• WC! DOS

    From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68.8 to All on Monday, August 20, 2018 18:16:01
    Hi All,

    I just finished moving a working installation of WC! 4.2SL from WinXP (where it

    was running perfectly using MS Virtual PC), over to Win 7 Pro using Oracle's Virtual Box VM software (MS VPC is not fully supported under Win 7).

    NOW, all WC! does on start-up is display "Carrier Detected, Dropping DTR", the modem lights (USR Courier VE) flash around some then WC! gives up and exits. :(


    Anyone have any idea what is going on? I've exhausted my efforts to re-configure things to WC!'s liking! Also, at NO time does the CD light come on

    (worked fine the other day) and the CD Override DIP switch is Off as expected. Init option &C1 has no affect either. The COM1 port and modem settings are all in sync, 115200 Baud, 8,N,1 with Hardware handshaking (CTS/RTS). Google has turned up nada on the situation.


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Ben Ritchey on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 17:44:00
    I just finished moving a working installation of WC! 4.2SL from WinXP (where
    it

    was running perfectly using MS Virtual PC), over to Win 7 Pro using Oracle's BR>Virtual Box VM software (MS VPC is not fully supported under Win 7).

    NOW, all WC! does on start-up is display "Carrier Detected, Dropping DTR", the
    modem lights (USR Courier VE) flash around some then WC! gives up and exits.
    :(

    Anyone have any idea what is going on? I've exhausted my efforts to BR>re-configure things to WC!'s liking! Also, at NO time does the CD light come
    on

    (worked fine the other day) and the CD Override DIP switch is Off as expected.
    Init option &C1 has no affect either. The COM1 port and modem settings are all
    in sync, 115200 Baud, 8,N,1 with Hardware handshaking (CTS/RTS). Google has BR>turned up nada on the situation.

    Did you install the tools as well as the extension pack?
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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 18:05:52
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    in sync, 115200 Baud, 8,N,1 with Hardware handshaking (CTS/RTS).
    Google has turned up nada on the situation.
    Did you install the tools as well as the extension pack?

    VBox? I installed the package plus the Guest additions. What else is there?


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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 18:25:27
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    Did you install the tools as well as the extension pack?

    Ok, after checking Oracle's site, what Tools? I installed the package which also installed the extension pack automatically (I downloaded it again and re-installed just to make sure though it said it was already installed) and the

    SDK is not an install so I don't need that I presume. Tell me I missed something! {chuckle}


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:261/20 to Ben Ritchey on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 20:32:03
    *** Quoting Ben Ritchey from a message to Robert Wolfe ***

    VBox? I installed the package plus the Guest additions. What else is t

    Oh, ok, that's about it. Have you tried a USB modem with this? I had it working with one of my two Zoom 57.6k USB modems and it worked fine under VirtualBox.

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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 21:15:15
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    Oh, ok, that's about it. Have you tried a USB modem with this? I had
    it working with one of my two Zoom 57.6k USB modems and it worked fine under VirtualBox.

    Yeah, USB seems fine. When I can afford one I will do just that {chuckle} thanks!


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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 21:28:52
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    Oh, ok, that's about it. Have you tried a USB modem with this? I had

    Thanks again, but I went scrounging thru my junk boxes and found a Usb 2.0 Serial port interface with drivers (gently used) so will give that a try 1st. Will keep ya posted! :)


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  • From Al DeRosa@1:267/157 to Robert Wolfe on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 22:39:47
    On 08/21/18, Robert Wolfe said the following...


    Oh, ok, that's about it. Have you tried a USB modem with this? I had it working with one of my two Zoom 57.6k USB modems and it worked fine under

    USB Modems, are tough, I tried running one with a VM and the host couldn't
    pass the com port to the VM. Even though it was a USB modem, the VM never saw it.. In fact it is now sitting in my closet gathering dust because I have no use for it.. LOL At least that was my experience with it...

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  • From Al DeRosa@1:267/157 to Ben Ritchey on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 22:40:22
    On 08/21/18, Ben Ritchey said the following...


    Yeah, USB seems fine. When I can afford one I will do just that
    {chuckle} thanks!


    I got one on ebay for $20, USR USB Fax Modem... They are a dime a dozen on there...

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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Al Derosa on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 03:31:55
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    Yeah, USB seems fine. When I can afford one I will do just that
    {chuckle} thanks!
    I got one on ebay for $20, USR USB Fax Modem... They are a dime a
    dozen on there...

    Yeah, Amazon has the USR USB new for $25 :)


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Ben Ritchey on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 06:21:06
    Oh, ok, that's about it. Have you tried a USB modem with this? I had it working with one of my two Zoom 57.6k USB modems and it worked fine under VirtualBox.

    Yeah, USB seems fine. When I can afford one I will do just that {chuckle} thanks!

    Well, have three actually - a small dell laptop USB modem and the two
    bigger ones. Name your price ;)
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Ben Ritchey on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 06:21:36
    Oh, ok, that's about it. Have you tried a USB modem with this? I had

    Thanks again, but I went scrounging thru my junk boxes and found a Usb 2.0 Serial port interface with drivers (gently used) so will give that a try
    1st.
    Will keep ya posted! :)

    oh, ok, cool. Please do.
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to Al Derosa on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 06:22:08

    USB Modems, are tough, I tried running one with a VM and the host couldn't pass the com port to the VM. Even though it was a USB modem, the VM never
    saw
    it.. In fact it is now sitting in my closet gathering dust because I have no use for it.. LOL At least that was my experience with it...

    With VirtualBox, not so much. VMWare workstation, yeah.
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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Robert Wolfe on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 14:16:08
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    Oh, ok, that's about it. Have you tried a USB modem with
    this? I had -> RW> it working with one of my two Zoom 57.6k USB
    modems and it worked fine -> RW> under VirtualBox.
    Yeah, USB seems fine. When I can afford one I will do just that
    {chuckle} -> thanks!
    Well, have three actually - a small dell laptop USB modem and the two bigger ones. Name your price ;)

    If one is a USR USB {gently used} we can talk?


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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Robert Wolfe on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 14:19:21
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    Oh, ok, that's about it. Have you tried a USB modem with
    this? I had
    Thanks again, but I went scrounging thru my junk boxes and found a
    Usb 2.0 -> Serial port interface with drivers (gently used) so will
    give that a try 1st. -> Will keep ya posted! :)
    oh, ok, cool. Please do.

    Failure {weeping} lol Oracle's VBox does NOT like serial ports, they all screw up the same way, too!


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  • From Al DeRosa@1:267/157.1 to Ben Ritchey on Saturday, August 25, 2018 19:46:07
    Re: Re: WC! DOS
    By: Ben Ritchey to Robert Wolfe on Wed Aug 22 2018 02:19 pm

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    Failure {weeping} lol Oracle's VBox does NOT like serial ports, they all screw up the same way, too!

    That's what I thought, I had issues with a little ditty called sexpots to allow dial up calls on pretty much any BBS. I couldn't get VBox to set up the right ports, then when I got an external modem, I tried to pass through COM 1 and it still didn't work, since the program is so small I just installed it on the host and am using it that way.. This is going to sound crazy, but you might want to try sex pots and install it on the host then let it contact your BBS via Telnet.. It works for me, my BBS is on a different computer in a VM and it gets through every time..
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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68.8 to Al Derosa on Saturday, August 25, 2018 19:19:28
    *
    * On Saturday 25 Aug 2018 237 at 07:46 PM,
    * Al DeRosa said to Ben Ritchey,
    * about Re: WC! DOS ...
    *

    No telnet for WC! just dial-up ...


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