Running timed event: BINKOUT
BinkIT/2.4 invoked with options:
Unexpected file path '/sbbs/fido/outbound/00010005.cut' expected '/sbbs/fido/outbound.032/00010005.cut'
Zone 32 is the only zone configured in this instance of sbbs and sbbsecho. It looks like I have missed something in the zone config.. but I don't see it.
so is that really your FTN Zone50?
HINT: in linux, with bash, you can do this...
printf "%d\n" 0x032
and to go the other way, decimal to hex...
printf "%x\n" 50
so is that really your FTN Zone50?
No, it is zone 32.
I don't know what changed but I did get the netmail here a few hours later.
HINT: in linux, with bash, you can do this...
printf "%d\n" 0x032
and to go the other way, decimal to hex...
printf "%x\n" 50
Thanks!
I don't know what changed but I did get the netmail here a few hours later.
Running timed event: BINKOUT
BinkIT/2.4 invoked with options:
Unexpected file path '/sbbs/fido/outbound/00010005.cut' expected '/sbbs/fido/outbound.032/00010005.cut'
Hello Digital Man,
I am testing a new QWK/FTN network. The QWK side is working as expected but FTN outbounds are giving me an error.
I assigned myself an FTN node and sent a message to Areafix at the FTN hub. The message was received and processed by Areafix and 00010005.cut was placed in the outbound and binkit is called to send the reply but I get this error on the console..
Running timed event: BINKOUT
BinkIT/2.4 invoked with options:
Unexpected file path '/sbbs/fido/outbound/00010005.cut' expected '/sbbs/fido/outbound.032/00010005.cut'
Zone 32 is the only zone configured in this instance of sbbs and sbbsecho. It looks like I have missed something in the zone config.. but I don't see it.
I know Mark already pointed it out, but outbound.032 should be for Zone 50 files (not Zone 32).
Anyway, it looks like BinkIT and SBBSecho don't agree on what the default/local zone is.
Re: GameNet outbound
By: Digital Man to Al on Sun Jun 17 2018 01:14 am
I know Mark already pointed it out, but outbound.032 should be for Zone 50 files (not Zone 32).
The outbound.032 directory doesn't exist. There is only an outbound directory.
Anyway, it looks like BinkIT and SBBSecho don't agree on what the default/local zone is.
It seems so. Nodes can poll and pick up their mail no problem but the hub can't deliver mail on BINKOUT or BINKPOLL.
It seems so. Nodes can poll and pick up their mail no problem but the
hub can't deliver mail on BINKOUT or BINKPOLL.
Do you have an address of 50:*/* used somewhere?
Re: GameNet outbound
By: Digital Man to Al on Sun Jun 17 2018 12:16 pm
It seems so. Nodes can poll and pick up their mail no problem but the
hub can't deliver mail on BINKOUT or BINKPOLL.
Do you have an address of 50:*/* used somewhere?
No, unless I entered a typo somewhere. I have been looking at that config over the last little bit and I don't see anything like that.
I just committed what looks like a fix to a function exec/load/fido.js. Let me know if that helps with your problem or not.
Re: GameNet outbound
By: Digital Man to Al on Sun Jun 17 2018 12:52 pm
I just committed what looks like a fix to a function exec/load/fido.js. Let me know if that helps with your problem or not.
Yes, I just saw the hub crash outbound to a node. Thanks.. :)
BinkIT/2.4 invoked with options:
Unexpected file path '/sbbs/fido/outbound/00010005.cut' expected
'/sbbs/fido/outbound.032/00010005.cut'
Zone 32 is the only zone configured in this instance of sbbs and
sbbsecho. It looks like I have missed something in the zone config.. but
I don't see it.
I know Mark already pointed it out, but outbound.032 should be for Zone 50 files (not Zone 32).
Anyway, it looks like BinkIT and SBBSecho don't agree on what the default/local zone is.
I know Mark already pointed it out, but outbound.032 should be for
Zone 50 files (not Zone 32).
The outbound.032 directory doesn't exist. There is only an outbound directory.
Anyway, it looks like BinkIT and SBBSecho don't agree on what the
default/local zone is.
It seems so. Nodes can poll and pick up their mail no problem but the
hub can't deliver mail on BINKOUT or BINKPOLL.
some mail tossers will create "other than home zone" directories when they are needed... then some mailers will delete them when they are empty and no longer needed...
if i have the right "Al", and i think i do, then here's what your mailer is showing...
make sure you have your addresses in your tosser listed in the same order... if you add more nets and you are manually sorting them in zone order, make sure you adjust all your other software that is using the BSO, too...
FWIW: i show Z32 as being HTMLNET and GAMENET... GAMENET coming from the entry above... there is/was a GAMESNET using Z144 and a GMSNET (which could be an abbreviated GAMESNET) using 145... i don't find a Z50 in any of my connections since 20150101...
FWIW: i show Z32 as being HTMLNET and GAMENET... GAMENET coming from
the entry above... there is/was a GAMESNET using Z144 and a GMSNET
(which could be an abbreviated GAMESNET) using 145... i don't find a
Z50 in any of my connections since 20150101...
I struggled a bit trying to come up with a free zone to use. I hope
that Z32 is not in use by any other networks.
NuSkooler has a google sheet on the web titled FTN Networks is one of
the places I looked at.
On 06-19-18 08:43, mark lewis wrote to Al <=-
hehehe, i just pointed out that it is used by HTMLNET but i don't know anything about it or if it is even still around...
NuSkooler has a google sheet on the web titled FTN Networks is one of
the places I looked at.
never heard of it... don't even see anything similar in my first 100 search results... i finally found something mentioning nuskooler over
on l33t.codes but no list of othernets...
so anyway, i use a script that grabs all the "addr:" lines from binkd
log files... it cuts them up and feeds them through tr, awk, sort, uniq and finally sed... i can't figure out if i want the final output to be alphabetical by domain or numerical by zone... either way, the list
also makes it easy to see that some mailers were misconfigured at some point and some were using a domain name that was larger than eight characters... they're easily seen because their entry is pushed over... eight characters because that's all the space allocated for the domain name in the PKT header...
i think it is also interesting that when faced with only eight
character spaces, so many are wasting them by adding "net" onto the name... yeah, sure, fidonet was the first but its name was around long before 5D PKT capabilities were invented... even with only five usable character spaces, that's over 60000000 possible combinations using just the letters and numbers...
one last thought is how no one seems to want to use zone numbers over 999... in the BSO format, the hex zone extension on the outbound directories can go up to FFF which is 4095 so four digit zones up to
4095 are perfectly fine... my script allows for five digits for zone,
net, node, and point and while technically wrong, it works fine :)
so here's the list my script generates from my binkd log files... some obvious errors have already been edited out (eg: NETMAIL, ECHOMAIL,
LOCAL used as domains for zone 1, fidonet being shown with zones
outside the allocated 1-6)... if anyone has any clarifying information,
it would be handy to have... i used the list to populate my 5D
binkd.conf with domain and alias-for lines (plus created the various outbound directories) so maybe, just maybe, i won't see any more with fidonet using some weird zone number... i doubt it'll work but i did it anyway :lol:
usenet 21 (I'd say this is fsxnet, which has its own Usenet feed) vkradio 423 (this one is a typo, one of my downlinks messed up theirmailer config).
if anyone's curious, here's the (updated) script i've been using...
==== Begin "GetFTNDomainsFromBinkdLogs" ====<snip>
NuSkooler has a google sheet on the web titled FTN Networks is one
of the places I looked at.
never heard of it... don't even see anything similar in my first 100 search results... i finally found something mentioning nuskooler over on l33t.codes but no list of othernets...
NuSkooler has a google sheet on the web titled FTN Networks is one
of the places I looked at.
never heard of it... don't even see anything similar in my first 100
search results... i finally found something mentioning nuskooler over
on l33t.codes but no list of othernets...
Would be interested to see your full search results. Sounds like you
have a good way of seeing what's out in the wild. :)
so here's the list my script generates from my binkd log files...
some obvious errors have already been edited out (eg: NETMAIL,
ECHOMAIL, LOCAL used as domains for zone 1, fidonet being shown with
zones outside the allocated 1-6)... if anyone has any clarifying
information, it would be handy to have... i used the list to populate
my 5D binkd.conf with domain and alias-for lines (plus created the
various outbound directories) so maybe, just maybe, i won't see any
more with fidonet using some weird zone number... i doubt it'll work
but i did it anyway :lol:
I can clarify some (see comments in brackets)
usenet 21 (I'd say this is fsxnet, which has its own Usenet feed)
vkradio 423 (this one is a typo, one of my downlinks messed up
their mailer config).
==== Begin "GetFTNDomainsFromBinkdLogs" ====<snip>
I'll try that on my system, as I run binkd.
Hmm, interesting, here's my output. Someone has created a 4 digit
zone, by the looks of it. :)
NuSkooler has a google sheet on the web titled FTN Networks is one
of the places I looked at.
never heard of it... don't even see anything similar in my first 100
search results... i finally found something mentioning nuskooler over
on l33t.codes but no list of othernets...
This is the bookmark I saved in firefox.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17pmf7cS9ocU99Rm6qlJD_OncqmbDI5 Qj8Yw
99A5 bgVc/edit#gid=0
I'm not sure if there is another url for that page.
I'm not sure if there is another url for that page.
you could make a tinyurl for it ;)
I don't know, but NuSkooler had a google doc list of known zone numbers, I don't have the link to it any more though.
https://goo.gl/T6dC7F
Please, if there are new/missing networks or info that can be updated, feel >free!
On 06-20-18 12:03, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
just standard google-fu but i also set google to return 100 results
(the maximum) per page instead of just 10... then i only need to scroll down the page to maybe find what i hope to find...
thanks... so i guess the couple of "usenet" domains i saw are
erroneous, too... i've fixed the vkradio as Z432 in my config... i even
went trudging through the OTHERNETS echo trying to verify which zone is the zone for some of these domains... only one lists the zone in their advertising... maybe two... none of the others say anything about which zone(s) they are using...
==== Begin "GetFTNDomainsFromBinkdLogs" ====<snip>
I'll try that on my system, as I run binkd.
yeah, as i noted, i ran it across all of the binkd logs i have since 2015...
Hmm, interesting, here's my output. Someone has created a 4 digit
zone, by the looks of it. :)
yup... that's a private net i've been operating since some time in the '90s... not too shabby a list you have there ;)
thanks... so i guess the couple of "usenet" domains i saw are
I suspect so, but might hint at who's offering usenet feeds. :)
went trudging through the OTHERNETS echo trying to verify which zone
is the zone for some of these domains... only one lists the zone in
their advertising... maybe two... none of the others say anything
about which zone(s) they are using...
That's true, I've only ever found zones by actually joining nets. :)
I'll try that on my system, as I run binkd.
yeah, as i noted, i ran it across all of the binkd logs i have since
2015...
My logs go back to the start of this year (since rebuilding from a
major rash).
Hmm, interesting, here's my output. Someone has created a 4 digit
zone, by the looks of it. :)
yup... that's a private net i've been operating since some time in
the '90s... not too shabby a list you have there ;)
Well, you got found out. :D And yes, I get around. :D
On 06-21-18 12:40, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
that's what the echolist was designed for... one place to look to see
what echos are available, what their topics are, where they are
available from and more :)
That's true, I've only ever found zones by actually joining nets. :)
yeah, see? i've never understood that... especially with 3D and 4D software... you go join a net and then find out that there are problems with mail delivery because there's a zone conflict so now you have to
drop one of them or switch software or the whole net moves to a
different zone to avoid the conflicts...
My logs go back to the start of this year (since rebuilding from a
major rash).
i hope you had/have a good cream for that rash and it took care of it really fast without too much discomfort :) :lol:
but, yeah, i know what you mean... i've had one or two crashes that
were rather painful... the last one is the one that lead me to keeping
my RA in the default configuration and colors and adding features to it
to show it off with all its feature capabilities...
hahahaha... i actually have others but binkd is configured to hide them from everyone except those in them... that's a pretty neat feature that could be very handy in other FTN mailers... especially those that
insist on recording inbound traffic as coming from an address you don't connect with... i mean, an address that is an AKA on the remote
system... like a real example that happened a while back... i had a
point address in fidonet and a full node address in an othernet... the othernet stats showed my othernet mail being delivered by my fidonet
point address instead of the proper othernet address i was flying...
the only way to avoid the problem was to hide the fidonet point address
so that only the othernet address was presented but that blocked
sending FTN mail to that remote system which was also in fidonet... the problem, such as it is/was was specifically the wrong address being
used in the reports which were built from the data logged by the
mailer...
that's what the echolist was designed for... one place to look to see
what echos are available, what their topics are, where they are
available from and more :)
I was thinking more that some Usenet providers like to have their
Usenet feeds in a different FTN zone (no idea why).
My logs go back to the start of this year (since rebuilding from a
major rash).
i hope you had/have a good cream for that rash and it took care of it
really fast without too much discomfort :) :lol:
LOL bloody keyboard sometimes drops letters. :D
but, yeah, i know what you mean... i've had one or two crashes that
were rather painful... the last one is the one that lead me to
keeping my RA in the default configuration and colors and adding
features to it to show it off with all its feature capabilities...
Yeah, interesting. :)
On 06-22-18 21:53, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I was thinking more that some Usenet providers like to have their
Usenet feeds in a different FTN zone (no idea why).
never heard of that... thanks but no thanks ;)
Yeah, interesting. :)
yeah, everyone was always "the defaults are ugly!" and we're all like
"so go change them to what you want. they're ugly on purpose to get
folks to change them instead of leaving all the RA boards looking the same." dunno if it ever really worked, though...
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