..I never manage to get more than one round of strawberries -
my sister about 45 min away has batch after batch. Someday
maybe I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong there.
There are wild ones on my property. Tiny but still pack a punch of flavour. Without looking it up (I am throttled down to 36Kbps at this moment as I have run out data quota and can't look it up) strawberries basically like acidic soil - and ofcourse - the little pollinators known as bees help a lot. I've noticed that either mice, birds or some other wild creatures would take a bite out of them and waste the rest.
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over the mountainranges. Then you have other lesser knows like elderberries (which IMO are quitegood)
In The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim you can find many fine elderberry bushes.
Hawk if you've never actually tried them and get a chance, do it. They
can besemi bitter if you just eat them from the bush when they are not 100% ripe, butthey make great pies (I still like them off the bush) :D
Yes - I can think of a few things that I also like off the bush.
That's awesome. I have been spending a lot of time watching videos trying to learn about my telescope (while I wait for the Seattle weather to STOP RAINING! lol) and I have seen some larger ones and they seem really neat. Iwish we had more space in our house, otherwise I would think about
getting one!
Thank you so much! Yes, so far it has been great. Lots of fun learni to use a BBS and figuring out all the unique features of each one. I know there is a lot more to still see.
And at some point you'll probably get the impulse to become a sysop. :)
That said, definitely no pressure on that count, since non-sysop users
are uncommon, these days.
On 01-07-21 15:21, Avon wrote to Adept <=-
But if you set something up for yourself, and others happen to find it, like it, use it, then it's like the cherry on top...
I wouldn't assume that non-sysop users are so uncommon. ..
Just my tuppenceworth on this; despite my being tempted to become a sysop again, I keep thinking about doing it, and I remember what effort goes
into it. I know I can set up Enigma or Mystic in about 30 mins, but it's what happens from there that counts. If I made a half-assed BBS then there would literally be no point in doing it..
Being a user again over the last six+ months has been a lot of fun for me on a personal level and so I think that at least for now, it's a good
thing to have one less Sysop talking away :)
On 01-07-21 15:21, Avon wrote to Adept <=-
But if you set something up for yourself, and others happen to find i like it, use it, then it's like the cherry on top...
That's my philosophy. If I get no users, I'm not worried, but users are more than welcome here. :)
On 08 Jan 2021, Vk3jed said the following...
On 01-07-21 15:21, Avon wrote to Adept <=-
But if you set something up for yourself, and others happen to fin like it, use it, then it's like the cherry on top...
That's my philosophy. If I get no users, I'm not worried, but users ar more than welcome here. :)
That's what held me up for years. "What could I possibly offer in a BBS that 50 people aren't already doing better?" I'm no ANSI artist, nor a strong programmer. But setting up and running a BBS is something I've wanted to do since I discovered them when I was a teenager.
That's my philosophy. If I get no users, I'm not worried, but users are
more than welcome here. :)
That's what held me up for years. "What could I possibly offer in a BBS that 50 people aren't already doing better?" I'm no ANSI artist, nor a strong programmer. But setting up and running a BBS is something I've wanted to do since I discovered them when I was a teenager.
I would say design your bbs that somehow reflects your
personality and interests.
** On Friday 08.01.21 - 06:54, Barmed wrote to Vk3jed:
That's my philosophy. If I get no users, I'm not worried, but users
more than welcome here. :)
That's what held me up for years. "What could I possibly offer in a BB that 50 people aren't already doing better?" I'm no ANSI artist, nor a strong programmer. But setting up and running a BBS is something I've wanted to do since I discovered them when I was a teenager.
I would say design your bbs that somehow reflects your
personality and interests.
You'll probably want to name it, and the name could be the
lauchpad for more inspiration.
Maybe find a handful of ansi art that suits a theme and
incorporate that into some of the menus.
If it's just for messaging, maybe just incorporate only the
message bases that suit the theme or those that you can
contribute to yourself.
On 01-08-21 06:54, Barmed wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On 08 Jan 2021, Vk3jed said the following...
On 01-07-21 15:21, Avon wrote to Adept <=-
But if you set something up for yourself, and others happen to find i like it, use it, then it's like the cherry on top...
That's my philosophy. If I get no users, I'm not worried, but users are more than welcome here. :)
That's what held me up for years. "What could I possibly offer in a BBS that 50 people aren't already doing better?" I'm no ANSI artist, nor a strong programmer. But setting up and running a BBS is something I've wanted to do since I discovered them when I was a teenager.
that 50 people aren't already doing better?" I'm no ANSI artist, nor a strong programmer. But setting up and running a BBS is something I've
I would say design your bbs that somehow reflects yourThat is dangerous, because then it becomes extremely personal.
personality and interests.
Then you start crying, because the worlds rejection against your board
is an indirect rejection of your personality, of which the board is an extension.
I know, I know, I am the optimistic guy in the block.
I mean, I'm not much of an ANSI artist, nor particularly strong at programming; I just made 100s of ANSIs and got slightly better, and code until I get what I want.
I think BBSs are especially good for this -- if you're already handling the technical difficulties of getting a BBS setup, you can probably
handle the logic of figuring out some Python script.
And with ANSI, you can use reference images to help you draw, these
days, and you're oftentimes working in an 80x25 space anyway, so it
feels like a bit more constrained of a canvas, and thus perhaps more approachable.
But not that you _have_ to do any of that -- sysops are basically doing lots of unpaid labor for fun, so it better be something you want done,
or enjoy doing.
Your depressing slippery slope applies to pretty much _every_ hobby.
But not that you _have_ to do any of that -- sysops are basically doing
lots of unpaid labor for fun, so it better be something you want done,
or enjoy doing.
It's stuff I'd like to do, eventually. It's just a matter of focus.
Barmed wrote to Vk3jed <=-
That's what held me up for years. "What could I possibly offer in a BBS that 50 people aren't already doing better?" I'm no ANSI artist, nor a strong programmer. But setting up and running a BBS is something I've wanted to do since I discovered them when I was a teenager.
I would say design your bbs that somehow reflects your
personality and interests.
That is dangerous, because then it becomes extremely personal.
You design the BBS in such a way that it matters to you by
including stuff that is meaningful to you. Ie if you like
paper planes you fill your BBS with paper planes. The BBS
becomes an extension of your personality.
Then nobody calls in a year, but a troll and a buch of
Internet bots.
Then you start crying, because the worlds rejection against
your board is an indirect rejection of your personality, of
which the board is an extension.
Lots of projects work in a fulfilling way if it is just the
maintainer who cares, but projects with a social component
don't.
I know, I know, I am the optimistic guy in the block.
On 01-09-21 10:15, Barmed wrote to Adept <=-
It's a not so funny joke in my family that I can't draw a straight line with a ruler. :-)
Programming is less of a worry for me. I understand it somewhat, I'm
just decades out of practice. I have done a lot of trouble shooting
and finding issues with other peoples programs since then, so It's
mostly a matter of just doing it.
And with ANSI, you can use reference images to help you draw, these
days, and you're oftentimes working in an 80x25 space anyway, so it
feels like a bit more constrained of a canvas, and thus perhaps more approachable.
But not that you _have_ to do any of that -- sysops are basically doing lots of unpaid labor for fun, so it better be something you want done,
or enjoy doing.
On 01-09-21 07:03, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Barmed <=-
I'm a pretty bad ANSI artist, and I was intimidated by some of the
efforts of the ANSI groups and other people's work, but I started a BBS
mostly to have a single place to read all of my messages. It was the technical challenges that I gounf entertaining; gluing together a
mailer, nodelist utilities, file echo tossers, mail tossers, a BBS, and all of the associated stuff, tied together with a batch file, and
serving messages and files off of a cast-off PC sitting in the corner running DOS - that was fun.
Programming is less of a worry for me. I understand it somewhat, I'm just decades out of practice. I have done a lot of trouble shooting and finding issues with other peoples programs since then, so It's mostly a matter of just doing it.
With me, programming doesn't fit who I am. I have the technical
aptitude, but not the right mental states. I had to quit coding in 1987 (other than absolutely necessary) to save my sanity, as I found coding very isolating and depressing. And it's also a very sedentary activity, which also isn't sustainable for long periods.
And with ANSI, you can use reference images to help you draw, these days, and you're oftentimes working in an 80x25 space anyway, so it feels like a bit more constrained of a canvas, and thus perhaps more approachable.
I find it harder, because it's even harder to get what I want to be visible. I also find the interfaces of a lot of drawing software hard
But not that you _have_ to do any of that -- sysops are basically doi lots of unpaid labor for fun, so it better be something you want done or enjoy doing.to work with.
Exactly, and this is where the "eliteism " of ANSI art and mods
irritates me.
mostly to have a single place to read all of my messages. It was the technical challenges that I gounf entertaining; gluing together a mailer, nodelist utilities, file echo tossers, mail tossers, a BBS, a all of the associated stuff, tied together with a batch file, and serving messages and files off of a cast-off PC sitting in the corner running DOS - that was fun.
That was me as well. I loved the technical challengeof getting all the sofware woring properly. :) And I also loved the interaction oofreading messages, and the social challenges of mixing different user groups on
the one BBS, which was sometimes a big thing in the eary 90s.
With me, programming doesn't fit who I am. I have the technical aptitude, but not the right mental states. I had to quit coding in 1987 (other than absolutely necessary) to save my sanity, as I found coding very isolating and depressing. And it's also a very sedentary activity, which also isn't sustainable for long periods.
I'm a pretty bad ANSI artist, and I was intimidated by some of the
efforts of the ANSI groups and other people's work, but I started a BBS
I just couldn't get ANSI art to work, and software like TheDraw just frustrated me. I don't work well with drawing software interfaces in general.
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
and the social challenges of mixing different user
groups on the one BBS, which was sometimes a big thing in the eary 90s.
Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
There was something about the TheDraw that I had problems with too! But
I really wanted to port my artistic skills to ansi art, but never did.
..PabloDraw is a lot more intuitive to me, and I've done
more with it this year than all other years with TheDraw
combined.
Did you use it to design your logo? It's a nice result.
On 01-10-21 07:00, Barmed wrote to Vk3jed <=-
My problem is that I'm at times able to multitask, and othervtimes I hyperfocus on something so much that nothing else around me matters.
And right now, neither of those modes are working. I have so many
things that I want/need to do that nothing actually is getting done,
but I can't really focus one one thing, because there are things like helping my wife while she's recovering that don't take all of my time,
but need to be attended to when she needs it. When I do get focused, I can't do that.
I like ANSI art, but sonetimes it seems really overdone. If/when I get around to that, I'd just want something simple, but nice looking.
On 01-10-21 07:10, Barmed wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Those are all similar to my reasons as well. I'm not a social person
by nature. I actually thought about it a couple of days ago, There is exactly one person I regularly talk to in person that isn't a family member. And I probably talk more in the BBS community than I do with
him.
On 01-10-21 09:14, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Programming is certainly not for everyone. Some would think it is
boring. But I wouldn't attach the adjective sedentary to it. Along with several conventional programming languages under my belt when I worked
in industry, I programmed in ATLAS. While waiting for one set of code
to compile, I worked on another. Programming was the opposite of
sedentary to me.
On 01-10-21 09:16, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I just couldn't get ANSI art to work, and software like TheDraw just frustrated me. I don't work well with drawing software interfaces in general.
There was something about the TheDraw that I had problems with too! But
I really wanted to port my artistic skills to ansi art, but never did.
On 01-10-21 09:13, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
and the social challenges of mixing different user
groups on the one BBS, which was sometimes a big thing in the eary 90s.
So true, especially with local BBSes where we'd get together every
couple of months. Real-life interaction (in "meatspace" as we jokingly called it back then; we thought we were "cyberspace jockeys") gave a
depth to interacting online that you don't get nowadays.
Programming was the opposite of
sedentary to me.
So, you run around while coding? ;)
I need connection to people, and that's what killed the coding stone
dead. Had I known what I know now, I could have backed off and avoided the full on burnout, which would have allowed me to keep it as a hobby, but I only knew hyperforus back then. And yes, I see your problem.
Hope your wife's doing well.
I like ANSI art, but sonetimes it seems really overdone. If/when I g around to that, I'd just want something simple, but nice looking.
I like or love a lot of the art, but not the attitude that some have.
There was something about the TheDraw that I had problems with too! B I really wanted to port my artistic skills to ansi art, but never did
Ditto. PabloDraw is a lot more intuitive to me, and I've done more with
it this year than all other years with TheDraw combined.
For one thing, I could often think better when I could pace
around bit every few minutes.
For one thing, I could often think better when I could pace
around bit every few minutes.
Same here. Every time I write a few lines of code or, get something to work, reach a small milestone, get paste a hurdle, etc, I pace around the house fo a bit. It helps me, though not sure in which way exactly.
I also have a stand up desk, so I'm actually standing up half the day...
For one thing, I could often think better when I could pace
around bit every few minutes.
Same here. Every time I write a few lines of code or, get
something to work, reach a small milestone, get paste a
hurdle, etc, I pace around the house for a bit. It helps me,
though not sure in which way exactly.
I also have a stand up desk, so I'm actually standing up
half the day...
That aside, I'll confess I'm pretty much sedentary. I try to
go for walks outside every day but lately I've been so
caught up with work I barely stop all day. Not very
healthy...
I hope things return to normal soon so that I can
take the time to have a proper lunch, go for a walk, etc.
I had not realized, but I also move a lot while doing code
and computer stuff.
It is a combination of factors. FOr one thing, I use
multiple computers that are phisically separate, often in
different rooms, at once. I may have one start downloading
stuff, move to a different computer, code something, then go
back to the first one, set it to compile something, and
return to the second one.
Also I have the scanners and printers separated from where
my computers are, so when I need to print or scan anything
(which is quite common) I have to walk to the printers and
back.
Also I have the scanners and printers separated from where
my computers are, so when I need to print or scan anything
(which is quite common) I have to walk to the printers and
back.
I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to those destinations.
It is a combination of factors. FOr one thing, I use multiple computers that are phisically separate, often in different rooms, at once. I may have one start downloading stuff, move to a different computer, code something, then go back to the first one, set it to compile something,
and return to the second one.
When I get a phone call, I'll tend to walk around while talking
on the cordless phone.
then I am off doing something else. I don't even bother with a
regular chair - I use a round adjustable vintage piano stool.
Some people have found that if they set a timer to go off at a
certain time to take that as a reminder to take a break. Maybe
try something like that.
Myself, I can lock up my shop for about 15 minutes and just take
quick walk outside up and down the sidewalk - that helps to give
I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to
those destinations.
My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.
..My computer is on the 2nd floor, the kitchen is on the
first floor, and the printer is in the basement... So if I
want to eat or print something, I have to take the stairs...
which I must take MANY times a day.. Every little bit helps
I suppose.
When I get a phone call, I'll tend to walk around while talking
on the cordless phone.
Back in the day, before the cordless varieties were available,
we'd have a coiled cord for the "main" wall phone at the handset
(not counting the portable extensions with their own standard
phone cords) that could almost extend the full length of the
house. Pacing and talking just seemed to delvelop into a
"thing" for me.
My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.
If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D
The call lasted maybe 40 minutes or so, when the it was over
I hung up and then said to myself "how did I end up in the
kitchen?!"
Hello Arelor!
** On Thursday 14.01.21 - 03:29, Arelor wrote to Ogg:
I bet you'd be a lot happier if you could go horseback to
those destinations.
My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.
If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D
On 14 Jan 2021, Ogg said the following...
My horses have expressed the desire to move into the house
with me but I think that would be troublesome.
If you'd ask the horse, they would probably disagree with you.
All you have to do is provide the similar ammenities as you do
in their barns. Can a horse be housebroken as can a dog or cat?
Maybe your horses are willing to try. :D
That would be one big doggy door to install!
WHY does the printer need to reside in the basement? Is it one
of those heavy-duty commercial types that simply too big to tuck
away in a corner of your 2nd floor ops-control room?
The call lasted maybe 40 minutes or so, when the it was over I hung up
and then said to myself "how did I end up in the kitchen?!"
On 01-13-21 06:38, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
So, you run around while coding? ;)
Oh I see what you mean; coding = sitting. But actually, I
*would* move around a lot.
For one thing, I could often think better when I could pace
around bit every few minutes.
And, in my case, after a successful compilation, I had to get up
and go to the test station hardware (the product where the
resultant code was eventually loaded to run) to check the
results. The MicroVAX on which the compilation was performed
was at a remote location in the building, but the product
machine was across the hall from me - in a locked secure room.
I often had multiple segments of code for different functions
and features compiling while I was checking the results of other
bits of code on the product.
Can you visualize that now?
On 01-13-21 06:11, Barmed wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hope your wife's doing well.
She's doing much better. Mostly she's frustrated that her energy levels aren't what she wants them to be. She's always been independent and the person that helps everyone else. Needing someone else to help her and letting them is not a thing she likes.
So true, especially with local BBSes where we'd get together every couple of months. Real-life interaction (in "meatspace" as we jokingly called it back then; we thought we were "cyberspace jockeys") gave a depth to interacting online that you don't get nowadays.
I'd never heard the term "meatspace" until recently.
Avon wrote to Nightfox <=-
I had heard of it and recall thinking ewwww... when I did, but I guess it's like a 2020s version of IRL.
It dates back to Cyberpunk fiction, Mondo 2000 and the 1990s - when we
were
all sure we'd be jacked into a virtual reality Metaverse.
Avon wrote to Nightfox <=-
I had heard of it and recall thinking ewwww... when I did, but I
guess it's like a 2020s version of IRL.
It dates back to Cyberpunk fiction, Mondo 2000 and the 1990s - when we were all sure we'd be jacked into a virtual reality Metaverse.
couple of months. Real-life interaction (in "meatspace" as we jokingly called it back then; we thought we were "cyberspace jockeys") gave a depth to interacting online that you don't get nowadays.
Agreed, though I've found Moebius more intuitive than PabloDraw.
But TheDraw seems to be the only option for making animations, from what
I know of.
But it's hard to make animations work decently anyway, so I'd probably just do any future animations in code.
It dates back to Cyberpunk fiction, Mondo 2000 and the 1990s - when
we were all sure we'd be jacked into a virtual reality Metaverse.
Fortunately Zuckerborg and will build the real (non-fictional) metaverse for us.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/facebook-wants-us-to-liv e-in-the-metaverse https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58949867
Fortunately Zuckerborg and will build the real (non-fictional)metaverse
for us.
Fortunately Zuckerborg and will build the real (non-fictional)metaverse
for us.
What could go wrong
Fortunately Zuckerborg and will build the real (non-fictional)
metaverse for us.
Something like that has already been around for quite a while: Second
Life (which I heard was inspired by Snow Crash).
Aside from "Zuckerborg", I've also seen some people call him "Fuckerberg".
I saw the new Meta logo and had to google "Zuckerberg Meta" and the first association that came to mind. Glad I'm not the only one ...
https://www.ladbible.com/news/technology-people-are-all-making-the-same-ru de-observation-about-new-meta-logo-20211029
The logo does look a little weird. That says it's supposed
to be an infinity symbol, but that's not what the infinity
symbol typically looks like.
Aside from "Zuckerborg", I've also seen some people call him
"Fuckerberg".
Fortunately Zuckerborg and will build the real (non-fictional)metaverse
for us.
What could go wrong
It dates back to Cyberpunk fiction, Mondo 2000 and the 1990s - when
we were all sure we'd be jacked into a virtual reality Metaverse.
Fortunately Zuckerborg and will build the real (non-fictional) metave for us.Something like that has already been around for quite a while: Second
Life (which I heard was inspired by Snow Crash).
"That's Meta: Canadian Material Firm Gains 25% as investors
Mistake it for Facebook Rebrand
It dates back to Cyberpunk fiction, Mondo 2000 and the 1990s - when we were all sure we'd be jacked into a virtual reality Metaverse.
I saw the new Meta logo and had to google "Zuckerberg Meta" and the first association that came to mind. Glad I'm not the only one ...
Some people confused Meta with another company..
"That's Meta: Canadian Material Firm Gains 25% as investors
Mistake it for Facebook Rebrand
"In an alternate universe, Meta Materials in Canada has seen a
major boost on the Nasdaq, after it was mistaken for Mark
Zuckerberg's rebranded virtual world.
Some people confused Meta with another company..
"That's Meta: Canadian Material Firm Gains 25% as investors
Mistake it for Facebook Rebrand
"In an alternate universe, Meta Materials in Canada has seen a
major boost on the Nasdaq, after it was mistaken for Mark
Zuckerberg's rebranded virtual world.
aLPHA wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Still waiting for the Snow Crash HBO series! :)
I saw the new Meta logo [...]
when I saw a photo of them uncovering it, they snapped the
image mid reveal. From the bit that was revealed I thought
that they could colour the bits of the logo that was on
show yellow. If they did that it would look like the top of
the McDonalds golden arches. :)
I would have liked a "Lawnmower Man meets Johnny Mnemonic" 90's vibe.
The movie might try to take itself too seriously now.
WHo would you cast in it?
Avon wrote to Oli <=-
I saw the new Meta logo and had to google "Zuckerberg Meta" and the first association that came to mind. Glad I'm not the only one ...
when I saw a photo of them uncovering it, they snapped the image mid reveal. From the bit that was revealed I thought that they could colour the bits of the logo that was on show yellow. If they did that it would look like the top of the McDonalds golden arches. :)
Geri Atricks wrote to Nightfox <=-
Does anyone remember VRML? Virtual Reality Markup Language? I think it was back in like the early 90's or somewhere around there.
Geri Atricks wrote to Nightfox <=-
Aside from "Zuckerborg", I've also seen some people call him
"Fuckerberg".
I like ZuckerBitch. :D :D :D
Geri Atricks wrote to aLPHA <=-
you mean besides the fact that it's going to be even MORE invasive then
FB already is when it comes to your privacy? With the Launch of Meta
you can kiss your privacy goodbye. This is why as soon as can figure
out a way to sepparart my personal account from the community action groups page that I'm in charge of, I will be forever deleting my FB account, and Zuckerbitch can kiss my A$$.
Aside from "Zuckerborg", I've also seen some people call him
"Fuckerberg".
I like ZuckerBitch. :D :D :D
Avon wrote to Oli <=-
I saw the new Meta logo and had to google "Zuckerberg Meta" and the
first association that came to mind. Glad I'm not the only one ...
when I saw a photo of them uncovering it, they snapped the image mid
reveal. From the bit that was revealed I thought that they could
colour the bits of the logo that was on show yellow. If they did
that it would look like the top of the McDonalds golden arches. :)
THE BOX 2.0 GAVIN NELSON EDITION
Oli wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Small correction: it's Gavin Belson, only works with a B in the
signature "GavinB".
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