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How's everyone fairing with the covid situation in your area?
Here in Canada, in just the last week the media has been in
ecstasy reporting how the cases have sky-rocketted and it's
the worse than ever it was! -- in a tone to suggest that we're
all gonna die from this thing.
Tonight there was a special feature reviewing the cases in a
long term residence where about 17 elderly all died within a
few months - purportedly because of covid. But the *star* of
the show was a careworker who worked their and developed a
pretty bad case of covid and nearly died herself.
Fine. Covid can be deadly. But one case is not all cases!
There never seems to be any reports on how the vast majority
of people sailed through this thing or how bad their sysmptoms
were.
It's just bad bad bad... we will die.
Every morning when I drive to work along a lone 4km stretch of
backroad, I pass a person walking their dog. There are no
houses and other people around and this person is wearing a
mask!
I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
I think there is another virus that has superceded covid.
I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
Maybe they forgot it, or maybe they are paranoid since the virus is invisible.
Maybe they forgot it, or maybe they are paranoid since the virus is
invisible.
I will sometimes leave mine on in the car just because I'm going from store to store and its not good to handle it and take it on and off.
We have waaaaaaaayyyy more positives then deaths than the shutdown times of the past. Heck, today we were at 8500 new cases,
reported. Life has pretty much been as normal. I hear Marion County, Indianapolis, has placed restrictions and schools are closing, but in our county everything is just moving forward.
For the record, despite my tone, I'm no skeptic; I'm staying put and preventing myself from a careless death :)
Hello!
How's everyone fairing with the covid situation in your area?
Here in Canada, in just the last week the media has been in
ecstasy reporting how the cases have sky-rocketted and it's
the worse than ever it was! -- in a tone to suggest that we're
all gonna die from this thing.
Tonight there was a special feature reviewing the cases in a
long term residence where about 17 elderly all died within a
few months - purportedly because of covid. But the *star* of
the show was a careworker who worked their and developed a
pretty bad case of covid and nearly died herself.
Fine. Covid can be deadly. But one case is not all cases!
There never seems to be any reports on how the vast majority
of people sailed through this thing or how bad their sysmptoms
were.
It's just bad bad bad... we will die.
Every morning when I drive to work along a lone 4km stretch of
backroad, I pass a person walking their dog. There are no
houses and other people around and this person is wearing a
mask!
I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
I think there is another virus that has superceded covid.
Hello!
How's everyone fairing with the covid situation in your area?
I suppose I shoulñd end this report with some good news,
so here you have them: I have been testing my epub for
High Tech Necromancy ant it looks awesome. I could upload
it to my site already, but I am gonna leave it on pre-
order in order to give the fans a chance to get it at a
discount. It is 10% off until 28th. Mechanical assassins
against the commanded-in-chief of Earth's armies, what the
f*** is nto to like? :-P
house coming to America in the next few months. Yes, I thought T**** should move along already; only because of who he has been over the last
There never seems to be any reports on how the vast majority
of people sailed through this thing or how bad their sysmptoms
were.
It's just bad bad bad... we will die.
I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
We have waaaaaaaayyyy more positives then deaths than the shutdown timesI think we need to measure the cases that need hospital care versus the situations that just make someone bedridden.
of the past. Heck, today we were at 8500 new cases, back in March/April
it was like 1,000 and everyone was freaking out. I'd love to hear the "science" relating to the viruses (I don't know what it's called this
late at night but ...) strength now versus back then. But so far we are
I think we need to measure the cases that need hospital care versus the situations that just make someone bedridden.
That's a lot of new cases. That many new cases can cause havok in hospitals for
those that end up needing hospitalization. We have in the range of 500 - 800 new cases a day here in BC, that is up significantly. I hope that families will
not have to deal with too many untimely deaths in their homes.
Todays numbers are 6,877 new positive cases, 22 new deaths, 11.3% 7-day positivity0
rate. ICU usage is 33.8% for COVID, 40% total. Statewide ventilator usage is 17.8%.
So .. the positive cases are high but I'd say we're doing OK, not great .. in hospitals. Looks like only 22% of ICU beds are available state wide.
Still too scary for me to be out running around like nothings going on for sure.
It's been a tough year and for those that celebrate the holidays it's going to be tough too. My Dad already canceled Thanksgiving as a result of his age/high risk; and having so many grand kids in school right now.
Sorry if this message is jacked, I'm in 16:9 mode right now and the message editor
needs some work.
Al wrote to Ogg <=-
If I was out walking my dog in the country I would not wear a mask but
it would be handy. I wear a mask when out shopping and coming into
close contact with others.
I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
Bob Roberts wrote to Al <=-
I will sometimes leave mine on in the car just because I'm going from store to store and its not good to handle it and take it on and off.
paulie420 wrote to Ogg <=-
Yea, I'm with you that... this is hard to navigate. I'm in the position that I don't HAVE to heed the warnings and even lockdowns.. but my
state just put in a new ONE MONTH lockdown and I'm feeling pretty
sh*tty over it man..
I don't want to be one of the people who just thumbs this thing - and hell, I don't want to catch covid at all... but the thought of staying
in for a new month is just... really on me tonight.
I think that I'll mostly heed the lockdown; but man.. the last year has really been hard on me and my career. I'm running at about 50%. Which;
I still feel blessed that I haven't lost everything... I'm afloat and all..
I just don't know what to think about a new lockdown, and this new
white house coming to America in the next few months. Yes, I thought
Trump should move along already; only because of who he has been over
the last year. Nothing else. He wasn't all bad... but I'm scared that
the new administration is going to try to lock us down.
This is still totally FUBAR; I just can't wait till covid moves along
man.
Thanks for posting, and... we're all getting thru this the best we can. Lets hope its over soon enough. God.
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If the hospitals are being overrun, then clearly states need toWe are going to get small businesses pernamently destroyed in an effort to make covid-19 "nearly non existent". We need reliable tests that have less false positives. I know we need to stay away from politics in this network, but I hope we can figure out a way to respect lives and the economy. Or make sure our posts have an element on how to unite people.
reevaluate shut downs and/or restrictions; and only in the
cities/townships that are experiencing the spike.
How's everyone fairing with the covid situation in your area?
When people do that I wonder if they are doing it so they don't forget to put it on when they get out of the car.
On 11-14-20 23:22, Ogg wrote to All <=-
How's everyone fairing with the covid situation in your area?
On 11-14-20 22:20, Al wrote to The Godfather <=-
That's a lot of new cases. That many new cases can cause havok in hospitals for those that end up needing hospitalization. We have in the range of 500 - 800 new cases a day here in BC, that is up
significantly. I hope that families will not have to deal with too many untimely deaths in their homes.
As long as folks stay vigilant we can flatten the curve again. I am
hoping for a vaccine and that it won't be long til it's ready, and when
it is ready I hope it works.
For the record, despite my tone, I'm no skeptic; I'm staying put and preventing myself from a careless death :)
Me too. I don't like it but that is what we have to do today whenever possible.
50% employment or 50% effectiveness?
Afloat is a good way to describe it. When this is over, we're all
going to be incredibly lucky to be more or less where we were in
March of 2020. Unfortunately, that won't be the case for the majority
of us - and for those who have lost someone or have loved ones in
recovery, there's no way I could get my head around it.
They figure it isn't as exciting to report that 99% of the people recover each day with little or no symptoms.
I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
Ok, that I don't understand.
It is easier to just not take the mask off
ajnd wear it on all the way
I think we need to measure the cases that need hospital care versusthe UG> situations that just make someone bedridden.
Amen! I think that would be a much more realistic number as to the
severity of the virus for sure. I don't look at US totals in depth, just
my state; I know my state has a dashboard that shows % of
hospitalizations (number in ICU, % of ICU occupancy, etc...) Those totals show me more of the reality of the situation then anything else. If the hospitals are being overrun, then clearly states need to reevaluate shut downs and/or restrictions; and only in the cities/townships that are experiencing the spike.
So .. the positive cases are high but I'd say we're doing OK, not great
.. in
hospitals. Looks like only 22% of ICU beds are available state wide.
Lots of work for people in the healthcare field. I hope we don't run them out of the stuff/energy they need to do their job.
I do it sometimes. Usually when I am driving from job to home and I expect to stop by to buy groceries and other things. It is easier to just not
take the mask off ajnd wear it on all the way than to put the mask on and off 4 times in the same trip. --
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I do it sometimes. Usually when I am driving from job to home and I
expect to stop by to buy groceries and other things. It is easier to
just not take the mask off ajnd wear it on all the way than to put the mask on and off 4 times in the same trip.
Weatherman wrote to Ogg <=-
They figure it isn't as exciting to report that 99% of the people
recover each day with little or no symptoms.
The Godfather wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
else. If the hospitals are being overrun, then clearly states need to reevaluate shut downs and/or restrictions; and only in the cities/townships that are experiencing the spike.
Al wrote to The Godfather <=-
Lots of work for people in the healthcare field. I hope we don't run
them out of the stuff/energy they need to do their job.
Utopian Galt wrote to The Godfather <=-
We are going to get small businesses pernamently destroyed in an effort
to make covid-19 "nearly non existent".
We need reliable tests that
have less false positives. I know we need to stay away from politics in this network, but I hope we can figure out a way to respect lives and
the economy. Or make sure our posts have an element on how to unite people.
Chaise wrote to Ogg <=-
Central California here. We've seen a slight bump in cases after Halloween. I suspect that has more to do with kids/families running
house to house all night than the season or 'second wave'. Time will tell. The growth rate on new cases seems to be dropping.
Chaise wrote to Blue White <=-
On 11/15/20, Blue White said the following...
Good chance. A few weeks back, I walked into the gas station by work, grabbed a soda, went through the checkout, and got back to the car
before realizing I did it all without a mask. I felt bad, totally
spaced, but it's easy to forget that we're still in the middle of this.
So .. the positive cases are high but I'd say we're doing OK, not great .. in
hospitals. Looks like only 22% of ICU beds are available state wide.
We are still dealing with the backlog of illnesses that were pushed aside wh this entire virus thing stated. Most of our hospitals are operating at near capacity but not due to the virus. Due to the backlog from earlier in the y and things that were not getting treated.
Less than 5% inpatient are virus related, 95% are everything else.
- Mark
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If we'd truly shut down nationwide in March for 3 weeks, I wonder how
this would look now. We'd have taken a hit economically, but the long
drain isn't looking any better.
They are talking about another lockdown.
I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
Ok, that I don't understand.
This subject has popped up before.
It's just that masks are terribly comfortable -- I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.
If I didn't wear glasses, I could see that. As it is, I can't see
much because my glasses are fogged up! :)
Utopian Galt wrote to The Godfather <=-
BY: The Godfather(21:1/165)
We have waaaaaaaayyyy more positives then deaths than the shutdown times of the past. Heck, today we were at 8500 new cases, back in March/April it was like 1,000 and everyone was freaking out. I'd love to hear the "science" relating to the viruses (I don't know what it's called this
late at night but ...) strength now versus back then. But so far we are
I think we need to measure the cases that need hospital care versus the situations that just make someone bedridden.
The Godfather wrote to Al <=-
Todays numbers are 6,877 new positive cases, 22 new deaths, 11.3% 7-day positivity0 rate. ICU usage is 33.8% for COVID, 40% total. Statewide ventilator usage is 17.8%.
So .. the positive cases are high but I'd say we're doing OK, not great
.. in hospitals. Looks like only 22% of ICU beds are available state wide.
Oli wrote to Weatherman <=-
They figure it isn't as exciting to report that 99% of the people recover each day with little or no symptoms.
here we go again ...
POLITICAL TOPIC ALERT!
I would also throw in how many of them had an underlying condition that made them more likely to be hospitalized with COVID, like COPD.
We locked down in Spain, hard, for 100 days, and we are objetively fucked now.
They are talking about another lockdown.
It's just that masks are terribly comfortable -- I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.
In good times, that's fine, but when Bobby's parents are spendingI would rather go to Grand Canyon University and get a MA for 16k if im getting zoom classes.
$58L a year for him to take Zoom classes in his parents' basement,
it's time to rethink things.
It's just that masks are terribly comfortable -- I think everyone will be wearing them in the future.
Lots of work for people in the healthcare field. I hope we don't run them out of the stuff/energy they need to do their job.
It is easier to just not take the mask off
ajnd wear it on all the way
This is what I prefer too. I'm taking the mask on before I leave home, and take it off, after being home again and washed my hands.
about it except from the president claiming all is well.
I was surprised to see kids trick-or-treating. Halloween and
Thanksgiving, combined with colder weather forcing people indoors is
going to be tough.
Lots of work for people in the healthcare field. I hope we don't run
them out of the stuff/energy they need to do their job.
How are we doing for health care PPE these days?
Haven't heard much about it except from the president claiming all is well.
Lots of work for people in the healthcare field. I hope we don't run
them out of the stuff/energy they need to do their job.
And hope for enough of them to stay healthy.
I was surprised to see kids trick-or-treating. Halloween and
Thanksgiving, combined with colder weather forcing people indoors is
going to be tough.
If ICU usage is 40%, how is availability only 22%? That only adds up to 62%, unless I forgot to carry a 1 or something. :)
If ICU usage is 40%, how is availability only 22%? That only adds up 62%, unless I forgot to carry a 1 or something. :)Because the 43% in the ICU have COVID, while only 22% of the ICU availabilityTOTAL in the state is 22% for all ICU cases combined. I should have been moreclear, but was typing off the dashboard I was
reading to make sure I had thepercentages right.
-tG
This is still totally FUBAR; I just can't wait till covid moves along man.
Thanks for posting, and... we're all getting thru this the best we can. Lets hope its over soon enough. God.
Re: Re: covid, here we go again..
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Nov 16 2020 03:44 pm
We locked down in Spain, hard, for 100 days, and we are objetively fucke now.
They are talking about another lockdown.
I think the horse is out of the barn -- probably too late for a shutdown to work effectively with this many cases now.
Here in Spain we are seeing an avalanche of patients in private
healthcare. These are not posh, rich, snobs or whatever have you. This is regular people who is getting rejected at socialized healthcare because
they shutdown lots of rooms for covid cases and have no room for anything else (mind you, to my knowledge, many covid rooms remain empty).
My horses once escaped from my barn once.
They disliked the experience so much that they returned on their own accord and, since them, have refused to go out of their house on their own.
I have a picture of a time when the wind tore down the gates of the horsefield,
and I found the horses waiting for me at the gate, not walking out.
There never seems to be any reports on how the vast majority O>> of people sailed through this thing or how bad their sysmptoms O>> were.
It's just bad bad bad... we will die.
It is a media virus, plain and simple. The fear porn drives their
rating similar to the a hurricane approaching does for the Weather
Channel.
They figure it isn't as exciting to report that 99% of the people
recover each day with little or no symptoms.
- Mark
They are talking about another lockdown.
I think the horse is out of the barn -- probably too late for a shutdown to work effectively with this many cases now.
The Godfather wrote to Blue White <=-
If ICU usage is 40%, how is availability only 22%? That only adds up to 62%, unless I forgot to carry a 1 or something. :)
Because the 43% in the ICU have COVID, while only 22% of the ICU availability TOTAL in the state is 22% for all ICU cases combined. I should have been more clear, but was typing off the dashboard I was reading to make sure I had the percentages right.
I would have visited, had it just been her immediate family and my Mom. I'm dying to see my mother, as
this last year has been hard on her. But... I disagree with the Thanksgiving dinner event they are
planning. Our mother is in her 70s, and to me its too much risk.
I would have visited, had it just been her immediate family and my Mom. I'm dying to see my mother, as this last year has been hard on her.
But... I disagree with the Thanksgiving dinner event they are planning. Our mother is in
her 70s, and to me its too much risk.
Here in Spain we are seeing an avalanche of patients in private healthcare. These are not posh, rich, snobs or whatever have you. This regular people who is getting rejected at socialized healthcare because they shutdown lots of rooms for covid cases and have no room for anythi else (mind you, to my knowledge, many covid rooms remain empty).
Much the same over here - at least in my local area. Hospitals are overloaded - but not with virus patients. They are overloaded with "everything else", which is likely pent up demand from earlier in the
year as other serious issues were being set aside and ignored.
As one who just recovered from Covid, and still suffering from it's effects also watched (from a far) my mother in law coming VERY close to dying from it, I can safely say this: you, sir, are a fucking idiot.
Here in Spain we are seeing an avalanche of patients in private healthcare. These are not posh, rich, snobs or whatever have you. Th regular people who is getting rejected at socialized healthcare beca they shutdown lots of rooms for covid cases and have no room for any else (mind you, to my knowledge, many covid rooms remain empty).
Much the same over here - at least in my local area. Hospitals are overloaded - but not with virus patients. They are overloaded with "everything else", which is likely pent up demand from earlier in the year as other serious issues were being set aside and ignored.
Not trying to argue or delve into a political debate, but...do either of you work in these hospitals? Where are you getting your statistics here?
paulie420 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I would have visited, had it just been her immediate family and my Mom. I'm dying to see my mother, as this last year has been hard on her.
But... I disagree with the Thanksgiving dinner event they are planning. Our mother is in her 70s, and to me its too much risk.
Every morning when I drive to work along a lone 4km stretch of
backroad, I pass a person walking their dog. There are no
houses and other people around and this person is wearing a
mask!
I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
I think there is another virus that has superceded covid.
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house coming to America in the next few months. Yes, I thought T**** should move along already; only because of who he has been over the l
Ah! He who must not be named!
There never seems to be any reports on how the vast majority
of people sailed through this thing or how bad their sysmptoms
were.
It's just bad bad bad... we will die.
It is a media virus, plain and simple. The fear porn drives their
rating similar to the a hurricane approaching does for the Weather Channel.
They figure it isn't as exciting to report that 99% of the people
recover each day with little or no symptoms.
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I *still* see people alone in their cars, driving, and wearing
a mask!
When people do that I wonder if they are doing it so they don't forget to put it on when they get out of the car. If they are driving a long distance, and the mask is actually one that will protect (some) against COVID, they will get sleepy. I had to report to the office one day last week. After wearing one for 30 minutes or so, I realized I should never wear one while driving... I would fall asleep.
We have had a mask mandate since, well, I can't remember when. Our cases have skyrocketed recently. A couple of weeks back, the medical experts were saying that positive cases were up, hospital visits were up, but
that ICU stays were remaining flat. I am not sure if that is the case now. "We" are in Kentucky, USA, BTW.
I tried looking for Magicka BBS Software and all of the links I found
that
are supposed to be a home page for the software, tell me that the url
is not
able to resolve. I'm guessing some folks here might know a thing or
two about
that and point me in the right direction?
I tried looking for Magicka BBS Software and all of the links I found that
are supposed to be a home page for the software, tell me that the url is not
able to resolve. I'm guessing some folks here might know a thing or
two about
that and point me in the right direction?
Magicka can be found at https://gitlab.com/magickabbs/magickabbs
I don't work on it anymore as I started over with C++ on a system called Talisman. Magicka is in plain C, it seems to work, I haven't had anyone tell me there are bugs in it (which I'm happy to fix if they come up).
Ah! He who must not be named!
The Prime Sinister of Canada? Or some other bog beast that begins with a capital "T"? :D
cults of experts, so-called "fact checkers", twitter outrage mobs /
cancel culture, and so on. Censorship is on the rise. People are becoming
Ah! He who must not be named!
The Prime Sinister of Canada? Or some other bog beast that begins wit capital "T"? :D
With the no-politics rule being what it is, I think we can all handle being a little flexible with the "he who must not be named" title.
However, if we can talk about RoUS (Rodents of Unusual Size), I think the chat would be all the better for it.
cults of experts, so-called "fact checkers", twitter outrage mobs / cancel culture, and so on. Censorship is on the rise. People are beco
For what it's worth, I think I'd consider any serious usage (and many unserious usages) of "cancel culture" to be an _extremely_ political statement, and thus running roughshod over the "no politics" rule.
Since I feel that way, I'm _definitely_ not responding to any of the
rest of the message.
Did not know about that rule. I simply figured that there must have been
a reason that a True Homer Simpson's DOH was not being named. ;)
So is Talisman essentially "Magicka: Reloaded" ?
Was not aware of that rule until now. But if I may ask, how does this network define "politics"? I've noticed in my encounters online, how people define that can be as diverse as it is disturbing.
I'll just keep it neutral and just state thats the reason why Facebook
might go in the way of Myspace in the future.
apam wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
I'll just keep it neutral and just state thats the reason why Facebook
might go in the way of Myspace in the future.
Maybe, but I doubt it. You're assuming that the majority of people disagree with the way facebook is operating, or at least care enough to have an opinion.
Did not know about that rule. I simply figured that there must have b a reason that a True Homer Simpson's DOH was not being named. ;)
Yeah, it was my joking way of reminding people about the no-politics
rule. Given how mentioning at least one political individual tends to
make people begin spasming politics (pro or con), "he who must not be named" also seems apt.
BY: Adept(21:2/108)
For what it's worth, I think I'd consider any serious usage (andmany
unserious usages) of "cancel culture" to be an _extremely_political
statement, and thus running roughshod over the "no politics"rule.
I'll just keep it neutral and just state thats the reason why Facebook might go
in the way of Myspace in the future.
So is Talisman essentially "Magicka: Reloaded" ?
Not really. They're similar in that they are both BBS systems, but it's a complete starting from scratch.
Magicka has some things talisman doesn't, talisman has some things
magicka doesn't. Talisman isn't a drop in replacement like WWIV 5.x is
for WWIV 4.x
Was not aware of that rule until now. But if I may ask, how does this network define "politics"? I've noticed in my encounters online, how people define that can be as diverse as it is disturbing.
"We know it when we see it".
I think the actual rule also involves religion (it's in the FSXnet info pack, if you're wondering), but the general idea is that if it's a
heated discussion (or is likely to trigger such a discussion) and you
have some idea on where a political party falls on the issue, it's probably politics.
But the rule survives on civility. If someone is going to go to the mat saying something is not political, and they really must continue discussing it, it'll probably just be bad for the network.
I'll just keep it neutral and just state thats the reason why Facebook might go in the way of Myspace in the future.
Maybe, but I doubt it. You're assuming that the majority of people disagree with the way facebook is operating, or at least care enough to have an opinion.
apam wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
I'll just keep it neutral and just state thats the reason why Facebook might go in the way of Myspace in the future.
Maybe, but I doubt it. You're assuming that the majority of people disagree with the way facebook is operating, or at least care enough have an opinion.
There is also something psychological with the likes and the dopamine and other stuff that goes on that gets people hooked, sort of like a drug. I don't think that MySpace quite got the hang of that bit of it.
- I will avoid old school obvious politics (ie: anything explicitly to do with red, blue, elephants, donkeys or any other similar colors or animals
Spectre wrote to Paradigms Shifting <=-
- I will avoid old school obvious politics (ie: anything explicitly to do with red, blue, elephants, donkeys or any other similar colors or animals
Does that include the elephant and wheelbarrow pub? :)
Does that include the elephant and wheelbarrow pub? :)
Is that in Melbourne?
I'm a US citizen, and live in the US, but have spent a couple of
"hazy" days in that fine establishment, back in about the year 2000.
Me personally, I am non-political and I have no politics. A concept that seems difficult for many to grasp when they encounter me. I do not trust government and I have no party loyalties. I think politics is merely s divide and conquer shit show, not unlike WWE Wrestling or Jerry Springer in maturity and attitude.
So I don't do left, right, elephants, donkeys, cults of personality or group think team loyalty. I am more of a George Carlin / Bill Hicks viewpoint, if you get my meaning.
As George Carlin once said when he explained why he does not vote: "on election day, I'll be doing pretty much the same thing you'll be doing. the only difference being -- when I masturbate, at least I'll have a little something to show for it!" <G>
On Wednesday, April 7th Paradigms Shifting muttered...
Me personally, I am non-political and I have no politics. A concept t seems difficult for many to grasp when they encounter me. I do not tr
You are smart..
I am so American that Professional Wrestling is REAL and Politics is
fake.
Now. I have a idea for a political party, stricly to make money..
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