I normally do not post much, I read everything. I myself am normally a very quite person. However, I find myself at a crossroads personally as I struggle with deep sadness for what is happening today. And, personal loss that has been, to be short, very overwhelming.

To start off .... This whole COVID stuff has been overwhelming for me. I
have lost my son, My Mother, My Mother-in-law, my Sister-in-law and nephew. I have buried half of my immediate family in the last three months.

Then, All this chaos going on in some USA Cities, is overwhelming to see. Understand, I spent 1/2 my adult life serving in the US Navy. I spend time on US Ships, British Ships and French Ships all building lasting friendships
under once common goal. Protecting the Freedom of a Free World.

Now, in my older years, I watch all that is evolving in several USA cities
and the shear attack on our law enforcement. This is anarchy by pure definition.

I really do not want to get political, not to I want to take any sides ....
All I can see is blood ( RED ) being spilled. When is enough, enough ?

When, does someone realize this?

There is a big difference between defending the freedom of a world, verses destroying.

Like may other free countries in this world, there is a freedom, however,
where is this line drawn?

When is Enough, simply Enough?

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I really do not want to get political, not to I want to take any sides

It's political.

You're talking about either political protests or things that piggybacked on
to protests against the protesters' desires.

My condolences that there's not really a place for sensible discussion on politics where the point is to increase understanding.

nephew. I have buried half of my immediate family in the last three months.

That has to be awful on so many levels. My condolences on the pain and damage you, and those close to you, have suffered. I can't really imagine.

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On 24 Aug 2020, Argos said the following...

I normally do not post much, I read everything. I myself am normally a very quite person. However, I find myself at a crossroads personally as
I struggle with deep sadness for what is happening today. And, personal loss that has been, to be short, very overwhelming.

To start off .... This whole COVID stuff has been overwhelming for me.
I have lost my son, My Mother, My Mother-in-law, my Sister-in-law and nephew. I have buried half of my immediate family in the last three months.

I am deeply saddened, and don't know what you're going through. I hate that this pandemic has touched you in so many ways, and feel for someone who it touched so deeply. I am sorry.

Then, All this chaos going on in some USA Cities, is overwhelming to
see. Understand, I spent 1/2 my adult life serving in the US Navy. I
spend time on US Ships, British Ships and French Ships all building lasting friendships under once common goal. Protecting the Freedom of a Free World.

Thank you for your service... we appreciate that you have literally supplied
us with the freedom to make all choices. I hate that some Americans are choosing the wrong way right now, but hope that you know as a people...
theres many more of us that can and will make good choices; thanks for protecting that freedom... even for those who are using it in ways that we disagree with.

Now, in my older years, I watch all that is evolving in several USA
cities and the shear attack on our law enforcement. This is anarchy by pure definition.

I live in Portland, and agree... what has happened here and in Seattle should just not be allowed. It is excessive, violent and against what we stand for
in America. You wouldn't believe that a paragraph like this, viewed here in socialist America, will get you doxxed and attacked. I disagree with the way the movements are on the offensive. They really could have used this time for good. Instead, they ultimately aren't going to be heard... again.

I really do not want to get political, not to I want to take any sides .... All I can see is blood ( RED ) being spilled. When is enough,
enough ?

When it negatively affects them; hopefully not as deeply as you've been
touched during this pandemic. However, thats the answer... I fear that these movements will only see that when they're ideals are attempted and fail.
So... good luck.

When, does someone realize this?

When it touches their lives. When they feel it. When it hurts them.

There is a big difference between defending the freedom of a world,
verses destroying.
Like may other free countries in this world, there is a freedom, however, where is this line drawn?

It should have already been drawn. We should never let citizens take an area
as their own. What the...

When is Enough, simply Enough?

Not this year...



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Re: When is Enough ..... Enough ?
By: Argos to All on Mon Aug 24 2020 10:12 am

I normally do not post much, I read everything. I myself am normally a very

quite person. However, I find myself at a

crossroads personally as I struggle with deep sadness for what is happening

today. And, personal loss that has been, to be

short, very overwhelming.

Sorry to hear about your loses, man.

It always gets uglier before it gets better.

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I normally do not post much, I read everything. I myself am normally a

quite person. However, I find myself at a

crossroads personally as I struggle with deep sadness for what is happe

today. And, personal loss that has been, to be

short, very overwhelming.

I couldn't find the original post of whom wrote this. But please hang
in there and feel free to write more. We are all going through tough
times right now; and it helps to get it out of ones head, and this is a community of people who, for the most part, have all done so at some
point.

-tG

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On 08-24-20 10:12, Argos wrote to All <=-

To start off .... This whole COVID stuff has been overwhelming for me.
I have lost my son, My Mother, My Mother-in-law, my Sister-in-law and nephew. I have buried half of my immediate family in the last three months.

My condolences, that's awful, and a huge burden to bear. I hope you have people around who can help with emotional support.

Then, All this chaos going on in some USA Cities, is overwhelming to
see. Understand, I spent 1/2 my adult life serving in the US Navy. I
spend time on US Ships, British Ships and French Ships all building lasting friendships under once common goal. Protecting the Freedom of
a Free World.

From an outsider's point of view, the US is now a very troubled society. There seems to be a lot of systemic issues that are going to be challenging to fix, but the hard road is the only way this can possibly happen.

I don't like what I'm seeing over there, it is very concerning.


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On 08/24/2020 8:13 am Argos said...

.... All I can see is blood ( RED ) being spilled. When is enough, enough ?

When, does someone realize this?

There is a big difference between defending the freedom of a world, verses destroying.

I see it too..

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On 08/24/2020 8:13 am Argos said...

I normally do not post much, I read everything. I myself am normally a very quite person. However, I find myself at a crossroads personally as I struggle with deep sadness for what is happening today. And, personal loss that has been, to be short, very overwhelming.
To start off .... This whole COVID stuff has been overwhelming for me. I have lost my son, My Mother, My Mother-in-law, my Sister-in-law and nephew. I have buried half of my immediate family in the last three months.

I totally relate on the loss. While I don't know anyone personally
who has had the covid, quite a few friends/aquaintences died from suicide.
The part which I find overwhelming (at least here in the U.S.)
is the policy. This is not the first epidemic/pandemic I've lived through. It is the first one I have experienced where bad decision making by almost every nation/state/city.

Then, All this chaos going on in some USA Cities, is overwhelming to see. Understand, I spent 1/2 my adult life serving in the US Navy. I spend time on US Ships, British Ships and French Ships all building lasting friendships under once common goal. Protecting the Freedom of a Free World.

As for the cause the chaos. My analasys consists of:
1. Communication Breakdown which led to conflict of interests
2. Expecting humans to simply abandon livlihoods&activities does
not sound like a realistic measure to me. Yes I believe draconian measures
MAY have had a role to play.
3. Now everyone seems to know everything about disease (I'm in the camp
of I simply do not know)
As for risk. I have a lot of experience with high risk activities,
where a few seconds can change one's life forever.

As for solutions. Any peaceful solutions I have are more than likely
illegal in the united states. I have heard of MDMA (yes the popular
party drug) having possible applications in crowd control in civil unrest, yet have no proof of it.












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