Cheers guys.. hope you take a watch of this cool video.
all these companies - and in fact I used Stacker and then switched
between a few until... heck, AFTER this video on BBSes especially
everyone kinda moved away from these utilities.
We (a group of SysOps) called Stacker Stakker (dutch), which can be translated to Poor thing.
Back when I was setting up my BBS in 1993, I had an old Sysop tell me to never trust software pretending to be hardware. I've lived by that statement all these years and have never been disappointed. :)
Back when I was setting up my BBS in 1993, I had an old Sysop tell me never trust software pretending to be hardware. I've lived by that statement all these years and have never been disappointed. :)
Does a VPS count?
Back when I was setting up my BBS in 1993, I had an old Sysop tell me to never trust software pretending to be hardware. I've lived by that
Back when I was setting up my BBS in 1993, I had an old Sysop tell me never trust software pretending to be hardware. I've lived by that
And never use a hammer to compress your software ....
Does a VPS count?
Nope, because you're still on hardware.
On Mon Sep 28 12:06:00 2020, Adept wrote to Black Panther <=-
Does a VPS count?
Nope, because you're still on hardware.
So, is "software pretending to be hardware" just about the advertising?
I always thought of the drive-space-doubling programs as being, "Compresses various things on your hard drive so that you have more space", and avoided them because it sounded like something that was somewhere between snake oil and something only moderately useful (if I had drive space issues that compression would help, I'd probably just compress files myself.). And generally had some negative side effects.
I had a friend at school who tried to convince me that Double Spaceutilized previously unused parts
of your hard disk to increase the size... not compression. Now I am olderand somewhat wiser, I
wonder if he was "trolling" me. I don't know if trolling was a thing backthen, but I didn't know
about it.
would fall to one side and the computer wouldn't be able to read it. Up until he died 2 years ago, he always made sure to keep his floppy disks lying flat. ;)
I had a friend at school who tried to convince me that Double Space utilized previously unused parts of your hard disk to increase the
size... not compression. Now I am older and somewhat wiser, I wonder if
he was "trolling" me. I don't know if trolling was a thing back then,
but I didn't know about it.
...okay, now I know who I can put down in the "evil" column.
(Though maybe just chaotic neutral, if we're going D&D (not that I'm an expert).)
Indeed, if your disk was full with .zips or .arjs then these utils were useless.
Adept wrote to Black Panther <=-
I always thought of the drive-space-doubling programs as being, "Compresses various things on your hard drive so that you have more space", and avoided them because it sounded like something that was somewhere between snake oil and something only moderately useful
had drive space issues that compression would help, I'd probably just compress files myself.). And generally had some negative side effects.
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apam wrote to Adept <=-
I had a friend at school who tried to convince me that Double Space utilized previously unused parts of your hard disk to increase the
size... not compression. Now I am older and somewhat wiser, I wonder if
he was "trolling" me. I don't know if trolling was a thing back then,
but I didn't know about it.
There was a clown here trying to flog (sell), stock MFM drives on an RLL controller, with stacker/superstor, as 240Mb drives... <chuckle>
Hahaha. He was also one that would keep his important documents in the Recycle Bin on Windows, so that he could recycle them later when he
needed them... :)
Drivespace notched the hard drive, but you had to flip the drive over
yourself.
Drivespace notched the hard drive, but you had to flip the
drive over yourself.
I still have a hard time believing that taking a hole punch to a
5.25" floppy doubles your available space.
The comodore 64's 1541 5.25" drive has only one head. So putting the
notch into a disk and flipping it would work and was a way to gain the extra storage space.
When I had a C64 and the 1541 drive, I did that trick and it worked well.
On 10-06-20 21:29, Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Drivespace notched the hard drive, but you had to flip the drive over
yourself.
I still have a hard time believing that taking a hole punch to a 5.25" floppy doubles your available space.
The comodore 64's 1541 5.25" drive has only one head. So putting the
notch into a disk and flipping it would work and was a way to gain the extra storage space.
I still have a hard time believing that taking a hole punch to a 5.25 floppy doubles your available space.
Certainly did in the Apple II days. ;)
The comodore 64's 1541 5.25" drive has only one head. So putting the
notch into a disk and flipping it would work and was a way to gain the
extra storage space.
I guess that does explain it, and I had forgotten the reasoning.
Though I still don't know why it was so standard to take a hole punch to it rather than the disks just coming with notches on each side.
I assume there's a reason, though it could be the disappointing, "They charged more for that" answer.
On 10-07-20 20:23, Adept wrote to Vk3jed <=-
My brother was looking into some Apple II stuff, and learning about how the screens display by showing the first line, then a middle line, then
a bottom line, and repeating that until the screen is filled.
And evidently in the code, it's not that coders were choosing random
lines for some reason -- those three, far apart, lines really, oh, 0,
1, and 2 in the order of display.
Because reasons. That I'm sure there's an answer for out there, but probably only Woz could explain why it was a good design decision given the constraints of the time.
And, man, imagine the math one would have to do in order to properly
keep track of objects on the screen.
Would be interesting to know, but I'm sure there's be a reasonable (and interesting!) reason for this behaviour. It's interesting what
designers had to work around. Today, it's likely some chip manufacturer can do it in brute force with a gazillion onboard transistors. :)
Though I still don't know why it was so standard to take a hole punch to it rather than the disks just coming with notches on each side.
I assume there's a reason, though it could be the disappointing, "They charged more for that" answer.
I still have a hard time believing that taking a hole punch to a 5.25" floppy doubles your available space.
Though I still don't know why it was so standard to take a hole punch to it rather than the disks just coming with notches on each side.
On 10-08-20 16:22, Spectre wrote to Adept <=-
In practice I've never seen a SSDD with magnetic media on one side.
Maybe in the super early days there might have been.
In practice I've never seen a SSDD with magnetic media on
Probably would have cost more to retool for that than to simply make
all disks physicallyb double sided.
On 10-11-20 08:53, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
It may well be a throwback to even earlier days of 8" discs... for the type of disc to be noted it would have to existed in some form once.
type of disc to be noted it would have to existed in some form once.
On the drive side, cheaper to produce a drive with only one head, rather than 2. :)
On 10-12-20 06:39, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
type of disc to be noted it would have to existed in some form once.
On the drive side, cheaper to produce a drive with only one head, rather than 2. :)
While that is definitely true.... I can still conceive even in the face
of lack of evidence, that the media existed in some form even for a
short time as truely SS... It'd be a case of why do two sides if they
only want to use one? Rather than any other driver available at the
time.
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