I didn't look that old. If I ever get carded...usually hug/kiss whoever asks.

I'm in my early 40's and I *still* get carded when buying booze sometimes.

Atreyu

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Please email me if I do not receive it within a reasonable amount of
time.
nandre@net229.org

Will kick it out to you this evening before I hit the sack to be in the salt mines at 6 AM.

Thank you again for all your help.

Phoobar

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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I ever get carded...usually hug/kiss whoever asks.

I'm in my early 40's and I *still* get carded when buying booze
sometimes.

Makes me feel like I'm still in the early 80's before I really started losing my hair.

True story...when I moved to Colorado...then later Oregon...asked if "bald"
was a hair color choice & they say yes. This & savings tons of money on not going to the barber...am happy. ;)

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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Hello Spectre,

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally
got one...but the hub provides very little information on how
to connect with him...except for telling me I'm using the
wrong address/password. He logged onto my BBS and finally
provided the password he had setup for me...rather than the
one I set up originally.

;) I thought thats what fido was all about. Veiled thinly in
secrecy, if you don't know enough voodoo to sort yourself out, no
one will help you, its one of the gateways to the secret
fraternity. In this day and age you'd think it should be the other
way around... still some people are slow learners :)

I've not seen you apply or ask about a node number since I became the NC
for souther n australia since 2009.





\/orlon



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Depends on the NC. Mine is very good. I actually sent my Fidonet application the old fashioned P4 way (using crash netmail to
/9999), and I was setup within a couple of days. :) So here in my
part of Z3, no complaints. :)

/vorlon waves!




\/orlon



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I've not seen you apply or ask about a node number since I became
the NC for souther n australia since 2009.

That'd be right. After a short stint long ago, I've not been terribly interested in Fido.

Spec


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On 09 Dec 2019, Phoobar said the following...

After waiting for three weeks to get a node number...finally got
one...but the hub provides very little information on how to connect
with him...except for telling me I'm using the wrong address/password.
He logged onto my BBS and finally provided the password he had setup for
me...rather than the one I set up originally.

Is there a way to use another hub in another region? Can I tell this hub
to take a flying leap or forget about using FidoNet?

As far as I'm aware, Hubs are a per region thing. If your BBS is
located in a
certain region, you have to go through that speicific hub, no
exceptions. If
anything, I don't particularly care for FidoNet due to its'
restrictions and
how formal it feels. Hell, i've been thinking of making my own
network.. with
blackjack and hookers. :P

Sign me up-

Also - I get my fidonet feed from a very friendly person in Finland since I really can't be bothered with the HUB's in Sweden where one is a maniac and the
other is very nice but has a limited amount of echos to offer.

(Yeah - I'm yet again a member of Fidonet but it's for my users on the BBS - I don't participate at all anymore...)


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Erazmus wrote to Blue White <=-

Hat? My whole computer room is lined in tin foil! :D

How's the WiFi in there?

Welllll.... :D


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Atreyu wrote to Blue White <=-

Netmail or email me about this. 1:229/426 or nandre@net229.org

If I do not hear from the LNC soon I will be in touch. Thanks!!


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Hello Spectre,

I've not seen you apply or ask about a node number since I
became the NC for souther n australia since 2009.

That'd be right. After a short stint long ago, I've not been
terribly interested in Fido.

Well now you know, and the offer is always open.




\/orlon



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Hey Al. Haven’t heard from you in a while. What’s up these days?

$ The Millionaire $
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On 12-11-19 05:04, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yes, there's still good people in Fidonet. :)

That's why I came back to the life.

Same here too. :)


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On 12-12-19 23:13, vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Depends on the NC. Mine is very good. I actually sent my Fidonet application the old fashioned P4 way (using crash netmail to
/9999), and I was setup within a couple of days. :) So here in my
part of Z3, no complaints. :)

/vorlon waves!

And nice to have one's NC on hand! :D


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On 12-12-19 23:00, vorlon wrote to Spectre <=-

I've not seen you apply or ask about a node number since I became the
NC for souther n australia since 2009.

You're not exactly hard to find either, I just happened to use the latest (at the time) Fidonet nodelist. ;)


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Yes, there's still good people in Fidonet. :)

That's why I came back to the life.

Same here too. :)

Like having a place where we talk about furry family members who are passing/passed & getting encouragement...especially this time of year. HATE this time of year.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 22:32:31 -0500
"Atreyu -> Phoobar" <0@176.1.21> wrote:

On 09 Dec 19 19:18:18, Phoobar said the following to All:

Is there a way to use another hub in another region? Can I tell
this hub to take a flying leap or forget about using FidoNet? All
the other networks hav bent over backwards to help me...but it's
almost like I forgot to buy my magic ring...am not part of the
cabal or I'm too stupid to waste their time

I'm not sure who it was, but you are more than welcome to obtain the
Fido stuff directly from me... I'm the ZC1.

So maybe you should do something to get the original problem solved. As long as
people are forced in to regional areas, ...

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Hello The,

Hey Al. Haven’t heard from you in a while. What’s up these days?

At this moment trying to wrap my head around binkps in binkd for secure (over TLS) transfers.

It easy with Synchronet, not so much in binkd.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 12-13-19 05:05, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Like having a place where we talk about furry family members who are passing/passed & getting encouragement...especially this time of year. HATE this time of year.

Among other things. :)


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Like having a place where we talk about furry family members who are passing/passed & getting encouragement...especially this time of year HATE this time of year.

Among other things. :)

All the years I wasted on Facebook...never was able to have chats like this. Don't miss it & if it went away...a shot of Jack would be in order.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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On 12-14-19 04:59, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

All the years I wasted on Facebook...never was able to have chats like this. Don't miss it & if it went away...a shot of Jack would be in
order.

I have actually had good chats on Facebook, but you have to be selective in where you go. There's a lot of crap that's best avoided on it. :)


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On 14 Dec 2019, Phoobar said the following...

All the years I wasted on Facebook...never was able to have chats like this. Don't miss it & if it went away...a shot of Jack would be in order.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

Amen to that. I only use Facebook as a method of 2FA and that's about it - I never post on there and any device I'm logged into has their trackers
blocked.

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I have actually had good chats on Facebook, but you have to be selective in where you go. There's a lot of crap that's best avoided on it. :)

Very true! Except for looking for a roommate...used to spend all of my time looking at the newsfeeds & commenting on what my friends (who I personally
knew from the past) were saying/doing.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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Amen to that. I only use Facebook as a method of 2FA and that's about it
- I never post on there and any device I'm logged into has their trackers blocked.

Talking about blocked...believe I had an endless blocked list which was probably about 15 or so screens. Anyone who messed with me in proving wearing
a red hat with Keep America Stupid Again is on there. The reason is as a progressive...never had much time for anyone who had to prove their point in ALL CAPS or threatening me with their external genitalia once they found out where I lived. Lived in Colorado Spring for a total of 5-6 years. Hated going to the south part of town where this was most evident...which was near
several military bases.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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I have actually had good chats on Facebook, but you have to be selective in where you go. There's a lot of crap that's best avoided on it. :)

I don't do much on FaceBook, just poke around in some of the Apple II groups. They seem to be able to hold a reasonable conversation. But there seem's to be
plenty of "soapbox on" types around too... but I don't know any :)

Spec


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On 13 Dec 19 23:54:25, Oli said the following to Atreyu:

I'm not sure who it was, but you are more than welcome to obtain the
Fido stuff directly from me... I'm the ZC1.

So maybe you should do something to get the original problem solved. As long
people are forced in to regional areas, ...

You are more than welcome to troll me by Netmail or other means, I have too much respect for Avon to perpetuate your ongoing Fido-politics obsession here.

Atreyu

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On 12-15-19 07:47, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I have actually had good chats on Facebook, but you have to be selective in where you go. There's a lot of crap that's best avoided on it. :)

Very true! Except for looking for a roommate...used to spend all of my time looking at the newsfeeds & commenting on what my friends (who I personally knew from the past) were saying/doing.

I actually do very little of newsfeed following. I spend more time in groups and following a few pages.


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On 12-16-19 04:02, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I don't do much on FaceBook, just poke around in some of the Apple II groups. They seem to be able to hold a reasonable conversation. But
there seem's to be
plenty of "soapbox on" types around too... but I don't know any :)

Sounds like you use Facebook in a similar way to me.


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Quoting Spectre to Vk3jed <=-

I don't do much on FaceBook, just poke around in some of the Apple II groups. They seem to be able to hold a reasonable conversation. But
there seem's to be plenty of "soapbox on" types around too... but I
don't know any :)

Facebook is where my family posts pictures so that's the only reason I
have an account anymore. That and the meme group I'm in that makes me
laugh.

Shawn

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Sounds like you use Facebook in a similar way to me.

I've actually disabled my account and just use messenger now to chat with previously-made acquaintances. My girlfriend isn't happy about this, because she works at facebook, but I don't care :P

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On 12-16-19 10:01, ryan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Sounds like you use Facebook in a similar way to me.

I've actually disabled my account and just use messenger now to chat
with previously-made acquaintances. My girlfriend isn't happy about
this, because she works at facebook, but I don't care :P

Haha OK. :) Seems for me, so many groups I'm involved with use Facebook, it's simply become a useful medium that way.


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Sounds like you use Facebook in a similar way to me.

I've actually disabled my account and just use messenger now to chat
with
previously-made acquaintances. My girlfriend isn't happy about this, because
she works at facebook, but I don't care :P

Deleted my Facebook account 2,5 years ago now. Have no other account in any Facebook owned property and not a day has gone by that I felt any regret about that decision.


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Sounds like you use Facebook in a similar way to me.

What I found was that most of the comp.sys.apple2 guys were hanging out on facebook. Presumably for easier access in this day and age, and speed of message turnover.

Spec


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I actually do very little of newsfeed following. I spend more time in groups and following a few pages.

Used to follow the Commodore groups over there...but when I kept getting banned...just found it worthless to try to keep up because of someone's hurt feelings from my progressive views.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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Haha OK. :) Seems for me, so many groups I'm involved with use
Facebook, it's simply become a useful medium that way.

Yeah, agreed, and it's a pain in the ass to walk away from for a lot of contemporary reasons. I just couldn't get used to being so disappointed in so many people that I thought highly of. Facebook is how people show the worst
of themselves.

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Whats going on with Fidonet?

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Whats going on with Fidonet?

The same thing that has been happening for the past 30+ years; bickering and in-fighting.

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Whats going on with Fidonet?

What do you mean?


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Whats going on with Fidonet?

FUBAR as usual?


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On 12-17-19 10:33, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Sounds like you use Facebook in a similar way to me.

What I found was that most of the comp.sys.apple2 guys were hanging out
on facebook. Presumably for easier access in this day and age, and
speed of message turnover.

Yeah, a lot of groups have moved to Facebook these days.


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On 12-16-19 17:40, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I actually do very little of newsfeed following. I spend more time in groups and following a few pages.

Used to follow the Commodore groups over there...but when I kept
getting banned...just found it worthless to try to keep up because of someone's hurt feelings from my progressive views.

Yeah some people let the power get to their heads and the become intolerant.


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On 12-16-19 17:51, ryan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Haha OK. :) Seems for me, so many groups I'm involved with use
Facebook, it's simply become a useful medium that way.

Yeah, agreed, and it's a pain in the ass to walk away from for a lot of contemporary reasons. I just couldn't get used to being so disappointed
in so many people that I thought highly of. Facebook is how people show the worst of themselves.

Teah, it does seem to for some people, but has brought out the best in others.


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On 12-16-19 20:20, nugax wrote to All <=-

Whats going on with Fidonet?

It's ticking along as usual here. :)


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What I found was that most of the comp.sys.apple2 guys

Yeah, a lot of groups have moved to Facebook these days.

Thats what I ended up there for, otherwise despite the O/S portion on the family I probably wouldn't be on FB. I do however steadfastly refuse to tell them who I am, and the only people friended are people I know.

Spec


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On 12-17-19 10:33, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Sounds like you use Facebook in a similar way to me.

What I found was that most of the comp.sys.apple2 guys were hanging out
on facebook. Presumably for easier access in this day and age, and
speed of message turnover.

Yeah, a lot of groups have moved to Facebook these days.

All the more important to keep free, independent forums like BBS:es alive.



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Re: Re: Fidonet
By: Joacim Melin to Vk3jed on Tue Dec 17 2019 07:31 pm

All the more important to keep free, independent forums like BBS:es alive.

I'm in a couple of BBS-related groups on Facebook, and it always seemed counter-productive to me. Although, some ex-sysops keep in touch on the Fidonet
group that normally wouldn't log onto a BBS.

I have a page for my BBS, mostly to keep people abreast of BBS outages and news; I've been looking at static website builders, I might just knock up a status.realitycheckbbs.org page with a single-page blog and be done with facebook.
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Used to follow the Commodore groups over there...but when I kept getting banned...just found it worthless to try to keep up because of someone's hurt feelings from my progressive views.

Yeah some people let the power get to their heads and the become intolerant.

The thing which made me the most angry is the idiots would do/say worse
things & they would throw their snowball fit and get me banned. Seems like these folks have found their online version of F** N*** & can mess with those not like them & get away with it.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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Tiny wrote to Spectre <=-

Facebook is where my family posts pictures so that's the only reason
I
have an account anymore. That and the meme group I'm in that makes
me
laugh.

+1. Family picture posts and a few groups... and keeping in touch with a
few friends from school.

I have a few friends that get snoozed anytime an election cycle rolls
around.


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On 16 Dec 2019, Netsurge said the following...

Whats going on with Fidonet?

The same thing that has been happening for the past 30+ years; bickering and in-fighting.

Oh yea, that is why I read new messages of the Amiga and Commodre Echo's
only.. I won't knock it nor say anything about it, but it gets boring when things NEVER change..

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On 17 Dec 2019, Vk3jed said the following...

Yeah some people let the power get to their heads and the become intolerant.

Give a person the title of Jackass and he/she lives up to the name. (That's
my opinion on some of the Facebook groups..) ;)

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Re: Re: Fidonet
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Joacim Melin on Tue Dec 17 2019 03:32 pm

news; I've been looking at static website builders, I might just knock up

My https://alterant.leenooks.net website is build using hexo and a theme template call huamen (I think).

They work well and can look great.
...deon


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On 12-17-19 23:18, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Thats what I ended up there for, otherwise despite the O/S portion on
the family I probably wouldn't be on FB. I do however steadfastly
refuse to tell them who I am, and the only people friended are people I know.

Yeah I get a lot of stray friend requests that I ignore. ;)


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On 12-17-19 19:31, Joacim Melin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yeah, a lot of groups have moved to Facebook these days.

All the more important to keep free, independent forums like BBS:es
alive.

The problem with that is users aren't so easily enticed. You're preaching to the choir here. :)


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On 12-17-19 15:57, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

The thing which made me the most angry is the idiots would do/say worse things & they would throw their snowball fit and get me banned. Seems
like these folks have found their online version of F** N*** & can mess with those not like them & get away with it.

Yeah seen all of that. I tend to fly below the radar a bit. :)


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On 12-17-19 19:21, Bucko wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Give a person the title of Jackass and he/she lives up to the name. (That's my opinion on some of the Facebook groups..) ;)

Hahaha :D


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Quoting Blue White to Tiny <=-

I have a few friends that get snoozed anytime an election cycle rolls around.

I ignore both the extreme left and extreme right now. Which means
everyone. LOL I just skip over the posts now as it's easier then even
snoozing people.

Shawn

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Yeah seen all of that. I tend to fly below the radar a bit. :)

I do as well now...especially since I don't bother.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

The thing which made me the most angry is the idiots would do/say worse things & they would throw their snowball fit and get me banned.

It's a shame that more and more online forums are being turned into echo chambers by the people running them. I suppose it has always been so, just more visible now.




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The thing which made me the most angry is the idiots would do/say wor things & they would throw their snowball fit and get me banned.

It's a shame that more and more online forums are being turned into echo chambers by the people running them. I suppose it has always been so,
just more visible now.

When they are doing a zero-sum game...while you're just passing some time & being in contact with others with like interests...such as retro gaming/computing & such...why bother?

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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On 12-18-19 04:50, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yeah seen all of that. I tend to fly below the radar a bit. :)

I do as well now...especially since I don't bother.

Exactly. :)


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Yeah seen all of that. I tend to fly below the radar a bit. :)

I do as well now...especially since I don't bother.

Exactly. :)

;) The one thing about this way of life...have rediscovered how much I missed it.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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On 12-20-19 07:50, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yeah seen all of that. I tend to fly below the radar a bit. :)

I do as well now...especially since I don't bother.

Exactly. :)

;) The one thing about this way of life...have rediscovered how much I missed it.

Hahaha good one. ;-)


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;) The one thing about this way of life...have rediscovered how much missed it.

Hahaha good one. ;-)

Couple of years ago...the one thing I didn't miss was the ex-wife. When I saw she was living in a run down trailer park. As with doing BBS'ing...hope she loves it as much as I do doing this.

Phoobar/ACME BBS-Member of fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet.

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I've not seen you apply or ask about a node number since I
became the NC for souther n australia since 2009.

You're not exactly hard to find either, I just happened to use the
latest (at the time) Fidonet nodelist. ;)

Oh, but can't I hide in the corner. Plus make it a secret boys club! #)>




\/orlon



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On 12-15-19 00:40, vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You're not exactly hard to find either, I just happened to use the
latest (at the time) Fidonet nodelist. ;)

Oh, but can't I hide in the corner. Plus make it a secret boys club!

You can run, but it won't do you any good! :D :P


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On 12-15-19 00:40, vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You're not exactly hard to find either, I just happened to use
the latest (at the time) Fidonet nodelist. ;)

Oh, but can't I hide in the corner. Plus make it a secret boys
club!

You can run, but it won't do you any good! :D :P

Yesh, yeah rub it in...

\/orlon



\/orlon



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On 12-28-19 17:01, vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You can run, but it won't do you any good! :D :P

Yesh, yeah rub it in...

Haha actually today, you could be in with a good chance, because I blew a calf yesterday. :(


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On 12-28-19 17:01, vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You can run, but it won't do you any good! :D :P

Yesh, yeah rub it in...

Haha actually today, you could be in with a good chance, because I
blew a calf yesterday. :(

I could say something else about that calf! 8->
Hope it gets better, and the heat isn't to bad.




\/orlon



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On 12-30-19 12:23, vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Haha actually today, you could be in with a good chance, because I
blew a calf yesterday. :(

I could say something else about that calf! 8->

I meant in my leg :P

Hope it gets better, and the heat isn't to bad.

Well it's hot as, but see how the calf improves. Not looking good for this weekend's decathlon. Can't yet do a bodyweight calf raise on that leg (the good one can lift at least twice my bodyweight).


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Haha actually today, you could be in with a good chance,
because I blew a calf yesterday. :(

I could say something else about that calf! 8->

I meant in my leg :P

I still could have said so,mething else. &-;

Hope it gets better, and the heat isn't to bad.

Well it's hot as, but see how the calf improves. Not looking good
for this weekend's decathlon. Can't yet do a bodyweight calf raise
on that leg (the good one can lift at least twice my bodyweight).

You'll be back into things and tearing around the track.



\/orlon



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On 01-02-20 14:24, vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I meant in my leg :P

I still could have said so,mething else. &-;

Hahaha :D

Hope it gets better, and the heat isn't to bad.

Well it's hot as, but see how the calf improves. Not looking good
for this weekend's decathlon. Can't yet do a bodyweight calf raise
on that leg (the good one can lift at least twice my bodyweight).

You'll be back into things and tearing around the track.

Yeah, I can now do bodyweight calf raises. Things are improving rapidly.


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my bodyweight).

Yeah, I can now do bodyweight calf raises. Things are improving
rapidly.

Soon you will be lifting cows. ^->




\/orlon



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On 01-03-20 17:39, vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

my bodyweight).

Yeah, I can now do bodyweight calf raises. Things are improving
rapidly.

Soon you will be lifting cows. ^->

Haha that would be good strength. :D


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So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet? I only ask as I'm
unclear if I need to run it to get the other networks. logically I would
think no. But I find it the least attractive group of areas to post within; not because the topics are bad, but because the replies are just so delayed
and random. In addition, I just feel that the only real active feeds are the political ones. And while I like talking about politics causally, I hate arguments and name calling. So after unsubscribing to those, I feel like I'm carrying dead space. I realize I have to contribute, and have, but they just aren not active. I guess the entire FidoNet system is just kind of stuck in the past. But thats just my opinion. Occasinally I like the windows, and
dad site, but thats about it.

-tG

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Hello The!

** On Wednesday 29.07.20 - 22:21, The Godfather wrote to All:

..I feel like I'm carrying dead space. I realize I have to
contribute, and have, but they just aren not active. I guess the
entire FidoNet system is just kind of stuck in the past. But thats
just my opinion. Occasinally I like the windows, and dad site, but
thats about it.

What do you meant "stuck in the past"? What does an unstuck fidonet look like?

I still haven't seen you in HOME_N_GRDN.

MOVIES is fine for occassional mention. (You're hooked to that one.)
MEMORIES has a handful of oldies talking about old stuff. <g>
RECIPES and COOKING are crazy busy.
COFFEE_KLATSCH is a generic chat echo that is fine for anything goes.





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On 29 Jul 2020, The Godfather said the following...

So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet? I only ask as I'm unclear if I need to run it to get the other networks. logically I would think no.

No, you don't need to run it and you don't need a FidoNet node.

For example, my son (Etienne's) board that I'm responding from had fsxNet working before it was a FidoNet node.


Andre

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The Godfather wrote to All:

So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet?

I still run Fidonet today, it's where I started years ago.

I only ask as I'm unclear if I need to run it to get the other networks. logically I would think no. But I find it the least attractive group of areas to post within; not because the topics are bad, but because the

TG replies are just so delayed and random.

That delay can happen in any net since folks don't reply until they get the message and that may be some time before they get on a BBS and get new messages.

That doesn't seem to be the case here in fsxNet so much since folks seem to hang around here and chat.

In addition, I just feel that the only real active feeds are the political ones. And while I like talking about politics causally, I hate arguments and name calling. So after unsubscribing to those, I feel like I'm carrying dead space. I realize I have to contribute, and have, but they just aren not active. I guess the entire FidoNet system is just kind of stuck in the past. But thats just my opinion. Occasinally I like the windows, and dad site, but thats about it.

The political echoes can and do at times sink into name calling and
deflection and when that happens I bow out. Your not going to be able to
carry on a reasonable conversation or debate in that kind of enviroment.

That's likely the reason politics are unwanted here in fsxNet.

You don't have to be part of any net (Fidonet or otherwise) unless you want
to and you are able to get done what you set out to do.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet? I only ask as I'm

To be fair, I run Fidonet because it's the oldest and most-well-known of the networks. (well, I assume the oldest. Certainly the oldest of the ones I'm aware of.) So it adds some nostalgia value.

I do like some of the files that come through, and I pay attention to the Mystic forum, because g00r00 posts there.

But there's not any reason a BBS would _have_ to run Fidonet. I'd say to go
for it if you're inclined to (not) do so.

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On Thu Jul 30 07:40:00 2020, Adept wrote to The Godfather <=-

So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet? I only ask as I'm

To be fair, I run Fidonet because it's the oldest and most-well-known of the networks. (well, I assume the oldest. Certainly the oldest of the ones I'm aware of.) So it adds some nostalgia value.

It is an old network and where the technology "FTN" came from, but I think any nostalgia value has long gone, it's not what it used to be.

I do like some of the files that come through, and I pay attention to the Mystic forum, because g00r00 posts there.

Does he?

But there's not any reason a BBS would _have_ to run Fidonet. I'd say to go for it if you're inclined to (not) do so.

I don't run any net at the moment, but when I did I didn't run fidonet. I set it up for a little while, and there are some good people there, but the signal to noise as they say.

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So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet? I only ask as I'm

FidoWhat? No haven't been near it in..... 35 years or more :)


Spec


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Re: Fidonet
By: The Godfather to All on Wed Jul 29 2020 10:21 pm

So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet? I only ask as I'm unclear if I need to run it to get the other networks. logically I would think no. But I find it the least attractive group of areas to post within;

not

because the topics are bad, but because the replies are just so delayed
and random. In addition, I just feel that the only real active feeds are

the

political ones. And while I like talking about politics causally, I hate

arguments

and name calling. So after unsubscribing to those, I feel like I'm carrying

dead

space. I realize I have to contribute, and have, but they just aren not

active. I

guess the entire FidoNet system is just kind of stuck in the past. But

thats just

opinion. Occasinally I like the windows, and
dad site, but thats about it.

-tG

I know of at least one sysop that does not carry Fidonet.

Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hug. If you think your hub
operator is a dumbass you can't connect to Fidonet, because they won't let you peer
with anybody else :-)

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Hello Arelor,

I know of at least one sysop that does not carry Fidonet.

Yep, Fidonet is not for everyone.

Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hug. If you think your hub operator is a dumbass you can't connect to Fidonet,
because they won't let you peer with anybody else :-)

Sure you can. You can link with any node(s) you choose to transfer mail and files. You just need to talk to the sysop where you want to link and away you go.

You probably need a secure session with your NC since he/she needs to get netmail to you (preferably securely) if any host routed mail for you arrives at his system for your node. But aside from that you are free to connect where you please.

Back in the dial up days each net had (and probably still does) a link to the backbone that everyone could connect to if they wanted. That made sense back in the dial up days since a link to the backbone outside the net would be expensive. Even so back then you could connect were you please if you were ready to pay the cost.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Arelor wrote to The Godfather <=-

I know of at least one sysop that does not carry Fidonet.

There are many that don't.

Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hug. If
you think your hub operator is a dumbass you can't connect to
Fidonet, because they won't let you peer with anybody else :-)

Those "rules" are outdated and not actually in effect any longer.
Generally speaking you can get your feed from anyone willing to
provide it. Some nodes have multiple feeds (hubs) for redundancy.



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On 29 Jul 2020, The Godfather said the following...

So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet?

I carry it, but mostly out of nostalgia.

I only ask as I'm unclear if I need to run it to get the other networks. logically I would think no.

No, you don't have to carry Fidonet. You could have a board with only fsxNet and it would operate just fine.

In addition, I just feel that the only real active feeds are the
political ones. And while I like talking about politics causally, I hate arguments and name calling.

I'm with you. I don't carry debate or religious echos for this reason. I'm not sure how some of us came to believe that "different = wrong" but it seems that such individuals can't have a cool headed discussion about such topics.

So after unsubscribing to those, I feel like I'm carrying dead space. I realize I have to contribute, and have, but they just aren not active.

I get that as well. I just cut 3 whole nets from my board. Not that they're bad or anything, they just didn't have enough traffic to justify carrying
them. I'd rather have quality over quantity.

Part of my logon sequence is to scan all echos for any new messages addressed to the user. Scanning through more than 100 echos that never get any
messages at all was just slowing down the logon process.

Jay

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I do like some of the files that come through, and I pay attention to the Mystic forum, because g00r00 posts there.

But there's not any reason a BBS would _have_ to run Fidonet. I'd say to go for it if you're inclined to (not) do so.

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Thank you, I figured as much, I may just un-subscribe from most echos as I
can and just keep the good ones. You bring up a valid point regarding g00r00 .. he's an obvious wealth of knowledge I like to learn from.

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I'm with you. I don't carry debate or religious echos for this reason. I'm not sure how some of us came to believe that "different = wrong" but it seems that such individuals can't have a cool headed discussion about such topics.

I'm guilty of making a political comment unknowingly, or without intent of starting a debate, and finding myself in the middle of one that I bow out of
as I don't like to argue, and I'm not spending hours finding news articles
to back up an argument. I only bring them up, mostly by accident, when I something like COVID or riots or george floyd break out and I'm shocked that it's occuring. I'll make an innocent statement and it just flames someone to the point of their blood boiling which isn't why I choose BBS'ing. I do not reply when people do that anymore and work hard not bring that kind of stuff
up unless prompted to and / or if someone is asking me about my personal life and how I have been affected by any current situation. Someone always likes
to jump in on a conversation and try to make someone look like an idiot if their facts aren't 100% accurate. It's draining.

I get that as well. I just cut 3 whole nets from my board. Not that they're bad or anything, they just didn't have enough traffic to justify carrying them. I'd rather have quality over quantity.

I have 1 that is on my chopping block as there is nothing unique about
it, compared to fsxnet, and it's had maybe 10 posts since april. Nothing agaist whomever runs it, nor those that love the network, but I'm not sure anyone is even reading it when people attempt to post there. Won't name
names for obvious reasons. I try to carry networks that supplement one
another and provides diversity in topics. I really like Araknet, Spooknet, Fsxnet, and Zeronet and Sportsnet as each are for diffent purposes. I just added Dorenet which I like for the tech side. I feel that fido net is just mostly repetition and not active to other networks that seem to have the same topic and are.

Part of my logon sequence is to scan all echos for any new messages addressed to the user. Scanning through more than 100 echos that never get any messages at all was just slowing down the logon process.

That never crossed my mind but very true.

tG

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The Godfather wrote to All <=-

So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet? I only ask as I'm unclear if I need to run it to get the other networks.

Need? No. You could get a node number and get in the nodelist, as
having a Fido node is a great least-common-denominator means of
connecting via netmail.




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Arelor wrote to The Godfather <=-

Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hug. If you think your hub operator is a dumbass you can't connect to Fidonet,
because they won't let you peer with anybody else :-)

That's not the case everywhere. Once you get your node number, at
least in my neck of the woods, you're free to get an echomail/file
feed from whoever you want.

Some people are using what they call the "Fidoweb", which is making
redundant feed connections across multiple systems and letting their
BBSes duplicate network detection sort out the dupes.

Your hub will need to connect to you to send/receive host-routed
netmail, but most netmail nowadays is free, and people send it via
crashmail, directly to the destination. It's a lot faster that way.

I'm the coordinator for Fidonet in California/Nevada, and each region
does things differently. I offer a file and echo feed, mostly as a
convenience to my region. If someone else wanted to offer that in the
region I'd probably use them instead. But, I haven't heard of a RC
limiting who their BBSes connect to, except requiring that you're up
and able to accept netmail.



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On 30 Jul 2020, The Godfather said the following...

I'm guilty of making a political comment unknowingly, or without intent
of starting a debate, and finding myself in the middle of one that I bow out of as I don't like to argue.

I'm the same way, it's just not worth the time & energy. I actually sat for
a moment humming & hawing as to whether I should even post the "different = wrong" line as I didn't want to start anything.

I'm not spending hours finding news articles to back up an argument.

The problem is, even if you do that they're still not going to change their mind. Hence why's it's just not worth it.

I'll make an innocent statement and it just flames someone to the point
of their blood boiling which isn't why I choose BBS'ing.

This is why I like fsxNet. It seems to be the most friendly.

I have 1 that is on my chopping block as there is nothing unique about
it, compared to fsxnet, and it's had maybe 10 posts since april. Nothing agaist whomever runs it, nor those that love the network

I was actually a little scared writing the netmails saying I'm leaving the networks. I get anxiety from time to time and that was one of them. I just sent a (hopefully) polite message and that was that. I really was hoping to not swat a hornet's nest & stir up some drama.

I try to carry networks that supplement one another and provides
diversity in topics.

I find a lot of us are on the same networks, so it's almost like the same conversation with a different from address now & then.

I really like Araknet, Spooknet, Fsxnet, and Zeronet and Sportsnet as
each are for diffent purposes.

You may want to check out DOVE-Net as well. The messages sometimes come out mangled in Mystic for some reason, I think from being a QWK network. It's quite active, though some of the characters there can be a little
cantankerous.


Jay

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The Godfather wrote to All <=-

the entire FidoNet system is just kind of stuck in the past. But thats just my opinion. Occasinally I like the windows, and dad site, but
thats about it.

If you like the Windows and Dads one, you can drop the rest. You are only required to be able to send/receive netmail to be in Fidonet, IIRC. And,
no, you don't have to carry fidonet in order to carry other ftn networks
like this one.

When I first set up this board, the only network it carried was FSX. It
does have a handful of fido echos now... mostly only so I can post BBS ads
on that network. :)


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Arelor wrote to The Godfather <=-

Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hug. If you think your hub operator is a dumbass you can't connect to Fidonet,
because they won't let you peer with anybody else :-)

That is only where you have to get your netmail from. You can connect
anywhere for echomail. Before I was the net 2320 hub, I would only connect with my hub once a day to pick up any netmail. I got my echoes from
elsewhere, which is a good thing considering that he disappeared. :)


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It is an old network and where the technology "FTN" came from, but I
think any nostalgia value has long gone, it's not what it used to be.

Yeah, you're probably right. I don't really know that I used Fidonet for much of anything the first time around, either, though.

I do like some of the files that come through, and I pay attention to t Mystic forum, because g00r00 posts there.

Does he?

Yep. There seems to be some technical discussion involving him a couple times
a week.

I don't run any net at the moment, but when I did I didn't run fidonet.
I set it up for a little while, and there are some good people there,
but the signal to noise as they say.

Yeah. Even with my own usage of it, I have most of the forums turned off. I have no desire to follow the recipes forum, or follow some stupid political discussion.

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On 30 Jul 2020, Blue White said the following...

Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hub.If you think your hub operator is a dumbass you can't connect to Fidonet, because they won't let you peer with anybody else :-)

connect with my hub once a day to pick up any netmail. I got my echoes from elsewhere, which is a good thing considering that he disappeared.

I dunno. Aside from a noticbly slow turnaround compared to getting fsx setup, FidoNet mostly seems fine to me. There seems to be one complete tool that frequents General and owns a couple echos, but otherwise it's mostly whatever.

But I thought the guys that operate the region and hub were quite kind and helpful. Maybe it's a Wisconsin thing.

- Andre

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On 30 Jul 2020, Andre said the following...

I dunno. Aside from a noticbly slow turnaround compared to getting fsx setup, FidoNet mostly seems fine to me.

I was really surprised when I contacted Nick to get Fidonet set back up. He replied within an hour of me applying and had me setup before the end of the day!

But I thought the guys that operate the region and hub were quite kind
and helpful. Maybe it's a Wisconsin thing.

And a Canadian thing! :)

Jay

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So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet? I only ask as I'm unclear if I need to run it to get the other networks. logically I would think no. But I find it the least attractive group of areas to post within; not because the topics are bad, but because the replies are just so delayed and random.

I think that there are some good echo's in Fidonet, there are also some that are not so good. I personally offer all the active areas and set my board to add areas automatically for all my networks as echomail flows in. I look at
it as content, since what might appeal to me may not appeal to somebody
calling my BBS.

In addition, I just feel that the only real
active feeds are the political ones. And while I like talking about politics causally, I hate arguments and name calling. So after unsubscribing to those, I feel like I'm carrying dead space. I realize
I have to contribute, and have, but they just aren not active. I guess the entire FidoNet system is just kind of stuck in the past. But thats just my opinion. Occasinally I like the windows, and dad site, but
thats about it.

I've been experimenting with adding Newsgroups to my board. I have about 100 groups so far, It's more challenging because there is a fair amount of spam bbut there is alot more activitiy in some of the groups. Still a work in process but I may allow some systems to feed off of me once I get things squared away.

- Mike

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Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hug. If you

I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy with hugs now.. :) But you can't just hug anyone you like at the moment.... there could be ramifications... :P

Spec


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I'm the same way, it's just not worth the time & energy. I actually sat for a moment humming & hawing as to whether I should even post the "different = wrong" line as I didn't want to start anything.

word that. I'm posting less because a sincere friend will ask me questions relating to my business I closed and people will jump in and pounce on
anything they believe to not be accurate. So I've removed all political
sites and anything that could lead to such.

The problem is, even if you do that they're still not going to change their mind. Hence why's it's just not worth it.

I would expect the younger generation to get so upset, I don't however understand an Xer or Boomer with wisdom to know how to keep their cool,
losing it. I just can't relate. I free write, I don't articulately edit my posts prior to sending them. I have 3 kids bouncing around this house and I have to put out fires and arguments, or destruction of property, what seems like every 50 minutes lol! So i may have a typo, or say something I didn't mean in it's context, but when I get pounced on, I move on. I have, however, had very productive conversations on ZeroNet with Jack Phlash that I would consider a good BBS friend despite our different beliefs, I think we have learned we argree on more then we do not.

This is why I like fsxNet. It seems to be the most friendly.

I LOVE ArakNet for that Smooth is a super cool person and so are those within the group. I also love the crowd at SpookNet, Warm Fuzzy is a great person. But agree, this is my favorite general chat forum that I've made the most lasting relationships with then most others.

I was actually a little scared writing the netmails saying I'm leaving
the networks. I get anxiety from time to time and that was one of them.
I just sent a (hopefully) polite message and that was that. I really
was hoping to not swat a hornet's nest & stir up some drama.

I get anxiety too .. I don't like upsetting people and overthink things. I just keep it simple and don't provide explanation other then I'd like to
cancel the network. If they ask, I'm honest but polite. Nothing to worry about. In BBS'ing people come and go all of the time, they are used to it.

I find a lot of us are on the same networks, so it's almost like the same conversation with a different from address now & then.

Ha! Well, not all topics are the same but I agree I run into the same peeps
.. the "posters" seem limited to a select group. I prefer the message and
file areas to the online games. I just don't have the time nor attention
span to keep up with all of the games people love. I was enjoying Galactic Dynasty (?) by Apam, but without anyone else playing, there isn't anyone to
spy on or attack. I need to find a good league thats active and easy to acquire a network address for, so I can participate within it. However more importantly I want to get MRC installed on my BBS so I can participate in the meet ups. Unfortunately I'm waiting for a pinched nerve to leave my arm. As
I type I can't feel my left pinky nor that half of the palm. It's been two weeks now and very hard to type.

-tG

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You may want to check out DOVE-Net as well. The messages sometimes come out mangled in Mystic for some reason, I think from being a QWK network. It's quite active, though some of the characters there can be a little cantankerous.

I may need to do that, It's been suggested to me before. I need to delve
into Dan's documentation on that and see if I can't figure out how to set up the QWK network for mystic. I'm holding off on too much until I get .46 installed. I'm sure I'll run into .mpx or .py scripts to adjust as I do and hear that some changes to the way to process network mail is slightly different. I don't recall what the issue was, but am sure I'll run into
issues that may take some time to work through. But I'm excited about the under the hood features I read about on dorenet.

-tG

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Re: Fidonet
By: The Godfather to All on Wed Jul 29 2020 10:21 pm

So curious, is there any sysop not running fidonet?

I'm not running FidoNet (at least not yet), but that's mainly because I'm still
a new sysop. I have looked into it though, and did put forth the effort to set up my system to send and receive netmail, and even attempted to reach out and request a node number. I got an initial response saying to expect another response, but that's where things stopped. I thought about sending a follow up,
but I don't want to be a bother. Plus, after reading some of the other replies to this thread, I'm becoming convinced that maybe it's not worth the effort. Besides, it's "bad enough" that I'm on DOVE-Net and fsxNet. (j/k) :P

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Warpslide wrote to The Godfather <=-

In addition, I just feel that the only real active feeds are the
political ones. And while I like talking about politics causally, I hate arguments and name calling.

I'm with you. I don't carry debate or religious echos for this reason.
I'm not sure how some of us came to believe that "different = wrong"
but it seems that such individuals can't have a cool headed discussion about such topics.

I'm trying to jump start COFFEE_KLATSCH on Fidonet, it's a general
discussion echo that I used to love back in the dial-up days. Please
jump on in and join some of the conversations, or make your own.


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Andre wrote to Blue White <=-

I dunno. Aside from a noticbly slow turnaround compared to getting fsx setup, FidoNet mostly seems fine to me. There seems to be one complete tool that frequents General and owns a couple echos, but otherwise it's mostly whatever.

As an aside, I think anyone who moderates an echo should post actively
there. When I moderated echoes on Fidonet and other networks, I took
promoting the echoes and messages on the echo very seriously.

Fidonet seems to suffer from echo-collectors trying to keep the status
quo. I suppose there could be an argument for keeping support echoes
alive in case someone has a support issue, but it ends up with a ton
of echoes, no traffic, and it looks bad.

(swerving back on topic and on network...) That's one reason I like
FSX only having a couple of echoes - there's a lot of traffic to
attract prospective sysops.



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Warpslide wrote to Andre <=-

I dunno. Aside from a noticbly slow turnaround compared to getting fsx setup, FidoNet mostly seems fine to me.

I was really surprised when I contacted Nick to get Fidonet set back
up. He replied within an hour of me applying and had me setup before
the end of the day!

Yeah, Fidonet is a volunteer network, and massively decentralized.
Each region does their own thing. I'll at least send an email to the
sysop saying I received their application and I'm working on it, so if
I do take longer than expected they know where to reach out to.



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Nazferiti wrote to The Godfather <=-

I've been experimenting with adding Newsgroups to my board. I have
about 100 groups so far, It's more challenging because there is a fair amount of spam bbut there is alot more activitiy in some of the groups.
Still a work in process but I may allow some systems to feed off of me once I get things squared away.

Which newsgroups have activity? I have a list of legacy groups that are
all SPAM now. Would love to bring down some active areas, regardless
of the topic.



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The Godfather wrote to Warpslide <=-

edit my posts prior to sending them. I have 3 kids bouncing around
this house and I have to put out fires and arguments, or destruction of property, what seems like every 50 minutes lol!

To me, BBSing was always best done in a dark room, only a desk lamp
on, late at night. I started doing that when I was trying to lower
toll costs, and it's still stuck with me.

The mornings before everyone gets up is good, too - make sure the BBS
is still up, mild surprise although it's been up every morning more
or less since 1991.



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On 31 Jul 2020, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

I'm trying to jump start COFFEE_KLATSCH on Fidonet, it's a general
discussion echo that I used to love back in the dial-up days. Please
jump on in and join some of the conversations, or make your own.

I carry it on my board. I'll add it to my new scan list & see what comes up.

Jay

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Re: Re: Fidonet
By: Al to The Godfather on Thu Jul 30 2020 12:27 am

replies are just so delayed and random.

That delay can happen in any net since folks don't reply until they get the message and that may be some time before they get on a BBS and get new messages.

These days, it seems replies on BBS message networks can happen a lot faster than they used to, because these days BBSes tend to connect over the internet where it generally doesn't cost anything extra to make a connection. In the 90s and earlier, BBSes tended to have a mail exchange hour at night, and might not connect to their hub often (or at all) during the day except that one hour at night. So in the worst case scenario, a message could take up to a day to get to the BBS's hub, then more time to get out to the BBS it was intended for,
and then if a reply is sent, there would be about the same time to wait to get a reply back.

Nightfox
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Re: Re: Fidonet
By: Adept to The Godfather on Thu Jul 30 2020 07:40 am

To be fair, I run Fidonet because it's the oldest and most-well-known of the networks. (well, I assume the oldest. Certainly the oldest of the ones I'm aware of.) So it adds some nostalgia value.

That's the same reason I run Fidonet. I rarely read or post there though. And
the only real interaction I've had on FidoNet lately was due to to some "fight-o-net" drama.. Some users apparently thought one of my BBS users was being a troll and thought he was actually me, and directed a message reply to my name instead of them, apparently to get my attention. They wouldn't believe
that my user wasn't me, and a couple of them added me to their twit list..

Nightfox
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Each region does their own thing. I'll at least send an email to the
sysop saying I received their application and I'm working on it, so if
I do take longer than expected they know where to reach out to.

Seconding to confirm that poindexter FORTRAN has been responsive whenever
I've had need to request some FIDOnet thing.

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I'm waiting for a pinched nerve to leave my arm. As I type I can't feel my left pinky nor that half of the palm. It's been two weeks now and
very hard to type.

I think that's one of those nightmare conditions if they don't go away.

Well, nightmare for those of us who seem to have been born with a keyboard in our hands.

Reminds me how my hands oftentimes type a different thing than I was
thinking, and sometimes are right in doing so.

So I hope your hands feel better soon.

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due to to some "fight-o-net" drama.. Some users apparently thought one
of my BBS users was being a troll and thought he was actually me, and

Ugh.

Just...

Ugh.

Fidonet.

At least there's a redeeming echo or two, I guess.

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Andre wrote to Blue White <=-

On 30 Jul 2020, Blue White said the following...

But I thought the guys that operate the region and hub were quite kind
and helpful. Maybe it's a Wisconsin thing.

Cannot disagree there. :)


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On 31 Jul 2020, Nightfox said the following...

all) during the day except that one hour at night. So in the worst case scenario, a message could take up to a day to get to the BBS's hub, then more time to get out to the BBS it was intended for, and then if a reply is sent, there would be about the same time to wait to get a reply back.

Yup. My WWIVnet board dialed into a hub in St. Louis at about 2 am each
night. A message from me to Mexico and back took seven days.


- Andre

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Re: Re: Fidonet
By: Andre to Nightfox on Fri Jul 31 2020 07:08 pm

Yup. My WWIVnet board dialed into a hub in St. Louis at about 2 am each night. A message from me to Mexico and back took seven days.

I had almost forgotten how much time it took for messages to get around on FidoNet then. These days, I check my BBS messages almost daily, but back then the dynamic would have been a bit different.

Nightfox
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Yup. My WWIVnet board dialed into a hub in St. Louis at about 2 am each night. A message from me to Mexico and back took seven days.

Was that to the alien as Roswell? :)

Spec


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Re: Re: Fidonet
By: Spectre to Andre on Sat Aug 01 2020 13:57:00

Was that to the alien as Roswell? :)

Spec

Looking through old BBS lists, I think it was to The M&M Factory, but I'm not sure. It's all so vague now, but I remember needing to post messages to get M&Ms to play TW2002.

- Andre
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Adept wrote to The Godfather <=-

I'm waiting for a pinched nerve to leave my arm. As I type I can't feel my left pinky nor that half of the palm. It's been two weeks now and
very hard to type.

I think that's one of those nightmare conditions if they don't go away.

+1, and my experience is that they never completely go away.


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Codefenix wrote to The Godfather <=-

I'm not running FidoNet (at least not yet), but that's mainly because
I'm still a new sysop. I have looked into it though, and did put forth
the effort to set up my system to send and receive netmail, and even attempted to reach out and request a node number. I got an initial response saying to expect another response, but that's where things stopped.

It's nice having a node number for netmail, and there are some good
points to Fido to go along with the bad points - but you can pick and
choose which echoes to carry.

If you don't hear anything in a reasonable amount of time, I'd follow
up with Nick Andre, if you're in the US/Canada. He's the Zone
coordinator for Zone 1, and all of us regional coordinators "report"
to him, so to speak. He might be able to assist.



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Nightfox wrote to Andre <=-

Yup. My WWIVnet board dialed into a hub in St. Louis at about 2 am each night. A message from me to Mexico and back took seven days.

I had almost forgotten how much time it took for messages to get around
on FidoNet then. These days, I check my BBS messages almost daily, but back then the dynamic would have been a bit different.

Yep, one overnight poll to get to my hub. Then a poll to get to the
NEC. Then, one overnight poll to get to the Star, then to the
network's NEC, and another overnight poll to get to the BBS.

If you were going through a Zone Gate, add another day or two.

What were we talking about again?



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On 01 Aug 2020, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

... Feed the recording back out of the medium
... State the problem as clearly as possible
... Change ambiguities to specifics
... Take away the elements in order of apparent non-importance
... I'll be unstoppable when I get started
... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can

I always enjoy your taglines.

If your tagline file was a person, I'd imagine it has a wise man sitting at
the top of a hill with a long white beard, just waiting to dispense wisdom to those who ask.

Jay

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On 30 Jul 2020, Arelor said the following...

Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hug. If you think your hub
operator is a dumbass you can't connect to Fidonet, because they won't
let you peer

No. You can get your fido feed wherever you want.

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

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On 30 Jul 20 06:06:39, Arelor said the following to The Godfather:

Think of it. They have rules dictating who has to be your hug. If you think your hub
operator is a dumbass you can't connect to Fidonet, because they won't let y peer
with anybody else :-)

Speaking as a Fidonet ZC I can assure you this is incorrect and would not happen on my watch.

Atreyu

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I think that's one of those nightmare conditions if they don't go away.

Well, nightmare for those of us who seem to have been born with a
keyboard in our hands.

Still dealing with it. I have a chiropractor appointment on Friday; it's a long wait. The last time this happened was when I did a lot of string
trimming for my business. The way to properly hold a weed wacker gave me tennis elbow; I'm sure it's similar, as it feels as such. But it sucks
trying to type when you can't feel your pinky finger at all; I hit the caps lock when meaning to hit 'a', 'q' instead of tab, etc.... it's annoying more then anything at first -- but now my elbow is painful. So I'm any SysOp's
best laugh of the night if they snoop me logging on and trying to type.

Reminds me how my hands oftentimes type a different thing than I was thinking, and sometimes are right in doing so.

I usually free write; for better or worse, it's the time I have .. I'm not writing college essays, so I just let my fingers do the typing. I had a VP once who taught me to ignore tone within emails as tone is within ones head; view all messages with positive intent. Since that advice, I try to do so prior to replying to any potentially innocent reply or misunderstanding. As I'm one who can be known to type too quickly and not proof read prior to sending ;)

So I hope your hands feel better soon.

Thank you, me too. I miss talking to everyone.

-tG

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it sucks trying to type when you can't feel your pinky finger at all; I hit the caps lock when meaning to hit 'a', 'q' instead of tab, etc.... it's annoying more then anything at first -- but now my elbow is
painful. So I'm any SysOp's best laugh of the night if they snoop me

Ugh. Yeah, that sounds terrible.

I do wonder how much you could do with some sort of vocal keyboard or something, though I know little of such things, and would be kinda horrified
to use them, myself, as my throat is getting commiseration tiredness just thinking of it.

had a VP once who taught me to ignore tone within emails as tone is
within ones head; view all messages with positive intent. Since that advice, I try to do so prior to replying to any potentially innocent
reply or misunderstanding. As I'm one who can be known to type too

That's certainly good advice. Rather hard to follow, at various times, but
good advice nonetheless.

I oftentimes overthink what I type, trying to craft things exactly so that
more of my intent comes across. But I know that that'll be ruined if people read it in a way I didn't mean.

That said, I do also tend to just type stream-of-consciousness, especially
when writing a longer message. And who knows what'll come out at that point?

Thank you, me too. I miss talking to everyone.

Good luck! I hope the doctor can say something useful. Though I imagine it'll start with, "...and stop typing for three months, or anything else that uses that hand".

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Ugh. Yeah, that sounds terrible.
I do wonder how much you could do with some sort of vocal keyboard or something, though I know little of such things, and would be kinda horrified to use them, myself, as my throat is getting commiseration tiredness just thinking of it.

Siri and I don't get along very well, I can't imagine her typing for me :)

That's certainly good advice. Rather hard to follow, at various times,
but good advice nonetheless.

I thought so, often harder to do in todays climate. So many polarizing
beliefs I innocently comment on that flares people beyond my expectation.
So, yeah, I select my echos of expression more carefully.

Good luck! I hope the doctor can say something useful. Though I imagine it'll start with, "...and stop typing for three months, or anything else that uses that hand".

Not the chiropractor .. she's awesome. She'll do ultra sound treatments, put
a brace on it, have me do crazy stretches, and pop my spine back in place. Should be good as new in a few weeks if all goes as it did the last time.

-tG

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On 04 Aug 2020, The Godfather said the following...

Not the chiropractor .. she's awesome. She'll do ultra sound
treatments, put a brace on it, have me do crazy stretches, and pop my spine back in place. Should be good as new in a few weeks if all goes as it did the last time.

I like my Chiropractor as well. He'll hook me up to this tens (sp?) machine and loosen up my shoulders & back before going to town cracking me back into shape. Occasionally my shoulders will get very tight (from bad posture and ergonomics I'm told) and when he hooks the tens machine up I'll start
shrugging involuntarily over & over for about 10 minutes.

Jay

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I like my Chiropractor as well. He'll hook me up to this tens (sp?) machine and loosen up my shoulders & back before going to town cracking
me back into shape. Occasionally my shoulders will get very tight (from bad posture and ergonomics I'm told) and when he hooks the tens machine
up I'll start shrugging involuntarily over & over for about 10 minutes.

Jay,

Are you talking about the tension machine where it pulls on your neck and
feet? That machine is awesome. However my current chiropractor doesn't have one, but my old is too far away to visit anymore. Bummer. I also like the roller beds. Mine is from lifting and upper body tension, combined with posture from PC's. Not a good mix at all. I bought a posture back strap
thing on amazon that has helped tremendously; it doesn't allow one to lean forward into ones phone or PC, but I lose track of where it is when it's not on. My kids are tornados around the house, so, my stuff tends to get buried.

-tG

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On 05 Aug 2020, The Godfather said the following...

Are you talking about the tension machine where it pulls on your neck and feet?

No, this is where he puts sticky pads on you and hooks it up to a machine
that delivers a mild electrical shock which constricts & eventually fatigues the muscle.

I don't know that I've seen the machine you're talking about, but I'm
picturing a medieval stretching machine. I've always thought that could actually feel good up to a point.

Jay

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Warpslide wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

On 01 Aug 2020, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

... Feed the recording back out of the medium
... State the problem as clearly as possible
... Change ambiguities to specifics
... Take away the elements in order of apparent non-importance
... I'll be unstoppable when I get started
... Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can

I always enjoy your taglines.

If your tagline file was a person, I'd imagine it has a wise man
sitting at the top of a hill with a long white beard, just waiting to dispense wisdom to those who ask.

:)

My tagline file started out with "Oblique Strategies", a deck of cards
created by Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt to break creative blocks. I've
added to it since then...

"Start where you are..." came from Arthur Ashe.



... Find a safe part and use it as an anchor
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On 31 Jul 2020, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

Nazferiti wrote to The Godfather <=-

I've been experimenting with adding Newsgroups to my board. I have about 100 groups so far, It's more challenging because there is a fa amount of spam bbut there is alot more activitiy in some of the group
Still a work in process but I may allow some systems to feed off of once I get things squared away.

Which newsgroups have activity? I have a list of legacy groups that are all SPAM now. Would love to bring down some active areas, regardless
of the topic.

I have approximately 200 areas available on the newsgate and I do try to
filter the spam the best that I can. This is a work in progress but these
are some of my most active groups. Adding new areas is fairly simple and can be requested in one of the "local" ungated echo groups I set up.

ALT.ALIEN.VISITORS
ALT.ATHEISM
ALT.BBS.MYSTIC
ALT.MED.CFS
ALT.OS.LINUX.UBUNTU
ALT.PARANET.UFO
ALT.POLITICS
ALT.POLITICS.ELECTIONS
ALT.POLITICS.MEDIA
ALT.RELIGION.CHRISTIAN.BIBLESTUDY
ALT.SOCIETY.CONSERVATISM
ALT.SOCIETY.LIBERALISM
ALT.SUPPORT.DEPRESSION
ALT.UFO.REPORTS
COMP.LANG.C
COMP.LANG.JAVASCRIPT
COMP.LANG.C++
COMP.THEORY
I have several Linux related forums, they are all very active.

All the groups I currently have added are imported to the BBS and you can do
an "indexed view" to see the messages contained in each group.

Regards,
Mike Pedersen

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Its probably already been answered, but....


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Its probably already been answered, but....

Are you talking about the tension machine where it pulls on your neck and

The tension doodah is what gives you decompression or traction. The TENS machine I believe that is the right spelling is electronic nerve stimulation. I've been hit with one of those once or twice, I don't think my user was terribly good, but I was just about flopping like a tossed ragdoll each time it was powered up. :/

Its basically a lower powered, frequency variable eletric fence :) With electrodes for attachment to specific areas for nerve groupings.

Spec


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The tension doodah is what gives you decompression or traction. The TENS machine I believe that is the right spelling is electronic nerve stimulation. I've been hit with one of those once or twice, I don't
think my user was terribly good, but I was just about flopping like a tossed ragdoll each time it was powered up. :/

Its basically a lower powered, frequency variable eletric fence :) With electrodes for attachment to specific areas for nerve groupings.

Spec

Ha! Yes I know the machine you're talking about. Haven't been on one of
those in years, didn't think it did much other then make my muscles jump
around like crazy for 5 minutes. I find the tension / traction machine to
work better. It's a bit scary at first, having your entire body stretched
from head to toe, but it works awesome.

-tG

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/ traction machine to work better. It's a bit scary at first, having
your entire body stretched from head to toe, but it works awesome.

I'm glad you found something that works for you. I have to say, it was one of the things that actually finished my back right off. That and physio tried to shift it from its current state unsuccessfuly to a "better" state. However having been in its current state for many years it seriously didn't enjoy the action. :/

Spec


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