On 26 Aug 2020, g00r00 said the following...

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/25 (Windows/64)
* Origin: Sector 7 | Mystic WHQ (1:129/215)

Hi Everyone,

g00r00 announced this over on the Fidonet MYSTIC echo.

Looks like Mystic A46 has been released. No more A46 pre-alpha!

Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms BBS | bbs.nrbbs.net | Binbrook, ON (21:3/110)

Looks like Mystic A46 has been released. No more A46 pre-alpha!

It still seems odd to me that versioning is such that _everyone_ uses alphas because it's the official releases.

Obviously, it's just numbers, and makes at least as much sense of counting up versions like, 3, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, XP, 7, 8, 10.

But does anyone remember anything about the "why" of version history with Mystic? I could explain it with Windows, but am at a loss as to the
differences between the alphas for v1.05 versus the 63 alphas of v1.10, and
the 46 alphas of v1.12.

But I'm not an old-timer. I only started at v1.12 A43.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

On 27 Aug 2020, Adept said the following...

It still seems odd to me that versioning is such that _everyone_ uses alphas because it's the official releases.

I've wondered that myself.

Obviously, it's just numbers, and makes at least as much sense of
counting up versions like, 3, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, XP, 7, 8, 10.

You forgot 2000, ME (a.k.a Millennium Edition), Vista & 8.1.

Admittedly 2000 was the only good release out of all of those. 8.1 made 8 "better" but I skipped that all together and went from 7 to 10.

But does anyone remember anything about the "why" of version history with Mystic? I could explain it with Windows, but am at a loss as to the differences between the alphas for v1.05 versus the 63 alphas of v1.10, and the 46 alphas of v1.12.

But I'm not an old-timer. I only started at v1.12 A43.

I only (re-)entered the scene at A45. I remember seeing one of Avon's videos showing us a preview of Mystic 2.0 back in 2016, but it looks a lot like what we're using now in A45 & A46.

I'd be interested in hearing this story as well.

Jay


... These automatic flowers won't do

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms BBS | bbs.nrbbs.net | Binbrook, ON (21:3/110)

On 27 Aug 2020, Adept said the following...

Looks like Mystic A46 has been released. No more A46 pre-alpha!

It still seems odd to me that versioning is such that _everyone_ uses alphas because it's the official releases.

The prealphas is where new and untested features go. Once they have had some testing g00r00 will release an alpha and once those have had some testing and we can be more or less sure things are working as expected there will be a
1.12 release.

So... if you have issues with any version it's a good idea to pass those by g00r00 so those knots can be worked out before an alpha or non-alpha release.

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Equinox BBS - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.2)

counting up versions like, 3, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE, XP, 7, 8, 10.

You forgot 2000, ME (a.k.a Millennium Edition), Vista & 8.1.

To be fair, I considered 2000 to be NT, and thus basically a different platform.

ME I've managed to block out enough to consider it to not have existed,
except as part of Windows CE ME NT. (Obviously, CE doesn't count, either)

But, yeah, just blanked on Vista. I suppose I should've known 8.1, but I also skipped from 7 to 10, and viewed 8 as, "Win7, but with a tile system you have to disable if you're not using a touch screen"

videos showing us a preview of Mystic 2.0 back in 2016, but it looks a
lot like what we're using now in A45 & A46.

Interesting! I half figure that at some point it became, "Eh, I feel like working on this, now, rather than worrying about what qualifies as a version number".

Which would seem _totally_ reasonable to me.

But, yeah, I have no idea.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

some testing g00r00 will release an alpha and once those have had some testing and we can be more or less sure things are working as expected there will be a 1.12 release.

So it's mostly that he's still adding various features, thus it's not really done with the testing phase, because there keep being new features?

Though I guess I also have no idea on what's not particularly working. But
I'm still pretty far away from the nitty gritty on that topic.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

On 27 Aug 2020, Adept said the following...

some testing g00r00 will release an alpha and once those have had som testing and we can be more or less sure things are working as expecte there will be a 1.12 release.

So it's mostly that he's still adding various features, thus it's not really done with the testing phase, because there keep being new
features?

Yes, the testing with the alphas and pre-alpha versions is open to anyone who would like to participate. I have always found the alpha's to be stable
enough for everyday use and for the most part that is so for the pre-alpha's also but folks should keep in mind those are testing versions and folks
should keep updated.

Though I guess I also have no idea on what's not particularly working.
But I'm still pretty far away from the nitty gritty on that topic.

I have that issue too.. before I report anything to g00r00 I like to talk to others and make sure it's a general issue and not something I did myself.. ;)

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Equinox BBS - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.2)

Hi Everyone,
g00r00 announced this over on the Fidonet MYSTIC echo.
Looks like Mystic A46 has been released. No more A46 pre-alpha!
Jay

Oh boy - looks like I have to do my first upgrade; I guess I'll backup first and hope it goes OK!



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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: American Pi BBS (21:2/150)

On 27 Aug 2020, paulie420 said the following...

Oh boy - looks like I have to do my first upgrade; I guess I'll backup first and hope it goes OK!

Went off without a hitch here. Only issue I've run into so far was trying to use mis poll instead of fidooll with Avon's inter BBS games node.

Jay


... England doesn't have a kidney bank, but it does have a Liverpool

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms BBS | bbs.nrbbs.net | Binbrook, ON (21:3/110)

Went off without a hitch here. Only issue I've run into so far was
trying to use mis poll instead of fidooll with Avon's inter BBS games node.
Jay

Is it mis poll instead of fidopoll for all FTN stuff after?



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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: American Pi BBS (21:2/150)

On 27 Aug 2020, paulie420 said the following...

Went off without a hitch here. Only issue I've run into so far was trying to use mis poll instead of fidooll with Avon's inter BBS games node.

Is it mis poll instead of fidopoll for all FTN stuff after?

I think so although I haven't switched my events to use mis poll yet, they
are still using fidopoll. I guess I'll have to switch that up before fidopoll goes away.

I do use mis poll from the command line when I do a poll manually since it's prettier.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Equinox BBS - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.2)

On 27 Aug 2020, paulie420 said the following...

Is it mis poll instead of fidopoll for all FTN stuff after?

Yeah, mis poll force / mis poll send / mis poll 21:3/100 instead of fidopoll.

Just doesn't seem to work w/ 21:1/0 right now for some reason.

Jay


... What do you call a bee who can't make up its mind? A maybe

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms BBS | bbs.nrbbs.net | Binbrook, ON (21:3/110)

On 26 Aug 2020, g00r00 said the following...

Hi Everyone,

g00r00 announced this over on the Fidonet MYSTIC echo.

Looks like Mystic A46 has been released. No more A46 pre-alpha!

Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms BBS | bbs.nrbbs.net | Binbrook, ON (21:3/110)

Who’s maintaining the wiki? gooroo?

$ The Millionaire $

..."Will we ever fear the ecstasy of free thought?" - Thinkman...
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* Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (21:1/183)

On 26 Aug 2020, g00r00 said the following...

Hi Everyone,

g00r00 announced this over on the Fidonet MYSTIC echo.

Looks like Mystic A46 has been released. No more A46 pre-alpha!

Jay

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/25 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Northern Realms BBS | bbs.nrbbs.net | Binbrook, ON (21:3/110)

Any major changes?

$ The Millionaire $

..."Will we ever fear the ecstasy of free thought?" - Thinkman...
--- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
* Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (21:1/183)

Is it mis poll instead of fidopoll for all FTN stuff after?

mis poll 00:00/0 (whatever the address) ... works much more fast and
without .bsy issues as I had with fidopoll. And as someone else
mentioned, it's a lot prettier :) I love the change.

-tG

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Underground [@] theunderground.us:10023 <-port (21:1/165)

except as part of Windows CE ME NT. (Obviously, CE doesn't count, either)

Just add aggregate for MS-Windows Concrete....

Spec


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--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Is it mis poll instead of fidopoll for all FTN stuff after?

mis poll 00:00/0 (whatever the address) ... works much more fast and without .bsy issues as I had with fidopoll. And as someone else mentioned, it's a lot prettier :) I love the change.

Dude, I'm almost considering doing a full install and porting over my BBS rather than upgrading - because of that user issue and all. :/

i dunno yet. :P



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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: American Pi BBS (21:2/150)