Well I spent last night working on adding some new nodes to fsxNet and
replying to a few netmails. Tonight I have some inter-bbs stuff to work on re-adding a node, and adding a new system as well.

I have new copies of FH and GD from Andrew to send out, but honestly, getting everyone on the same game ID yet alone the same version of the game seems a
bit of a mission at the moment. My inclination is to keep the versions the same, try a bit more to get every known system that wants to be involved
active again and then push out the changed version.

I'm slowly working on Agency and getting it set up on a new Linux box, got
some Python stuff to suss next as some menus won't run and the system crashes so I suspect the version of Python I have running is incorrect. So will be following the wiki info on that tonight.

I have been learning about VNC options and know more about the different
sorts of servers that can run on Debian now, those that create virtual
desktops and a system (x11) that will show the logged in view of the actual desktop a user is using. Asides trying to get this stuff to auto run on boot I'm mostly sorted in this department.

Once I get Agency cut over and live I'll turn my attention to other things running on the windows box that I might like to migrate over.

Baby steps :)

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RE: Re: Daily Life
BY: Avon(21:1/101)

I have been learning about VNC options and know more about the different sorts of servers that can run on Debian now, those that create virtual desktops and a system (x11) that will show the logged in view of the
actual
desktop a user is using. Asides trying to get this stuff to auto run on
boot
I'm mostly sorted in this department.

Nice! Getting stuff to start on boot you generally have to make a systemd unit if it's a daemon, otherwise if it's a graphical application you want to start when you login, use your desktop's session manager.

I have new copies of FH and GD from Andrew to send out, but honestly, getting
everyone on the same game ID yet alone the same version of the game
seems a
bit of a mission at the moment. My inclination is to keep the versions
the
same, try a bit more to get every known system that wants to be involved active again and then push out the changed version.

Sounds like a plan.

Andrew


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Keep filling us in on this Avon... I too am doing the same thing over here..
I am slowly moving my windows boxes to Ubuntu 20.04, right now I have 2 boxes running Linux, although they are running Windows VM's to handle the BBS stuff right now, I intend to eventually get them off Windows completely and
although still in VM's over to Linux..

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I have new copies of FH and GD from Andrew to send out, but honestly, getting everyone on the same game ID yet alone the same version of the game seems a bit of a mission at the moment. My inclination is to keep
the versions the same, try a bit more to get every known system that
wants to be involved active again and then push out the changed version.

Ah yes, I remember those sorts of issues from back in the day. I'm not sure what games are currently in active development vs ones that are no longer developed and people are merely using the last known version to exist. I'd imagine that with todays technology, any "new games" (are there any?) might
be able to have a system that most modern softwares have that we're already used to: automatic updates.

I'm slowly working on Agency and getting it set up on a new Linux box,

I started on MS-DOS v3.0 with Windows for Workgroups v3.11. Over time, moved through the Windows versions x9, skipped ME, NT/2K/XP and then: migrated over to Debian Linux. Not too long after, Ubuntu. To finally arrive at my favorite Linux Distribution: Linux Mint

I am very pleased to see so much more Linux-oriented projects within the BBS Scene these days. Honestly, this is the first time I've created in account on any BBS in roughly a decade. My "BBSing Career" went from 1994-2010. I
migrated to Linux in 2006.

-:Paradigms Shifting:-

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On 13 Oct 2020 at 06:37p, Paradigms Shifting pondered and said...

I started on MS-DOS v3.0 with Windows for Workgroups v3.11. Over time, moved through the Windows versions x9, skipped ME, NT/2K/XP and then: migrated over to Debian Linux. Not too long after, Ubuntu. To finally arrive at my favorite Linux Distribution: Linux Mint

I think I am following a similar path. I've done all those OS also on the windows side and then all the ones after XP also. I run 10 on a home PC
today. I have also run Ubuntu and Debian systems for several years that
powered radio station playout software and an NNTP server respectively. So while I am not a total n00b I have not really used it (Linux) day to day.

I also have a few Raspberry Pi's so have experienced Raspbian and now the new Rpi OS that they rolled out a while back. All of which I think is still underpinned by Debian. So it's that variant of Linux that I have the most experience / comfort with :)

I am very pleased to see so much more Linux-oriented projects within the BBS Scene these days. Honestly, this is the first time I've created in

What I notice is asides the mods which really do seem to be ported to windows and Linux there's also the BBS software like Enigma 1/2, Magicka, and Synchronet and Mystic that all offer versions for Linux - that's good. :)

BBS Scene these days. Honestly, this is the first time I've created in account on any BBS in roughly a decade. My "BBSing Career" went from 1994-2010. I migrated to Linux in 2006.

Nice to see you active again :)

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On 13 Oct 2020 at 06:37p, Paradigms Shifting pondered and said...

I started on MS-DOS v3.0 with Windows for Workgroups v3.11. Over time moved through the Windows versions x9, skipped ME, NT/2K/XP and then: migrated over to Debian Linux. Not too long after, Ubuntu. To finally arrive at my favorite Linux Distribution: Linux Mint

I think I am following a similar path. I've done all those OS also on the windows side and then all the ones after XP also. I run 10 on a home PC today. I have also run Ubuntu and Debian systems for several years that powered radio station playout software and an NNTP server respectively. So while I am not a total n00b I have not really used it (Linux) day to day.

If you've not played with it yet, I think you would probably enjoy Linux Mint quite a lot. The default DE is designed to make it easy for Windows users to adapt without too much of a learning curve. The beauty is, the defaults can
be altered and modded out well outside of the default configuration. You can really make the Cinnamon Desktop truly your own. Much more customization than Gnome. There is also something I really truly enjoy about LM's file manager, Nemo.

It has an option called "connect to server" which among other things, allows you to connect to another box (LAN or Internet) by way of SFTP/SSH and browse it as if it were a local drive. No need for messy overly-complex SSHFS-FUSE setups. No odd scripts needed to be created or run. Just bookmark the
location on the other machine and, ta-da! :)

I also have a few Raspberry Pi's so have experienced Raspbian and now
the new Rpi OS that they rolled out a while back. All of which I think
is still underpinned by Debian. So it's that variant of Linux that I
have the most experience / comfort with :)

I have not yet messed with RPI/Raspbian. I've heard lots of really nice
things about it. I've seen people do amazing stuff with it. I just haven't personally gotten around to exploring it yet.

What I notice is asides the mods which really do seem to be ported to windows and Linux there's also the BBS software like Enigma 1/2,
Magicka, and Synchronet and Mystic that all offer versions for Linux - that's good. :)

Enigma 1/2 seems a bit rough around the edges, but has OBSCENE POTENTIAL. I really like how modern it appears to be. I like the fact that it seems to be built from the ground-up with the 21st Century in mind. I also like the fact that it seems to be OS-neutral. Anything that does Python, does Enigma 1/2.

I also really like the HJSON concept, because a programmer I am NOT. <LOL>

Though it will be nice when they eventually create some sort of graphical
front end reader for it. In fact, the fact that it is such an easy API to parse, I imagine that it would be easy enough for someone to create things
such as Nemo, Nautilus, etc plugins that would integrate the BBS configs into the file manager, etc of the OS -- and all kinds of other cool things. I mean
I could rant off all sorts of musings of my imagination as to the possibilities, but I digress.

I have not heard of Magicka BBS Software, I'll have to look into that one. You've got me curious.

My preference personally is Renegade / Telegard / Mystic type setups on both the Sysop and User ends of things, so I am thankful that your BBS is running Mystic :)

Your BBS is currently the only BBS I am frequenting for the moment. I'll
expand to others eventually, just trying to get my proverbial sea legs back.
I use to have the pipe codes memorized but its been so long that I have to
load TheDraw to check them for creating my sig! I need to make a macro. I
also need to re-memorize those codes again :)

I know Synchronet can be modded to look like a Mystic-style setup, and I've seen that done many times. Back in the day, I've explored both the User and Sysop end of various types of BBSes, including Renegade, Telegard, Mystic and Synchronet -- both the Win32/DOS variants, as well as the Linux variants
(SBBS & Mystic). While SBBS does have many lovely and convenient bells and whistles, in hind sight -- I think my heart will always belong to the RG/TG/Mystic side of things :)

I heard that someone did create a "from scratch" Telegard clone that runs
under Linux, and that they came a long way with it -- but sadly, the project was abandoned. Unless someone picked it back up again and I just have not
come across that information yet.

What I would really love to see is some sort of 21st Century API that allows for cross-communication with a variety of BBS Softwares. Easier to make a utility for an API that a number of BBS Softwares support, rather than to create it for each BBS Software separately. I get this sneaking feeling that Enigma 1/2 is going to be the key to that! :)

Does anyone know what the "1/2" stands for, anyways? And is the software pronounced "Enigma Half" or "Enigma and a Half"?

BBS Scene these days. Honestly, this is the first time I've created i account on any BBS in roughly a decade. My "BBSing Career" went from 1994-2010. I migrated to Linux in 2006.

Nice to see you active again :)

Good to be back! I originally left because the community aspect of BBSing seemed to be declining and it just wasn't the BBS Scene that I signed up for. Now with Big Tech censorship and all of the authoritarian fuckery (am I
allowed to use swear words in this message net?), there seems to be a massive community revival commencing, and that fills my heart with joy! <3 Thanks,
Big Tech! (ironically)

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RE: Re: Daily Life
BY: Paradigms Shifting(21:1/101)

Enigma 1/2 seems a bit rough around the edges, but has OBSCENE
POTENTIAL. I
really like how modern it appears to be. I like the fact that it seems
to be
built from the ground-up with the 21st Century in mind. I also like the fact
that it seems to be OS-neutral. Anything that does Python, does Enigma
1/2.

Just out of curiosity what do you find "rough around the edges"?

ENiGMA 1/2 has was started only a few years ago (around the same time I started
Magicka) I guess I can still say a few years ago, but probably around 5. So, yeah ENiGMA 1/2 and Magicka were both born in the 21st centuray so don't have any heratige to hold to, other than nostalgia.

If you think Enigma is rough around the edges, magicka will probably give you some nasty splinters :P I stopped working on it this year and took down the main website, but the code is available on gitlab, and I have a page here:

http://andrew.pamment.id.au/magickabbs/

I don't know if I will go back to it or not, sometimes I get tired of it but come back in a few months. This time seems different, but who knows.

To be honest though, I don't think there is a modern BBS package that isn't rough around the edges. There just isn't the man power to make a really polished product. (I mean no disrespect to any other authors out there, but I think you'd agree, there's always room for improvement).

Andrew

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Just out of curiosity what do you find "rough around the edges"?

ENiGMA 1/2 has was started only a few years ago (around the same time I started

I guess what I mean to say, is that I am more fluent with WFC-style menu configurations, rather than editing text file configs. Though I do like that HJSON does seem to make things much easier in this regard.

Especially when it comes to editing and customizing menu systems. Back in the day, systems like Renegade and Telegard made this quite easy. Where as with things like MPL, Baja, etc it would be very easy for me to accidentally break something.

I'm sure as Enigma 1/2 is used by more Sysops, there will be more third party utils than we can count, and I'm sure an RG-Style Configuration editor will likely end up in the mix somewhere.

.:- Paradigms Shifting -:.

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