What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
I use SemPoint. It is a 16-bit Windows program that installs and
works fine on WinXP or Win7 32-bit.
For offline reading? I use MultiMail. I did have to make a couple
changes in the source code to squash a couple bugs, but it works very
I'm testing a copy I found on SF now, the thing is I can't seem to get my copy of netrunner to upload the REP packet, it may be a wider issue with metrying to upload things lover the LAN, not sure.
The node logs are showing this error.
2021.01.04 16:49:19 ERROR: Can't find xfer.log, error 2
2021.01.04 16:50:39 ERROR: Can't find xfer.log, error 2
2021.01.04 16:50:39 ERROR: Can't find xfer.log, error 2
That's a new one on me. I haven't seen that before... Are you connecting to the local ip address or via your external url?
I use SemPoint. It is a 16-bit Windows program that installs and
works fine on WinXP or Win7 32-bit.
Thanks I'll check it out :)
Black Panther wrote to Avon <=-
On 04 Jan 2021, 03:45p, Avon said the following...
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
For offline reading? I use MultiMail. I did have to make a couple
changes in the source code to squash a couple bugs, but it works very well.
2021.01.04 16:50:39 ERROR: Can't find xfer.log, error 2
That's a new one on me. I haven't seen that before... Are you connecting
I managed to get SyncTerm working and uploaded the packet, I found I couldnot use Zmodem but rather had to choose Sexyz Zmodem instead.
Then later I have discovered my uploading issue with Netrunner was just operator error in the way I was not using the program correctly. So..
phew :)
AVON wrote to ALL <=-
Netmail: 21:1/101
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
Black Panther wrote to Avon <=-
On 04 Jan 2021, 03:45p, Avon said the following...
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
For offline reading? I use MultiMail. I did have to make a couple
changes in the source code to squash a couple bugs, but it works very well.
---Hi Black Panther.
For offline reading? I use MultiMail. I did have to make a couple changes in the source code to squash a couple bugs, but it works very well.
I'm curiouse about what version you are using and for what platform.
I would love to figure out how to alter the colors. The blue is killing myeyes.
I would love to figure out how to alter the colors. The blue is killing my eyes.
On 01-04-21 15:45, Avon wrote to All <=-
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
On 01-03-21 22:46, Ogg wrote to Avon <=-
But it can also be used in 64bit Windows under WineVDM. It works extremely well.
On 01-04-21 16:54, Avon wrote to Ogg <=-
On 03 Jan 2021 at 10:46p, Ogg pondered and said...
I use SemPoint. It is a 16-bit Windows program that installs and
works fine on WinXP or Win7 32-bit.
Thanks I'll check it out :)
Avon wrote to All <=-
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
My MultiMail linux uses a file called colors in the ~/mmail directory.
I have never changed it but there are a few examples in the source archive. Youcan grab that at..
http://wmcbrine.com/mmail/
I would love to figure out how to alter the colors. The blue is killing my eyes.
... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52
Thanks, I am playing with this now... just trying to help a user at
Agency gain access to a bunch of echos via QWK :)
For offline reading? I use MultiMail. I did have to make a couple
changes in the source code to squash a couple bugs, but it works very well.
I'm curiouse about what version you are using and for what platform.
I would love to figure out how to alter the colors. The blue is killing myeyes.
Does MultiMail have a twit filter? I couldn't seem to find one in the
UI or inthe config files. Mystic seems to give me all messages
regardless of who's onmy twit list. Assuming Mystic's twit list doesn't apply to offline messages,which may be expected behaviour.
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
I've run SemPoint under WineVDM and it works very well, but found Multimail suited me better. :) Never got around to trying OpenXP. WineVDM certainly revives those old 16 bit Windows programs one may have lying around. :)
Quoting Deepthaw to Avon <=-
On 01/05/2021 10:45 am Avon said...
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
BlueWave/386 for DOS in DOSBox. MM is nice, but I still prefer the original.
I'm trying that right now, just to see what it's like. I'll probably
want to find another editing rather than TED.COM though...
Jay
... Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch!
___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30
--- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A47 2020/11/23 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms (21:3/110)
Hmm, Bluewave/386 works but for some reason it adds a number to the start of the To: field...
Quoting Al to Warpslide <=-
Hmm, Bluewave/386 works but for some reason it adds a number to the start of the To: field...
A Y2K bug I think. There is a fix for that in BW-Y2K.ZIP or
BW-Y2K2.ZIP.
Thanks for that. I've applied the BW-Y2K2.ZIP patch and am typing this reply with it. Let's see what it looks like...
SemPoint has a nice feature set. I just preferred the simplicity of text mode, and stuck with Multimail. The GUI often gets in the way for me, in terms of navigating large numbers of messages.
On 01-04-21 16:43, NuSkooler wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Twas Tuesday, January 5th when Vk3jed said...
I've run SemPoint under WineVDM and it works very well, but found Multimail suited me better. :) Never got around to trying OpenXP.
WineVDM certainly revives those old 16 bit Windows programs one may have lying around. :)
Any tips on getting this to work? When I run the SETUP.EXE it mostly
works but gives an error RE failing to copy a file at the end. When I
run the installed SEMPOINT.EXE I get an instruction error and it exits (all under otvdmw.exe)
On 01-05-21 09:23, acn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Have you had a look at OpenXP?
It is a point software, so you need to configure it as a downlink in
your BBS, but it is really great at managing all the messages...
And it is a textmode program :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Any tips on getting this to work? When I run the SETUP.EXE ...
Strange. I installed WineVDM, then simply installed SemPoint and accepted the defaults. I can run it by double clicking on the icon or the .exe, just like any other Windows program. I'm running under 64 bit Win 10. Other than looking like a Windows 3.x program,
Have you had a look at OpenXP?
It is a point software, so you need to configure it as a downlink in
That makes it a non starter. I use QWK, because it's easy to switch devices. Point systems and NNTP both suffer from maintaining their own
last read pointers, which isn't suitable for my style of operation.
Vk3jed wrote to acn <=-
The textmode part is definitely good for me, but point is a deal
breaker because of how I operate.
Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Do you really carry around the QWK files from device to device -
a LOT? Or.. do you just like the thought of being able to do it?
I'm trying that right now, just to see what it's like. I'll probably want to find another editing rather than TED.COM though...
I think there are a couple of
WineVDM distributions - I chose the easiest one to install. :)
Do you really carry around the QWK files from device to device -
a LOT? Or.. do you just like the thought of being able to do it?
I think it's more a matter of being able to keep the same newscan
pointers between a QWK packet and logging in via telnet to read messages locally. At least that's the key for me.
Hello poindexter!
** On Tuesday 05.01.21 - 07:54, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg:
Do you really carry around the QWK files from device to device -
a LOT? Or.. do you just like the thought of being able to do it?
I think it's more a matter of being able to keep the same newscan pointers between a QWK packet and logging in via telnet to read messa locally. At least that's the key for me.
But then instead of juggling multiple QWK files (and their
respective .REP files) on different devices, why not just make
the progam portable, say on a USB drive? OpenXP could work that
way.
On 01-05-21 08:45, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hey.. I resemble that remark! Sempoint is looks much BETTER
than a typical Win 3.x program. ;)
On 01-05-21 08:49, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
That makes it a non starter. I use QWK, because it's easy to switch devices. Point systems and NNTP both suffer from maintaining their own
last read pointers, which isn't suitable for my style of operation.
Do you really carry around the QWK files from device to device -
a LOT? Or.. do you just like the thought of being able to do it?
On 01-05-21 07:53, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I never tried it, but there used to be a program that would combine QWK packets. That could be the best of both worlds in a DPMI environment
where you had enough memory to deal with a huge QWK packet.
My poor old DOSBOX/Multimail environment wouldn't cut it, sometimes it chokes on larger QWK packets.
On 01-05-21 15:21, NuSkooler wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On Wednesday, January 6th Vk3jed muttered...
I think there are a couple of
WineVDM distributions - I chose the easiest one to install. :)
This might be my issue then -- I shall try some others. Thanks!
On 01-05-21 16:15, Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
But then instead of juggling multiple QWK files (and their
respective .REP files) on different devices, why not just make
the progam portable, say on a USB drive? OpenXP could work that
way.
On 01-05-21 17:50, Charles Pierson wrote to Ogg <=-
I don't think it involves muktiple QWK/REP files. Itps a matter of if
he downloads a QWK file from his BBS. later if he logs on to that BBS,
the mrssage counter will be accurate from where the QWNK file left off.
It is a point software, so you need to configure it as a downlink in
That makes it a non starter. I use QWK, because it's easy to switch devices. Point systems and NNTP both suffer from maintaining their own last read pointers, which isn't suitable for my style of operation.
your BBS, but it is really great at managing all the messages...
And it is a textmode program :)
The textmode part is definitely good for me, but point is a deal breaker because of how I operate.
Hey.. I resemble that remark! Sempoint is looks much BETTER
than a typical Win 3.x program. ;)
Well it looks more like Win3.1 than than a modern 32/64 bit program when running on Windows 10 under WineVDM. :)
Do you really carry around the QWK files from device to device -
a LOT? Or.. do you just like the thought of being able to do it?
No, but I know when I download the next QWK file from a different device, it picks up where the previous QWK left off, regardless of what device I read the previous QWK on. But if push came to shove, I could move QWK files between devices (I haven't in recent years).
So how it works:
I read this QWK now on the Windows desktop, and reply, upload replies when I'm done.
Were I travelling and staying overnight somewhere tomorrow, I'd take the Linux netbook with me..
And for a touch, I have a script that pulls down a copy of my taglines
file out of the cloud and updates the one on the local copy of Multimail
on the netbook. :)
But then instead of juggling multiple QWK files..
Nothing to juggle, I finish a QWK packet on one machine before switching.
The portable idea is actually more likely to fail, through simply forgetting the USB stick,
because it belongs to neither the hom setup or
the portable one. Bad idea for me. :)
it's done a bit like you describe. No QWK packets need to be copied between devices, because I finish the QWK session on the device I started it on.
I've installed OpenXP on one of my servers and use it via SSH :)
And except for DOVE-Net (as not being an FTN) and some direct-to-my-node- address NetMail, I use OpenXP as my single message reader system, although it means that the messages are stored twice (in my BBS and in OpenXP).
The version I have is apparently called "OTVDM" (I think), installs into c:\otvdm and the main exe is otvdm.exe. :)
... (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened...
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?Multimail is the default standard right now.
DOVEnet *is* available via FTN.
I'm:
--- OpenXP 5.0.48
* Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)
DOVEnet *is* available via FTN.
I'm:
--- OpenXP 5.0.48
* Origin: Ogg's Dovenet Point (723:320/1.9)
Oh, good to hear! :)
Then I'll have to look for an uplink node.
Who do I have to contact? :)
And except for DOVE-Net (as not being an FTN) and some direct-to-my-node- address NetMail, I use OpenXP as my single
message reader system, although it means that the messages are stored twice (in my BBS and in OpenXP).
Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
But then instead of juggling multiple QWK files (and their
respective .REP files) on different devices, why not just make
the progam portable, say on a USB drive? OpenXP could work that
way.
I think you started using Synchronet, so you could have it feed FTN to anything else (like your point software) - it's pretty easy to do.
I feed Dovenet to my Hub via FTN, so you are welcome to connect to it
as well and get it via FTN.
Let me know if you want to go that way, or if you want help setting up Synchronet.
DOVEnet *is* available via FTN.
Oh, good to hear! :)
Then I'll have to look for an uplink node.
Who do I have to contact? :)
It is Mike Powell of:
http://capcity2.synchro.net
http://capitolcityonline.net/
If you have the nodelists for Fido, Micronet and FSXnet
configured, he's in all three.
Doesn't OpenXP simply blow the socks off anything comparable out
there? :D
Adding Dovenet to the mix is very sweet.
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
Multimail is the default standard right now.
On 01-06-21 14:41, acn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Ah okay.
I've installed OpenXP on one of my servers and use it via SSH :)
And except for DOVE-Net (as not being an FTN) and some
direct-to-my-node- address NetMail, I use OpenXP as my single message reader system, although it means that the messages are stored twice (in
my BBS and in OpenXP).
your BBS, but it is really great at managing all the messages...
And it is a textmode program :)
The textmode part is definitely good for me, but point is a deal breaker because of how I operate.
No problem :)
On 01-06-21 08:10, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Oh ok, you've got it hovering in a window or something. Sure..
then the design differences scream out.
But you have to admit that Sempoint's design is well thought out
and not gimmicky or cuetsy.
BTW.. I actually liked the way Win-OS2 could present a DOS
window, an OS2 native window and a Windows window all at the
same time AND be able to recognize the differences.
On 01-06-21 08:36, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Ah.. but that *can* leave a scatterling of unfinished (unread)
QWK files across multiple devices. That would drive me nuts.
So how it works:
THANK you for describing your process. So.. basically, you
actually finish dealing with a QWK when you are on any specific
device. Then, when go to another device and a new qwk the status
of a previous collection messages doesn't matter anymore.
Ah ok.. so then you finish working with any qwk on the last
device you use it on before you switch devices. That's important information.
I could not do that. I have messages from even 2 or 3 months
prior marked for replies but have not had the time to properly
work on my thoughts for them. Trying to find those same messages
across different QWK packets would be nuts.
BTW.. I think it was the Durango offline reader that first
introduced a system that merged messages from QWKs and stored
them in a common database-like system. Even Compuserve's offline
system was comparable to that.
Someone could use Sempoint's QWK/database system from a USB stick
on any supported OS and gain very nice portability. Same thing
with OpenXP. The latter is available for both Win and Linux OSes.
You have a lot of patience and efficiency and time if you can
finish all your intended replies in each QWK, move on, and
discard the rest.
Even this case, I will only reply to your messages, but I saw
some others from other people that I might like to reply to
later. Meanwhile, I also want to get new ones.
I ran into a situation where I'd download a qwk, start reading,
recognize that there is some cool information to keep or reply
to, but didn't have the time. Several days would go by and I'd
yearn to read the latest stuff. MORE, interesting messages and
more info that I would like to file. Then, I started to sort
older qwks and trying to remember which qkw had what. Total
frustration.
As a sysop, you probably have all the history of message on your
BBS anyway. But the USER does not have that option. The USER
needs something that emulates the offline storage of older
messages on a BBS. Enter, Durango/Sempoint/OpenXP.
And for a touch, I have a script that pulls down a copy of my taglines
file out of the cloud and updates the one on the local copy of Multimail
on the netbook. :)
Your tagline collection is a good one.
On 01-06-21 08:48, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Nothing to juggle, I finish a QWK packet on one machine before switching.
Yes.. I deduced that from a revelation that you made in a
previous message!
The portable idea is actually more likely to fail, through simply forgetting the USB stick,
Keep the USB stick on a keychain? You always have keys with you
when you travel, right?
BUT.. I don't necessarily advocate the keychain approach. I lost
a USB when the whole pocket that the usb slips into fell off the
keychain :( A better solution would be a usb that is designed
to slip onto a keychain directly.
because it belongs to neither the hom setup or
the portable one. Bad idea for me. :)
Different OSes?
On 01-06-21 08:53, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hello Vk3jed!
** On Wednesday 06.01.21 - 20:14, Vk3jed wrote to Charles Pierson:
it's done a bit like you describe. No QWK packets need to be copied between devices, because I finish the QWK session on the device I started it on.
The great "a-ha!" moment. Thank you.
An average USER may not acquire that kind of discipline.
As a sysop, you can always look up an older message on your BBS.
An offline user cannot if the older qwk file is gone. A visit to
the BBS might work, but searching for an older message on a BBS
can be tedious.
On 01-06-21 15:34, NuSkooler wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On Thursday, January 7th Vk3jed muttered...
The version I have is apparently called "OTVDM" (I think), installs into c:\otvdm and the main exe is otvdm.exe. :)
I was using the latest from here:
https://github.com/otya128/winevdm
On 01-06-21 05:40, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg <=-
I thought about using DOSBOX portable and a cloud provider, that could work to provide the same environment and the same messages across
multiple devices.
I feed Dovenet to my Hub via FTN, so you are welcome to connect to itThat would be also a good idea.
as well and get it via FTN.
And if I remember correctly, you are my boss node for fsxNet, so that wouldn't be such a great deal, I think :)
I think, the Synchronet SYNCDATA echo should be left to QWK for the data to synchronize correctly, should it?
What net/node number would I use (and where to get it?) for any of these options?
[...]I've installed OpenXP on one of my servers and use it via SSH :)
That makes it an "online service" - what's the point? At least it's text mode, but still, might as well read on the BBS. :) One thing I'm after is being isolated from the network while reading. :)
Yeah, the problem with a point is that its basically an independent system, usually running on one machine (sure, portable operation may be possible, but that means remembering to take the USB device it's on everywhere).
And if I remember correctly, you are my boss node for fsxNet, so that
wouldn't be such a great deal, I think :) I think, the Synchronet
SYNCDATA echo should be left to QWK for the data to synchronize
correctly, should it?
I am :)
I feed everything to my hub, and so you could get SYNCDATA as well - but
the contents of that echo are probably only useful for a Synchronet BBS.
You can choose to not subscribe if you dont need it.
I'll have to set you up on Monday - I'm away on a family holiday and my
time online is limited. :(
What net/node number would I use (and where to get it?) for any of these ac>> options?
I'll netmail you a node number, it'll be 10:1/* something (which is what I use internally) - I'll probably make the node number the same as FSX, and I'll use the same password details already - that way, when you collect FSX mail you could also collect dove at the same time...
I'll have to set you up on Monday - I'm away on a family holiday and myNo hurry!
time online is limited. :(
Okay. So, the DOVE-Net FTN is more or less between us only or is the FTN DOVE-Net also more organized?
On 01-06-21 08:53, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hello Vk3jed!
** On Wednesday 06.01.21 - 20:14, Vk3jed wrote to Charles Pierson:
it's done a bit like you describe. No QWK packets need to be copied between devices, because I finish the QWK session on the device I star it on.
The great "a-ha!" moment. Thank you.
An average USER may not acquire that kind of discipline.
I'm not an average user, but an experienced one with knowledge of how
best to manage my quirks. :) A user could use my methods, if they
worked for them.
Unless sleep finally overcame insomnia, or I had a time constraintlike Ba> work/school, I almost never left a packet incomplete once I opened it.
On 01-08-21 11:55, acn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Okay, that's a good point :) My setup really only works "online".
Yeah, the problem with a point is that its basically an independent system, usually running on one machine (sure, portable operation may be possible, but that means remembering to take the USB device it's on everywhere).
How do you carry your QWK packets around?
I see your point and like that you found your solution.
On 01-08-21 06:43, Barmed wrote to Vk3jed <=-
When I was using Offline mail readers, I had a rather disciplined (I thought) system. I called dozens of systems for various echos and networks that I was interested in. I'd call them all. downloading the packets, then go throygh them all reading and replying,then call them
all back upliading my reply packets. Unless sleep finally overcame insomnia, or I had a time constraint like work/school, I almost never
left a packet incomplete once I opened it.
On 01-08-21 13:23, acn wrote to deon <=-
I have a Synchronet BBS and thus think that this echo is relevant for
some Inter-BBS stuff that I've set up.
And I don't know if it all would still work if its FTN instead of
QWK... (addresses?)?!
Okay, that's a good point :) My setup really only works "online".Yeah, by definition. :)
How do you carry your QWK packets around?Umm, seen a device like a netbook without some form of storage lately?
;) On the netbook's HDD, of course, assuming I haven't read, replied
and the deleted the packet. :)
I have a Synchronet BBS and thus think that this echo is relevant for
some Inter-BBS stuff that I've set up.
And I don't know if it all would still work if its FTN instead of
QWK... (addresses?)?!
2 things:
1. It should still work in FTN, you just have to make sure any apps or doors using SYNCDATA are pointed to the right sub.
2/ Some of the apps running on it are available for other BBSs as well, I think. :)
Vk3jed wrote to Ogg <=-
I'm not an average user, but an experienced one with knowledge of how
best to manage my quirks. :) A user could use my methods, if they
worked for them.
I've also bought a small notebook, a GPD P2 Max, which is a small little
~9 inch device with decent hardware that I now use happily for using
OpenXP or a browser from my couch :)
And I don't know if it all would still work if its FTN instead of1. It should still work in FTN, you just have to make sure any apps or doors
QWK... (addresses?)?!
using SYNCDATA are pointed to the right sub.
So the origin of "data messages" in SYNCDATA is not that important, eg. avatar data, is it?
I've also bought a small notebook, a GPD P2 Max, which is a small little a>> ~9 inch device with decent hardware that I now use happily for using
OpenXP or a browser from my couch :)
OMG.. It is about $1300 on amazon.ca
So the origin of "data messages" in SYNCDATA is not that important, eg. ac>> avatar data, is it?
Avatar, and SBBSList data.
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
That would be another non starter, because by definition, it's not isolated from the network.
Ogg wrote to acn <=-
I've also bought a small notebook, a GPD P2 Max, which is a small little
~9 inch device with decent hardware that I now use happily for using
OpenXP or a browser from my couch :)
OMG.. It is about $1300 on amazon.ca
So the origin of "data messages" in SYNCDATA is not that important, eg. avatar data, is it?
Black Panther wrote to Avon <=-
On 04 Jan 2021, 03:45p, Avon said the following...
What are folks using these days for QWK packets?
For offline reading? I use MultiMail. I did have to make a couple
changes in the source code to squash a couple bugs, but it works very well.
---Hi Black Panther.
BTW.. I think it was the Durango offline reader that first
introduced a system that merged messages from QWKs and stored
them in a common database-like system. Even Compuserve's offline
system was comparable to that.
Never heard of that reader.
..Then, I started to sort older qwks and trying to remember
which qkw had what. Total frustration.
Saving the individual messages as text files is the solution.
:)
On 01-09-21 14:05, acn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Okay, I thought that I've read that you use it on more than one device, hence my question ;)
But as you also wrote that you always complete your QWK packets every time, there doesn't seem to be the need to carry everything around.
I've also bought a small notebook, a GPD P2 Max, which is a small
little ~9 inch device with decent hardware that I now use happily for using OpenXP or a browser from my couch :)
On 01-09-21 14:07, acn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
So the origin of "data messages" in SYNCDATA is not that important, eg. avatar data, is it?
On 01-09-21 13:03, Tiny wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to Ogg <=-
I'm not an average user, but an experienced one with knowledge of how
best to manage my quirks. :) A user could use my methods, if they
worked for them.
My way of messaging pretty much is exactly like yours. Multiple computers
so offline mail and one BBS (my own) is the way that works for me as well.
On 01-09-21 09:53, Bob Roberts wrote to Vk3jed <=-
And I don't know if it all would still work if its FTN instead of1. It should still work in FTN, you just have to make sure any apps or
QWK... (addresses?)?!
doors
using SYNCDATA are pointed to the right sub.
Based on recent checkins, DM is adding support for Avatars in FTN messaging, which is cool.
On 01-08-21 06:44, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
That would be another non starter, because by definition, it's not isolated from the network.
I miss the days of carrying portable apps on a thumb drive in to work,
in order to keep my work PC home-free. I'd run a portable browser and
mail client, then push everything through an SSH proxy.
On 01-09-21 23:15, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
http://archives.thebbs.org ..and search for durango.
..Then, I started to sort older qwks and trying to remember
which qkw had what. Total frustration.
Saving the individual messages as text files is the solution.
:)
Maybe that's "a" solution, not "the" solution. Durango, OpenXP
and Sempoint provide that filing system built-in. All one has to
do is mark the messages that are to be saved, and they "live"
inside the program. If the person still wants to export to save
them, they can do that too.
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
That would be another non starter, because by definition, it's not isolated from the network.
I miss the days of carrying portable apps on a thumb drive in to work, in order to keep my work PC home-free. I'd run a portable browser and mail client, then push everything through an SSH proxy.
... Think of the radio
When I was to HP's employee selection hell..
..I also ended up using a custom environment. Of
the 10 candidates, there were days I was the only guy able
of finishing assingments because I was the only one with a
working env.
The only standalone application suit I have in an USB drive
is SFK (Swiss File Knife). It is a program that runs on
Linux, Windows or Mac..
My poor old DOSBOX/Multimail environment wouldn't cut it, sometimes i chokes on larger QWK packets.
I run on Win64 here, think I should have enough RAM. :P The netbook is Linuxwith 2G RAM, IIRC.
But the question remains: will it still work then SYNCDATA is not a QWK echo, but a FTN one?
On 01-09-21 23:15, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
http://archives.thebbs.org ..and search for durango.
OK, cool. :) Found it. Will depend on the navigation, I'm always wary og GUI apps on that score. :)
I could not get it to load on my WinXP. I think I even tried
Dosbox - but that was months ago. Maybe the archive is corrupt?
Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-
Everyone else was struggling with vi or
simple one-line text editors for a long time.
That one looks amazing and handy. Back in the day, I used
DOSnix and similar *nix-like programs for the DOS environment.
I have durqwk14.zip here but I have no Windows to try it on.
I don't know if that's the latest version but it might work
better?? Maybe.
What about this thing?
https://www.japheth.de/HX.html
HX fully supports this goal, but goes some steps further. A Win32
API emulation layer is part of HX which allows many Win32 console applications to run in DOS.
Furthermore HX implements - limited - support for windows, DirectDraw, GDI and even OpenGL graphics. This allows to run "simple" Win32 GUI apps in DOS as well."
But the question remains: will it still work then SYNCDATA is not a QWK ac>> echo, but a FTN one?
I don't believe so. The import processes look for the QWK message bases. However, as I mentioned before, DM is in the process of updating the software to support SYNCDATA over FTN. If you have a fresh release, your version of SBBSEcho is 3.12, and that version populates your BBSID in a kludge line which is the first step to making it work. I don't believe he has the import features completed yet.
If you're running Synch, I would recommend using the QWK networking for Dove-Net. It's integrated nicely and already setup. You just have to create the account on Vert and put the password in your Timed Events.
On 01-10-21 13:08, Warp 4 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, I like the Linux version myself. Just need to build a VM for
telnet BBS use now so I can download MultiMail and build it from
scratch :)
On 01-10-21 14:53, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I think it's console design.
I could not get it to load on my WinXP. I think I even tried
Dosbox - but that was months ago. Maybe the archive is corrupt?
Vk3jed wrote to Warp 4 <=-
Linux makes a nice BBS terminal, can even dispense with the GUI, make
it look and feel more like DOS. :)
On 01-13-21 08:07, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to Warp 4 <=-
Linux makes a nice BBS terminal, can even dispense with the GUI, make
it look and feel more like DOS. :)
I've thought about having a low-end console linux box just boot into DOSBOX.
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